Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time

[Jonathan Helis]

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> What is your primary desktop OS?
> 1.  At home 
> 2.  At work


At Home:
Main PC(1.583GHZ AMD Sempron): Dual boot Windows XP Home/Linux Mint 4.0
Dell Laptop(2.6GHZ): Windows XP Pro
Old 400mhz AMD clunker(currently down due to dead power supply): Xubuntu

At Work:
Windows 2000

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Shannon Roddy]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe we should have an online poll function on the website. :)

If our leader didn't spend all his time worrying with Winblows, maybe
we'd have one.  ;-)

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Re: [brlug-general] General Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33

[Petri Laihonen]

John Hebert wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
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> From: willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.
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> Now I know why you are so grumpy.
>
> On Friday 29 August 2008, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
> > Home: Vista 64
> > Work: XP
>
>
> Reading this list is like watching that movie "Groundhog's Day". ;)
That is A very good movie!!

Peri

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Re: [brlug-general] General Digest, Vol 62, Issue 33

[John Hebert]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.
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> Now I know why you are so grumpy.
>
> On Friday 29 August 2008, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
> > Home: Vista 64
> > Work: XP
>

Reading this list is like watching that movie "Groundhog's Day". ;)

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Adam Yates]

Work: Fedora, Centos, Ubuntu, OSX, (xp image under qemu)
Home: OSX, (xp image under parallels)

There are probably some other boxen that I don't touch on a daily basis 
at the office here that have a few more
flavors of *nix installed.

(on a side note, has anyone successfully import osx opendirectory schema 
into openldap in the enterprise?)

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Karthik Poobal wrote:
> I am seeing more and more OS X these days. I wonder if that has  
> anything to do with vista. Honestly, I have used Vista Business couple  
> of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I  
> turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
>
> So who's going to do the poll?
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>> It seems like OSX is well represented here actually.
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>> michael dolan wrote:
>> 
>>> Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
>>> Home: XP
>>> Cell: iPhone
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Dustin Puryear]

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-ray wrote:
> 
> I'm no expert either, but I tend to agree.  A voice call is MUCH more
> bandwidth and resource intensive than a txt message.  You probably use
> more bandwidth in the first second of a voice call than when sending a
> txt.  With lots of towers down, the remaining towers were inundated with
> voice calls and couldn't handle the load.  It was a lot easier to sneak
> through a low bandwidth txt message than setup and maintain a
> full-fledged voice channel.
> 
> That is just pure conjecture on my part though.  I could be totally
> wrong. :)
> 
> ray
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
> 
>> I do not know the tower operations in detail, but my gut feeling says no.
>> It is more like voice and data channels. For instance you get certain
>> amount of 64kb voice channels out of one T1 line. Those are
>> the ones getting congested. There could be similar amount of channels
>> for data, but data can be buffered/queued and normally
>> require less bandwidth, whereas voice can not (or very very little)
>> and uses relatively more bandwidth.
>>
>> Again, I'm not an expert in GPRS or other wireless protocols in
>> detail� so my gut feeling may be off a bit. Also, this
>> scenario keeps shifting towards heavier data usage and some day all
>> voice channels are just pure data. (I think they already are,
>> but will be a bit different format.)
>>
>> Petri
>>
>>
>> Karthik Poobal wrote:
>>
>>  Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess data
>> is easier to queue  :-)
>> Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when
>> majority learned that useful function in mobile world.
>>
>> I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to
>> US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were
>> complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also
>> expected that to happen..)
>>
>> In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores
>> provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I
>> have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case
>> being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless
>> account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate
>> days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told
>> them to do it, but no.
>>
>>
>> Petri
>>
>>
>> -ray wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of
>> those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I
>> reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out
>> during Katrina.
>>
>> Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is better
>> now than it was 3 years ago.
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Even via mobile if it comes down to that. I have multiple
>> phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
>> with my iPhuck.�� :-)
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

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I don't think so. That sounds.. expensive. From what I know, and that's
not much, it would be more an issue of resource allocation.

Once you leave the cell tower I think you are all digital (at least I
assume so since frequency is expensive and analog would be a waste),
just like how POTS is all digital once you hit the big telco switches.
However, to allocate a voice channel the cell system probably has to set
aside a set amount of resources, and those resources are probably much
higher than for txt, even if txt has a lower priority.

That's what I think at least.. :)

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Karthik Poobal wrote:
> Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?
> 
> 
> 
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> On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:
> 
>> Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess  
>> data is easier to queue  :-)
>> Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when  
>> majority learned that useful function in mobile world.
>>
>> I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to  
>> US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were  
>> complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also  
>> expected that to happen..)
>>
>> In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores  
>> provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I  
>> have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case  
>> being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless  
>> account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate  
>> days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told  
>> them to do it, but no.
>>
>>
>> Petri
>>
>>
>> -ray wrote:
>>>
>>> Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of  
>>> those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I  
>>> reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out  
>>> during Katrina.
>>>
>>> Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is  
>>> better now than it was 3 years ago.
>>>
>>> ray
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>>
 Even via mobile if it comes down to that.�� I have multiple  
 phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
 with my iPhuck.� :-)
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Dustin Puryear]

That last sentence almost makes me think of a haiku.

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
> Yes  I got that. 
> But also, I have no fixed location for the "workstations". They are as
> mobile as the "workhorse", I am.
> 
> Petri
> 
> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>> I didn't mean the servers would lose access. :) Anyway, not biggie.
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>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>   
>>> Actually my situation is a bit simpler..
>>> All my servers are in the remote location and if that location ever
>>> loses the connections, that would be big news in all IT
>>> publications. all work is done pretty much remotely from wherever
>>> there is connectivity using laptops. Laptop goes wherever I go.
>>> (ball and chain)
>>>
>>> Even via mobile if it comes down to that.   I have multiple phones
>>> with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark with my
>>> iPhuck.  :-)
>>>
>>> Petri
>>>
>>> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>>> 
 Me thinks you are only seeing a small part of DR. What if the server
 stay online but your company loses it's primary Internet connection for
 several weeks, all the workstations are lost, etc., etc. blah, blah. :)

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 Petri Laihonen wrote:
   
   
> I assume DR = Disaster Recovery.Right?
>
> I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
> ago..  
> I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)
>
> Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently
> After Katrina those were places to work... :-)
>
> Petri
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> -ray wrote:
> 
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>> Who else is on page 143, section 12, of executing your company's DR plan?
>>
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[-ray]

I'm no expert either, but I tend to agree.  A voice call is MUCH more 
bandwidth and resource intensive than a txt message.  You probably use 
more bandwidth in the first second of a voice call than when sending a 
txt.  With lots of towers down, the remaining towers were inundated with 
voice calls and couldn't handle the load.  It was a lot easier to sneak 
through a low bandwidth txt message than setup and maintain a full-fledged 
voice channel.


