Re: g_b child abuse
I agree with my friend Bloot Fontaine. I was sodomized by a local gunda when I was 14yrs of age. And I remember my feelings then. Child abuse is always a cruelty. And that too with a child of 10yrs. old is worst. It cannot be justified. - Shatru --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: g_b child abuse To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:19 PM Nice to know. BUT, this is not what happens to everybody. It IS necessary to safeguard the interests of those who can be cruelly abused - or used AGAINST their wishes, WITHOUT their knowledge and/or consent. Would you not agree, Mehrdadji? Regards. --- On Mon, 6/4/09, mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642001@ yahoo.com wrote: From: mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642001@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b child abuse To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:34 PM hi..i as an adult now ,have experienced child abuse when i was about 10yrs old but it was not so horrible for me at that time and now also i have not any bad feeling about it and i know so many guys that has had sex with other men when thery were minor and they also feels good about it..in my case ii wsa my uncle who approched me for fondlig and then sex and now i also sse him but he is married and we never talk abouti iti also have sex with guys now,,and i never feels bad about my childhood... . Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b Iran is safe for gays/bi
i agree with you,are right its plain crap wriiten,indeed gay n bi are alive kicking hard in iran,india all the places of the world,so all this pseduo crap that gays are a extint breed is pure bull. reza. redondo beach,ca. From: mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 12:43:46 AM Subject: g_b Iran is safe for gays/bi we are all gays and bi`s ..we are stiil alive as we do it hidden and in closet and not in the shape pf rape..when gay sex is with mutual censent,and in private places..home or any indoor places...there is nothing wrong with it and no danger ...be sure about it..and do not write such lies...
Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A protest
Dear little prince, One sentence from letter I told them (my friends) that gays are not bad some of them are really loving and caring is enough to express my feelings about the gay ppl. Don't you think so? Did not you read what I said about the community well let me repeat a part and try to elaborate. Here I was talking about child abuse. Most of my friends were unaware of what to do when they were being abused. I mean to say that one should learn how to keep safe distance from these criminals ( I said criminals. Criminals not gay or non gay. they don't have any religion, no country They are just Criminals ) I told my friends that if they want to discuss any problem then this community is a good place. I also feel that a member of this community need not be a gay. Please tell me am I wrong. If so please clarify. And yes Sanjay! I appreciate you asked me to elaborate and not fired me left and right catching only one word of my letter. Also please express your view on my suggetion. Even if you don't agree with me no problem. Shatru --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A protest To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 7:01 AM HI Shatru what do you mean by One should learn how to keep a safe distance please elaborate. I am gay and hence I am part of this forum and I am very close to my friends who are non gays. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lovely@ yahoo.in To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 6:31:42 AM Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion Thanks Harish, Thanks for the information about Rahi, Muskan and Tulir. I am staying in Bomaby, and studying in a reputed school/junior college but I was not knowing about any such organisation. I got lot of friends. I talked to them and nobody knew anything about such organisations. After I join this community I found a platform where I can freely and boldly discuss such things. I got good and bad experiences here. Found really good friends. I told my friends also to join this community. I told them that to join this community you need not be a gay. I told them that gays are not bad some of them are really loving and caring. One should learn how to keep a safe distance. Shatru --- On Sun, 5/4/09, Aham (alias Harish Iyer) aham.ra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Aham (alias Harish Iyer) aham.ra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com, gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 6:39 AM Dear Shatru Lovely, I totally am with your views. Yes, Such initiatives need to be started. But starting a new initiative would require a lot of time and concentrated efforts. but that doesnt mean we dont do anything. We could join in and support existing organizations like Rahi, Muskaan, Tulir etc... I have gone to schools and colleges that I am associated with closely. And if one feels that speaking to a survivor of child sexual abuse will help the cause. I am available. I respect the fact that we do not share mobile numbers here. One could just Google me/Visit my blog or visit my facebook profile for my mobile number. Harish Iyer www.MumbaiTerrorHel pline.Blogspot. com www.wordlyworld. blogspot. com --- On Fri, 3/4/09, shatru_lovely shatru_lovely@ yahoo.in wrote: From: shatru_lovely shatru_lovely@ yahoo.in Subject: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, 3 April, 2009, 8:34 PM Like Harish, there may be many in this community who might have suffered from child abuse in their early age of puberty. My suggestion is, such victims should form a group and visit schools, colleges, play ground etc. and educate students as to what is child abuse and how they should fight against it. Let them know whom to approach in such cases, let the child know that he is not alone. May be some NGO is already working in the same direction I am not sure but the efforts are not enough. I have observed that either a child is not at all educated or is over educated... Both are dangerous. Not only children's but parents also need to be educated. Following are some instructions I found on one site. Does your child know the meaning of sex abuse? Did you know that one in three girls in the world is sexually abused before reaching the age of eighteen, and one in four before the age of fourteen? In the case of boys, one in six is sexually abused before the age of sixteen. Quite shocking, to say the least. According to sociologist David Finkelhor, who has conducted a massive study on child sexual abuse in over 19 countries besides the United Statesand Canada, sex abuse percentages in most countries are
