g_b MAIYTRA 2010

2010-06-11 Thread Just me
See attached note from Ajit Joshi. I think this is a very welcoming initiative 
by Indian organizations in US. LGBT community should take advantage of this 
opportunity.

Thanks,
Sameer

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I recently contacted the MAIYTRA 2010 organizing committee to see if they would 
welcome LGBT folk.  The responses I got were nothing but positive.  They are 
extremely welcoming and ethusiastic about ensuring that not only are we wecome, 
but that we have a robust presence. If you are in DC July 4th weekend, have no 
plans for that weekend and want to make a visit to the nation's capitol, please 
consider this event. You don't need to speak Marathi to attend.  You can come 
by yourself, or if you have a partner, bring him/her along.  Please take a look 
at the email below welcoming the LGBT community to join.

- Ajit Joshi



-- Forwarded message --
From: Vijay Paradkar vi...@maiytra.com
Date: Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Subject: MAIYTRA 2010 Convention welcomes ALL young adults!
To: Ajit Joshi ajitvjo...@gmail.com


I’d like to extend a personal invitation, on behalf of our entire staff, to 
attend the MAIYTRA convention in Washington, DC from July 2-5, 2010.  MAIYTRA 
is a community of young adults (ages 18-35+) throughout North America and 
abroad with a strong interest in celebrating and preserving Marathi culture.  
In the past, MAIYTRA conventions have been held in various cities, but have 
largely been focused towards the needs of twenty-something singles looking for 
a serious relationship or marriage, but this year we're changing that.

Our staff has worked tirelessly to create a convention that is MAIYTRA for ALL. 
 We’re seeking to create a more inclusive and welcoming community that 
celebrates the full range of backgrounds, experiences, and choices that 
encompass our generation.  A big part of that is creating a safe and 
comfortable environment for everyone who cares about Indian culture (and 
Marathi culture more specifically) to be their true selves, and not merely what 
is normally expected of them.  Not everyone chooses to take the typical 
educational sequence.  Not everyone chooses to pursue a traditional career in 
one of the commonly ‘acceptable’ industries for Indian-Americans.  Not everyone 
chooses to have a traditional relationship or follow the accepted timeline for 
such things.  And in the past, we believe that too often the Indian community 
has sometimes turned away from or marginalized those that make different 
choices.  Moreover, many young adults who feel compelled
 to follow the ‘norms’ end up less fulfilled or happy than they could be and 
ought to be.

MAIYTRA 2010 aims to celebrate the diversity of our young adult community, and 
to demonstrate that while we share a common interest in preserving our rich 
cultural heritage, it is our multiplicity of experience that will give our 
community the strength and resilience to support each other and future 
generations in the years to come.

Some of the highlights of MAIYTRA 2010 include:

Daytime programs including cultural programs, classes, workshops, discussions 
on relationships, and quarterlife challenges, seminars on religion and 
comparative mythology, and much more! 
Professional opportunities, including a networking happy hour and recruiting 
event, our new mentorship program, an entrepreneurship seminar, and traditional 
and alternate career panels!
Variety in nightlife options (clubbing, lounge, sports bar, pub trivia, and 
more) since we all prefer to unwind in different ways, culminating in our 4th 
of July blowout banquet, dance, and casino night: Casino Royale! 
A stronger emphasis on social and community activism, including a panel on 
Opportunities in Development, and a social service project during the 
convention!
Discover DC during the 4th of July with our Spy Hunt, guided tours, and Taste 
of DC! 
MAIYTRAConnect, our new online social and professional network exclusively for 
our attendees!

We’re planning to include a discussion on the South Asian American LGBT 
experience, how it is perceived or ignored by the community-at-large and the 
impact that reaction has on cultural identity.  We need more volunteers for 
this, so please register and let us know if you want to help!  If we see 
interest in sufficient numbers, we’re also hoping to create LGBT speed dating 
or group icebreakers to coincide with our other singles events on Saturday and 
Sunday.  We also have couples activities, for the first time ever, so you and 
your partner are welcome.

Please consider attending MAIYTRA 2010 and visit our website.  You or your 
partner do NOT have to be Marathi to attend, merely interested in Indian and 
Marathi culture!  We hope to see you in July!


Online registration closes soon, so please don’t wait to sign up!


Regards,

Vijay Paradkar
President, MAIYTRA 2010
presid...@maiytra.com
www.maiytradc.com


  


g_b Our Film in Mumbai's GLBT Film Festival...

2010-04-23 Thread Just me
Dear All,
Me and my partner are featured in a film titled Beyond Boundaries. The film 
will be screened at Mumbai's Kashish Film Festival. Do watch it this saturday 
in Mumbai if you canhere are the details...
Screening at Kashish Mumbai International Queer Film Festival 2010 Date: 
Saturday, April 24, 2010 Time: 10.00 am to 11.30am Venue: Alliance Francaise de 
Bombay, 40 Theosophy Hall Marine Lines, Mumbai, Maharashtra 400020 Phone - 
(022) 2203 5993
(And if you go, please take some pics. I am based in US and won't be there for 
screening and would love to see the actual maahol :)
Thanks,Sameer




  

g_b Gay Indian Wedding...suggestions, ideas...

2010-04-11 Thread Just me
Dear All,
Me and my partner are planning to have our wedding this year. Both of us are 
Maharashtrians and most probably would like to have the rituals and traditions 
that most of the Maharashtrian weddings follow. I am writing to this list 
hoping that some of you might have ventured on this path (wedding - the Indian 
way !!) and might have found some interesting tidbits to share. I think I am 
looking for in general some tips, suggestions, resources for gay Indian 
wedding. We are based in US. Please share your thoughts or other information 
that you might have on this topic. 
Appreciate it !!
Cheers,Sameer




  

Re: g_b Renuka Shahane's show features homosexuality

2010-02-18 Thread Just me
Is this available on youtube or somewhere? what was the name of the show?

--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Aaditya ! aaditya2...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

From: Aaditya ! aaditya2...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: g_b Renuka Shahane's show features homosexuality
To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:21 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  Hi all,
Renuka Shahane anchors a talk show on Zee Marathi. Today's (Friday Feb 12) 
episode featured homosexuality and had Bindumadhav Khire.
I saw the show with my parents and both of them listened to it very calmly and 
positively. Mainly because Renuka didn't refer to homosexuality as 'it' and 
because the person looked/acted/ talked in a drastically different manner than 
what they had seen in 'Kal ho naa ho' and other movies. It was an hour-long 
show.

