Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
Don't get me wrong, Ed. I'm definitely not for the reporter and have never liked the Slantinel. As far as I'm concerned it was not a battle worth fighting. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Ed Williamson To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:33:54 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF It might help some of you to know that this is the same reporter that tried to get to Coach Meyer's daughter Nikki to get her to make some quotes during the time of the revelation of Coach Meyer's health issues. I don't know about some of you, but personally, I think Coach has shown remarkable restraint. He has had several personal discussions with this individual and he has shown himself over the last 5 years to be, in this Gator's opinion, a reprehensible jerk and had a lot more coming than he actually recieved. I don't know if you all have seen the complete video's of both Deonte's interview (it lasted 10 minutes) where this jerk took one answer that fit his agenda and the video of of Coach Meyer confronting him. Coach did not shout or use profanities, was just very firm in his statments and walked away after having his say. It might also interest you that this guy has changed his blog entry 3 tiime since posting it after the blow up to try to cover his ineptitude. If you want to try to imply that Coach Meyer has a problem, you might need a lot more fact and insight before making that judgment. Eddie - Original Message - >From: Arthur Polhill >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:57 PM >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all >tangled up at UF > > >I'm saying "ditto" a lot today. > >Ditto, Zeb. > A. Leon Polhill, Gator >"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. >I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain > > > > > ________________ From: John Vega >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:03:18 PM >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all >tangled up at UF > > > >On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: > >I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs >some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress >level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and >productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are >ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a >Bowden, you just have to be professional. >>For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over >>something as minor as this is ridiculous. > >I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. > > >First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. >This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. > > >Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and >leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off >immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, >and the jacket is ruined. > > >Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. >Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. > > >To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article >(it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional >as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or >reflected poorly on Deonte. > > >-Zeb > > > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words >"REMOVE ME" as the subject. >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our websit
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
ONe more article you might want to see. Brian Cook from the Sporting News Blog.
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/60612/it_turns_out_we_all_need_20_minutes_with_tim_tebow
- Original Message -
From: Ed Williamson
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all
tangled up at UF
It might help some of you to know that this is the same reporter that tried
to get to Coach Meyer's daughter Nikki to get her to make some quotes during
the time of the revelation of Coach Meyer's health issues. I don't know about
some of you, but personally, I think Coach has shown remarkable restraint. He
has had several personal discussions with this individual and he has shown
himself over the last 5 years to be, in this Gator's opinion, a reprehensible
jerk and had a lot more coming than he actually recieved. I don't know if you
all have seen the complete video's of both Deonte's interview (it lasted 10
minutes) where this jerk took one answer that fit his agenda and the video of
of Coach Meyer confronting him. Coach did not shout or use profanities, was
just very firm in his statments and walked away after having his say. It might
also interest you that this guy has changed his blog entry 3 tiime since
posting it after the blow up to try to cover his ineptitude.
If you want to try to imply that Coach Meyer has a problem, you might need a
lot more fact and insight before making that judgment.
Eddie
- Original Message -
From: Arthur Polhill
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all
tangled up at UF
I'm saying "ditto" a lot today.
Ditto, Zeb.
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain
From: John Vega
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all
tangled up at UF
On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote:
I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs
some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress
level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive
way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get
positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just
have to be professional.
For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over
something as minor as this is ridiculous.
I'm will Helen on this for two reasons.
First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons.
This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking.
Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and
leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off
immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away,
and the jacket is ruined.
Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away.
Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever.
To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article
(it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as
opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or
reflected poorly on Deonte.
