Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
To fix it in a uniform way I think we need to standardise what we use as a place holder for an attribute. Sould we explicitly put unknown or ?? Unfortunitly gschem won't let you put a null string. Hi Clif, Since at the moment gnetlist internally uses the string unknown to indicate a missing attribute, so that would be the logical choice to use instead of ? at this time. In the longer term, I would actually quite like it to be legal to have attributes with zero-length values. However, that would obviously be a more complicated patch. I think that the spice-sdb backend should continue to choke on blah=? attributes, for now. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre - Original message - Hi Gang, This is about a patch I submitted a while back because myself and others didn't understand the souce of the ?. Patrick found it though. They are from the spice A.. blocks. The value of some of the unpromoted attributes are ?. Apparently they are place holders to remind someone to add real values in the same way R? is a place holder for a refdes. The other choice is to not list attributes without useable values, but then you don't have the reminder of which ones to fill in. This gets used like a short version of the add attribute drop down menu, however you have to click on show inherited attributes to see them. Though most people don't do that and then wonder where the errors come from. ;-) If neither of those choices sound good then I have an off the wall one. We could allow null value attributes which are always promoted so you would see them, and this would be a poor mans form in which you have the option of providing their values, or even deleting them. Get-package-attribute would return unknown for attributes which exist but have null values. Any thoughts? Clif ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING
Before this deteriorates into a my software is better than your software contest, can I suggest that we try to keep things on-topic? An excellent suggestion. Peter :-( -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: 2mm 2 x 4 surface mount header
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM, George M. Gallant, Jr. ggallant...@verizon.net wrote: I am looking for the footprint for a 2 x 4 2mm surface mount header. I have some for one of the Molex series at http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html (* jcl *) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: 2mm 2 x 4 surface mount header
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 22:42 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: I am looking for the footprint for a 2 x 4 2mm surface mount header. Geoge Maybe http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/footprints-gif/CON_HDR-200P-gif.html Or custom one in few minutes with http://www.ssalewski.de/SFG.html.en ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
Hi Peter, Ok so we toss current patch in 3114991. Should I make a new one that replaces all the ? in symbols / blocks with unknown? If spice-sdb should choke on any remaining ? it runs across, then I guess my second patch (3117075) is good to go. It seems that another example of attribute placeholders is the footprint=none convention. The zero-length values feature might allow us to clean up other special cases as well. Ciao, Clif Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:33:39 + From: Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Subject: Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - Clif wrote: To fix it in a uniform way I think we need to standardise what we use as a place holder for an attribute. Sould we explicitly put unknown? or ?? Unfortunitly gschem won't let you put a null string. Hi Clif, Since at the moment gnetlist internally uses the string unknown to indicate a missing attribute, so that would be the logical choice to use instead of ? at this time. In the longer term, I would actually quite like it to be legal to have attributes with zero-length values. However, that would obviously be a more complicated patch. I think that the spice-sdb backend should continue to choke on blah=? attributes, for now. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
Hi, I have looked through the gEDA mail archives, searched the web, RTFM, looked through FAQs and experimented all in an attempt to sort through my challenges with pcb. ... I have been using gEDA and pcb to complete a board layout. This is my second significant layout with the first completing successfully. I recently moved to pcb version 1.99z after experiencing instability problems with pcb 20091103. My .pcb file from 20091103 had 76 rats left to clean-up when I made the change. pcb 1.99z was able to read the pcb file but it reports 135 rats remaining. When I look at some of the additional rats, it is clear that for some reason, these extra rats will result in shorting together a number of nets. After computing the new rats list (key o) and looking at warnings (key w), there are now numerous nets shorted together and the number of rats has increased again to 197. I thought that I had something very basic wrong but my experimentation and searching has not uncovered others who have seen this problem. I can take one my the schematic files (rather than the whole set), use gsch2pcb to create a new pcb file and then use pcb with a much smaller set of components. The latest version of pcb exhibits this random, shorting rats behaviour whereas the 20091103 version does not. In this test, I go through the same procedure (start with the output from gsch2pcb, start pcb, load the netlist, disperse all elements and then optimize rats nest) but 1.99z continues to generate extra, bogus rats. Has anyone else seen this problem? More importantly, any idea what I am doing incorrectly? Thanks in advance. Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
