Re: gEDA-user: gerbv export to png
Julian thepurl...@gmail.com writes: Stephan, Yes, you can do it, however you can't use the project file for the process. Here's how: gerbv --export=png --dpi=600 --foreground=#ffff --foreground=#00ff0088 file1.gbx file2.gbx ...and so on Hope this helps. Cheers-- Absolutely, thanks! Now I need to write a script to transform the project file into a Makefile rule :-) -- Stephan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Toporouter update?
Hi- The last update on the toporouter looks like it was last June. Any news since then, or is it waiting for me to jump in to the code? ;) It looks fantastic. FWIW - I think a better metric of router performance (instead of total track length as used on the web page http://www.wand.net.nz/~amb33/toporouter/detour.html), would be a statistical aggregation of the ratio of the individual nets track length compared to the minimal point-to-point length (think rat's nest). Regards, Ethan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Schematic import (was why separate xgsch2pcb?)
On Feb 21, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:14:42 -0500 (EST) Stuart Brorson s...@cloud9.net wrote: There is a bug in the git version of PCB. If you put your newlib footprints in a directory, the library import stuff can't find them. The library import stuff looks in *subdirectories* of your footprint directory. This has to do with the way the importer works, as well asl how the library data inside PCB is structured. If you want to use the git stuff, put your footprints in a directory *under* ~/GEDA/www/user/vanessa_ezekowitz/footprints/ (example: ~/GEDA/www/user/vanessa_ezekowitz/footprints/myfootprints). I've been fiddling with creating a fix for this, but it's slow going since I need to learn about how PCB itself works. I ran into this a while back too, which is why I use a symlink. In actuality, PCB is configured to look in /home/vanessa/ Footprints. Contained within that directory is a symlink named Custom, which points to /home/vanessa/GEDA/www/user/ vanessa_ezekowitz/footprints , where the actual footprint files reside. Without it, I'd see vanessa_ezekowitz as my top level, and symbols, footprints, attic and CVS under that. This way, PCB just shows Footprints - Custom and I don't have to disturb the layout of my repository. :-) At any rate, PCB's Library dialog can find and use the files just fine, it's just the Import function that doesn't. Two thoughts. what is the exact config line you used? did you put in ~/Footprints or /home/vanessa/Footprints, I am wondering if the importer is not decoding the ~ Out of curiosity, if you were to temporarily make a copy of the contents of /home/vanessa/GEDA/www/user/vanessa_ezekowitz/footprints to ~/GEDA/www/user/vanessa_ezekowitz/footprints/custom does it work. Is the importer not following soft links? Steve ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?
Ethan Swint wrote: The last update on the toporouter looks like it was last June. Any news since then, or is it waiting for me to jump in to the code? ;) It looks fantastic. I don't get a lot of time atm.. please jump in =) FWIW - I think a better metric of router performance (instead of total track length as used on the web page http://www.wand.net.nz/~amb33/toporouter/detour.html), would be a statistical aggregation of the ratio of the individual nets track length compared to the minimal point-to-point length (think rat's nest). Hmm.. yup probably =) -Anthony ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Message and Library windows
Is there a way to disable the Message Log and Library windows by default, in PCB? I'm finding I keep these either hidden or closed a lot more than I keep them open. -- There are some things in life worth obsessing over. Most things aren't, and when you learn that, life improves. http://starbase.globalpc.net/~ezekowitz Vanessa Ezekowitz vanessaezekow...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Schematic import (was why separate xgsch2pcb?)
