Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
Oracle Express. On Jan 4, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Remind me: What's the other free database Sun has? > > -Original Message- > From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Keith Stokes > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:35 AM > To: general@brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL;Sign > the > petition] > > Seem like I remember reading Monty was bounced out of Sun/MySQL after > about 6 months. I think he didn't like the way Sun wanted to run > things; which might have included either killing MySQL or leaving it > commercial-only. > > The related question to ask would be "Why does Sun need 2 free > databases?" > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Maybe you guys know.. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dustin Puryear >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM >> To: lu...@lugoj.org >> Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] >> >> I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, >> MySQL AB >> had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, >> but >> otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why >> all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org >> [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis >> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM >> To: lu...@lugoj.org >> Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] >> >> Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being >> held up >> >> by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to >> see >> MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a >> chance >> >> to truly remain open. >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition >> Date:Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) >> From:mo...@helpmysql.org >> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >> >> >> >> Hi! >> >> I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in >> MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future >> well-being of MySQL. >> >> Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing >> the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the >> future of MySQL as an Open Source database. >> >> You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: >> http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html >> >> Help us spread the world about this petition! >> http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote >> is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! >> If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and >> ensure they also sign the petition! >> >> Regards, >> Monty >> Creator of MySQL >> >> PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry >> for >> reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, >> I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated >> with regarding MySQL. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Lugoj mailing list >> lu...@lists.lugoj.org >> http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org >> >> ___ >> General mailing list >> General@brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
That's kind of a tough question, and probably not a good example. However, I think of it as very fork-ish since it's definitely a LOT more than just a mirror. A lot of coding and repackaging goes into maintaining CentOS, and there are many many man-hours of work going into every package that comes out of Red Hat before they get into the CentOS mirrors. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Would CentOS be considered a fork? It’s not really divergent. More of a > mirror with commercial parts missing. > > > > ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
Remind me: What's the other free database Sun has? -Original Message- From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:35 AM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL;Sign the petition] Seem like I remember reading Monty was bounced out of Sun/MySQL after about 6 months. I think he didn't like the way Sun wanted to run things; which might have included either killing MySQL or leaving it commercial-only. The related question to ask would be "Why does Sun need 2 free databases?" On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Maybe you guys know.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dustin Puryear > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, > MySQL AB > had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, but > otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why > all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > -Original Message- > From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org > [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being > held up > > by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to see > MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a > chance > > to truly remain open. > > Original Message > Subject: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) > From: mo...@helpmysql.org > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > > Hi! > > I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in > MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future > well-being of MySQL. > > Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing > the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the > future of MySQL as an Open Source database. > > You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: > http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html > > Help us spread the world about this petition! > http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote > is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! > If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and > ensure they also sign the petition! > > Regards, > Monty > Creator of MySQL > > PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry > for >reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, >I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated >with regarding MySQL. > > > > ___ > Lugoj mailing list > lu...@lists.lugoj.org > http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
Would CentOS be considered a fork? It's not really divergent. More of a mirror with commercial parts missing. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ <http://www.puryear-it.com/> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ <http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Tim Fournet Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:15 PM To: general@brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL;Sign the petition] I disagree with the assumption that a forked project will ultimately fail. If there is truly a need for a fork, such as a total lack of support for an Open Source MySQL environment, then I'd predict that a working community based on that fork will build itself up and be self-sustaining. Some examples of this are CentOS, which is arguably a fork of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but has probably a significantly large installed base then RHEL; TigerCRM, a fork of SugarCRM; and Joomla, a very successful fork of the Mambo content management system. "MySQL" is a brand more well-known to the techies and developers than the PHBs, so I don't think there would be a lot of trouble for people to follow the forks. ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
I disagree with the assumption that a forked project will ultimately fail. If there is truly a need for a fork, such as a total lack of support for an Open Source MySQL environment, then I'd predict that a working community based on that fork will build itself up and be self-sustaining. Some examples of this are CentOS, which is arguably a fork of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but has probably a significantly large installed base then RHEL; TigerCRM, a fork of SugarCRM; and Joomla, a very successful fork of the Mambo content management system. "MySQL" is a brand more well-known to the techies and developers than the PHBs, so I don't think there would be a lot of trouble for people to follow the forks. ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