Peter Laurich peter.laur...@akamina.com writes: Has anyone else seen this problem? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3137324group_id=73743atid=538811 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
On Thursday 16 December 2010 20:43:23 c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: Ok so we toss current patch in 3114991. Done. Should I make a new one that replaces all the ? in symbols / blocks with unknown? That sounds like a good idea, actually. If spice-sdb should choke on any remaining ? it runs across, then I guess my second patch (3117075) is good to go. Did you see my e-mail from last Thursday? I've forwarded it in this e-mail in case you missed it. There are a couple of things I wouldn't mind changed, if possible. It seems that another example of attribute placeholders is the footprint=none convention. The zero-length values feature might allow us to clean up other special cases as well. Possibly, yes. Thanks for your work on this. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ---BeginMessage--- Hi Clif, Firstly, patch 3114991 (get-package-attribute sometimes returns ?). Two important things: a) If there is not actually a text object attached to a part with the value file=? attribute somewhere, we have a problem. gnetlist/libgeda really shouldn't be manufacturing attributes with the value ?. A proper fix really needs to get to the bottom of why this is happening. b) The name behaviour of that C function will be completely changing in the next few days, so your patch won't apply (see patch 3071482 -- I am currently working with the author to finalise this). I can't accept this patch in its current form, sorry. If you don't have time to track down where the ? values are coming from, please file a bug and I'll try and figure it out at some point. Secondly, patch 3117075 (spice-sdb -- Several fixes / Cleanups). a) Please split whitespace changes into a separate patch which *only* changes whitespace. I personally avoid touching whitespace if possible. ;-) Actually, this patch would have been better split into a series of patches, each of which does one particular clean-up... b) Syntax for `define' when defining functions. Here's something I wrote yesterday: I would greatly appreciate it if the implicit lambda form of `define' was used in all new code, i.e.: (define (allsame? x) (null? (delete (car x) (cdr x This is preferred in new Scheme code because it eliminates a set of braces and an additional keyword, while being unambiguous. Additionally, this syntax means that the second s-expression in the definition matches the prototype of the function, which aids in documentation. Finally, the implicit `define' form supports docstrings, which although we don't currently use, we may well use in the future. c) `spice-sdb:filter-map'. I'm not sure I understand why you can't just use `filter-map'...? d) Changes to prototype of `spice-sdb:write-net-names-on-component' seem sensible. e) `get-net-name' modifies its argument. Looking at the code, it's not clear to me why this is actually necessary -- could you explain, please? :-) Thanks! Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ---End Message--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:37 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: Peter Laurich peter.laur...@akamina.com writes: Has anyone else seen this problem? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3137324group_id=73743atid=538811 Hmm, I can't reproduce that with git HEAD.. any ideas? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:09 -0500, Peter Laurich wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem? More importantly, any idea what I am doing incorrectly? No, and probably nothing... Any chance you could try a git checkout and test building PCB from that? git checkout git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 00:42 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:09 -0500, Peter Laurich wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem? More importantly, any idea what I am doing incorrectly? No, and probably nothing... Any chance you could try a git checkout and test building PCB from that? Ignore that request.. it was _ME_ who was not up to date with git HEAD. The bug was introduced in a recent commit: dbf835c02cda1d16157a83f8c1b9b1da2a05400a -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Should I make a new one that replaces all the ? in symbols / blocks with unknown? That sounds like a good idea, actually. I'm not happy with this. The ? is in those symbols for a reason. I do not believe the core code should be trying to outsmart the symbol and back-end designer (Stuart in this case). That said, spice-sdb needs some work on reasonable behavior in case of error John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. [1]http://www.noqsi.com/ [2]...@noqsi.com References 1. http://www.noqsi.com/ 2. mailto:j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 01:10 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 00:42 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:09 -0500, Peter Laurich wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem? More importantly, any idea what I am doing incorrectly? No, and probably nothing... Any chance you could try a git checkout and test building PCB from that? Ignore that request.. it was _ME_ who was not up to date with git HEAD. The bug was introduced in a recent commit: dbf835c02cda1d16157a83f8c1b9b1da2a05400a DJ and I just debugged this one over IRC, and came up with a fix. DJ just pushed it, so you should be able to pick it up from git HEAD. Thanks for the report! Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