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:31 -0600, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, if you were to temporarily make a copy of the contents [...] Changing out the symlink for a real directory full of files didn't help, but I believe I have found the problem: Normally when you reference a stock footprint in a schematic, you do so by name, without any suffixes, e.g. you specify RCY100 instead of RCY100.fp. This is how I reference my custom footprints as well, and it's enough to satisfy gsch2pcb. I tried changing all references to my custom footprints in the schematic to include .fp, and sure enough, it works. The Import function finds them just fine this way. This of course represents a significant change in behavior, so I'd have to suggest that the suffix be made optional in the Import function. Indeed.. sounds like a bug in the import function. It shouldn't need the .fp at all. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Anthony Blake [1]tony...@gmail.com wrote: Ethan Swint wrote: The last update on the toporouter looks like it was last June. Any news since then, or is it waiting for me to jump in to the code? ;) It looks fantastic. I don't get a lot of time atm.. please jump in =) Does anyone know how to turn on the detour optimization or is it on by default? Thanks- Larry References 1. mailto:tony...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Message and Library windows
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 17:03 -0600, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: Is there a way to disable the Message Log and Library windows by default, in PCB? I'm finding I keep these either hidden or closed a lot more than I keep them open. I'm tempted to pay someone a bounty to kill those with fire ;) (or certainly fix the message window's focus-stealing, attention grabbing - behaviour. The same is true of the netlist window when you press F on a net.) I know it isn't what you asked, but if it is any small consolation, gschem's log window can be persuaded not to appear with this rhune in a gschemrc. (I have it in ~/.gEDA/gschemrc) (log-window later) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Larry Battraw lbatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Anthony Blake [1]tony...@gmail.com wrote: Ethan Swint wrote: The last update on the toporouter looks like it was last June. Any news since then, or is it waiting for me to jump in to the code? ;) It looks fantastic. I don't get a lot of time atm.. please jump in =) Does anyone know how to turn on the detour optimization or is it on by default? It is on by default. At some point, for the purposes of comparison with earlier algorithm, there was a switch for it, but there isn't anymore. Regards, -- Anthony Blake ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Message and Library windows
(or certainly fix the message window's focus-stealing, attention grabbing - behaviour. The same is true of the netlist window when you press F on a net.) That one burns me often :D ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
Hi, Is there any automated Eagle to gEDA conversion path? (He says hopefully, but knowing it's highly unlikely.) -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
On Monday 22 February 2010, Dave N6NZ wrote: Is there any automated Eagle to gEDA conversion path? (He says hopefully, but knowing it's highly unlikely.) No .. but since you mention it, it is time to ask again for help in making something that will do this. I proposed a translator system, using an intermediate language, to translate both ways between schematic, layout, and simulation. It needs to happen. I don't have time to do it completely, but will guide if someone steps up to do some coding. Kicad needs it too. It can be a joint effort, which will strengthen both geda and kicad. There is a long list of translations that are needed. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
Diptrace has a pair of ulp scripts to convert eagle project to ascii schematic and pcb. after some creative editing to make output format match geda, it should be fairly feature compelte On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: On Monday 22 February 2010, Dave N6NZ wrote: Is there any automated Eagle to gEDA conversion path? (He says hopefully, but knowing it's highly unlikely.) No .. but since you mention it, it is time to ask again for help in making something that will do this. I proposed a translator system, using an intermediate language, to translate both ways between schematic, layout, and simulation. It needs to happen. I don't have time to do it completely, but will guide if someone steps up to do some coding. Kicad needs it too. It can be a joint effort, which will strengthen both geda and kicad. There is a long list of translations that are needed. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:08 PM, timecop wrote: Diptrace has a pair of ulp scripts to convert eagle project to ascii schematic and pcb. OK, although I don't know what either Diptrace or ulp are. Sounds like a good place to start, though. I'm wondering how the library issue would be handled. Presumably, it reads the Eagle library and spits out symbol information as part of the ascii? after some creative editing to make output format match geda, it should be fairly feature compelte On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: snip I proposed a translator system, using an intermediate language, to translate both ways between schematic, layout, and simulation. It needs to happen. Really? Is there a use for gEDA-Eagle? I never would have cared about Eagle, except that the RepRap PCB's are done with Eagle. Now, why someone would do open source hardware with closed source tools is a mystery to me... but anyway so far in a total of 30 minutes of Eagle usage I've discovered: 1) the crippleware version only allows a single schematic sheet, leading people to create unreadable glop, and 2) printing is truly bizarre. I can't imagine someone going from gEDA to the free/crippled version of Eagle. And as to going to the commercial version, OK I can see some customer requiring that, but isn't that Eagle's problem? After all, nobody is hiding gEDA's file formats. -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Message and Library windows