g_b Fwd: URGENT REMINDER: INDIA CCM ELECTION
-- Forwarded message -- From: National MSM HIV Task Force msmtaskfo...@gmail.com Date: 2009/4/7 Subject: URGENT REMINDER: INDIA CCM ELECTION To: Dear Friends, I attach a document that details the organisations that are registered to vote for the elections to the India CCM, under the category of sexual minorities. This election is crucial to our needs and demands being reflected in the CCM. If your organisation is in the attached list, it is of vital importance that you take your time out and vote. *The voting begins today the 7th of April 2009 and closes after 3 days, i.e. on the 9th of April 2009* Please visit the CCM election website to cast your vote. http://www.indiaccm-elections.org/Default.aspx There are 2 candidates in the fray, Manohar Elvarathi and Manvendra Singh Govil, both very able and strong leaders. They represent Suraksha Society and Lakshya Trust respectively. I urge you to vote wisely, and vote in time. Also please spread the word amongst your networks. Best regards to all, Aditya Bondyopadhyay for National MSM HIV Policy Advocacy and Human Rights Task Force
g_b UPDATE: UNAIDS to release MSM and Sexual Minorities guidelines soon
-- Forwarded message -- From: Edmund Settle edmund.set...@undp.org Hi Aditya, Thanks for your inquire on the MSM and Sexual Minorities guidelines. Last year, UNDP was tasked with drafting the MSM and Sexual Minorities guidelines after assuming the leading UN agency on this issue. Following last year’s Chaingmai PCB meeting, there was a MSM consultation held in Geneva last September, and another review meeting held last year in NY. All three of these broad based, participatory meetings provided inputs into the MSM and Sexual Minorities guidelines. In addition, over 15 global experts on MSM and TG issues, including Shiv and yourself, were personally requested by email to review and provide substantive inputs to the draft version. The final version of the MSM and Sexual Minorities guidelines has been sent to UNAIDS for final formatting and should be released shortly. Thanks again, * * * * Edmund __ Edmund Settle HIV Policy Specialist UNDP Regional Center Bangkok 3rd Floor, UN Service Building Rajdamnern Nok Avenue Bangkok, Thailand 10200 Tel: +66 (0) 2288 1569 Fax: +66 (0) 2288 3032 Mobile: +66818369300 Email: edmund.set...@undp.org
g_b Yes I am GAY but...............
Got this form a group on Facebook, sharing with you all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsjOlsG9ZG4 You cant sterotype us.. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla
Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A protest
Ye SP you are right, all people are good loving and caring but its the circumstances that may force them to behave in a particular way. One of my freinds is into women totaly, married and does not miss a chance with an consenting women if he gets one but he has an issue. When he was young his male cousin used to dress him up in womens clothes and abuse him so he has this burning deseire in him to do it to someone else. Maybe its a revenge or anger over his cousin. I am trying to heal him of this and give up his suppressed anger. God help me. He ha snot been able to vent his feelings till now. Its all pent up and bubbling. Yes everyone is encouraged to spread the word that if something is happeneing with you, or any perosn is behaving with you in anyway unacceptable or of high discomfort to you, then please go ahead and speak out, complain, there is no need to feel guilty about it. We are here to help you. Shatrughan you change the reference of ur name by short cutting it. From the destroyers of enemies(enemity) you change it to the enemy.:-) Last but not the least people with problems are encouraged to come and voice them on this forum but mostly the topics are agy related. Thanks little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lov...@yahoo.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 9:47:22 PM Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A protest Dear little prince, One sentence from letter I told them (my friends) that gays are not bad some of them are really loving and caring is enough to express my feelings about the gay ppl. Don't you think so? Did not you read what I said about the community well let me repeat a part and try to elaborate. Here I was talking about child abuse. Most of my friends were unaware of what to do when they were being abused. I mean to say that one should learn how to keep safe distance from these criminals ( I said criminals. Criminals not gay or non gay. they don't have any religion, no country They are just Criminals ) I told my friends that if they want to discuss any problem then this community is a good place. I also feel that a member of this community need not be a gay. Please tell me am I wrong. If so please clarify.. And yes Sanjay! I appreciate you asked me to elaborate and not fired me left and right catching only one word of my letter. Also please express your view on my suggetion. Even if you don't agree with me no problem. Shatru --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A protest To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 7:01 AM HI Shatru what do you mean by One should learn how to keep a safe distance please elaborate. I am gay and hence I am part of this forum and I am very close to my friends who are non gays. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lovely@ yahoo.in To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 6:31:42 AM Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion Thanks Harish, Thanks for the information about Rahi, Muskan and Tulir. I am staying in Bomaby, and studying in a reputed school/junior college but I was not knowing about any such organisation. I got lot of friends. I talked to them and nobody knew anything about such organisations. After I join this community I found a platform where I can freely and boldly discuss such things. I got good and bad experiences here. Found really good friends. I told my friends also to join this community. I told them that to join this community you need not be a gay. I told them that gays are not bad some of them are really loving and caring. One should learn how to keep a safe distance. Shatru --- On Sun, 5/4/09, Aham (alias Harish Iyer) aham.ra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Aham (alias Harish Iyer) aham.ra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com, gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 6:39 AM Dear Shatru Lovely, I totally am with your views. Yes, Such initiatives need to be started. But starting a new initiative would require a lot of time and concentrated efforts. but that doesnt mean we dont do anything. We could join in and support existing organizations like Rahi, Muskaan, Tulir etc... I have gone to schools and colleges that I am associated with closely. And if one feels that speaking to a survivor of child sexual abuse will help the cause. I am available. I respect the fact that we do not share mobile numbers here. One could just Google me/Visit my blog or visit my facebook profile for my mobile number. Harish Iyer www.MumbaiTerrorHel pline.Blogspot. com www.wordlyworld. blogspot. com --- On Fri, 3/4/09,
Re: g_b child abuse
I think that one thing that should be remembered is that child abuse need not necessarily be aggressive. It could also involve seducing an under-aged child with baits like money, sweets, etc. An innocent child could easily succumb at first unknowingly. All sorts of paedophiolia are to be condemned. Asfan. --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lov...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lov...@yahoo.in Subject: Re: g_b child abuse To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 9:29 PM I agree with my friend Bloot Fontaine. I was sodomized by a local gunda when I was 14yrs of age. And I remember my feelings then. Child abuse is always a cruelty. And that too with a child of 10yrs. old is worst. It cannot be justified. - Shatru --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. .in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in Subject: Re: g_b child abuse To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:19 PM Nice to know. BUT, this is not what happens to everybody. It IS necessary to safeguard the interests of those who can be cruelly abused - or used AGAINST their wishes, WITHOUT their knowledge and/or consent. Would you not agree, Mehrdadji? Regards. --- On Mon, 6/4/09, mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642001@ yahoo.com wrote: From: mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642001@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b child abuse To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:34 PM hi..i as an adult now ,have experienced child abuse when i was about 10yrs old but it was not so horrible for me at that time and now also i have not any bad feeling about it and i know so many guys that has had sex with other men when thery were minor and they also feels good about it..in my case ii wsa my uncle who approched me for fondlig and then sex and now i also sse him but he is married and we never talk abouti it.i also have sex with guys now,,and i never feels bad about my childhood... . Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Connect with friends all over the world.. Get Yahoo! India Messenger. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b Iran is safe for gays/bi
As concerns transgender matters...I agree with you whole heartedly.. Iran's interpretation of Islam has created a legal and respected place for transsexuals.. I only wish that I could feel safer...as an engreezi walli...in traveling to see my friends in Iran.. Elizabeth -Original Message- From: arya rez re...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:19 pm Subject: Re: g_b Iran is safe for gays/bi i agree with you,are right its plain crap wriiten,indeed gay n bi are alive kicking hard in iran,india all the places of the world,so all this pseduo crap that gays are a extint breed is pure bull. reza. redondo beach,ca. From: mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 12:43:46 AM Subject: g_b Iran is safe for gays/bi ?we are all gays and bi`s ..we are stiil alive as we do it hidden and in closet and not in the shape pf rape..when gay sex is with mutual censent,and in private places..home or any indoor places...there is nothing wrong with it and no danger ...be sure about it..and do not write such lies... Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages BRPLEASE NOTE THAT THIS GROUP DOES NOT CARRY ADULT PICTURES OR LURID MATERIALBR BR Would you like to join? Email to gay_bombay-subscr...@yahoogroups.comBR BR Or center a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/join; img src=http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/yg/img/i/us/ui/join.gif; border=0 ? alt=Click here to join gay_bombaybrbClick to join gay_bombay/a /centerBR font color=996699BRGoogle? GroupBR BRhttp://groups.google.com/group/GaybombayBR BRPublic archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.htmlBR BRRss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml BR BREmail: modera...@gaybombay.inBR BRWeb Sites:BR BRwww.gaybombay.inBR; BRwww.gaybombay.infoBR; BRwww.gayindia.orgBR; BRE Groups:BR BRhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombayBR BRhttp://groups.google.com/group/GaybombayBR BROrkut:BR BRhttp://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=22091955BR BRBlogs:BR BRhttp://gaybombay.blogspot.comBR BRhttp://gaybombay.wordpress.comBR BRTwitterBR BRhttp://twitter.com/gaybombayBRfont color=996699 Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 31 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others.