-Zeb
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
It might help some of you to know that this is the same reporter that tried to get to Coach Meyer's daughter Nikki to get her to make some quotes during the time of the revelation of Coach Meyer's health issues. I don't know about some of you, but personally, I think Coach has shown remarkable restraint. He has had several personal discussions with this individual and he has shown himself over the last 5 years to be, in this Gator's opinion, a reprehensible jerk and had a lot more coming than he actually recieved. I don't know if you all have seen the complete video's of both Deonte's interview (it lasted 10 minutes) where this jerk took one answer that fit his agenda and the video of of Coach Meyer confronting him. Coach did not shout or use profanities, was just very firm in his statments and walked away after having his say. It might also interest you that this guy has changed his blog entry 3 tiime since posting it after the blow up to try to cover his ineptitude. If you want to try to imply that Coach Meyer has a problem, you might need a lot more fact and insight before making that judgment. Eddie - Original Message - From: Arthur Polhill To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I'm saying "ditto" a lot today. Ditto, Zeb. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain -- From: John Vega To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:03:18 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, and the jacket is ruined. Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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I was wondering about that. Perhaps the wrong guy got yelled at. -Zeb On Mar 26, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Arthur Polhill wrote: I'm not trying to defend the author, but I do know the newspaper business. Headlines are not written by the author. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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I'm not trying to defend the author, but I do know the newspaper business. Headlines are not written by the author. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Steve McKibben To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:11:02 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF The original headline (and tweet) read: "Thompson disses Tebow". Pretty innocuous, right? --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Jay Cicone wrote: > > >Hey, Zeb. That’s precisely the way I took it as well. > > >To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article >(it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional >as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or >reflected poorly on Deonte. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
I'm saying "ditto" a lot today. Ditto, Zeb. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: John Vega To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:03:18 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. >For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something >as minor as this is ridiculous. I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, and the jacket is ruined. Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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Thanks, I needed that. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:40:39 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF Please turn your head to the side and cough. From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:38 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF And, I thought I was your only patient, Doctor Jay. And, now I find that you're moonlighting with the Urban. I know the pay is better, but still... I'm in deep remission... A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From:Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:26:37 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF One could speculate that “they” told him to let his feelings out to reduce stress---and be totally wrong. It would appear he has anger management issues…..and they have been eating at him while pent up. Maybe or maybe not. We shall see. From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:23 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME&qu
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Here is a few thoughts that I have for what they are worth (perhaps not even $.02): 1. I can fully understand how and why he erupted. I really believe that Urban Meyer feels like some (most) of the players are family. When my family is hurt, I am defensive and it will upset me. I believe he acted out of his pain for his player's pain. 2. It is clear that some of the media took the quote out of context. The original quote was in context but it began to be perverted in a way it was not intended as it was reported by others. 3. I think it is clear that Deonte misspoke. I think he would have liked to have said a "regular" quarterback rather than "real." If he could have a do-over he would either have not said anything or might have said "regular." 4. I think the journalist might have wished that he could have a do-over and asked Deonte if that was really what he meant. Was he actually trying to say that Tim Tebow was not a real quarterback? I realize that in context that was clear. I know I have in the past asked people if they meant something the way it sounded because, in the group, there might be some that would not understand what the meant. 5. I think Urban Meyer might wish he had a do-over. I know I have on many occasions allowed my mouth to speak before my brain kicked in. I think this was one of those occasions. I would not be surprised if he has not called him privately and apologized. (I am also not sure that Urban would not be better served to publically apologize himself.) Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, and the jacket is ruined. Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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Well...that's a whole 'nuther story, aint it? Of course, we've all seen sensational journalism. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:11 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF The original headline (and tweet) read: "Thompson disses Tebow". Pretty innocuous, right? --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Jay Cicone wrote: Hey, Zeb. That's precisely the way I took it as well. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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The original headline (and tweet) read: "Thompson disses Tebow". Pretty innocuous, right? --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Jay Cicone wrote: Hey, Zeb. That’s precisely the way I took it as well. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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Hey, Zeb. That's precisely the way I took it as well. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, and the jacket is ruined. Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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Whoops #2! And...you're not in Chicago! A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Steve McKibben To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:05:48 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. I'm will Helen on this for two reasons. First, UM3 needs to learn how to handle stress for his own health reasons. This is the opposite of the approach he should be taking. Second, take a lesson from mud. You get a little mud on a nice jacket and leave it be; it will dry up and flake off on its own. You try and clean it off immediately, and its gets worked into the fabric. The stain never goes away, and the jacket is ruined. Perceived bad press is like mud. Just leave it alone, and let it go away. Attack the press, and be prepared to be stained forever. To be frank, I didn't even think the press was that bad. I read the article (it was posted to GatorNews) and read "real quarterback" to mean traditional as opposed to hybrid. I never once thought that it was derogatory to Tebow or reflected poorly on Deonte. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
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Maybe it was a stunt to show support for his players. To say the things that the player and player's family wish they could say. Maybe it was a stunt to give his players an us against the world attitude Maybe it was because they tried to misconstrue what the player said Maybe it was because of that story the previous week about Meyer owes us an explanation Maybe it was because they were trying to harass his daughter into making comments Maybe it was because Orlando Slantinal has a long history of being %#^$%$ towards us From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:26:37 AMSubject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF One could speculate that “they” told him to let his feelings out to reduce stress---and be totally wrong. It would appear he has anger management issues…..and they have been eating at him while pent up. Maybe or maybe not. We shall see. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen HuntleySent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:23 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben <augiega...@yahoo.com> wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake...==Firestorm is right.Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely.Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes.Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment.Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure.Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it.Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be.There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting.Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program?Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge.Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "
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I just hope he's still being nice to the payroll clerk and the cafeteria lady...and, of course, Paula. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Steve McKibben To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:30:07 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I have no idea if this is true or not, but one poster on one of the message boards I frequent insisted that Meyer has had quiet, off to the side talks with this particular reporter on several occasions, apparently to no avail. While I agree that from an overall perspective this *still* could have been handled in a more professional and mature manner, being called out in public may have been what this one punk writer had coming. --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Helen Huntley wrote: > > >I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs >some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress >level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and >productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are >ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a >Bowden, you just have to be professional. >For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something >as minor as this is ridiculous. >Just my two cents. >Helen > > >> >>== >> >>Firestorm is right. >> >>Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? >>Absolutely. >> >>Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. >> >>Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have >>been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell >>papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to >>highlight and headline the controversial comment. >> >>Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go >>out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. >> >>Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by >>exercising that right? Looks like it. >> >>Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of >>his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he >>has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they >>don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. >> >>There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from >>Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship >>earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of >>his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his >>players, even some of the stars without prompting. >> >>Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson >>that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more >>carefully. >> >>Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, >>his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college >>football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are >>strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. >>Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to >>have in charge of your favorite team's program? >> >>Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. >> >>Steve McKibben >> >> >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words >>"REMOVE ME" as the subject. >> >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny
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Please turn your head to the side and cough. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:38 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF And, I thought I was your only patient, Doctor Jay. And, now I find that you're moonlighting with the Urban. I know the pay is better, but still... I'm in deep remission... A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:26:37 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF One could speculate that "they" told him to let his feelings out to reduce stress---and be totally wrong. It would appear he has anger management issues.and they have been eating at him while pent up. Maybe or maybe not. We shall see. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:23 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us <http://www.gatornet.us/> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com <http://unsubscribegooglegroups.com/> or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurr
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And, I thought I was your only patient, Doctor Jay. And, now I find that you're moonlighting with the Urban. I know the pay is better, but still... I'm in deep remission... A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:26:37 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF One could speculate that “they” told him to let his feelings out to reduce stress---and be totally wrong. It would appear he has anger management issues…..and they have been eating at him while pent up. Maybe or maybe not. We shall see. From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:23 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 N
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I usually just wallow here in the swamp sending out signals of what I really think without being able to put them into good prose and await Helen to frame my thoughts perfectly. Then I just murmer: "ditto," and wallow some more. I'm just a life-long Gator. Ditto, Helen, once again. And...thanks, many times again. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:23:21 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... > >== > >Firestorm is right. > >Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? >Absolutely. > >Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. > >Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been >as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web >hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and >headline the controversial comment. > >Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go >out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. > >Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by >exercising that right? Looks like it. > >Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his >team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has >their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they >don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. > >There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from >Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship >earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of >his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his >players, even some of the stars without prompting. > >Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that >he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more >carefully. > >Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, >his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college >football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong >in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that >fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in >charge of your favorite team's program? > >Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. > >Steve McKibben > > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words >"REMOVE ME" as the subject. > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