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:02:43 -0800 Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: I'm tempted to pay someone a bounty to kill those with fire ;) (or certainly fix the message window's focus-stealing, attention grabbing - behaviour. The same is true of the netlist window when you press F on a net.) Patch attached. Here's the commit message (comments welcome): /me falls over *wibble* Thanks for the patch. It's a nice change from the old behavior. ;-) -- There are some things in life worth obsessing over. Most things aren't, and when you learn that, life improves. http://starbase.globalpc.net/~ezekowitz Vanessa Ezekowitz vanessaezekow...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
ulp is eagle script file. i assumed if you wanted to convert something, you'd have eagle running. im pretty sure ulp can access to library data as well, so something to output ascii can be easily written. diptrace is payware pcbcad, but freely downloadable version also includes these 2 conversion scripts. (Eagle_to_DipTrace_SCH.ulp and Eagle_to_DipTrace_PCB.ulp). since eagle .sch/.pcb format isnt documented and no external libs available to read it (as far as i know), the only way to export anything is write/use a script run inside eagle. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:08 PM, timecop wrote: Diptrace has a pair of ulp scripts to convert eagle project to ascii schematic and pcb. OK, although I don't know what either Diptrace or ulp are. Sounds like a good place to start, though. I'm wondering how the library issue would be handled. Presumably, it reads the Eagle library and spits out symbol information as part of the ascii? after some creative editing to make output format match geda, it should be fairly feature compelte On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: snip I proposed a translator system, using an intermediate language, to translate both ways between schematic, layout, and simulation. It needs to happen. Really? Is there a use for gEDA-Eagle? I never would have cared about Eagle, except that the RepRap PCB's are done with Eagle. Now, why someone would do open source hardware with closed source tools is a mystery to me... but anyway so far in a total of 30 minutes of Eagle usage I've discovered: 1) the crippleware version only allows a single schematic sheet, leading people to create unreadable glop, and 2) printing is truly bizarre. I can't imagine someone going from gEDA to the free/crippled version of Eagle. And as to going to the commercial version, OK I can see some customer requiring that, but isn't that Eagle's problem? After all, nobody is hiding gEDA's file formats. -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??
On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:29 PM, timecop wrote: ulp is eagle script file. Ahhh i assumed if you wanted to convert something, you'd have eagle running. Just barely, and just recently. And not for much total time yet. im pretty sure ulp can access to library data as well, so something to output ascii can be easily written. Well, diptrace must have the same problem. You either need to map from one library to the other, or export enough of the library that you can import into the new library the required symbols. diptrace is payware pcbcad, but freely downloadable version also includes these 2 conversion scripts. (Eagle_to_DipTrace_SCH.ulp and Eagle_to_DipTrace_PCB.ulp). A^2 since eagle .sch/.pcb format isnt documented and no external libs available to read it (as far as i know), the only way to export anything is write/use a script run inside eagle. That makes a lot of sense, even when the file format *is* well documented. The question is then, how much munging does it take to transmute diptrace ascii exchange format into gEDA stuff. -dave On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:08 PM, timecop wrote: Diptrace has a pair of ulp scripts to convert eagle project to ascii schematic and pcb. OK, although I don't know what either Diptrace or ulp are. Sounds like a good place to start, though. I'm wondering how the library issue would be handled. Presumably, it reads the Eagle library and spits out symbol information as part of the ascii? after some creative editing to make output format match geda, it should be fairly feature compelte On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: snip I proposed a translator system, using an intermediate language, to translate both ways between schematic, layout, and simulation. It needs to happen. Really? Is there a use for gEDA-Eagle? I never would have cared about Eagle, except that the RepRap PCB's are done with Eagle. Now, why someone would do open source hardware with closed source tools is a mystery to me... but anyway so far in a total of 30 minutes of Eagle usage I've discovered: 1) the crippleware version only allows a single schematic sheet, leading people to create unreadable glop, and 2) printing is truly bizarre. I can't imagine someone going from gEDA to the free/crippled version of Eagle. And as to going to the commercial version, OK I can see some customer requiring that, but isn't that Eagle's problem? After all, nobody is hiding gEDA's file formats. -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
