Re: gEDA-user: wrong pinout lm7912 symbol
Hi John, On Saturday 15 September 2007 15:03, John Luciani wrote: On 9/15/07, Werner Hoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be fairly safe with the pinouts of the LM79xx and LM78xx since they are older parts and the variety of power dissipation packages is small. There's a TO92 package out there, too. Is the TO92 package for LM79xx or for an LM79Lxx? Maybe it was a LM79Lxx. The dropout voltage on the LM79xx series is fairly high. I would be surprised to see it in a TO92 package. The voltage drop does not care for low current applications, only the power does. Regards Werner ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: pcb-20070912
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:21:30 -0400 Dan McMahill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I call the command window with ':', it appears without the text entry field (Dropdown and Close buttons are there). When I press the dropdown button, _crash_ - pcb disappears! John wierd. I'm not able to reproduce this. I get the entry and no crash. Which GUI are you using? Lesstif or Gtk? What happens if you go into the preferences-general tab and turn off the separate command window option? Can you get a back trace on the crash? Hi Dan. Another day, no more crashes. I'll try more later today. Maybe they appear after a while of usage (as they did they other day). There are a few suspicious messages I hadn't seen because I normally don't call PCB from a terminal. 1) When opening the 'Open file' dialog, I get four times: *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice 2) When toggling the unit button, I get (not the first time): (pcb:20034): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_toggle_action_set_active: assertion `GTK_IS_TOGGLE_ACTION (action)' failed handle_grid_units_change() get_grid_value_index() get_grid_value_index() (pcb:20034): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_toggle_action_set_active: assertion `GTK_IS_TOGGLE_ACTION (action)' failed I'll try to re-crash this evening. Thanks, John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Question regarding 1st LTSpice simulation
I tell my son the only dumb question is the one never asked. So with
that...
I'm doing an LTSpice simulation and following Stuart's howto. In the
Running LTSpice with gEDA designs step 5 is:
Create a link from your netlist output.net and a netlist in the directory
in which SwCADIII lives. Make the netlist suffix .cir. For example: ln -s
${DESIGN_HOME}/output.net ${WINE_HOME}/.wine/fake_windows/Program
Files/LTC/SwCADIII/MyDesign.cir
My questions are these:
1. Earlier in the howto I was directed to netlist my design and name it
design.cir. This is the netlist in my design directory and it ends in .cir
not .net. Should Stuart's howto read ${DESIGN_HOME}/output.cir and not
output.net?
2. Did I miss something and I was supposed to copy the netlist to the
directory in which SwCADIII lives or does the link create a phantom netlist?
Thanks,
Rob
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Re: gEDA-user: Question regarding 1st LTSpice simulation
On Sep 16, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Robert Butts wrote:
I'm doing an LTSpice simulation and following Stuart's howto. In the
Running LTSpice with gEDA designs step 5 is:
Create a link from your netlist output.net and a netlist in the
directory
in which SwCADIII lives. Make the netlist suffix .cir. For example:
ln -s
${DESIGN_HOME}/output.net ${WINE_HOME}/.wine/fake_windows/Program
Files/LTC/SwCADIII/MyDesign.cir
My questions are these:
1. Earlier in the howto I was directed to netlist my design and
name it
design.cir. This is the netlist in my design directory and it ends
in .cir
not .net. Should Stuart's howto read ${DESIGN_HOME}/output.cir and
not
output.net?
LTSpice doesn't care whether the netlist is called .net or .cir.
2. Did I miss something and I was supposed to copy the netlist to the
directory in which SwCADIII lives or does the link create a phantom
netlist?
you can open the file from anywhere; it does not have to be in the
SwCAD III directory. However, SwCADIII has a ridiculous hard-coded
library directory structure ...
-a
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Re: gEDA-user: dialogue boxes drifting each time they are opened (gschem 1.2.0)
Cesar Strauss wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
Duncan Drennan wrote:
This can be especially frustrating with attribute dialogues that keep
drifting off the bottom of the screen, and have to be dragged back to
a useable place.
I'm running gschem on cygwin.
Anyone else seeing this?
Yes, gschem on cygwin as well.
I think it's a bug in Cygwin/X multi-window mode, triggered by new code
in gschem that restores the dialog positions.
The attached patch contains a workaround: show the dialog before
restoring its position.
The patch is also available in the patch tracker:
[ 1795879 ] Fix for dialogs drifting downwards on Cygwin/X
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1795879group_id=161080atid=818428
Regards,
Cesar
From 67ec59b69f10d82b7111fede109873e32b238439 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Cesar Strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:56:18 -0300
Subject: [PATCH] Fix for dialogs drifting downwards on Cygwin/X.