 It was a brilliant episode overall - considering the fact that a 'household 
name'/'ideal daughter-in- law' Renuka Shahane was associated with it.
When my mother sulked, But this is unnatural!, I gave this long explanation. 
My parents both listened to me very silently. ( Whoa, they heard me out!, I
 thought to myself!)
Congrats to Mr. Khire and a thank you to him too - for setting the ball of my 
coming-out rolling. :-)
Regards,Aditya

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g_b Re:Another homophobic blow from Sakal

2009-07-19 Thread Just me
Dear All,
 
SakaL, Pune's leading newspaper has written completely wrong, homophobic 
article which is full of wrong and biased information. Worst is it comes from 
this Dr. Rajan Bhosale who calls himself sexologist (or whatever right medical 
term is) and he claims how his patients whosuffer from this disease of 
homosexuality suffers from AIDS and sexual diseases. I live in US with my 
partner who is also Maharashtrian. Both of our parents who live in Pune and 
read SakaL told us about this article. Me and my partner have been spending 
time with both sets of parents educating them about right knowledge about 
homosexuality and were bringing them up to the speed. Now, after reading this 
article and especially coming from a doctor they seem to be going total crazy 
since they believe doctors more than anything else and it's coming from a 
newspaper like SakaL. It feels like all the efforts we have been doing to 
educate our parents have gone back to square one just with
 one article.
 
Is there anyway we can write to SakaL and literally ask them for right 
information. I am not sure they realize their wrong information can affect 
people's lives. Are there any Maharashtrian (or marathi speaking and 
understaning) journalists from the fraternity that can help write something. 
All I am asking is some help on how can I get back to SakaL and especially this 
Bhosale guy. Any help would be appreciated. I am fuming after reading this 
article.
 
Sameer
 

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, S S pune_d...@yahoo.fr wrote:


From: S S pune_d...@yahoo.fr
Subject: [gay-marathi] Another homophobic blow from Sakal
To: gay-mara...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:59 AM


  




Sakal seems to have gone nuts...
http://beta. esakal.com/ 2009/07/18141401 /features- saptarang- on-homosexu. 
html

















  

g_b Visiting London

2008-09-15 Thread Just me
Dear All,

I will be visiting London in the first week of October for business. Are there 
any like minded individuals that are interested in meeting coffee or something 
like that. This is going to be my first time in London, so would appreciate any 
tips on local touristy places.

I am originally from India but now based in US. Looking forward to hearing from 
our community.

Regards,
Sameer



  


g_b Manavendra Gohil on Oprah

2007-10-26 Thread Just me
Dear All,
   
  I am based in US and yesterday (Oct. 24) I saw an episode on Oprah where 
Manvendra Gohil (India's Gay Prince) was featured in a segment 'Gays around the 
world'. I think he did fantastic job of sharing his life story as well as some 
elements of gay life in India. Congrats to you Manavendra. I am very curious as 
to how did Indian media handled this? Because last time when Aishwarya was on 
Oprah, Indian newspapers were totally covering that news. Not sure how did the 
response from media was? Please share this with the group.
   
  cheers,
  Sameer
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Re: Fwd: g_b GLBT workplace issues in India Inc.

2007-08-27 Thread Just me
  Hi Salil,
   
  
  Thanks for your feedback. This is very helpful. Although a milder and more 
friendly version of the feedback would have been appreciated, still I am taking 
it in positive spirit because I believe your intent was to help me.
   
  
  Currently I am working full time in US for a Fortune 500 company. I am 
founder and leader of the LGBT and Friends affinity group for my company. I am 
originally from Pune, India and for past 8 years based in US. I am doing an 
independent resaerch (independent research = not funded, not connected with any 
institute/organization and completely voluntary) on the topic of LGBT workplace 
issues in India. Often times I find literature on LGBT workplace issues in 
America Inc. but there is very little information available for India Inc. So I 
have designed this survey to seek some insight into this topic. I am also 
reading some internet literature on this topic. I know this is just a start but 
some of the findings from this survey as well as other references/articles will 
be shared with other professionals working in the LGBT workplace issues area in 
the west. This information will also be helpful for my company as we expand our 
LGBT initiatives to India and other parts of the
 globe.
  Hope this is helpful. Again, as Salil pointed out, I am not a pro at survey 
designing or getting good response to the survey. So if you have any 
constructive feedback, send it across.
   
  cheers,
  Sameer
   
   
  Salil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Sameer,

You could have a better response if you care to introduce yourself and your 
survey in your emails more credibly, instead of  making vague statements about 
how the survey shall be useful, being aggressive and admonishing people for not 
getting interested .

The readers on this list do not know who you are, what work you do, whether you 
are associated with a reputable institute that should inspire trust in your 
promise of confidentiality, why you need to do this research, where the 
information collected will be sent or revealed, and the expected actions from 
this research.

Having done some survey work at some point in my career, I can safely say you 
need to learn more about how to create interest in your respondents !

Best wishes and regards,
Salil

Just me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  If you have not already filled in this survey please do so. So far I only got 
10 responses to the survey and I am sure there is more of our community than 10 
people. If you are working in India currently, this is the survey you should 
fill out. Whole survey is confidential and nowhere your identity will be known 
or revealed.
   
  Your input is going to make a difference.
   
  Let me know if any questions or if there are any other listserves I should 
send the survey to.
   
  Thanks,
  Sameer

Note: forwarded message attached.

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To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Just me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: g_b GLBT workplace issues in India Inc.


  Dear All,
   
  Currently I am working on an independent research paper on the topic of GLBT 
workplace issues in India. I have designed a small survey to get responses from 
our community on this topic. So if you are working in India, please take some 
time to complete this survey. It will not take more than 15 minutes of your 
time. 
   
  http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Zr1BL8X3UPVSYuv0fiQiVw_3d_3d
   
  Getting this data will be helpful to analyze workplace issues faced by GLBT 
community in India Inc. I will be sharing my results with the group once the 
research is finished.
   
  Also, please let me know if there are any other lists I should submit this 
survey to for getting more responses.
   
  Thanks much,
   
  Sameer
   
   



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Fwd: g_b GLBT workplace issues in India Inc.

2007-08-25 Thread Just me
If you have not already filled in this survey please do so. So far I only got 
10 responses to the survey and I am sure there is more of our community than 10 
people. If you are working in India currently, this is the survey you should 
fill out. Whole survey is confidential and nowhere your identity will be known 
or revealed.
   
  Your input is going to make a difference.
   
  Let me know if any questions or if there are any other listserves I should 
send the survey to.
   
  Thanks,
  Sameer

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Dear All,
   
  Currently I am working on an independent research paper on the topic of GLBT 
workplace issues in India. I have designed a small survey to get responses from 
our community on this topic. So if you are working in India, please take some 
time to complete this survey. It will not take more than 15 minutes of your 
time. 
   
  http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Zr1BL8X3UPVSYuv0fiQiVw_3d_3d
   
  Getting this data will be helpful to analyze workplace issues faced by GLBT 
community in India Inc. I will be sharing my results with the group once the 
research is finished.
   