g_b Fw: up or down
--- On Tue, 7/4/09, aspi billimoria 22.a...@gmail.com wrote: An elderly gentleman and an elderly lady struck up a conversation and discovered that they both loved to fish.Since both of them were widowed, they decided to go fishing together thenext day.The gentleman picked the lady up, and they headed to the river to his fishing boat and started out on their adventure.. They were riding down the river when there was a fork in the river, and the gentleman asked the lady,'Do you want to go up or down?'All of a sudden the lady stripped off her shirt and pants and made mad passionate love to the man right there in the boat !When they finished, the man couldn't believe what had just happened, but he had just experienced the best sex that he'd had in years. They fished for a while and continued on down the river, when soon they came upon another fork in the river. He again asked the lady , 'Up or down ?' There she went again, stripped off her clothes, and made wild passionate love to him again.This really impressed the elderly gentleman, so he asked her to go fishing again the next day. She said yes and there they were the next day, riding in the boat when they came upon the fork in river, and the elderly gentleman asked, 'Up or down ?' The woman replied, 'Down.' A little puzzled and disappointed, the gentleman guided the boat down the river when he came upon another fork in the river and he asked the lady,' Up or down ?' She replied, 'Up.' This really confused the gentleman so he asked, 'What's the deal? Yesterday, every time I asked you if you wanted to go up or down you made mad passionate love to me. Now today, nothing!' She replied, 'Well, yesterday I wasn't wearing my hearing aid and I thought the choices were f**k or drown. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
g_b Bombay Dost Sunday High Film screenings: 12 April 2009
*Room with a View* (1985) 117 min English Cast: Daniel Day-Lewis, Helena Bonham-Carter, Julian Sands, Maggie Smith Synopsis: Lucy Honeychurch, a young Englishwoman, makes her first visit to Florence, Italy in the early 1900's. There, she meets a quiet yet eccentric young man named George Emerson. Upon her return to England, Lucy must decide whether to follow through with her marriage to her stotic fiance, Cecil, or follow her heart and her growing attraction to George. (IMDB) This is not a gay-themed film per se. However it's interesting from the standpoint that the film-makers try to restore the 'gay gaze' in Forster's writing. There is a lot of so-called gay subtext, with Daniel Day-Lewis' character usually being singled out by academics as that of a closeted gay man. Having received a lot of critical acclaim for this film, the team (including script-writer Jhabvala) was far more adventurous in exploring homosexual themes in the beautiful 'Maurice'. *Maurice* (1987) 140 min English Cast: James Wilby, Hugh Grant, Rupert Graves Synopsis: Two male English school chums find themselves falling in love at Cambridge. To regain his place in society, Clive gives up his forbidden love, Maurice, and marries. While staying with Clive and his shallow wife, Anne, Maurice finally discovers romance in the arms of Alec, the gamekeeper. Written from personal pain, it's E M Forster's story of coming to terms with sexuality in the Edwardian age. (IMDB) -- One intermission during which light refreshments will be served.. *First screening begins at 4.30 p.m.* Venue: The Humsafar Trust's Drop-in Centre, 4th floor, Municipal Transit Building (Vakola Municipal Market Building), Near Raheja Point and Vakola Masjid, Santacruz (East), Mumbai. Getting there: It's approximately minimum fare by auto-rickshaw from Santacruz station (East). You could also take routes 311 or 313. The same routes also operate from Kurla (West) station. Space courtesy: The Humsafar Trust. Note: Programme subject to change without notice. Please track: The Bombay Dost Wiki (http://bombay-dost.pbwiki.com/) OR The Facebook Page ( http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Bombay-Dost/5281736) OR follow Bombaydost on Twitter (http://twitter.com/bombaydost) OR subscribe to our Google SMS Channel ( http://labs.google.co.in/smschannels/subscribe/BombayDost) -- My blog's at: http://queerindia.blogspot.com You can leave me a voice message from any phone at http://www.jaxtr.com/nitinkarani No call charges apply.
g_b Vermont Legalizes Gay Marriage
April 7, 2009 Vermont Legalizes Gay Marriage By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 11:17 a.m. ET MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) -- Vermont has become the fourth state to legalize gay marriage -- and the first to do so with a legislature's vote. The Legislature voted Tuesday to override Gov. Jim Douglas' veto of a bill allowing gays and lesbians to marry. The vote was 23-5 to override in the state Senate and 100-49 to override in the House. Under Vermont law, two-thirds of each chamber had to vote for override. The vote came nine years after Vermont adopted its first-in-the-nation civil unions law. It's now the fourth state to permit same-sex marriage. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Iowa are the others. Their approval of gay marriage came from the courts. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