On Cygwin/X, reopening a gschem dialog restores its original position,
but with a small vertical offset.
The workaround is to show the dialog before restoring its position.
The docs for gtk_window_move() offer a possible justification:
Most window managers ignore requests for initial window positions
(instead using a user-defined placement algorithm) and honor requests
after the window has already been shown.
The downside is, if you have a slow system, you could see the dialog
appear briefly at the old position, I suppose.
---
gschem/src/gschem_dialog.c |6 +++---
1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/gschem/src/gschem_dialog.c b/gschem/src/gschem_dialog.c
index b4eefd0..bc5771b 100644
--- a/gschem/src/gschem_dialog.c
+++ b/gschem/src/gschem_dialog.c
@@ -220,6 +220,9 @@ static void show_handler (GtkWidget *widget)
gchar *group_name;
GschemDialog *dialog = GSCHEM_DIALOG( widget );
+ /* Let GTK show the window */
+ GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (gschem_dialog_parent_class)-show (widget);
+
group_name = dialog-settings_name;
if (group_name != NULL) {
@@ -230,9 +233,6 @@ static void show_handler (GtkWidget *widget)
dialog_geometry, group_name);
}
}
-
- /* Let GTK show the window */
- GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (gschem_dialog_parent_class)-show (widget);
}
--
1.5.3
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Re: gEDA-user: Question regarding 1st LTSpice simulation
When I'm creating the link how do you type the space in the directory
Program Files? See below:
/fake_windows/Program Files/LTC/SwCADIII/MyDesign.cir
On 9/16/07, Andy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 16, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Robert Butts wrote:
I'm doing an LTSpice simulation and following Stuart's howto. In the
Running LTSpice with gEDA designs step 5 is:
Create a link from your netlist output.net and a netlist in the
directory
in which SwCADIII lives. Make the netlist suffix .cir. For example:
ln -s
${DESIGN_HOME}/output.net ${WINE_HOME}/.wine/fake_windows/Program
Files/LTC/SwCADIII/MyDesign.cir
My questions are these:
1. Earlier in the howto I was directed to netlist my design and
name it
design.cir. This is the netlist in my design directory and it ends
in .cir
not .net. Should Stuart's howto read ${DESIGN_HOME}/output.cir and
not
output.net?
LTSpice doesn't care whether the netlist is called .net or .cir.
2. Did I miss something and I was supposed to copy the netlist to the
directory in which SwCADIII lives or does the link create a phantom
netlist?
you can open the file from anywhere; it does not have to be in the
SwCAD III directory. However, SwCADIII has a ridiculous hard-coded
library directory structure ...
-a
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gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
Seems a trivial thing, but what do you all use as a footprint for test points on the board? I'm just looking for something I can stick a meter probe onto easily, and maybe solder a wire onto if I need to modify the circuit in an unanticipated way. I am thinking that either a fairly fat pin (which will end up plated through) or just a circular SMT pad would be about right -- and how do I make a circular SMT pad? I guess a square pad would be fine except for aesthetics and expectations. If anybody has a ready-made footprint, I'd appreciate a pointer to it. (I searched on gedasymbols.org and didn't find any footprints -- though DJ did have an appropriate gschem symbol.) -- Randall ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: dialogue boxes drifting each time they are opened (gschem 1.2.0)
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 17:43 -0300, Cesar Strauss wrote: Cesar Strauss wrote: Ben Jackson wrote: Duncan Drennan wrote: This can be especially frustrating with attribute dialogues that keep drifting off the bottom of the screen, and have to be dragged back to a useable place. I'm running gschem on cygwin. Anyone else seeing this? Yes, gschem on cygwin as well. I think it's a bug in Cygwin/X multi-window mode, triggered by new code in gschem that restores the dialog positions. The attached patch contains a workaround: show the dialog before restoring its position. The patch is also available in the patch tracker: [ 1795879 ] Fix for dialogs drifting downwards on Cygwin/X http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1795879group_id=161080atid=818428 This will have to be tested against various different window managers. It took a fair bit of iteration to get the previous version to work without visual artifacts when presenting windows. Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
On 9/16/07, Randall Nortman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems a trivial thing, but what do you all use as a footprint for test points on the board? I'm just looking for something I can stick a meter probe onto easily, and maybe solder a wire onto if I need to modify the circuit in an unanticipated way. I am thinking that either a fairly fat pin (which will end up plated through) or just a circular SMT pad would be about right -- and how do I make a circular SMT pad? I guess a square pad would be fine except for aesthetics and expectations. If anybody has a ready-made footprint, I'd appreciate a pointer to it. (I searched on gedasymbols.org and didn't find any footprints -- though DJ did have an appropriate gschem symbol.) I usually use the footprint CON_TP__Vector_K24 which is for a Vector K24 pin. I also have footprints for the Keystone 5000, 5005 and 5010 test points. They are under the connector heading at http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