That is just pure conjecture on my part though.  I could be totally wrong. :)

ray


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:


I do not know the tower operations in detail, but my gut feeling says no.
It is more like voice and data channels. For instance you get certain amount of 
64kb voice channels out of one T1 line. Those are
the ones getting congested. There could be similar amount of channels for data, 
but data can be buffered/queued and normally
require less bandwidth, whereas voice can not (or very very little) and uses 
relatively more bandwidth.

Again, I'm not an expert in GPRS or other wireless protocols in detail� so 
my gut feeling may be off a bit. Also, this
scenario keeps shifting towards heavier data usage and some day all voice 
channels are just pure data. (I think they already are,
but will be a bit different format.)

Petri


Karthik Poobal wrote:

 Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?



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On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:



 Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess 
data is easier to queue  :-)
Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when 
majority learned that useful function in mobile world.


I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to 
US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were 
complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also 
expected that to happen..)


In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores 
provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I 
have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case 
being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless 
account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate 
days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told 
them to do it, but no.



Petri


-ray wrote:


 Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of 
those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I 
reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out 
during Katrina.


Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is 
better now than it was 3 years ago.


ray


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:



 Even via mobile if it comes down to that. I have multiple 
phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark

with my iPhuck.�� :-)


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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Petri Laihonen]

To correct my terminology.
Instead of using channels, which refers to different frequencies, I was
supposed to use Voice vs. data packets.

Petri


Petri Laihonen wrote:

  
  I do not know the tower
operations in detail, but my gut feeling says no.
It is more like voice and data channels. For instance you get certain
amount of 64kb voice channels out of one T1 line.
Those are the ones getting congested. There could be similar amount of
channels for data, but data can be buffered/queued and normally require
less bandwidth, whereas voice can not (or very very little) and uses
relatively more bandwidth.
  
Again, I'm not an expert in GPRS or other wireless protocols in
detail  so my gut feeling may be off a bit. Also, this scenario
keeps shifting towards heavier data usage and some day all voice
channels are just pure data. (I think they already are, but will be a
bit different format.) 
  
Petri
  
  
Karthik Poobal wrote:
  
Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?



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On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:

  

  Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess  
data is easier to queue  :-)
Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when  
majority learned that useful function in mobile world.

I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to  
US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were  
complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also  
expected that to happen..)

In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores  
provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I  
have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case  
being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless  
account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate  
days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told  
them to do it, but no.


Petri


-ray wrote:

  
Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of  
those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I  
reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out  
during Katrina.

Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is  
better now than it was 3 years ago.

ray


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:

  

  Even via mobile if it comes down to that.�� I have multiple  
phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
with my iPhuck.� :-)


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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Petri Laihonen]

I do not know the tower
operations in detail, but my gut feeling says no.
It is more like voice and data channels. For instance you get certain
amount of 64kb voice channels out of one T1 line.
Those are the ones getting congested. There could be similar amount of
channels for data, but data can be buffered/queued and normally require
less bandwidth, whereas voice can not (or very very little) and uses
relatively more bandwidth.

Again, I'm not an expert in GPRS or other wireless protocols in
detail  so my gut feeling may be off a bit. Also, this scenario
keeps shifting towards heavier data usage and some day all voice
channels are just pure data. (I think they already are, but will be a
bit different format.) 

Petri


Karthik Poobal wrote:

  Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?



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On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:

  
  
Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess  
data is easier to queue  :-)
Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when  
majority learned that useful function in mobile world.

I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to  
US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were  
complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also  
expected that to happen..)

In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores  
provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I  
have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case  
being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless  
account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate  
days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told  
them to do it, but no.


Petri


-ray wrote:


  
Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of  
those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I  
reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out  
during Katrina.

Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is  
better now than it was 3 years ago.

ray


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:

  
  
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phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
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Don't they use different frequencies for data and voice?



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On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Petri Laihonen wrote:

> Cell towers crap out first with Voice, not with data I guess  
> data is easier to queue  :-)
> Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when  
> majority learned that useful function in mobile world.
>
> I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to  
> US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were  
> complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also  
> expected that to happen..)
>
> In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores  
> provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I  
> have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case  
> being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless  
> account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate  
> days before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told  
> them to do it, but no.
>
>
> Petri
>
>
> -ray wrote:
>>
>>
>> Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of  
>> those cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I  
>> reminded them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out  
>> during Katrina.
>>
>> Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is  
>> better now than it was 3 years ago.
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>
>>> Even via mobile if it comes down to that.�� I have multiple  
>>> phones with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
>>> with my iPhuck.� :-)
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Petri Laihonen]

Yes  I got that.  
But also, I have no fixed location for the "workstations". They are as
mobile as the "workhorse", I am.

Petri

Dustin Puryear wrote:

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
  
  
Actually my situation is a bit simpler..
All my servers are in the remote location and if that location ever
loses the connections, that would be big news in all IT
publications. all work is done pretty much remotely from wherever
there is connectivity using laptops. Laptop goes wherever I go.
(ball and chain)

Even via mobile if it comes down to that.   I have multiple phones
with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark with my
iPhuck.  :-)

Petri

Dustin Puryear wrote:


  Me thinks you are only seeing a small part of DR. What if the server
stay online but your company loses it's primary Internet connection for
several weeks, all the workstations are lost, etc., etc. blah, blah. :)

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
  
  
  
I assume DR = Disaster Recovery.Right?

I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
ago..  
I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)

Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently
After Katrina those were places to work... :-)

Petri

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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Petri Laihonen]

Cell towers crap out first
with Voice, not with data I guess data is easier to queue  :-)
Text messaging worked a lot longer than Voice And that's when
majority learned that useful function in mobile world.

I remember the first Mardi Gras after the cell phone boom arrived to
US. I had no problems communicating at the same time people were
complainin that their calls can not go through..   (I also expected
that to happen..)

In most cases it is the incompetence of the people in the stores
provisioning the phones/plans rather than technology which fails.  I
have been a victim of that about 80% of the time.  Latest case
being my iPhuck activation.   After they screwed up my wireless
account yet again, it took me 6 hours on the phone over 3 separate days
before it was activate. They could have done it the way I told them to
do it, but no.


Petri


-ray wrote:

Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of those
cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I reminded
them that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out during
Katrina.
  
  
Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is
better now than it was 3 years ago.
  
  
ray
  
  
  
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
  
  
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that.�� I have multiple phones with multiple operators, so I'm not
completely in the dark

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Several times this week, people have said "we should have some of those 
cell cards for our laptops in case we lose internet!".   I reminded them 
that the cell towers were the first thing to crap out during Katrina.