  Also, please let me know if there are any other lists I should submit this 
survey to for getting more responses.
   
  Thanks much,
   
  Sameer
   
   

   
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Re: g_b Qatar airlines

2007-07-15 Thread Just me
Thanks much for your input. I appreciate it.
   
  Sameer


alan george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sameer,
   
  It is a good airline.  The service is good and on time...
   
  I would go for it if it was for my parents.
   
   
  Alan

Just me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you guys know much about Qatar airlines? My parents will be 
visiting US soon and Qatar is having a good deal from India. Before we decide 
to go with the purchase, I wanted to take some opinion about the service and 
other aspects of this airline as I have never travelled before by this airline. 
If you have any feedback about this airline, please let me know. 
   
  Thanks,
  Sameer
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g_b Qatar airlines

2007-05-24 Thread Just me
   Have you guys know much about Qatar airlines? My parents will be visiting US 
soon and Qatar is having a good deal from India. Before we decide to go with 
the purchase, I wanted to take some opinion about the service and other aspects 
of this airline as I have never travelled before by this airline. If you have 
any feedback about this airline, please let me know. 
   
  Thanks,
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Re: g_b Re: Bollywood and Gay Cinema

2006-03-01 Thread Just me
I completely agree with Salil's points mentioned below. Instead of getting 
personal it will be best if we use more lower toned language and not shut up 
other person (because I am sure that's not the intent of Vikram ). Everyone is 
not at the same comfort level accepting their sexuality. And their fears (about 
Sena and other issues) might be real. I guess the main purpose of this list is 
to create a safe platform for everyone (and not just selected few)
   
  While I appreciate all the good work Vikram and volunteers have done in 
Mumbai, we need to be appreciative of other's viewpoints as well. Changes can't 
happen overnight and even though we have made great progress in metro cities 
recently regarding LGBT awareness, I still believe we have long way to go. And 
that can only happen by education and awareness (of our own community and 
masses as well). By shutting down opinions of our own people we might not 
achieve the goal that we are trying to achieve.
   
  cheers,
  Sameer
   
  
Salil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Dear Vikram,

While I appreciate the other information and points of view in your mail, is it 
really necessary to sit in judgement over Sumeet's mail and get annoyed with it 
publicly - does it not run counter to the central purpose of  having a safe 
space ?

I don't see what is annoying about Sumeet's message - he uses the slang gayism 
- one may rant all one wants - but it happens to be slang in the indian gay 
community - if you had instead educated him about why its not a good idea to 
use the suffix ism, that would be constructive. As things stand, you end up 
sounding like a dowdy grammar teacher and sumeet will continue to say gayism :)

Its also difficult to understand why one should be annoyed with Sumeet because 
he is scared of the Shiv Sena and overestimates its influence. I appreciate the 
hard facts you have thrown in about the Sena angle - but why get hysterical and 
suspect that his simple fear is a mask for a supposed mental struggle with 
exploring his sexuality, and worst of all, why allege that he pretends to be 
afraid - he may really be afraid, in which case getting annoyed is of frankly 
no use to anyone !

Cheers
Salil


Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Sumeet 
Mehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
i Ketan!

Its not about bollywood accepting gay cinema but the audience accepting it. And 
till there is ShivSena in maharashtra, i dont think they will allow such films 
to be screened. Infact i feel that people do not mind over gayism till its 
harmless, but Sena never will allow that. Infact everyone is aware about 14th 
feb. How they protest and how they treat lovers. They do not want to think 
beyound. They call it anti Indian Culture. According to me the culture and the 
society has to change with the demanding situations. We all know that India has 
changed its culture or else we all would be still wearing Dhoti and Kurtas 
instead of jeans and t-shirts. This is all double face of politics. So India 
accepting Gays is still a dream, to come true. But again here I dont feel that 
we need to beg for Gayism being accepted. Who are they to grant us permission 
of what we want to do. We live in so called democratic country...bus sirf naam 
ke liye. When we are all aware why to bang heads on the rock and break our 
heads. If they cant accept truth, then they are wrong and not we.

I don't know what annoys me more about this message - the use of 'gayism', a 
word that does not exist, or the assertion that nothing openly gay is possible 
in Bombay at the moment because of fear of the Sena.

Sumeet for your information at the moment there are two films running in 
theatres in Bombay which have queer characters at their centre. Capote is about 
an openly gay and camp man, Saving Face is about a Chinese-American family 
where the daughter, the central character, is openly lesbian and her affair 
with another woman is very openly shown (and no, its not a porn film). There 
hasn't been a word from the Sena.

My Brother Nikhil ran for six weeks in Bombay with no protests. Other films 
like the ones I've mentioned, Rules: Pyar Ka Superhit Formula and Page 3 have 
all had openly gay characters with no objections. There have been two queer 
film festivals in Bombay and both GB and Humsafar regularly show gay films at 
private events.

Plays with gay themes have been presented in Mumbai like A Muggy Night In 
Mumbai and Chottiyasha Suttit (in Marathi, so the Sena couldn't pretend not to 
understand what was going on).

At a larger level, GB has been in operation for seven years, having parties, 
film fests and other events. Humsafar has been in operation even longer and is 
quite high profile and in the news. We have had press conferences on queer 
issues and demonstrations, the last on August 16th. All this has happened with 
the knowledge of the Shiv Sena - so how is your statement that no presentation 
of 'gayism' is possible in Bombay 

Re: g_b My concern

2006-02-26 Thread Just Me
ha ha ha, an eye for an eye? a tooth for a tooth? a
gaali for a gaali? well well well, i am not sure if
that would help, exactly, but if you think it works
try it out :D. Remember,opinions aren't usually
dependent upon expletives and abusive language. Make
your point without it, it just sounds a little better
that way :-)
--- satyajit nayak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement... I cud check my mail only in the weekend...so 
the delay in reply... Sorry 4 dat... For me it takes time and exposure to be 
comfortable in a certain situation... So i think i will also send a mail having 
lotza slangs...so that i get the befitting replies with similar abuses... And 
after a while i will get used to it:-))...and then i wont have these 
apprehensions at least...:-))

Thanks again. Satyajit

Just Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear satyajit, you should not be unduly 
concerned. this is an open forum, and people are bound to agree or disagree to 
a point of view. the point here is, make your point, no matter what the 
reaction be. there will always be those who agree, and those who disagree. some 
might be extremists in their disagreement, but thats all right. you could take 
a call on which remark to consider, and what to ignore. criticism is part of 
life. the best way to deal with it is to face it. as for standing by each 
other thats a tall order. with such varied opinions and thoughts, it is 
tough to get all to see common ground. but one can always strive. all the best 
:)
--- satyajit nayak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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Hi All,

this is not my first mail to this group...have been a passive member of this 
group for quite sometime now...but always deleted the mails after composing 
them.why??? i didnt have the enthu to again face criticism... and read all the 
name callings... we have been getting enuf crap from society...so the least we 
can do is support each other...and respect others point of view...even if we 
dont agree..