I am attempting to model several of the BOURNS 4100R Series resistor packs for use in gaf and I have some questions about some of the examples referenced in the geda:master_attributes_list. One of the resistor packs has a set of isolated resistors in a package where, for example, a two resistor package would have pins 1 and 4 connected by a resistor and pins 2 and 3 would be connected by a resistor. I am guessing that I would use numslots=2 and would have slotdef=1:1,4 and slotdef=2:2,3. I would also expect to see two resistor drawings in the .sym file for use in gschem. In the example using the 7400 NAND package I see that four slots are defined in the .sym file but only the symbol for the first gate is included. Wouldn't you normally include symbols for each slot or does gschem somehow know to generate the same symbol for each slot? Only one gate shows up for me when I select it in gschem. I did look at the example resistor pack rpack-1.sym but it doesn't use the slotdef attribute at all. Does anybody know why? Thanks! Michael ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
Hi John, Did you see my initial post on this? Maybe I got it wrong but I tried to understand the intent as best I could and present my thougths: Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:30:33 -0800 (PST) From: c...@eugeneweb.com Subject: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991 To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Hi Gang, This is about a patch I submitted a while back because myself and others didn't understand the souce of the ?. Patrick found it though. They are from the spice A.. blocks. The value of some of the unpromoted attributes are ?. Apparently they are place holders to remind someone to add real values in the same way R? is a place holder for a refdes. To fix it in a uniform way I think we need to standardise what we use as a place holder for an attribute. Sould we explicitly put unknown or ?? Unfortunitly gschem won't let you put a null string. The other choice is to not list attributes without useable values, but then you don't have the reminder of which ones to fill in. This gets used like a short version of the add attribute drop down menu, however you have to click on show inherited attributes to see them. Though most people don't do that and then wonder where the errors come from. ;-) If neither of those choices sound good then I have an off the wall one. We could allow null value attributes which are always promoted so you would see them, and this would be a poor mans form in which you have the option of providing their values, or even deleting them. Get-package-attribute would return unknown for attributes which exist but have null values. Any thoughts? Clif The only pice of code that currently deals with the ? is this one: ;; sometimes get-package-attribute returns ? instead of unknown. WTF? This should fix that . . . (if (string-ci=? model-file ?) (set! model-file unknown)) -- We're just trying to move toword a more uniform way of handling it. Clif Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:58:20 -0700 From: John Doty j...@noqsi.com Subject: Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991 On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Should I make a new one that replaces all the ? in symbols / blocks with unknown? That sounds like a good idea, actually. I'm not happy with this. The ? is in those symbols for a reason. I do not believe the core code should be trying to outsmart the symbol and back-end designer (Stuart in this case). That said, spice-sdb needs some work on reasonable behavior in case of error John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
One symbol with a slotdef can be renumbered in gschem to create the other symbols for the rest of the gates/resistors/whatever in the package. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:44 PM, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: Hi John, Did you see my initial post on this? Yes. The only pice of code that currently deals with the ? is this one: ;; sometimes get-package-attribute returns ? instead of unknown. WTF? This should fix that . . . (if (string-ci=? model-file ?) (set! model-file unknown)) -- We're just trying to move toword a more uniform way of handling it. But that's not uniform. In this case, attribute value is explicitly set to ? in the symbol. Now, when an attribute value is *explicitly* set by the schematic or symbol designer, there shouldn't be anything in the common code that changes it. Making special cases like this is a move *away* from uniform handling of attributes. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
Select one of them and do Edit-Slot. Change the slot and the pin numbers will change too. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Young, Michael I. (DFRC-SR) wrote: I would also expect to see two resistor drawings in the .sym file for use in gschem. In the slot mechanism, the graphics are identical for each slot. In the example using the 7400 NAND package I see that four slots are defined in the .sym file but only the symbol for the first gate is included. Wouldn't you normally include symbols for each slot or does gschem somehow know to generate the same symbol for each slot? You use the same symbol for each gate in the package. You set refds for each gate in the package to the same value, e.g. U42 or some such. You use Edit-Slot to change the slot of the gates so you have one gate each in slots 1,2,3,4. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