Hopefully AT&T learned some things, and the infrastructure is better now 
than it was 3 years ago.


ray


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:


Even via mobile if it comes down to that.�� I have multiple phones with 
multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark
with my iPhuck.� :-)


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I didn't mean the servers would lose access. :) Anyway, not biggie.

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
> Actually my situation is a bit simpler..
> All my servers are in the remote location and if that location ever
> loses the connections, that would be big news in all IT
> publications. all work is done pretty much remotely from wherever
> there is connectivity using laptops. Laptop goes wherever I go.
> (ball and chain)
> 
> Even via mobile if it comes down to that.   I have multiple phones
> with multiple operators, so I'm not completely in the dark with my
> iPhuck.  :-)
> 
> Petri
> 
> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>> Me thinks you are only seeing a small part of DR. What if the server
>> stay online but your company loses it's primary Internet connection for
>> several weeks, all the workstations are lost, etc., etc. blah, blah. :)
>>
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>>
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>   
>>> I assume DR = Disaster Recovery.Right?
>>>
>>> I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
>>> ago..  
>>> I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)
>>>
>>> Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently
>>> After Katrina those were places to work... :-)
>>>
>>> Petri
>>>
>>> -ray wrote:
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Terry Stockdale]

Work:  XP Pro
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Petri Laihonen]

Actually my situation is a
bit simpler..
All my servers are in the remote location and if that location ever
loses the connections, that would be big news in all IT
publications. all work is done pretty much remotely from wherever there is
connectivity using
laptops. Laptop goes wherever I go. (ball and chain)

Even via mobile if it
comes down to that.   I have multiple phones with multiple
operators, so I'm not completely in the dark with my iPhuck.  :-)

Petri

Dustin Puryear wrote:

  Me thinks you are only seeing a small part of DR. What if the server
stay online but your company loses it's primary Internet connection for
several weeks, all the workstations are lost, etc., etc. blah, blah. :)

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
  
  
I assume DR = Disaster Recovery.Right?

I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
ago..  
I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)

Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently
After Katrina those were places to work... :-)

Petri

-ray wrote:


  Who else is on page 143, section 12, of executing your company's DR plan?

ray
  
  

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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

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Me thinks you are only seeing a small part of DR. What if the server
stay online but your company loses it's primary Internet connection for
several weeks, all the workstations are lost, etc., etc. blah, blah. :)

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Petri Laihonen wrote:
> I assume DR = Disaster Recovery.Right?
> 
> I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
> ago..  
> I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)
> 
> Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently
> After Katrina those were places to work... :-)
> 
> Petri
> 
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I assume DR = Disaster
Recovery.    Right?

I have no manuals for that, but it has been taken care of several years
ago..   
I have my company servers nowhere near Louisiana.  :-)

Then I just hope all the Baton rouge net cafe's operate decently 
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Re: [brlug-general] New Poll

[Dustin Puryear]

I just need to buy some dog food just in case. That's my DR plan for the
weekend..

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Are you baiting me too?

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Who else is on page 143, section 12, of executing your company's DR plan?

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Ah!  So the baitee becomes the baiter!  You guys should take it off list. 
Seriously.

ray


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> On Friday 29 August 2008, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Now I know why you are so grumpy.

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[Ryan Burychka]

I've been using Vista for over a month.  Much to the dismay of my friends
and co-workers, I really like it.  UAC is off - I couldn't bear to have it
on.  I have no driver problems.  I have no trouble running any program I
need.  There are a lot of improvements over XP, but sometimes it takes a
while to find the same functionality that XP provides.  I believe most of
the kinks have been worked out and I feel that most of the current hate of
Vista is mental rather than actual.  To all those who still hate, I
recommend trying it for a few weeks.
Ryan

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> Personally, I like Vista. UAC is enabled but it only pops up now and
> then when a program tries to install, etc. Doesn't really bother me.
> Also, the look&feel is very nice.
>
> I can imagine it would be a dog on older hardware, but I have a
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> > of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I
> > turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
> >
> > So who's going to do the poll?
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Gadgets > Widgets.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You need to judge Vista by it's dissasters and lack of freedom not by it's
> day
> to day operation.  A few days of Vista use is like smoking a pack of
> cigarettes.  Smokers are oblivious to their own smell, the massive
> marketing
> forces deployed against them and the depth of misery they face down the
> road.
> Sooner or later every Windows user faces massive loss of data from file
> system corruption or malware.  The loss of SPDIF or the ability to record
> American Gladiators is trivial, but DRM taken to its logical limit is fatal
> to democracy and rule of law.
>
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> Also, don't forget the pretty thingy that rotates all the windows.
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>> willhill wrote:
>>> You need to judge Vista by it's dissasters and lack of freedom not  
>>> by it's day
>>> to day operation.  A few days of Vista use is like smoking a pack of
>>> cigarettes.  Smokers are oblivious to their own smell, the massive  
>>> marketing
>>> forces deployed against them and the depth of misery they face down  
>>> the road.
>>> Sooner or later every Windows user faces massive loss of data from  
>>> file
>>> system corruption or malware.  The loss of SPDIF or the ability to  
>>> record
>>> American Gladiators is trivial, but DRM taken to its logical limit  
>>> is fatal
>>> to democracy and rule of law.
>>>
>>> On Friday 29 August 2008, Karthik Poobal wrote:
 I have used Vista Business couple
 of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I
 turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Jonathan Kulp]

1. Ubuntu 8.04 on laptop (actually I use the laptop at work more than my 
mac in #2)
1a. wife has Eee PC running Xandros
2. OSX (I'm a music professor at UL--all faculty desktops are OSX in 
College of Arts)

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Also, don't forget the pretty thingy that rotates all the windows.


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On Aug 29, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

> I like the pretty pictures that come with Vista.
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>
> willhill wrote:
>> You need to judge Vista by it's dissasters and lack of freedom not  
>> by it's day
>> to day operation.  A few days of Vista use is like smoking a pack of
>> cigarettes.  Smokers are oblivious to their own smell, the massive  
>> marketing
>> forces deployed against them and the depth of misery they face down  
>> the road.
>> Sooner or later every Windows user faces massive loss of data from  
>> file
>> system corruption or malware.  The loss of SPDIF or the ability to  
>> record
>> American Gladiators is trivial, but DRM taken to its logical limit  
>> is fatal
>> to democracy and rule of law.
>>
>> On Friday 29 August 2008, Karthik Poobal wrote:
>>> I have used Vista Business couple
>>> of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I
>>> turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
>>
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[willhill]

You can not prevent fraud, you can only identify and punish those who commit 
it.  Every tool can be misused.  