sometimes we qstn why many people are just silent members of this group..why 
they dont mail and commuincate..there may be several reasons...i feel one of 
them is --- after reading the contents of the mails...at least i got 
discouraged from sharing my thoughts... i feel most of the people who are not 
from metros and bit naive and hesitant will get discouraged after reading the 
argumentative mails... Am not saying that all the mails are like that...there 
is no dirth of constructive mails..and thats why i am writing all this... The 
point am trying to make is if we can be a bit less abusive towards each 
othermay be ...just may be some more people will also feel encouraged to 
express their opinion...

when someone shares his thoughts with the group... if its a gud deed or a nice 
experience...then everyone gets supportive and encouraging..but if the person 
has done something wrong( and is confessing)...or if the person is a 
bisexual...(there can be quite a bit of examples wrt this)...or if he is 
married gay...then he is called names and finds himself at the receiving end.

If we feel that someone is wrong...then accusation will be the least effective 
weapon to make him realise his mistake...I believe no one wants to hurt anyone 
without any reasons...just that we think pointing out his mistake may do some 
good...thats nice but if it can be done without being harsh...and without being 
judgemental then that wud be more effective...

my thoughts may not be properly sequenced.Please excuse me for that.

Let me re-emphasizeam talking only about a section of mails where personal 
comments and abuses had been made...not all mails.

Luv Jeet.

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g_b : [Gays for LTR] Mr. Right?

2006-02-22 Thread Just Me
Subjective is the best word to end a debate isn't it?
lol, ure right i suppose, so does that make you mr.
right? lol. :-P
--- Sanjay Lulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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I guess Mr. Right is a very subjective concept. :).

On 2/20/06, Just Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tk... Interesting how people try and define mr. right.
on some level, mr. right may not exist as one has
imagined/fantasized about. but then, if a mr. right
were to exist, how would you identify him? would you
gauge as per the criteria you have laid down (secure
job, physically fit, etc.) or would you rather look at
the grey areas in life - for perfect black and white
are again ideals. does that mean you would compromise?
perhaps not, for no matter how much we try, we cannot
do away with standards. standards exist because we
create them to ease our lives. things generally fall
somewhere in between these standards. we have to
decide which is more important then.

therefore, it might help to figure out what one wants
in life, and compare what the other person wants in
life. maybe a match of philophies, shared interests,
common goals, and of course the strength of physical
attraction between the two could set the ball rolling.

but again, there are no set rules - mr. right could be
the one who feels just right to you, perhaps. there
are never clear answers, an open mind helps. cynicism
about LTRs and mr. right's existence may just close
the doors for you.

--- Sanjay Lulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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everyone looks for mr right, they have their set
standards they close their eyes and mind to the
closest ones who would be a good fix for them. after
all love is not finding someone perfect. it is seeing
an imperfect person perfectly, accepting him with his
-ve points adjusting to them and making most of the
+ve whatever liltle is there. It like that email I
received about a tall bldg wiht every floor having a
perfect husband 2 points better then the one on the
ealrier floor. The lady treks to the top floor where
it says good bye u can tbe satisfied So be happy with
what u get a better option does not exist.

Sanjay N

On 2/17/06, jtk53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mr. Right? Who is this man? I see so many looking for
him in so many chatrooms, so many groups..and have
yet seen him appear. Is Mr. Right a man that has a
body that is totally physical fit, defined muscled
man? Mr Right? Ah the man with a secure life,
financially secure, all the nice toys, the awesome
home, totally responsiblity. Mr Right, the man that
has all his ducks in a rowlives a content no
hassel lifestyle, and knows what he wants out of life,
and goes for it. Mr Right, the man that will support
you when you are down and out; carry you when you
struggle in life, and be there for you when you need
him the most. Mr Right will always be committed,
tolerant of your mistakes, poor choices, and
understand you, no matter what. Hey.Mr Right has
never come into a group, a chatroom, and he is not the
type that is looking for a LTR, because LTR are not
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g_b Re: gb Re: [Gays for LTR] Mr. Right?

2006-02-20 Thread Just Me
jtk...
Interesting how people try and define mr. right. on
some level, mr. right may not exist as one has
imagined/fantasized about. but then, if a mr. right
were to exist, how would you identify him? would you
gauge as per the criteria you have laid down (secure
job, physically fit, etc.) or would you rather look at
the grey areas in life - for perfect black and white
are again ideals. does that mean you would compromise?
perhaps not, for no matter how much we try, we cannot
do away with standards. standards exist because we
create them to ease our lives. things generally fall
somewhere in between these standards. we have to
decide which is more important then.

therefore, it might help to figure out what one wants
in life, and compare what the other person wants in
life. maybe a match of philophies, shared interests,
common goals, and of course the strength of physical
attraction between the two could set the ball rolling.

but again, there are no set rules - mr. right could be
the one who feels just right to you, perhaps. there
are never clear answers, an open mind helps. cynicism
about LTRs and mr. right's existence may just close
the doors for you.
 
--- Sanjay Lulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-
everyone looks for mr right, they have their set
standards they close their
eyes and mind to the closest ones who would be a good
fix for them. after
all love is not finding someone perfect. it is seeing
an imperfect person
perfectly, accepting him with his -ve points adjusting
to them and making
most of the +ve whatever liltle is there.
It like that email I received about a tall bldg wiht
every floor having a
perfect husband 2 points better then the one on the
ealrier floor. The lady
treks to the top floor where it says good bye u can
tbe satisfied
So be happy with what u get a better option does not
exist.

Sanjay N


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Mr. Right? Who is this man? I see so many looking for him in so many chatrooms, 
so many groups..and have yet seen him appear. Is Mr. Right a man that has a 
body that is totally physical fit, defined muscled man? Mr Right? Ah the man 
with a secure life, financially secure, all the nice toys, the awesome home, 
totally responsiblity. Mr Right, the man that has all his ducks in a 
rowlives a content no hassel lifestyle, and knows what he wants out of 
life, and goes for it. Mr Right, the man that will support you when you are 
down and out; carry you when you struggle in life, and be there for you when 
you need him the most. Mr Right will always be committed, tolerant of your 
mistakes, poor choices, and understand you, no matter what. Hey.Mr Right 
has never come into a group, a chatroom, and he is not the type that is looking 
for a LTR, because LTR are not fantasies. In other words, Mr Right does NOT 
exist.