Seem like I remember reading Monty was bounced out of Sun/MySQL after about 6 months. I think he didn't like the way Sun wanted to run things; which might have included either killing MySQL or leaving it commercial-only. The related question to ask would be "Why does Sun need 2 free databases?" On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Maybe you guys know.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dustin Puryear > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, > MySQL AB > had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, but > otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why > all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > -Original Message- > From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org > [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being > held up > > by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to see > MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a > chance > > to truly remain open. > > Original Message > Subject: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) > From: mo...@helpmysql.org > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > > Hi! > > I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in > MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future > well-being of MySQL. > > Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing > the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the > future of MySQL as an Open Source database. > > You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: > http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html > > Help us spread the world about this petition! > http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote > is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! > If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and > ensure they also sign the petition! > > Regards, > Monty > Creator of MySQL > > PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry > for >reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, >I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated >with regarding MySQL. > > > > ___ > Lugoj mailing list > lu...@lists.lugoj.org > http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
When Monty "saves" MySQL, is he gonna give the billion dollars back to Sun? jk...i know he didn't get a billion personally. I think he wants to save the MySQL community. You can't just fork a product, and expect the community that created it to just follow. Although, with a "figurehead" like Monty leading the charge, I don't think it would be impossible to do. ray On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Maybe you guys know.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dustin Puryear > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, MySQL AB > had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, but > otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why > all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > -Original Message- > From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org > [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being held up > > by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to see > MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a chance > > to truly remain open. > > Original Message > Subject: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) > From: mo...@helpmysql.org > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > > Hi! > > I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in > MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future > well-being of MySQL. > > Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing > the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the > future of MySQL as an Open Source database. > > You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: > http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html > > Help us spread the world about this petition! > http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote > is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! > If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and > ensure they also sign the petition! > > Regards, > Monty > Creator of MySQL > > PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry for >reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, >I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated >with regarding MySQL. > > > > ___ > Lugoj mailing list > lu...@lists.lugoj.org > http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org Systems EngineerSoutheastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
With sun's repeated loss I am not sure how long it can survive without merging or being bought out. I switched most of my DBs to PostgreSQL couple of years ago because of minor performance and index corruption issues with MySQL. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents kart...@poobal.net kart...@la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Maybe you guys know.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dustin Puryear > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, MySQL AB > had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, but > otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why > all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > -Original Message- > From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org > [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM > To: lu...@lugoj.org > Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] > > Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being held up > > by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to see > MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a chance > > to truly remain open. > > Original Message > Subject: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) > From: mo...@helpmysql.org > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > > Hi! > > I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in > MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future > well-being of MySQL. > > Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing > the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the > future of MySQL as an Open Source database. > > You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: > http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html > > Help us spread the world about this petition! > http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote > is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! > If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and > ensure they also sign the petition! > > Regards, > Monty > Creator of MySQL > > PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry for >reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, >I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated >with regarding MySQL. > > > > ___ > Lugoj mailing list > lu...@lists.lugoj.org > http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org > > ___ > General mailing list > General@brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
[brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]
Maybe you guys know.. -Original Message- From: Dustin Puryear Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:50 AM To: lu...@lugoj.org Subject: RE: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] I must be missing something, but isn't MySQL open source? Sure, MySQL AB had a proprietary thingie here or there and professional services, but otherwise the community can still do what it wants with MySQL. So why all the hoopla I've been seeing about MySQL? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -Original Message- From: lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org [mailto:lugoj-boun...@lists.lugoj.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lewis Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:26 AM To: lu...@lugoj.org Subject: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition] Have you all seen this yet? The Sun purchasse by Oracle is being held up by the EU with this being a central reason. Personally I'd like to see MySQL given a bunch of cash like the baby bells was and give it a chance to truly remain open. Original Message Subject:Help save MySQL; Sign the petition Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:47:27 +0100 (CET) From: mo...@helpmysql.org To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hi! I am contacting you because you have in the past shown interest in MySQL and from that I assume you are interested in the future well-being of MySQL. Now you have a unique opportunity to make a difference. By signing the petition at http://www.helpmysql.org you can help affect the future of MySQL as an Open Source database. You can find more information of this on my latest blog post at: http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-keep-internet-free.html Help us spread the world about this petition! http://www.helpmysql.org is available in 18 languages and every vote is important, independent of from where in the world it comes! If you know people that are using MySQL, please contact them and ensure they also sign the petition! Regards, Monty Creator of MySQL PS: If you already have signed the petition or know about it, sorry for reminding you about this! Because of the importance of this issue, I am trying to contact every person that I have ever communicated with regarding MySQL. ___ Lugoj mailing list lu...@lists.lugoj.org http://lists.lugoj.org/listinfo.cgi/lugoj-lugoj.org ___ General mailing list General@brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