On Friday 29 August 2008, Petri Laihonen wrote:
> Are there any free and fraud-proof ones?



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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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I like the pretty pictures that come with Vista.

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willhill wrote:
> You need to judge Vista by it's dissasters and lack of freedom not by it's 
> day 
> to day operation.  A few days of Vista use is like smoking a pack of 
> cigarettes.  Smokers are oblivious to their own smell, the massive marketing 
> forces deployed against them and the depth of misery they face down the road. 
>  
> Sooner or later every Windows user faces massive loss of data from file 
> system corruption or malware.  The loss of SPDIF or the ability to record 
> American Gladiators is trivial, but DRM taken to its logical limit is fatal 
> to democracy and rule of law. 
> 
> On Friday 29 August 2008, Karthik Poobal wrote:
>> I have used Vista Business couple  
>> of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I  
>> turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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You need to judge Vista by it's dissasters and lack of freedom not by it's day 
to day operation.  A few days of Vista use is like smoking a pack of 
cigarettes.  Smokers are oblivious to their own smell, the massive marketing 
forces deployed against them and the depth of misery they face down the road.  
Sooner or later every Windows user faces massive loss of data from file 
system corruption or malware.  The loss of SPDIF or the ability to record 
American Gladiators is trivial, but DRM taken to its logical limit is fatal 
to democracy and rule of law. 

On Friday 29 August 2008, Karthik Poobal wrote:
> I have used Vista Business couple  
> of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I  
> turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.



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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

Are there any free and
fraud-proof ones?

petri

Dustin Puryear wrote:

  Maybe we should have an online poll function on the website. :)

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michael dolan wrote:
  
  
Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
Home: XP
Cell: iPhone

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Dwayne Giardina]

Heh...

/ I cee wut U did there


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Or:
>
> Do you do polls?
>
> 1) Yes
> 2) No
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> > Then let's do a new poll:
> >
> > Do you think we should have an online poll function on the website?
> >
> > 1) Yes
> > 2) No
> >
> >
> > -ray
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe we should have an online poll function on the website. :)
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> >>
> >> michael dolan wrote:
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> >>> Home: XP
> >>> Cell: iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Dustin Puryear]

Or:

Do you do polls?

1) Yes
2) No

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-ray wrote:
> Then let's do a new poll:
> 
> Do you think we should have an online poll function on the website?
> 
> 1) Yes
> 2) No
> 
> 
> -ray
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> 
>> Maybe we should have an online poll function on the website. :)
>>
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>>
>>
>> michael dolan wrote:
>>> Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
>>> Home: XP
>>> Cell: iPhone
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> What is your primary desktop OS?
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[-ray]

Then let's do a new poll:

Do you think we should have an online poll function on the website?

1) Yes
2) No


-ray


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>
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>> Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
>> Home: XP
>> Cell: iPhone
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Dustin Puryear]

Come to think of it, my home computer uses Vista. My laptop runs XP.
Personally, I like Vista. UAC is enabled but it only pops up now and
then when a program tries to install, etc. Doesn't really bother me.
Also, the look&feel is very nice.

I can imagine it would be a dog on older hardware, but I have a
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Karthik Poobal wrote:
> I am seeing more and more OS X these days. I wonder if that has  
> anything to do with vista. Honestly, I have used Vista Business couple  
> of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I  
> turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.
> 
> So who's going to do the poll?
> 
> 
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> 
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
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>> It seems like OSX is well represented here actually.
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>> michael dolan wrote:
>>> Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
>>> Home: XP
>>> Cell: iPhone
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > wrote:
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>>>What is your primary desktop OS?
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Karthik Poobal]

I am seeing more and more OS X these days. I wonder if that has  
anything to do with vista. Honestly, I have used Vista Business couple  
of times and I am not sure if its as bad as people say it is. Once I  
turned UAC off it was more or less like XP.

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>> Home: XP
>> Cell: iPhone
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>What is your primary desktop OS?
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> Home: XP
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> 
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[michael dolan]

Work: OSX 10.5 (I'm in an odd industry)
Home: XP
Cell: iPhone

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Home: XP
Work: XP

servers at work : CentOS 5 / FreeBSD 7 / Windows2003/2008

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Dwayne Giardina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Work:  OS X Leopard, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, Solaris 10, RHEL 5 running VMWare
> Server with Ubuntu and Windoze Server 2003 VMs
>
> Home: XP (sigh) and my work MacBook Pro (sanity)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:44 AM, EdsLinuxBox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 28 August 2008 05:27:15 pm willhill wrote:
>> > What is your primary desktop OS?
>> > 1.  At home
>> > 2.  At work
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Dwayne Giardina]

Work:  OS X Leopard, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, Solaris 10, RHEL 5 running VMWare
Server with Ubuntu and Windoze Server 2003 VMs

Home: XP (sigh) and my work MacBook Pro (sanity)


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:44 AM, EdsLinuxBox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 28 August 2008 05:27:15 pm willhill wrote:
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> Xandros 4
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> Xandros 4
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

Cool.except runs on the wrong OS  thus useless to me.

So now that someone stole the "iPhoney", I need to start calling that 
thingy in my pocket as "iPhuck"

Petri


Dustin Puryear wrote:
> iPhoney is apparently a way to test out how an app will look on the iPhone:
>
> http://marketcircle.com/iphoney/
> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/21/iphoney-iphone-web-simulator/
>
> I don't get how Petri is using the term though. Maybe he is emulating an
> iPhone on his Palm Pilot? ;)
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear
> President and Sr. Consultant
> Puryear Information Technology, LLC
> 225-706-8414 x112
> http://www.puryear-it.com
>
> Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
>   http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/
>
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
>   
>> What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
>> first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
>> keep doing it, so it must be a different product
>>
>>
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> 
>>> To clarify...  
>>> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
>>> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>>>
>>> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
>>> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
>>> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
>>> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>>>
>>> petri
>>>
>>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
 released.
 NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.

 There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
 Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.

 Petri


 Tim Fournet wrote:
   
 
 
> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
> may want to chime in
>
>
>
> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>   
> 
>   
>   
>> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>>
>> --Nash
>>
>>
>> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
>> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>> their claims.
>>
>> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>> with every turn you make on the street?
>> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>> Nokia
>> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>> years.unfortunately I
>> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
>> sent
>> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>>
>> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, 
>> is
>> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>> sound when concentrating to it.
>>
>> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
>> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>> iPhone (Now
>> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>> never let
>> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer 
>> to
>> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>>
>> Petri
>>
>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>> push/pull
>> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use 
>> the
>> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>> watch as
>> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>> >
>> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>> > running Linux
>> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>> > email/surfing/SSHing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> >  
>> >> Yes...
>> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
>> sexy
>> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
>> for it.
>> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>> crash

Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

:-)

Same thingY!
I named it as such after I saw the first specs to it. It feels more 
right

I was quite enthusiastic for the SDK and to find out how to go around 
the limitations on the device, but that enthusiasm faded away very fast 
after I realized that most of the dev community have been left out of 
the loop or being milked out several hundreds to buy a mac. I was unable 
to install Leopard in the VM. Tiger works, but takes all the cpu cycles 
with it and SDK naturally would not work except with Leopard

Did anyone read about the application which would allow tethering with 
iPhoneY?
It was in the app store only for couple of days before ATT demanded it 
to be removed  way to go

err.  gotta go to work.