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g_b Visiting Minneapolis St Paul

2006-02-08 Thread Just me



Dear All,I will be visiting Minneapolis-St Paul for a work conference next week. I am looking for some tips, suggestionson tourist places to visit/see and any major event happening around that time.(From a tourist stand point). If there are any good Indian/Pakistani restaurants in downtown of St. paul, please let me know. Cheers,  Sameer
	
	
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g_b Workplace policies and Me

2006-02-03 Thread Just me
  Dear All,
   
  I am pleased to let you know that recently my company achieved 100 percent 
score on Human Rights Campaign's (HRC) Corporate Equality Index. HRC is a US 
based organization and their workplace equality project scores Fortune 500 
companies on their workplace equity policies for GLBT employees. (Visit 
www.hrc.org)
   
  My company did not have gender identity and expression included in our non 
discrimination policy and I worked with company management to get that 
incorporated into the policy. There was resistance, lack of knowledge about 
gender identity/expression subject but in the end I was successful. Most of the 
people did not know the difference between sexual orientation and gender 
identity/expression. As we already have sexual orientation included in our 
policy, management thought that should cover everything. People were not ready 
to include those words because they said there are no cases in the past or even 
today that can prove that we need to include this in our policy. After couple 
of back and forth emails, meetings convincing the managemnet how it makes 
business sense to have this policy, finally it has happened. The battle is won 
and the policy is changed to include gender identity and expression. For a 
company based in the heart of the bible belt (mid west) of America, it's a huge
 deal.
   
  After this whole experience, I feel like I have achieved something and made a 
difference to someone's life. Five years back I would have never thought that a 
closetted guy (from India) like me would dare to change workplace policies of a 
Fortune 500 company. But yes, I did it !! I personally don't go to everyone at 
work saying I am Gay, but I don't either hide my personal life if someone asks 
that question. I have pic. of me and my boyfriend at my desk and yes, it feels 
great to be yourself at work. Being open about myself and my identity helped me 
to be productive at workplace and achieve what I always wanted to achieve. I 
wanted to share this with all of you because I truly believe that if we decide, 
we can make a difference in our own as well as people's life. It takes courage 
to take that first step but if you don't take that first step, no one will.
   
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g_b Dnyanapeeth Puraskaar

2006-01-11 Thread Just me
Wonder why this message did not appear on the list yet. 
   
  Cheers,
  Sameer
Friends,
 
It gives me immense pleasure to write that a famous marathi poet-writer Vinda 
Karandikar won the Dnyanapeeth Puraskaar for this year. There will be lots of 
articles about him and his work in the journals for the days to come but one 
point worth mentioning on these lists is he has financially helped various 
social organizations in Maharashtra that work on projects on family planning, 
HIV/AIDS awareness and enunch/hizda empowerment related work.
 
Congrats to Vinda for this accomplishment !!!
 
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Re: g_b My Love,My Life.......an appreciation

2005-12-22 Thread Just Me
Dear Mahesh,

It is beautiful to read the life that you share. And
it is a precious thing that you have been blessed
with. Perhaps the most precious thing one could ever
ask for. Someone who will be with you, no matter what.

Perhaps, that is why we have vows of till death do us
part. Perhaps you have been touched by that love which
eludes the ordinary. What has happened is
extraordinary, and is like a light that shines for
others who feel like you.

Keep this light burning. May both of you be there for
each other, through storms, through the peaceful calm
of life.

Love
Just Me.
--- mahesh patil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

He will not like it at all if he reads this e-mail.He says I dont need to 
express it in words...He can read my silence, feel my mind,can see me more 
clearly than anyone canYes! Hes my MANAnd I am so very proud to flaunt 
him as I move out and socialise within the fraternity. 

You'll must be thinking its quite understandable that everyone feels the same 
for his partner, then what makes HIM so very special to me?Well there are 
innumerable reasons but this one is worth appreciating! 

Last week I hurried back from my college without bothering about my patients(I 
happen to be a health professional) and was just dying to go home and crash! I 
travel from New mumbai to CST.I was boiling with feverI could feel the heat 
radiating out of my bodyI was hyperventilating, feeling extremely 
nauseous.I somehow managed to drag on  till Kurla.I called HIM up from Vashi ,I 
guess and had told him to reach Wadala.I had a massive emesis(puking) before 
Wadala.This further added to my energy loss and made me dehydrated.I took a cab 
at Wadala and reached a nearby hospital for help.I had told the people there to 
take care of my mobile and direct HIM to come here. 

I was lying there trying not to fall unconcious till I see HIM.I was in a state 
of delirium.Finally HE came and lifted me up and put me in a cab and took me to 
his house.I had several episodes of emesis and had a blasting headache.On 
reaching home he got a local Physician.The doctor concluded that I would be 
suffering from MALARIA FALCIPARUM(most dreadful and fatal one).after my blood 
reports came it was confirmed! I was on injectable drugs and had not eaten 
anything in the past 16 -18 hours. 

He cooked hot and a blandKhichdi  for me.He fed me like a baby and put me to 
sleep.He kept taking my temperature throuoghout the night,I bet he had hardly 
slept.Next morning I happened to pass urine in about 24 hours,I was not able to 
move a inch.He did the needful.Later he sponged me,got me fresh clothes.He saw 
to it that I am as comfortable as possible .As i started feeling better I used 
to order him (I hate myself) and ask him to make whatever I wanted to eat or 
do.This man never even made a face.He also saw to it that I wasnt getting bored 
and got some movie for entertainment. 

I think its incredible that such people do existThey are a manifestation of 
Gods existance.I am extremely lucky that I have such a loving partner...and I 
mean in the real sense of the term I OWE MY LIFE TO HIMI wouldnt have 
been able to see this day if it was not him. 

Gay relations they say are very momentary and transient.The physical intimacy 
is the prime focus.But I think Me and my PARTNER have proved enough that 
GAYNESS is not about SEX but about a FEELING.A feeling that gives you strength, 
ability to stand against all odds...a meaning to your life 

Thats all friendsDo write in your comments ...I just wana sayBABY I 
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Re: g_b its not cheating if married man has sex with guys.. its cheating if sex is with girls

2005-11-30 Thread Just Me
isnt the gita great? it lets ppl like our man in
question get away with any shit they can justify on
this planet. sir, i want to ask you, are gay
relationships so frivolous to you that u need not
consider it necessary to confess it to your wife? and
what u call as non-cheating, is perhaps a misnomer, as
rightly explained by Rakshas here?

boo hoo mr. married guy, go take ure silly alibis and
excuses and convince your conscience only. we're not
buying it. not now, not ever!

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any to this mail but a loud cynical LAUGH
   
  Gawd how hyppocritical can men be?
   
  sleeping outside one's relationship is WRONG
irrespective of which gender is sleeping with which.

