Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Fremantle

On 5/22/06, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


speculationPossibly even donate
code for a C based parser./speculation



Sounds good. There is also a C version of the Apache Axiom xml model that
the proposed ARI codebase has been written with which should make it easier.
The Axiom C code hasn't been split off into a separate project, which was
done for Axiom/Java, but it is modular within the codebase.

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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread David N. Welton
James M Snell wrote:
 Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos

 Garrett Rooney wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron,
fermion,  etc...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton

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Re: May Status report?

2006-05-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

Thanks Adi.


Regards,
Alan

Sakala, Adinarayana wrote:

How about this text for the report?

Project just started incubation. CLAs are on file for the initial committers. 
A CCLA has been received for the initial contributions of Java ORB implementation 
and the code has been imported into SVN repository.  Mailing lists, subversion 
repository, and JIRA setup was completed. Activity is starting on the development 
mailing list.

Currently dev team started to discuss what would be a good first milestone release 
and its definition.

thanks,
Adi

  

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Subject: May Status report?


http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2006

Is Discussions on what would make a good milestone release 
all that should

be said for this project?

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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 5/23/06, David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


James M Snell wrote:
 Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos

 Garrett Rooney wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron,
fermion,  etc...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton



some cool options there but many seem already taken

leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms:

Dalton
Rutherford

(quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as names for
software that many physics terms)

- robert


Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,



hi eran

I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2

projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a
lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation
in to Axis2.



i was hoping that some axis folks would jump in :)

But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to

become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just
a PMC member.



AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the
current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that
should be restricted to members only.

but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you
don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going
to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be
a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer.

- robert


Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Ian Holsman

what about OPPENHEIMER ?...


On 23/05/2006, at 10:16 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:


On 5/23/06, David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


James M Snell wrote:
 Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos

 Garrett Rooney wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron,
fermion,  etc...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton



some cool options there but many seem already taken

leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms:

Dalton
Rutherford

(quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as  
names for

software that many physics terms)

- robert



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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Please see my comments in-line.

robert burrell donkin wrote:
 On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

Hi,

 
 
 AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the
 current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that
 should be restricted to members only.

Ok...

 
 but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you
 don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going
 to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be
 a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer.

I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original
proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I
might even be able to crunch some code.

Will give more feedback after downloading the original code.

-- Chinthaka



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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Yoav Shapira

Hola,
I'll jump in with a couple of suggestions, although my record on this
is dismal (I don't think any of my name suggestions have ever been
accepted in the incubator ;)):


From the nuclear domain:

- Apache Reactor (borrowing on the nuclear connotation of Atom)
- Apache Furnace (similar idea)
- Apache Fission (also physics-driven, though implies splitting, i.e.
not a unified community, so maybe not)
- Apache Fusion (might be great as it implies bringing stuff together)

A couple of international twists:
- Apache Atomico (italian for atomic)
- Apache Atomique (frensh for atomic)

And the kicker: Apache Schmelzverfahren (german word for fusion) !!

Yoav


On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please see my comments in-line.

robert burrell donkin wrote:
 On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

Hi,



 AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the
 current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that
 should be restricted to members only.

Ok...


 but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you
 don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going
 to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be
 a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer.

I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original
proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I
might even be able to crunch some code.

Will give more feedback after downloading the original code.

-- Chinthaka







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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Querna

Paul Fremantle wrote:

On 5/22/06, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


speculationPossibly even donate
code for a C based parser./speculation



Sounds good. There is also a C version of the Apache Axiom xml model that
the proposed ARI codebase has been written with which should make it 
easier.

The Axiom C code hasn't been split off into a separate project, which was
done for Axiom/Java, but it is modular within the codebase.



I am a little scared of the Axiom C code right now.. Maybe its really 
not that scary to someone who knows it :)


I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears 
that Axiom is also using that underneath.


Do you know of an Axiom C tutorial, introduction, or documentation?

Things like the README:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/c/axiom/README

Appear to be empty :)

Thanks,

Paul


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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Paul Querna wrote:
 Paul Fremantle wrote:
 
 
 I am a little scared of the Axiom C code right now.. Maybe its really
 not that scary to someone who knows it :)

Don't be scared its apache code :). Axis2/C team recently released
Axis2/C 0.9 and 0.91 based on Axiom/C implementation.

 
 I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears
 that Axiom is also using that underneath.
 
 Do you know of an Axiom C tutorial, introduction, or documentation?

See here : http://ws.apache.org/axis2/c/docs/om_tutorial.html.

- Chinthaka



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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Martin Cooper

On 5/23/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hola,
I'll jump in with a couple of suggestions, although my record on this
is dismal (I don't think any of my name suggestions have ever been
accepted in the incubator ;)):

From the nuclear domain:
- Apache Reactor (borrowing on the nuclear connotation of Atom)
- Apache Furnace (similar idea)
- Apache Fission (also physics-driven, though implies splitting, i.e.
not a unified community, so maybe not)
- Apache Fusion (might be great as it implies bringing stuff together)

A couple of international twists:
- Apache Atomico (italian for atomic)
- Apache Atomique (frensh for atomic)

And the kicker: Apache Schmelzverfahren (german word for fusion) !!