Petri

Tim Fournet wrote:
> What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
> first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
> keep doing it, so it must be a different product
>
>
>
> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>   
>> To clarify...  
>> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
>> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>>
>> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
>> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
>> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
>> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>>
>> petri
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
>>> released.
>>> NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.
>>>
>>> There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
>>> Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.
>>>
>>> Petri
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
 any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
 dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
 may want to chime in



 Nashid Hasan wrote:
   
 
   
 
> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>
> --Nash
>
>
> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
> their claims.
>
> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
> with every turn you make on the street?
> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
> Nokia
> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
> years.unfortunately I
> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
> sent
> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>
> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
> sound when concentrating to it.
>
> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
> iPhone (Now
> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
> never let
> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>
> Petri
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
> push/pull
> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
> watch as
> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
> >
> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
> > running Linux
> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
> > email/surfing/SSHing
> >
> >
> >
> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
> >  
> >> Yes...
> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
> sexy
> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
> for it.
> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
> crashes
> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail 

Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Tim Fournet]

Ah, thanks. That's pretty cool.

Dustin Puryear wrote:
> iPhoney is apparently a way to test out how an app will look on the iPhone:
>
> http://marketcircle.com/iphoney/
> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/21/iphoney-iphone-web-simulator/
>
> I don't get how Petri is using the term though. Maybe he is emulating an
> iPhone on his Palm Pilot? ;)
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear
> President and Sr. Consultant
> Puryear Information Technology, LLC
> 225-706-8414 x112
> http://www.puryear-it.com
>
> Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
>   http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/
>
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
>   
>> What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
>> first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
>> keep doing it, so it must be a different product
>>
>>
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> 
>>> To clarify...  
>>> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
>>> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>>>
>>> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
>>> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
>>> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
>>> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>>>
>>> petri
>>>
>>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
 released.
 NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.

 There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
 Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.

 Petri


 Tim Fournet wrote:
   
 
 
> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
> may want to chime in
>
>
>
> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>   
> 
>   
>   
>> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>>
>> --Nash
>>
>>
>> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
>> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>> their claims.
>>
>> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>> with every turn you make on the street?
>> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>> Nokia
>> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>> years.unfortunately I
>> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
>> sent
>> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>>
>> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, 
>> is
>> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>> sound when concentrating to it.
>>
>> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
>> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>> iPhone (Now
>> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>> never let
>> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer 
>> to
>> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>>
>> Petri
>>
>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>> push/pull
>> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use 
>> the
>> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>> watch as
>> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>> >
>> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>> > running Linux
>> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>> > email/surfing/SSHing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> >  
>> >> Yes...
>> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
>> sexy
>> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
>> for it.
>> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>> crashes
>> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
>> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix th

Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Dustin Puryear]

iPhoney is apparently a way to test out how an app will look on the iPhone:

http://marketcircle.com/iphoney/
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/21/iphoney-iphone-web-simulator/

I don't get how Petri is using the term though. Maybe he is emulating an
iPhone on his Palm Pilot? ;)

--
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President and Sr. Consultant
Puryear Information Technology, LLC
225-706-8414 x112
http://www.puryear-it.com

Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
  http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/


Tim Fournet wrote:
> What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
> first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
> keep doing it, so it must be a different product
> 
> 
> 
> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> To clarify...  
>> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
>> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>>
>> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
>> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
>> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
>> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>>
>> petri
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>   
>>> yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
>>> released.
>>> NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.
>>>
>>> There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
>>> Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.
>>>
>>> Petri
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
 Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
 any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
 dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
 may want to chime in



 Nashid Hasan wrote:
   
 
   
> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>
> --Nash
>
>
> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
> their claims.
>
> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
> with every turn you make on the street?
> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
> Nokia
> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
> years.unfortunately I
> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
> sent
> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>
> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
> sound when concentrating to it.
>
> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
> iPhone (Now
> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
> never let
> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>
> Petri
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
> push/pull
> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
> watch as
> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
> >
> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
> > running Linux
> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
> > email/surfing/SSHing
> >
> >
> >
> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
> >  
> >> Yes...
> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
> sexy
> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
> for it.
> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
> crashes
> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
> "Hackers"
> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
> connect
> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply 

Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Tim Fournet]

What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
keep doing it, so it must be a different product



Petri Laihonen wrote:
> To clarify...  
> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>
> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>
> petri
>
> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>   
>> yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
>> released.
>> NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.
>>
>> There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
>> Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.
>>
>> Petri
>>
>>
>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
>>> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
>>> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
>>> may want to chime in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/

 --Nash


 On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
 work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
 their claims.

 Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
 with every turn you make on the street?
 If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
 interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
 Nokia
 smartphones, you have been able to do that for
 years.unfortunately I
 don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
 sent
 this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.

 Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
 ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
 the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
 sound when concentrating to it.

 As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
 created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
 iPhone (Now
 that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
 never let
 third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
 know how to pwn their iPhoneys

 Petri

 Tim Fournet wrote:
 > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
 push/pull
 > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
 > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
 watch as
 > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
 > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
 >
 > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
 > running Linux
 > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
 > email/surfing/SSHing
 >
 >
 >
 > Petri Laihonen wrote:
 >  
 >> Yes...
 >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
 sexy
 >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
 for it.
 >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
 crashes
 >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
 >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
 "Hackers"
 >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
 >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
 connect
 >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
 >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
 established.)
 >>
 >> Petri
 >>
 >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
 >>  
 >>
 >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
 >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
 >>> Home: ubuntu
 >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
 >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
 >>>
 >>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>>
 >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>  
 >>>
 >>>  
  What is yo

Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

iTunes in Linux!!!
I doubt it would work too well.I have not bothered event to try.  
I tried via VMWare windows, and no dice. Phone was detected by windows, 
but not by iTunes.

Furthermore, ringtones to the phones have been provided without any 
desktop applications for a decade now. Actually 11 years to be exact. It 
feels extremely retarded to have to download something to your desktop, 
then connect your phone via cable and copy the files over.