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  Hi zeus ..is it very strange??A man decide to marry
because of his family and social postion specially in
middleeast and asian
country ..now he is married and besides his marriage
life he wants to have his gay safe sex life without
harming his marriage
life and wife...so what`s wrong with it???is that mean
he doesnot
love her wife??love is not sex...love is beyond
sex..but sex with
a man or boy is only sex most of the times and ends
soon after sex and arise again the other day...if
one`s wife also goes with
a girl or woman it`s not important but if she goes
with a man it`s not tolerable...and that means she is
in love with that man
...i hope you get my words..take life
easy..bye

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???
? 
 ? ? ?? ? can someone 
anyone plz plz plz rationalise the below for me ? 

there was one Confucious and now this confusius !!
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hi...i agree with this married man...one could have a
wife and love her and make sex to her and also could
have a sex with an other man it`s not cheating on
wife..if having sex with a man but it`s cheating if a
married man has sex with an other woman or girl other
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g_b Sangama's video CD

2005-11-17 Thread Just me



Dear All,Recently I attended a Diversity Conference in NY. I was pleasantly surprised to see the event was promoting Bangalore based SANGAMA's Many Lives, many desires VCD. I think that was the name. Sorry, if I have forgotten. In any case, couple of my friends were wondering where to buy this CD from. Do any of you know about it. I can buy it in India or here in US. Just let me know where to purchase from.Thanks in advance for your help,cheers,  Sameer
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Re: g_b link to report on the cooking meet

2005-11-07 Thread Just me



Thanks Vikram for posting this. I enjoyed reading this blog and I kept telling my boyfriend that we should move back to India and that too to Aamachi MUmbai. It sounds like so much fun that all of you guys are having there. Keep it up.

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g_b Visiting NY-NJ area

2005-10-25 Thread Just me



Dear All,

I will be visiting Jercy city, NJ in early November for business. I am interested in some sight seeing in this area and around NY (statue of liberty etc...usual desi stuff :) Since I don't know anyone in the city, wouldn't mind some tips on the same. It will be neat to meet interesting people on this list as well. I am 30yo, cute Indian origin guy. I am not looking for sex or anything like that.If there are any desi events/good theater going on around the area in that time frame, please let me know. I always wanted to see broadway performances.

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Re: g_b Re: I Wonder ?

2005-10-12 Thread Just me



I disagree with Vikram as well on this point as I met my boyfriend through internet and we have been together for last 2 years already. I must admit that the most wonderful gay friends I have met are online and I am still in touch with them. I think there is no one place where you can find guys for relationships. You just have to make sure you tell what you are lkg for.Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're mostly finding people on the Net who are only interested in sex because the Net is where most people just go for sex. You wouldn't look for fish in the vegetable market, so why not try to find the guys you're looking for in the right place? And that sure isn't online? Look, most people go to the Net because it's perfect for anonymous encounters, so people who want that will get that. But try coming to meetings, parties, film screenings of the kind organised by Gaybombay or Humsafar and you will meet people in person and those are more likely to result in relationships. In the seven years its been in existence Gaybombay has facilitated many long term relationships, including my own, which was one of the first. But I'm pretty sure all these happened at real life meetings, not over the Net. So stop looking for what
 the Net is unlikely to give and try coming to a real world meeting where you might get what you want, Vikram===i disagree with vikram. it is not black and white as vikram is making it out to be. there are many decent ppl who use the net to meet ppl for friendship/love/realtionship . of course there are those who seek sex. but then this happens in gb paries/meeting as well.. there are some who come to enjoy or make friends and then there are those who come for finding a buddy for quick casual sex. to label either the internet or even the parties/meets one way or the other would not be a fair assesmentregardsmoderator===--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "handsome_redfort" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been chatting on net for the last 5 month... meet many guys on net. Before i
 started out on internet I use to see this fuzzy dream that I would meet the kind of guy I m looking for. Some one to put my head on his sholder when I m feeling low and many other things which sound quite soothing for a shy and introward guy like me. I registered myself to the various dating sites. get responses too. But I get only disappointment every time I talk to a new guy. Its all start off with the good and nice words and comes to end with SEX. Is the sex the only thing for a person to enter into friendship with ? Why can't people see the world beyond sex beyond being physical lusty. I m belonging to the community which lives under dark. I have many issues to share. But no one cares. I guess may be I m expecting too much good from the people. I believed in the story of peoples who love each other without any conditions. May be its all hype in the stories and nothing more then that. I m fed up with the never ending search of this
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Re: g_b Re: an early brush with sexual experience turned me gay

2005-10-06 Thread Just me
stud_ of bombay shared his experiences of early brush with sexual experiences 
with a guy. I wonder in how many cases this happens and guys turn gay. I mean 
it is a well known fact that some % of guys can become gay because of this 
(someone in their family doing crazy stuff when they are kids) but is it true 
for each gay person. I don't think so. I have gay friends from  various 
countries of the world(that's the advantage of living in US) and they had 
perfect childhood just like me or anyone else, and attraction for men came very 
naturally to them just like it came naturally to me. 
 
So my point is such instances should not be taken as a general rule that all 
gays had gone through such experiences in their childhood and that turned them 
gay. We already have such a low self esteem among lot of us and such stories 
does not help to boost your self esteem.
 
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Re: g_b Being gay without being deceitful

2005-10-06 Thread Just me



Geoffrey,
Thanks for sharing your story. I myself am very comfortable with my sexuality and has decided not to marry a woman and ruin her life just to please my parents. You story make me feel right on my decision and boost my confidence. Thanks for being brave and sharing the truth about your life with us. I hope other guys who are married and living a double life can share their experiences, not as how their life is miserable but share what are the facts of a double life so that gay guys can think twice before getting married and ruin another girl and her family's life. 

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I remember always being totally happy washing dishes for my mum, cooking, cleaning hanging out with the aunties rather than the uncles.I enjoyed undressing in the boys toilets at the beach but I had never heard of gay or homosex in the 50's and 60's.I mentioned the interest to the family physician who just said all you have to do is to find a good woman and marry her and all your problems will come right.Well I did and we will celebrate 40 years of marriage next year but the remission only lasted for the first 10 years after which a double life was the only practical option.I now know better. I realise what the fantasies meant as I was growing up as young as seven and eight years of age. I was screwed for many years by the God Hates Fags theology which caused me to study the socio historical origins of that theology and be able to
 expose it as a social construct and nothing to do with morality or faithfulness to my maker.My only regret is that my partner is married to a man who can't fulfil the till death do us part sexuality. Freedom has been offered and rejected.It is high time that we take notice of the differences in orientation and stop making young gay men and women hate the fact that they are constructed with a predominant same sex attraction over which they have no control and also stop forcing heterosexist alliances in the name of culture.Yet another heterosexual marriage of a gay man and a heterosexual woman will take place in another Indian State this month. I know because I am a guest.The real question for me is not why I'm gay but really why it is so difficult to accommodate my orientation into the social patterns of life without being deceitful or consigning a partner to a lifetime of frustration. I think I have made a reasonable start in the process of
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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-04 Thread Just me



I completely disagree with Prasanth's view that we chose to like men over women and if we decide then we can start liking men. Prasant can you make similar statement for heterosexuals? I wonder.