Like I said earlier, there is nothing to be gained from pIss/ng on the payroll clerk, the cafeteria lady, the press, or...in my case...Paula. It was done and it's not going to be fun or short. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: John Vega To: GatorNews Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:42:07 AM Subject: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF David Moulton: Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF By DAVID MOULTON Thursday, March 25, 2010 The truth is not easy to find in sports. Because many times there is more than one truth. There are two truths with Florida Gators sports these days. First, Gators teams are often entertaining and enjoyable. The Swamp is a special experience. Many players are engaging off the field and exciting on it. Tim Tebow was the best, most special college athlete I’ve been around as a professional. The men’s basketball teams that won back-to-back titles played the game so unselfishly that comparisons to the Knicks championship teams of the early ’70s were appropriate. The athletic department, from top-to-bottom, may be the best in all of college sports. Athletic director Jeremy Foley and his staff have done an incredible job. They deserve the highest praise. Yet at the same time, dealing with the Florida athletic department is having to work around and through the most difficult people in all of sports. Covering the Gators, unless you deliver pure propaganda, is one of the least desirable things you can do in this business. So when Gators wide receiver Deonte Thompson, in explaining the difference between quarterbacks Tebow and John Brantley, described Brantley as “a real quarterback,” the world of both truths collided. Thompson meant no disrespect to Tebow. The reporter (the Orlando Sentinel’s Jeremy Fowler) did nothing wrong. He asked a question, wrote down the answer and used it in an article on the paper’s Web site. What football coach Urban Meyer wanted Fowler to do was realize the firestorm that would be created in Gator Nation when that quote made the Internet. Meyer then wanted the reporter to cut the sophomore wide receiver some slack. Essentially disregard the quote or have the reporter say to Thompson, “Do you really want me to print that you just said that Tebow is not a real quarterback?” Thompson used “a real quarterback” when he probably meant to say “traditional quarterback” or “dropback passer.” Could the reporter have bailed out Thompson? Sure. Does he have to? No way. It’s not the reporter’s job to protect Florida athletes from themselves. So Meyer snaps. He verbally confronts the reporter, threatening to cut off access for Fowler and the Sentinel. Meyer then says to Fowler, “If that was my son, we’d be going at it right now.” Good to see Urban has his stress under control. Wasn’t he taking a leave of absence? Instead of talking to the reporter on the side — not unlike the way a coach would work an official to get a call later in the game — the Gators immediately cut off all interaction between the media and the team. The bullying gets cranked up even more. And it’s only March. This could be a fun year. Don’t be shocked if in the post-Tebow world of covering the Gators, the media seem more negative. Florida fans will insist it is a newfound media bias. Everyone else will scream, “Finally, they are doing their jobs.” In reality, the media will largely be printing the truth. It’s just that for the first five years of Meyer’s regime, the truth was however it was seen by Meyer. Now the truth may be how it is seen by the media. And the Gators may not be able to handle that truth. David Moulton is a freelance writer. He is co-host of “Miller and Moulton in the Afternoon.” The show airs weekdays 2 to 7 p.m. on WWCN/AM 770 ESPN. His column appears Sunday, Wednesday and Friday. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatornews+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMO
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
The really bad thing is this is exactly what Fowler wanted, attention. It was the same with Larry Guest. He wanted attention for the Sentinel. It was interesting the whole press community jumped on the side of one of their own. Meyer couldn't get a break from anyone. I'm with Meyer 100%. Fowler took a comment out of context and blew it up. That was a truly cheap shot. You're right, the coach is walking a minefield, he's sure to step on one sometime during his career. I'm glad he did it taking up for his player. As someone else has said, this should help recruiting in the long run. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:06 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
I have no idea if this is true or not, but one poster on one of the message boards I frequent insisted that Meyer has had quiet, off to the side talks with this particular reporter on several occasions, apparently to no avail. While I agree that from an overall perspective this *still* could have been handled in a more professional and mature manner, being called out in public may have been what this one punk writer had coming. --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Helen Huntley wrote: I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
One could speculate that "they" told him to let his feelings out to reduce stress---and be totally wrong. It would appear he has anger management issues.and they have been eating at him while pent up. Maybe or maybe not. We shall see. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:23 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us <http://www.gatornet.us/> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com <http://unsubscribegooglegroups.com/> or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
I don't think we should change coaches, but I think Urban Meyer needs some coaching in dealing with the media. It actually would help his stress level if he could learn to handle himself in a more professional and productive way. I like the analogy of coaches working officials. There are ways that get positive results and ways that don't. You don't have to be a Bowden, you just have to be professional. For Urban to throw a temper tantrum and draw a line in the sand over something as minor as this is ridiculous. Just my two cents. Helen On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: > Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... > > == > > Firestorm is right. > > Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? > Absolutely. > > Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. > > Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have > been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell > papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to > highlight and headline the controversial comment. > > Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels > go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. > > Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by > exercising that right? Looks like it. > > Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of > his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he > has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when > they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. > > There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from > Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship > earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot > of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his > players, even some of the stars without prompting. > > Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson > that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more > carefully. > > Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team > loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's > college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that > are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. > Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to > have in charge of your favorite team's program? > > Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. > > Steve McKibben > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Meyer, media and the truth all tangled up at UF
Oops! - sent this to GatorNews by mistake... == Firestorm is right. Could Coach Meyer have handled this in a more discreet and genteel manner? Absolutely. Did Jeremy Fowler quote Deonte Thompson directly? Yes. Could Fowler have provided context from his interview that would not have been as potentially inflammatory? Yes, but since it's his job to sell papers/web hits/promote himself, he chose not to do so, but rather to highlight and headline the controversial comment. Does Meyer have the right to limit access to those entities that he feels go out of their way to portray his program in a negative light? Sure. Does he run the risk of alienating a large contingent of the media by exercising that right? Looks like it. Did Meyer do what he did to send a message to Deonte Thompson, the rest of his team, and possibly potential future recruits and their families, that he has their back if any media types may try to take advantage of them when they don't carefully articulate their thoughts? Could be. There was a coach that used to ply his trade up the road a bit from Gainesville that was a master at placating the press, and that relationship earned him and his program a free pass for far too long according to a lot of his critics. But for many years he couldn't even tell you the name of his players, even some of the stars without prompting. Urban Meyer could choose to go that route - he could tell Deonte Thompson that he's a big boy now and that he'd better learn to choose his words more carefully. Sure, we'd all like to have that coach that the press loves, his team loves, his family loves, and who wins in the big,brutal world of today's college football. Problem is, we're stuck with humans, and most humans that are strong in some areas are also not as strong (maybe even weak) in others. Given that fact, which of the two coaches described above would you like to have in charge of your favorite team's program? Personally, I like the guy that UF has in charge. Steve McKibben -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