Petri

Nashid Hasan wrote:
> If you use http://audiko.net/ to download iphone ringtones, first use 
> your desktop/laptop to download the files. Open the file with iTunes 
> then sync your iPhone. --Nash
>
>
> On 8/29/08 9:24 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nope... Not quite that easy..
> I just tested it and I got "Safari can't download this file"
>
> I know the correct file formats etc, but only way so far has been
> to use
> pwned phone via iTunes. Which is abomination.  And naturally not
> through linux. Last time I tried to get the grainy pictures out of the
> phone, iTunes only offered to delete them. Luckily I discovered
> that one
> can copy them directly from the phone in windows as long as iTunes is
> not running. When it is running, one can not copy pics..
>
> So far I have not found a method of downloading ringtones to the
> iPhoney
> from my desktop nor server. (I prefer server.) The "but" being that I
> must be able to do it without pwning the device. Ability to do this
> would be the most important improvement for the iPhone.
>
> Petri
>
> Nashid Hasan wrote:
> > All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
> >
> > --Nash
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > There is potential with that device, if it would workjust
> lots of
> > work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up
> to match
> > their claims.
> >
> > Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to
> apple like
> > with every turn you make on the street?
> > If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> > interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel.
> With
> > Nokia
> > smartphones, you have been able to do that for
> > years.unfortunately I
> > don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years
> and got
> > sent
> > this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
> >
> > Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> > ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if
> at all, is
> > the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of
> ringing
> > sound when concentrating to it.
> >
> > As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.
>  I have
> > created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
> > iPhone (Now
> > that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
> > never let
> > third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every
> customer to
> > know how to pwn their iPhoneys
> >
> > Petri
> >
> > Tim Fournet wrote:
> > > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
> > push/pull
> > > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I
> can use the
> > > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
> > watch as
> > > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds.
> There are
> > > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
> > >
> > > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin
> client
> > > running Linux
> > > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
> > > email/surfing/SSHing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Petri Laihonen wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes...
> > >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo
> paperweight with
> > sexy
> > >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have
> to pay
> > for it.
> > >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail
> application
> > crashes
> > >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their
> normal
> > >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
> > "Hackers"
> > >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...
> > >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
> > connect
> > >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine
> simply does not
> > >> work. (I

Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[EdsLinuxBox]

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[John Cole]

1. Windows XP and Kubuntu 8.04 (under VMWare)
2. Kubuntu 8.04

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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

To clarify...  
I did not use Amarok to make the tones.   Normal audio command line 
tools would do, or iTunes itself.

To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
that again. So you have to pay apple twice.

petri

Petri Laihonen wrote:
> yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
> released.
> NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.
>
> There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
> Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.
>
> Petri
>
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
>   
>> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
>> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
>> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
>> may want to chime in
>>
>>
>>
>> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>>>
>>> --Nash
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
>>> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>>> their claims.
>>>
>>> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>>> with every turn you make on the street?
>>> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>>> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>>> Nokia
>>> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>>> years.unfortunately I
>>> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
>>> sent
>>> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>>>
>>> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>>> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
>>> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>>> sound when concentrating to it.
>>>
>>> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
>>> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>>> iPhone (Now
>>> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>>> never let
>>> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
>>> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>>>
>>> Petri
>>>
>>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>>> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>>> push/pull
>>> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
>>> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>>> watch as
>>> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>>> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>>> >
>>> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>>> > running Linux
>>> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>>> > email/surfing/SSHing
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>> >  
>>> >> Yes...
>>> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
>>> sexy
>>> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
>>> for it.
>>> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>>> crashes
>>> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
>>> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
>>> "Hackers"
>>> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
>>> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
>>> connect
>>> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
>>> >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
>>> established.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Petri
>>> >>
>>> >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>> >>  
>>> >>
>>> >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
>>> >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>>> >>> Home: ubuntu
>>> >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>>> >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  
>>>  What is your primary desktop OS?
>>>  1.  At home
>>>  2.  At work
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Nashid Hasan]

If you use http://audiko.net/ to download iphone ringtones, first use your
desktop/laptop to download the files. Open the file with iTunes then sync
your iPhone. --Nash


On 8/29/08 9:24 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nope... Not quite that easy..
> I just tested it and I got "Safari can't download this file"
> 
> I know the correct file formats etc, but only way so far has been to use
> pwned phone via iTunes. Which is abomination.  And naturally not
> through linux. Last time I tried to get the grainy pictures out of the
> phone, iTunes only offered to delete them. Luckily I discovered that one
> can copy them directly from the phone in windows as long as iTunes is
> not running. When it is running, one can not copy pics..
> 
> So far I have not found a method of downloading ringtones to the iPhoney
> from my desktop nor server. (I prefer server.) The "but" being that I
> must be able to do it without pwning the device. Ability to do this
> would be the most important improvement for the iPhone.
> 
> Petri
> 
> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>> > All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>> >
>> > --Nash
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
>> > work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>> > their claims.
>> >
>> > Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>> > with every turn you make on the street?
>> > If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>> > interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>> > Nokia
>> > smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>> > years.unfortunately I
>> > don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
>> > sent
>> > this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>> >
>> > Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>> > ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
>> > the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>> > sound when concentrating to it.
>> >
>> > As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
>> > created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>> > iPhone (Now
>> > that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>> > never let
>> > third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
>> > know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>> >
>> > Petri
>> >
>> > Tim Fournet wrote:
>>> > > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>> > push/pull
>>> > > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
>>> > > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>> > watch as
>>> > > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>>> > > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>>> > >
>>> > > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>>> > > running Linux
>>> > > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>>> > > email/surfing/SSHing
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>> > > 
 > >> Yes...
 > >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
>> > sexy
 > >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
>> > for it.
 > >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>> > crashes
 > >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
 > >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
>> > "Hackers"
 > >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...
 > >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
>> > connect
 > >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does
not
 > >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
>> > established.)
 > >>
 > >> Petri
 > >>
 > >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
 > >> 
 > >>   
> > >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
> > >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
> > >>> Home: ubuntu
> > >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
> > >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> 
> > >>>   
> > >>>
>> >  What is your primary desktop OS?
>> >  1.  At home
>> >  2.  At work
>> > 
>> >  _

Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

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Home: XP
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> familiar with.  You referenced Forrest Gump.  I referenced Animal House.  
> 
> On Thursday 28 August 2008, Dustin Puryear wrote:
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[willhill]

Twentieth century, film based based movie reference.  Something that we all 
remember due to the centralized nature of film production.  That centralized 
nature is reflected in the MPAA stamp on the fast majority of films we are 
familiar with.  You referenced Forrest Gump.  I referenced Animal House.  