For me personally, I always had attraction for men and I did not grow up in a over powering parents' house. My parents were loving, caring and always encouraged to take risks and be brave in life. So I do not buy his point on parenting. I hope there is healthy discussion on nature vs. nurture on this forum based on personal experiences. I totally agree and believe why we are gay is because of genetics just in the same way whu mysister is straight- because of genetics.

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I don't think being gay is because GOD wanted us to be like this or because we are born gay. It is more to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances. Psychological factors also affect a person to become a gay or straight. If your parents are over protective and shield you from the big bad world , there is every chance that you develop female tendencies of being soft and timid. Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man.I think it is all in the mind. If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to. It is all about being confortable with one's sexuality. If I choose to like men than women, it is my choice and I making this choice not because I was born that way or GOD made me. It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions.





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g_b Vichaar.org

2005-09-17 Thread Just me





Recently read vichaar.org site and found that Fame Gurukul has gay contestants. Read the first article on the same. There is a big debate going on with lot of hatred posts from straight community. Apparantly someone who has a gay brother is trying to put the gay people's side to the story. Very interesting to read. I am gonna put my thoughts on the same. Feel free to post your views as well. Looks like someone from queer community need to make some posts to enlighten some folks :)

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Re: g_b Commitments....are they so difficult?

2005-08-25 Thread Just me



Mahesh,

You raised very good question. I myself used to wonder a lot on this topic. I think societal accepatnce helps to build relationships and makes the commitment stronger. Heterosexuals have social infrastructure in place that allows them to get married, hold each other's hands in public, make love, be affectionate with each other freely in society. Small things like this, are a privilege to homosexual/queer community. Not having this social infrastructure in place, social rituals that will honor and celebrate your love for one another makes commitment/union a dream. Having said this Ialso think that an individual also has responsibility to make a relationship work or be committed to only one person. In absence of these social aids that I talked earlier, this might be tough but never impossible task. That's why we see rarely but unique gay/lesbian couples together for so many years. I and my boyfriend are lucky to have friends who have been together in committed relationships
 for 5/10/15 years. Seeing something like this definitely gives you confidence that you yourself will also have such a lasting relationship.

Just my two paise :)

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Being very proud to be Gay, I have always wondered...Are commitments really so difficult in the Gay world? I am always reffered to as a " baccha" by my friends which keep telling me that "strong" gay relationships are a rare sight and very transient...But then I think of Samir and Dibs, they have been together for 14 years...

Dont you think that in a way we ourselves are responsible for not having good strong relationships?We are ready to be friends, ever ready to share beds but when it comes to commiting...why do we back out? I really dont understand why do we hesitate to say that "yes I shall be there for you and only you" Having friends is different but having a loving partner who would entirely be yours is such a divine feeling, isnt it?


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Does anyone know email id of Sachin Kundalkar. Pl. let me know if anyone knows.

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g_b Real Estate in Pune and around area

2005-06-29 Thread Just me





Hello Group,
Me and couple of my friends who are based in US (but originally from Pune)areinterested in real estate in Pune (preferrably plots for bunglows). If any of you are in that business or know of any contacts, it would be highly appreciated if you can email their contact info. Since we are working in US, it is very hard for us to find local real estate agents who are reliable. Any help in this matter is appreciated. 
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Re: Re: g_b Marathi Movies - A Treat in itselves.......... Read add your views.

2005-06-10 Thread Just me
Hi Vivek,
 
I agree with your comment of Umbartha movie. I think they should have done more 
research before putting the dialogue that these issues can be solved with 
psychiatric help, which is indeed a sad part. I wish new directors like Sunil 
Sukathankar, Sumitra Bhave handle homosexuality topic through their movies. 
They seem to address lot of social issues with great sensitivity.
 
By the way, for those marathi readers, there is a very good book on lesbian 
topic called He Dookh Kunya Janmache by Mangala Athalekar (Rajhans 
Prakashan). The book introduces the topic about homosexuality and has 
interviews from lesbians around Pune and Mumbai. I thought that was a good 
start and am planning to use this book as one of my marathi literature resource 
while coming out to my folks when they will visit me in US. I am nervous :)
 
Anyway, keep them coming,
 
Sameer

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Umbartha is one of my most favourite films and i considered it as Smita Patils 
most flawless performance and not to forget the memorable music and songs like 
Chand Maatla and Soonya Soonya Mehfileet maajha   

Umbartha not just had a lesbian scene it had a complete lesbian angle in the 
story and the love angle was handled sensitively. Smita does fight the 
discrimination but also if you remember in her fighting discrimination she 
tells the authorities that Such things do happen and can be treated with 
pshyciatric help which was rather sad. 

The film came from the likes of Dr. Jabbar Patel and had Smita and Girish 
karnad. I wonder at that time ( and believe me i grew up in 70's and they were 
bold times with bold themes ) if anyone in the team actually gave it a thought 
before incorporating such a dialogue in the film.

Marathi cinema has given us some more memorable films like Paathlaag ( remade 
as Mera Saaya in Hindi )Vahinichya Bangdya' ( remade as Bhabhi ki choodiyan in 
hindi) Jait re Jait. There was this wonderful comedy about three thieves who 
take shelter in a simple villagers home and how their simplicity changes all of 
them. The film also had the great song  ughad daar devaa aata..ughad daar deva 

let me know if you remember the name of the movie.

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Re: g_b Marathi Movies - A Treat in itselves.......... Read add your views.

2005-06-08 Thread Just me
Sahil and others,
 
I am also a big time fan of marathi language and literature. I do enjoy 
watching some marathi movies but not many. I LOVED ashi hi banava banavi 
movie very much. Sachin, lakshya, sushant and ashok saraf are great in this 
movie. I recently purchased couple of marathi vcd's from India. Shyamachi aai, 
umbaratha, samana are worth watching. Umbartha is one movie worth mentioning as 
it has a lesbian shot and issue handled in it. Smita Patil fights with the 
discrimination with lesbian couple in the jail. I thought that was a daring 
step to even address the issue for that time (1980-81) in a marathi movie. 
 