Ahh!! Got it! Thank you! I didn't see that little titbit in the documentation I was reading. I guess I now use the same refdes (e.g., refdes=U1) on each one to tell gschem I am referring to the same package and refdes=U2 for a second package, etc. Can I also just add the schematic drawings for the other devices into the .sym file so they all come up at once? For example, if I have a package with ten resistors in it can I just set up the .sym file so that they all appear so I don't have to edit the slot number on ten different resistor symbols? Thanks! On 12/16/10 7:31 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Select one of them and do Edit-Slot. Change the slot and the pin numbers will change too. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
Hi Peter and DJ, Sorry for being off-line for a while. Thanks very much for sorting this one out. I was going to fire up the debugger tomorrow to see if I could figure it out. Now I can go back to my layout task. Cheers, Peter On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 02:25 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 01:10 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 00:42 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:09 -0500, Peter Laurich wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem? More importantly, any idea what I am doing incorrectly? No, and probably nothing... Any chance you could try a git checkout and test building PCB from that? Ignore that request.. it was _ME_ who was not up to date with git HEAD. The bug was introduced in a recent commit: dbf835c02cda1d16157a83f8c1b9b1da2a05400a DJ and I just debugged this one over IRC, and came up with a fix. DJ just pushed it, so you should be able to pick it up from git HEAD. Thanks for the report! Best wishes, ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Question about using slots in .sym files
Young, Michael I. (DFRC-SR) michael.i.yo...@nasa.gov writes: I guess I now use the same refdes (e.g., refdes=U1) on each one to tell gschem I am referring to the same package and refdes=U2 for a second package, etc. Yes. Symbols with the same refdes are the same component. Can I also just add the schematic drawings for the other devices into the .sym file so they all come up at once? You won't be able to edit them separately if you do; you'd have ONE symbol that just LOOKS like four, and you wouldn't be able to change the slots indepednently. For example, if I have a package with ten resistors in it can I just set up the .sym file so that they all appear so I don't have to edit the slot number on ten different resistor symbols? Sure, but that would be ONE symbol that happens to reflect all ten resistors, not ten slotted symbols that happen to be in one file. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
I'm not sure we're on the same page here. That pice of legacy code is what we want to remove. We don't want any code to reinterpret attributes. For the short term we would like to change a few probramatic symbols so we don't have to have special cases in the code. Clif Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:58:26 -0700 From: John Doty j...@noqsi.com Subject: Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991 On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:44 PM, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: Hi John, Did you see my initial post on this? Yes. The only pice of code that currently deals with the ? is this one: ;; sometimes get-package-attribute returns ? instead of unknown. WTF? This should fix that . . . (if (string-ci=? model-file ?) (set! model-file unknown)) -- We're just trying to move toword a more uniform way of handling it. But that's not uniform. In this case, attribute value is explicitly set to ? in the symbol. Now, when an attribute value is *$ John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:29 PM, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: I'm not sure we're on the same page here. That pice of legacy code is what we want to remove. We don't want any code to reinterpret attributes. For the short term we would like to change a few probramatic symbols so we don't have to have special cases in the code. But the ? is there to tell you, when looking at the symbol in gschem, that you *need* to edit the attribute (I use those symbols a lot). I'm puzzled here, because I thought Stuart was the author of both spice-sdb and the symbols in question, so the WTF? is strange. In any case, it seems to me that the user should get an error message (from spice-sdb) in this case, as an explicit ? here means that the user has neither set the attribute to something useful nor deleted it as irrelevant. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:54:12 -0800 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:40:50 + Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:37 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: Peter Laurich peter.laur...@akamina.com writes: Has anyone else seen this problem? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3137324group_id=73743atid=538811 Hmm, I can't reproduce that with git HEAD.. any ideas? From the bug page: “Fixed in git commit 05bd7804fa66b65159959c25d126ff939146a1eb” Perhaps that is the reason? OK, ignore that, I see later in the thread that you are all over the problem along with DJ. :-) Regards, Colin ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user