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Alvaro Zuniga]

On Thursday 28 August 2008 17:27:15 willhill wrote:
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3. Laptop: Gentoo

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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

yes  That is easy.  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
released.
NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.

There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.

Petri


Tim Fournet wrote:
> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
> may want to chime in
>
>
>
> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>   
>> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>>
>> --Nash
>>
>>
>> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
>> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>> their claims.
>>
>> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>> with every turn you make on the street?
>> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>> Nokia
>> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>> years.unfortunately I
>> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
>> sent
>> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>>
>> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
>> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>> sound when concentrating to it.
>>
>> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
>> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>> iPhone (Now
>> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>> never let
>> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
>> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>>
>> Petri
>>
>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>> push/pull
>> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
>> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>> watch as
>> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>> >
>> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>> > running Linux
>> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>> > email/surfing/SSHing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> >  
>> >> Yes...
>> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
>> sexy
>> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
>> for it.
>> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>> crashes
>> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
>> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
>> "Hackers"
>> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
>> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
>> connect
>> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
>> >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
>> established.)
>> >>
>> >> Petri
>> >>
>> >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>> >>  
>> >>
>> >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
>> >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>> >>> Home: ubuntu
>> >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>> >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>> >>>
>> >>>  
>>  What is your primary desktop OS?
>>  1.  At home
>>  2.  At work
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

Nope... Not quite that easy.. 
I just tested it and I got "Safari can't download this file"

I know the correct file formats etc, but only way so far has been to use 
pwned phone via iTunes. Which is abomination.  And naturally not 
through linux. Last time I tried to get the grainy pictures out of the 
phone, iTunes only offered to delete them. Luckily I discovered that one 
can copy them directly from the phone in windows as long as iTunes is 
not running. When it is running, one can not copy pics..

So far I have not found a method of downloading ringtones to the iPhoney 
from my desktop nor server. (I prefer server.) The "but" being that I 
must be able to do it without pwning the device. Ability to do this 
would be the most important improvement for the iPhone.

Petri

Nashid Hasan wrote:
> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>
> --Nash
>
>
> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
> their claims.
>
> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
> with every turn you make on the street?
> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
> Nokia
> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
> years.unfortunately I
> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
> sent
> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>
> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
> sound when concentrating to it.
>
> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
> iPhone (Now
> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
> never let
> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>
> Petri
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
> push/pull
> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
> watch as
> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
> >
> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
> > running Linux
> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
> > email/surfing/SSHing
> >
> >
> >
> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
> >  
> >> Yes...
> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
> sexy
> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
> for it.
> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
> crashes
> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
> "Hackers"
> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
> connect
> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
> >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
> established.)
> >>
> >> Petri
> >>
> >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
> >>  
> >>
> >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
> >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
> >>> Home: ubuntu
> >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
> >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>  
>  What is your primary desktop OS?
>  1.  At home
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Tim Fournet]

Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
may want to chime in



Nashid Hasan wrote:
> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>
> --Nash
>
>
> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
> their claims.
>
> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
> with every turn you make on the street?
> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
> Nokia
> smartphones, you have been able to do that for
> years.unfortunately I
> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got
> sent
> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
>
> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
> sound when concentrating to it.
>
> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
> iPhone (Now
> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
> never let
> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
>
> Petri
>
> Tim Fournet wrote:
> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
> push/pull
> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
> watch as
> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
> >
> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
> > running Linux
> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
> > email/surfing/SSHing
> >
> >
> >
> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
> >  
> >> Yes...
> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with
> sexy
> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay
> for it.
> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
> crashes
> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
> "Hackers"
> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
> connect
> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
> >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
> established.)
> >>
> >> Petri
> >>
> >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
> >>  
> >>
> >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
> >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
> >>> Home: ubuntu
> >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
> >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>  
>  What is your primary desktop OS?
>  1.  At home
>  2.  At work
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Nashid Hasan]

All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/

--Nash


On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of
> work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
> their claims.
> 
> Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
> with every turn you make on the street?
> If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
> interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With Nokia
> smartphones, you have been able to do that for years.unfortunately I
> don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got sent
> this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.
> 
> Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
> ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is
> the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
> sound when concentrating to it.
> 
> As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have
> created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned iPhone (Now
> that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will never let
> third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to
> know how to pwn their iPhoneys
> 
> Petri
> 
> Tim Fournet wrote:
>> > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got push/pull
>> > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the
>> > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and watch as
>> > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>> > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>> >
>> > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>> > running Linux
>> > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>> > email/surfing/SSHing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>> >  
>>> >> Yes...
>>> >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with sexy
>>> >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay for it.
>>> >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application crashes
>>> >> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
>>> >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app. "Hackers"
>>> >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...
>>> >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to connect
>>> >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not
>>> >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
>>> established.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Petri
>>> >>
>>> >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>> >>  
>>> >>
 >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
 >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
 >>> Home: ubuntu
 >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
 >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
 >>>
 >>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>>
 >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>  
 >>>
 >>>  
>  What is your primary desktop OS?
>  1.  At home
>  2.  At work
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] iPhoney - was: OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

There is potential with that device, if it would workjust lots of 
work. ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match 
their claims.

Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like 
with every turn you make on the street?
If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be 
interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With Nokia 
smartphones, you have been able to do that for years.unfortunately I 
don't have one anymore.  I wore one out in 5 years and got sent 
this one to replace it.  bad trade overall.

Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it 
ringing anymore..   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, is 
the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing 
sound when concentrating to it.

As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.  I have 
created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned iPhone (Now 
that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will never let 
third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer to 
know how to pwn their iPhoneys

Petri

Tim Fournet wrote:
> I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got push/pull 
> contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the 
> iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and watch as 
> it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are 
> finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>
> On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client 
> running Linux
> At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for 
> email/surfing/SSHing
>
>
>
> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>   
>> Yes...
>> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with sexy 
>> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay for it.
>> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application crashes 
>> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal 
>> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app. "Hackers" 
>> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...   
>> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to connect 
>> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not 
>> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be established.)
>>
>> Petri
>>
>> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely  
>>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>>> Home: ubuntu
>>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 What is your primary desktop OS?
 1.  At home
 2.  At work

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Tim Fournet]

Oh, and if you're on the iPhone, you may want to bookmark 
http://i.wund.com/tropical for the next few days


Tim Fournet wrote:
> I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got push/pull 
> contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the 
> iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and watch as 
> it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are 
> finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>
> On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client 
> running Linux
> At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for 
> email/surfing/SSHing
>
>
>
> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>   
>> Yes...
>> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with sexy 
>> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay for it.
>> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application crashes 
>> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal 
>> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app. "Hackers" 
>> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...   
>> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to connect 
>> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not 
>> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be established.)
>>
>> Petri
>>
>> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely  
>>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>>> Home: ubuntu
>>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 What is your primary desktop OS?
 1.  At home
 2.  At work

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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Tim Fournet]

I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got push/pull 
contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use the 
iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and watch as 
it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are 
finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.