Yoav, I just can't understand why people haven't jumped on your suggestions
before! ;-)

There's also Atomate, a play on automate.

--
Martin Cooper


Yoav



On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please see my comments in-line.

 robert burrell donkin wrote:
  On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,

 Hi,

 
 
  AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and
the
  current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something
that
  should be restricted to members only.

 Ok...

 
  but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved.
you
  don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're
going
  to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe
it'd be
  a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer.

 I leave the discretion, of me adding as a developer, with the original
 proposers. But I'm ready to help anytime specially with Axiom. Perhaps I
 might even be able to crunch some code.

 Will give more feedback after downloading the original code.

 -- Chinthaka






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RE: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Glen Daniels

Jumping in with a quick $0.02:

 There's also Atomate, a play on automate.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper

I really like that, as it's both a play on automate and also
atom-mate, i.e. a useful companion to Atom.

+1!

--Glen

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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread James M Snell
+1. it would be VERY helpful to have an Axiom expert advising on the
project, even if it's not in a formal mentor role.

- James

robert burrell donkin wrote:
 On 5/23/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 hi eran
 
 I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2
 projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a
 lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation
 in to Axis2.
 
 
 i was hoping that some axis folks would jump in :)
 
 But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to
 become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just
 a PMC member.
 
 
 AIUI not as a mentor. it's a particular role involving oversight and the
 current concensus amongst the membership is that this is something that
 should be restricted to members only.
 
 but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good to have you involved. you
 don't need to be a formal mentor to offer guidance on list. if you're going
 to be able to find some time to help out with the coding then maybe it'd be
 a good idea if your name were added to the proposal as a developer.
 
 - robert
 

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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread James M Snell
Thanks for all the name suggestions given thus far.  Keep 'em coming.

The two names I have in mind (in order of preference) are:

1. Wave
2. Atomos

- James


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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Anu (Sanskrit word for Atom - [1])

[1] http://www.google.com/search?q=atom+anu+sanskrit

On 5/23/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for all the name suggestions given thus far.  Keep 'em coming.

The two names I have in mind (in order of preference) are:

1. Wave
2. Atomos

- James


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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 06:19 -0700, Paul Querna wrote:
 
 I am currently using the xmlTextReaderRead of libxml2, and it appears 
 that Axiom is also using that underneath.

It has a pull parser abstraction layer to support multiple pull parsers.
We currently use libxml2 but that's slow because it builds the dom and
then pulls. We have our own native pull parser (guththila) but its not
100% ready yet .. once that's ready that'll become the default parser.
We will retain support for libxml2 as that's the default parser in php
land for example. 

Please join axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org .. in any case we should move
axiom-c out into the ws-commons axiom project soon.

Sanjiva.



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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Roy T. Fielding

On May 23, 2006, at 5:16 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:


On 5/23/06, David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


James M Snell wrote:
 Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos

 Garrett Rooney wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron,
fermion,  etc...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton



some cool options there but many seem already taken

leading on to scientists closely associated with atoms:

Dalton
Rutherford

(quick google seems to indicate that these are less widely used as  
names for

software that many physics terms)


FYI, in California, the names/images of real people who lived within
the past 75 years or so are protected by laws that are more like
copyright than trademarks, and reserved for the exclusive benefit of
the person's estate.  It was originally intended to protect the image
of famous people used in advertising. Similar laws (with varying
length of coverage) are found elsewhere.

As such, the days when you could name a product after a famous person
are long gone unless you can get that person to sign a document that
gives us irrevocable permission.

Roy

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Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]

2006-05-23 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe

Hi All,
I too am interested in this project, I am from Axis2/C project and was 
involved with implementing Axiom in C for Axis2/C project.
	Hopefully, I too can help from Axiom domain. 
	It is great that this is going to use Axiom, hopefully leading to lots of improvements to Axiom itself.

Thanks,
Samisa...


Hi,



I'm Eran Chinthaka, one of the contributors from Axiom and Axis2
projects. I also would like to mentor this project as I have worked a
lot with Axiom and involved in integrating Atom and RSS feed generation
in to Axis2.



But I read the FAQ [1] and it states you have to be a member of ASF to
become a mentor. So I wonder whether I can help as a mentor as I'm just
a PMC member.



-- Chinthaka



[1] :
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentors



Garrett Rooney wrote:
On 5/22/06, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

The following is a new project incubation proposal. We welcome your
feedback and would like to extend a invitation for participation
including mentors.

The proposal is also located at
  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriProposal

The initial source for the project is available at:
  http://www.snellspace.com/public/ari.tar.gz


I would be interested in helping to mentor this project, and perhaps
eventually working on C implementations of some of its functionality.

One comment though, you might want to reroll ari.tar.gz so it unpacks
into a directory named ari, as opposed to spilling all sorts of stuff
into the current working directory.

-garrett

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