Seems a trivial thing, but what do you all use as a footprint for test points on the board? I usually just add vias wherever I need one; mine aren't official in that they're not in the schematics. I'm just looking for something I can stick a meter probe onto easily, and maybe solder a wire onto if I need to modify the circuit in an unanticipated way. You want a one pin, 35 mil drill, header. That's just right for soldering in a 25mil square pin or a 22 gauge wire. and how do I make a circular SMT pad? Create a line. Drag one end to overlap the other, creating a zero-length line. Cut to the buffer and convert to an element. Poof! Circular pad. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: dialogue boxes drifting each time they are opened (gschem 1.2.0)
[snip] This will have to be tested against various different window managers. It took a fair bit of iteration to get the previous version to work without visual artifacts when presenting windows. Another possibility is to make this ordering difference configurable. -Ales ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 08:11:40PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Seems a trivial thing, but what do you all use as a footprint for test points on the board? I usually just add vias wherever I need one; mine aren't official in that they're not in the schematics. Except when you have your boards fabbed with soldermask, vias end up covered. My smaller vias are often plugged up with mask, though larger ones do usually end up as holes, but the annular ring is still covered. Either way, it's hard to get a solid connection to it with a test probe. and how do I make a circular SMT pad? Create a line. Drag one end to overlap the other, creating a zero-length line. Cut to the buffer and convert to an element. Poof! Circular pad. Right, I knew this, as I use this trick to make silkscreen dots. I should have guess it would work for pads too. Thanks. -- Randall ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Special ESC Free Dog gathering this coming Wed, 9.19.2007!
-- Free Dog Gathering Announcement This month there are two exciting opportunities for a Free Dog gathering in Boston. We've already had one fruitful get-together at the Bear Rock Cafe in Reading. Now, coincident with the Embedded Systems Conference in Boston's Back Bay, we'll hold a second meeting so we can meet gEDA users who are in town for the conference! This time, we'll meet at the Trident Bookstore and Cafe, 338 Newbury Street in Boston's Back Bay: http://www.tridentbookscafe.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp We'll meet at 7:00pm either at the bar or in the restaurant area. As always, the meeting will be an open and informal working session. Bring your laptop *and* wireless card! Some items to discuss or work on include: * Stuart will finally merge and commit patches submitted against gerbv! * Spice-sdb and that annoying pinseq attribute * Anything up with Fritzing? * Looking to next year: Best practices for mentoring Google's Summer of Code. * What's up at the ESC? * Whatever you are interested in! Free Dog is an association of like-minded hackers and engineers interested in free and open EDA tools. We hold monthly (or sometimes more frequent) meetings around the Boston area featuring informal networking, speakers, and camaraderie. Our goals are to learn more about CAD, engineering and scientific software, share ideas about our current projects, and -- most importantly -- have fun with like-minded people. We welcome new members and participants of all ages. Students are particularly welcome! Date: Wednesday, Sept 19th, 2007. (*** Note special day ***) Time: 7:00pm, Eastern US Time. Location: (*** Note special location ***) IRC: #geda For more details, please contact me privately at sdb (* AT *) cloud9 (* DOT *) net. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 07:21:47PM -0400, Randall Nortman wrote: Seems a trivial thing, but what do you all use as a footprint for test points on the board? I use this, and the named part: Element[0x0 Electronic Goldmine G13798A Testpoint 0 0 0 0 0 100 0x0] ( Pin[0 0 10500 2000 12500 6500 1 0x01] ElementArc[0 0 6250 6250 0 360 1000] ) You can see 3 (two black, one orange) on this board: http://ad7gd.net/flex/flex-build4.jpg Hm, looks like goldmine is sold out, though :( -- Ben Jackson AD7GD [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ben.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
Except when you have your boards fabbed with soldermask, vias end up covered. They just default that way; you can turn it off. My latest board has all the vias exposed, I just selected the whole board and umasked all selected vias. Something like this... Select-All View-Show Mask :ChangeClearSize selectedvias =1 mil :MinMaskGap selectedvias =3 mil Minmaskgap won't change anything with a *zero* mask, but setting the vias to some small but non-zero number lets you grow them out to your fab's minimum (mine was 3 mil clearance). ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Footprint for test points?
You can see 3 (two black, one orange) on this board: http://ad7gd.net/flex/flex-build4.jpg Hm, looks like goldmine is sold out, though :( Digikey has something similar (if not identical): http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T073/P2061.pdf There's some SMT test points too. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