On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client 
running Linux
At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for 
email/surfing/SSHing



Petri Laihonen wrote:
> Yes...
> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with sexy 
> UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay for it.
> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application crashes 
> every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal 
> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app. "Hackers" 
> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...   
> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to connect 
> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not 
> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be established.)
>
> Petri
>
> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>   
>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely  
>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>> Home: ubuntu
>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> What is your primary desktop OS?
>>> 1.  At home
>>> 2.  At work
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Andrew Baudouin]

Home: Vista 64
Work: XP
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Ryan Burychka]

Laptop/Work: Vista/Gentoo
Home: XP/Gentoo

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is your primary desktop OS?
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Petri Laihonen]

Yes...
I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo paperweight with sexy 
UI. Extremely crippled thingy Luckily I did not have to pay for it.
Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application crashes 
every time.  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal 
policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app. "Hackers" 
have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...   
Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to connect 
and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does not 
work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be established.)

Petri

Shannon Roddy wrote:
> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely  
> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
> Home: ubuntu
> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
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Re: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

[Keith M. Richard]

Animal House scene:
Did we quit when the Germans bombed Perl Harbor? 

Home: OSX 10.5 (VMWare Fusion: RedHat EL 5)
Work: XP/RedHat EL 5

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Subject: [brlug-general] OS Poll Time.

What is your primary desktop OS?
1.  At home 
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[brlug-general] Meeting Sept6 BerkeleyTIPGlobal-USA - Stallman Torvalds Debconf Akademy...

[john_re]

Hello Louisianians, from Berkeley.  :)

Anyone interested in attending this meeting there locally?

=  SUMMARY INTRODUCTION  =
If you value knowing, using or contributing to free software,
or getting together with members of the community,
you won't want to miss this meeting.

We'll be getting together in 1 week, on Saturday September 6,
for the First monthly meeting 
(in your community, & throughout the USA) joining with the
Berkeley TIP Global-USA meeting.
TIP = Talks, Installfest, Potluck, ProgrammingParty

I invite you to join us.

Sign up for the BerkTIPGlobal mailing list at
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal

Someone will need to set up a local meeting in your community-
at a place with internet for IRC.
It's easy - a WiFi cafe, schoolroom, a house or apartment is great.

Scan the rest of this announcement - there's a lot of info there, but
you don't need to read it in detail.

Is anyone there interested in attending this meeting?  
Reply to this message on your local list & see who'd like to come to a
meeting.

Ask any question you like on the Global mailing list too.
What questions do you have?

I hope to hear from you on the mailing list, 
and hope to meet you at the meeting.  :)


===  SUMMARY DETAILS  =
WHO:   YOU, and the GLOBAL GNU(Linux)/BSD FSW COMMUNITY.
WHAT:  The First Global-USA SIMULTANEOUS monthly MEETING of the 
   Berkeley - Talks Installfest Potluck & ProgrammingParty (TIP)
WHEN:  SEPTEMBER 6 SATURDAY 10AM-6PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time
   (Adjust for your local time. Ex: Eastern = Pacific + 3Hrs.)
WHERE: In your local community
WHY:   Learn, Install SW, Communicate, Produce
HOW:   Bring your laptop & VOIP headset. Download videos before meeting.


=  HOWTO - ARRANGING A LOCAL MEETING  =
Who will be the person to arrange your local simultaneous meeting,
for SEPTEMBER 6, SATURDAY?

It's really EASY. Just:
1) JOIN the BerkeleyTIP-Global MAILING LIST:
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
2) DECIDE on a LOCATION for the meeting:
 PUBLIC UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE = GREAT.
3) SEND out ANNOUNCEMENTS to email lists.
4) DOWNLOAD the VIDEOS ahead of time.
5) Have the MEETING.  :)

Reply to this email on your mailing list & I'll try to help you out.

Note: I'm doing this as one of my part time volunteer efforts for the
community, so I can only make a little time to help you.  I'll try to
help you.  :)  I've included step by step plans here & on the
BerkeleyTIP-Global Group website.  Ask questions to the
BerkeleyTIP-Global mailing list, & the community can help each other
out.

Reply to this message on your local list to let me know who will head up
your local meeting effort. Also say "Hi" on the BerkTIPGlobal mailing
list.  :)


=  ATTENDEE & MEETING - FACTS & BENEFITS  =
Whatever aspects of GNU(LINUX)/BSD 
freedom software, technology, or culture you are interested in,
on SEPTEMBER 6, SATURDAY, (& the 1st Saturday of every month)
the place YOU WILL WANT TO BE is at a local meeting of:

The historic First, Simultaneous,
Berkeley GNU(Linux)/BSD Freedom Culture
- Talks, Installfest, Potluck & ProgrammingParty (TIP)
Global-USA monthly meeting.
[10AM-6PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time - Adjust for your local time.]

http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal


=  MEETING ACTIVITIES  =
You will have about 20 educational talks to watch
[from the top minds in the GNU(Linux)/BSD Free SW world].
You will be able to:
Learn, Install or Upgrade, Communicate, & Create.

We will watch talks, then get together Globally-USA on IRC & VOIP to
discuss anything & everything.


=  1 WEEK TO ARRANGE LOCAL MEETINGS  =
With 1 week to go before the meeting, 
you have ample time to arrange a local meeting place & meeting.

I've created a simple plan/ set of instructions for you 
- all you have to do is follow the steps.

There's already been interest expressed in BatonRouge, Boston, Chicago,
Denver, Detroit, Hawaii, Montana, NorthCarolina, Virginia, Canada &
Columbia.  & Berkeley/SiliconValley.  & from FSF, FreeBSD & Debian
people. (And that's just from my small, part time effort on this.)

Who will be the person(s) to arrange your local meeting details?
Maybe it's you. (& it's straightforward, and easy to do.)


=  WHO SHOULD ATTEND  =
Parts of this meeting are relevant for:
Computing & technology professionals, business people, non-profits,
educators, students, scientists, (re)searchers, engineers, artists, &
home & personal computer users.

The meeting is Free, no money $ cost.
- & You might want to make a donation to support its growth/benefits.

I invite you to join our mailing list at
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal


=  VOLUNTEERING - ME & YOU  =
Note:  I'm putting this together as my volunteer effort for the
community, in my almost nonexistent "free/spare" time.   I've designed
this as a "self-reliant" event.  I'll certainly try to help everyone
out, but this event doesn't depend on me - if _you_ want a