I would request others on this list to share movies from their own native 
languages which are worth watching. India has such a good diversity of 
languages and cultures and I wish to enjoy these from other languages as well. 
If those movies have subtitles in English we all can enjoy them.

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g_b Indian Idol

2005-03-08 Thread Just me


Dear Friends,

I am very curious how no discussions have happened on this forum about indian 
Idol show on sony TV. I am based in US, but watched couple of episodes in India 
in Dec. and was totally hooked to it. I am sure others like me enjoyed the 
first season of it and looking forwrad for second season. Any gossips, any news 
about any of the participants in the show. personally I loved Rahul Vaidya and 
Amit tandon looks wise and Abhijit Sawant for his voice. I thought Sony did a 
great job of marketing and packaging of the show to become it popular. If any 
of you are involved in making of this show, do share your 
experiencesConsidering gays have lot of artistic talents I am sure some 
members of this group must be involved with the show in one way or the other

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Re: g_b A Good Read!

2005-02-18 Thread Just me


C K Prahlad is very well know personality in Corporate America with his work in 
Corporate strategy and leadership. I have read some of his articles on the same 
topic that you have mentioned Smartie in my MBA class and he makes really great 
arguments about serving the world's poor profitably. I would highly recommend 
his reading.
 
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A book given to me as gift was fascinating in its theory and the possibilities 
it unfolds. Dr C K Prahalad's  Fortune at the bottom of the pyramid. He tries 
to argue that the vast populace in the underdeveloped world is a huge market 
potential to multinationals also provided they innovate and come out with 
products and processes which provide value at the price these markets can 
afford. He argues that this is possible and quotes the live examples of such 
experiments and successful ones in India and South America mainly Brazil. As he 
is arguing for multinationals to enter and gain from this market he gives 
prominence to examples of HLL and ITC - Wheel detergent, sachets and e-choupal 
of ITC (to make the farmer know the market for his produce before venturing out 
to sell). ICICI bank's ability to project itself has made their Self Help Group 
effort borrowed from Bank of Madura and developed essentially to achieve 
prority sector targets as a pioneering effort on micro financing
 while the credit for that lies in Bangladesh and later in NABARD for copying 
it. SBI has more SHGs than ICICI but as he is concentrating on private sector 
attempt at poverty alleviation it does not matter. What I felt bad about the 
whole exercise was not giving as much prominence to the Amul experiment as it 
deserves especially when it literally transformed the fortunes of the nation 
through its milk revolution. Again co-operatives are not multinationals. But 
what is commendable about the book is the writing style and the arguments to 
make MNCs see this as a great busines opportunity with the help of NGOs by 
building up  new markets altogether and then emulating that experience 
elsewhere to create newer ones. Will be of interest to Jagan and others who are 
into microfinancing in a big way to get private sector initiatives into this 
vast area which will also make political sense and not cause characters like 
Chandrababu Naidu to be sidelined as urban biased before they could take
 forward the e revolution to rural areas in a big way. Happy Reading.The case 
studies portion is yet to be read. The book also carries CD on some case 
studies. A brand new experience for me who is accustomed to old time academics. 
 

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g_b Ashok Rao Kavi

2004-12-06 Thread Just me



Can anyone forward me Ashok Rao Kavi's personal email id. 

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Re: g_b Booker Prize for a gay novel

2004-10-31 Thread Just me


Sameer,

Thanks for sharing this article from Hindustan Times,
Lucknow. It's encouraging to see some Indian press
writing about this stuff. I heard this award news
first in US and then I was curious how my hometown
newspaper (SakaL- marathi publication from Pune)gives
out this news. 

And I was shocked when they didn't even
mention that this novel is about a gay person. They
just mentioned that the novel is about a youth lost in
money,politics and drugs. There was no mention about
homosexuality, gay- anything. The news was merely 4
lines long. Isn't it a shame when newspapers don't
portray the real news and selectively publish the
stuff. 

I found SakaL to be very conservative and I am
not sure if there is a forum where we can fight such
kind of discrimination. I in fact have written a
marathi article on growing up in Pune and have snet it
to esakal.com net editors and the net editors refused
to publish it (inspite of my constant attempts, so I
finally gave up).

Any advice from journalists on this list??

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g_b NDTV Program: Is Homosexuality out of Closet in India

2004-10-20 Thread Just me



Hi All,

Just watched a recorded tape of NDTV's recent debate
on Is Homosexuality out of Closet in India. I think
it was a very good discussion and my heartiest
congratulations to Ashok, Geeta, Anjali and Suhel
Seth. I think the Father who represented the
conservative view was very hyprocritical, but all of
you did a great job of representing our community and
our concerns. I wish more of such debates happen in
India.

I myself work in US in Diversity management area and I
am responsible for Diversity training for our India
location. I am going to have this debate viewed by my
trainers in India-if they haven't seen it (it's
located in Pune.)Currently we don't have sexual
orientation as one of the topic in our Diversity
training in India, but with this debate I think my
trainers will get more sensitivity about the subject.

Hats off to all of you for such a great work. Let's
keep the work going :)

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Re: g_b Marathi article

2004-10-14 Thread Just me


Dear All,

Thanks for all of your responses who took time to
write to me personally and convey your liking of the
article. That gives me encouragement to write more
about various issues we struggle through our life. I
am glad to be part of this net-community..

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[gay_bombay] Coming Out resources

2004-09-17 Thread Just me

Dear All,

I am seeking some help from the group. I am originally
from India but now living in US for last 5 years. I am
planning to come out to my parents who are living in
Pune, India. I am already out to my younger sister and
she is comfortable with my sexuality although she is
not in favor of me coming out to my parents. But I no
more can handle questions from them about my marriage
and I think they deserve to know the truth. So...to
make it a short story, here are some things which I am
seeking help from the group on:

1) Any Indian literature (preferrably in Marathi,
Hindi) which talks about homosexuality in a positive
way.
2) Any gay friendly doctor/psychologist who can
educate them about this topic (instead of curing me)
(preferrably in Pune as I know they would want me to
seek a doctor once they come to know.)
3)Any other parents in Pune or Mumbai area who have
gone through similar situation and are positive about
the whole thing. I realized my parents have lot of
influence from someone who is from their own age
group- so may be they might be able to get more
perspective about this from someone who has gone
through the similar phase.
4) Any other tips on coming out (shall I do it by
phone/email/one on one), or in presence of my sister
and other family members. Or any damn thing which you
think had helped you in your coming out process.

Let's hope for the best as I get ready to take this
big step in my life. I know there is going to be lot
of emotions,crying and all that drama involved but I
know one thing that I love my parents and they love me
to death, so in the end it will be all cool :)

Anyway, Happy Ganesh Chaturthi to everyoneI miss
India during ganapati festival...:)

Cheers and thanks for listeningI love this web
community

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