Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
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 Just two concerns...

 Is it anticipated this will graduate into the WS TLP?  If so, has WS voted
 to sponsor the project into incubation?

We would like to leave this open during the initial graduation. I
think this might aim for TLP in order to maintain neutrality across
different frameworks such as Axis, Axis2 and CXF.

 I presume n==6, could you update the wiki?
Done. Thanks for picking this up.

Paul

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache UIMACPP-2.2.2-incubating

2008-11-14 Thread Sam Ruby
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Daniel Kulp

+1 

Dan


On Thursday 13 November 2008 12:41:56 pm Paul Fremantle wrote:
 The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while,
 and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to
 call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or
 contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache
 process of course allows that at any time.

 The proposal is here:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal

 And also included at the end:

 Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling.

 Paul

 StonehengeProposal
 Project Stonehenge
 Abstract

 Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented
 Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best
 practise and interoperability.
 Proposal

 The aim of the Stonehenge project is to develop a set of sample
 applications to demonstrate seamless interoperability across multiple
 underlying platform technologies by using currently defined W3C and
 OASIS standard protocols.

 We are proposing this incubator project because we believe that a
 project that includes a set of sample applications, with multiple
 language and framework implementations will become a useful and
 important part of the SOA landscape. It will:

 *

   illustrate and develop best practice for interoperable
 applications that communicate via distributed protocols,
 *

   demonstrate interoperability between platforms,
 *

   provide sample code upon which SOA developers can build,
 *

   help identify interoperability issues and their solutions, and
 *

   build confidence in cross-platform deployment of SOA technologies.

 We believe that pursuit of these objectives at Apache has a number of
 significant benefits:

1.

   Attractiveness of Apache to the wide range of vendors and
 customers willing to participate in the conception, development, and
 implementation of new scenarios.
2.

   A well-established, neutral forum and process for architectural
 design and implementation.
3.

   The flexibility of the Apache License to allow users to leverage
 Stonehenge without onerous conditions.

 Initially WSO2 will contribute an application called StockTrader,
 which is currently implemented in various languages based on
 Axis2/Java and Axis2/C including Java, PHP, Ruby, Perl, Python, and
 Spring. This will form the first of several applications which will be
 built in this incubator podling. In addition, we will invite
 contributions of other stock trader applications, including the
 Microsoft StockTrader sample found at [WWW]
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/bb499684.aspx. We also
 invite contributions from any other organization who has similar
 applications or technologies.

 Interoperability between the WSO2 StockTrader 2.0 application and the
 Microsoft StockTrader 2.0 has already been demonstrated and we expect
 to demonstrate wider interoperability.

 Going beyond StockTrader, we expect to develop additional applications
 that demonstrate SOA principles in an open and collaborative manner
 within the Stonehenge community.
 Current Status

 The development to date of the StockTrader application has
 successfully shown the benefits of cross-platform interoperability and
 have provided a useful example to developers on those platforms.
 However, the StockTrader application as currently implemented has
 limitations, including a limited repertoire of technologies (e.g.
 focusing primarily on WS-Security), and a limited number of
 implementation platforms (Axis2/Java, Axis2/C). We expect that this
 podling would expand the scope of this effort to a wider set of
 implementation platforms (including but not limited to Apache
 technologies such as Apache CXF) as well as bring in a wider, more
 diverse community of participants.
 Meritocracy

 One of the core aims of the Stonehenge proposal is to encourage
 meritocracy and contribution. One core aim in coming to Apache is to
 use the well-defined governance model that Apache has and to encourage
 the developers of frameworks to get involved and contribute
 implementations of the core components. A good proportion of the
 project participants are experienced Apache contributors and totally
 understand the Apache meritocracy approach. Everyone involved see that
 as being crucial to the success of this project.
 Core Developers

 The core developers are all listed in the initial committers list
 later in this proposal.
 Alignment

 The project already uses core libraries from the [WWW] Apache WS
 project including [WWW] Apache Axis2/Java, [WWW] Rampart and [WWW]
 Sandesha2. In addition, the PHP, Perl, and Python versions use the
 [WWW] Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to develop versions that
 utilize at least the [WWW] Apache CXF and [WWW] Apache Qpid projects
 in the future. For build we intend to use [WWW] Apache Maven.
 Known Risks
 Orphaned Products

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
+1

Thank you!
Deepal
 +1 

 Dan


 On Thursday 13 November 2008 12:41:56 pm Paul Fremantle wrote:
   
 The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while,
 and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to
 call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or
 contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache
 process of course allows that at any time.

 The proposal is here:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal

 And also included at the end:

 Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling.

 Paul

 StonehengeProposal
 Project Stonehenge
 Abstract

 Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented
 Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best
 practise and interoperability.
 Proposal

 The aim of the Stonehenge project is to develop a set of sample
 applications to demonstrate seamless interoperability across multiple
 underlying platform technologies by using currently defined W3C and
 OASIS standard protocols.

 We are proposing this incubator project because we believe that a
 project that includes a set of sample applications, with multiple
 language and framework implementations will become a useful and
 important part of the SOA landscape. It will:

 *

   illustrate and develop best practice for interoperable
 applications that communicate via distributed protocols,
 *

   demonstrate interoperability between platforms,
 *

   provide sample code upon which SOA developers can build,
 *

   help identify interoperability issues and their solutions, and
 *

   build confidence in cross-platform deployment of SOA technologies.

 We believe that pursuit of these objectives at Apache has a number of
 significant benefits:

1.

   Attractiveness of Apache to the wide range of vendors and
 customers willing to participate in the conception, development, and
 implementation of new scenarios.
2.

   A well-established, neutral forum and process for architectural
 design and implementation.
3.

   The flexibility of the Apache License to allow users to leverage
 Stonehenge without onerous conditions.

 Initially WSO2 will contribute an application called StockTrader,
 which is currently implemented in various languages based on
 Axis2/Java and Axis2/C including Java, PHP, Ruby, Perl, Python, and
 Spring. This will form the first of several applications which will be
 built in this incubator podling. In addition, we will invite
 contributions of other stock trader applications, including the
 Microsoft StockTrader sample found at [WWW]
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/bb499684.aspx. We also
 invite contributions from any other organization who has similar
 applications or technologies.

 Interoperability between the WSO2 StockTrader 2.0 application and the
 Microsoft StockTrader 2.0 has already been demonstrated and we expect
 to demonstrate wider interoperability.

 Going beyond StockTrader, we expect to develop additional applications
 that demonstrate SOA principles in an open and collaborative manner
 within the Stonehenge community.
 Current Status

 The development to date of the StockTrader application has
 successfully shown the benefits of cross-platform interoperability and
 have provided a useful example to developers on those platforms.
 However, the StockTrader application as currently implemented has
 limitations, including a limited repertoire of technologies (e.g.
 focusing primarily on WS-Security), and a limited number of
 implementation platforms (Axis2/Java, Axis2/C). We expect that this
 podling would expand the scope of this effort to a wider set of
 implementation platforms (including but not limited to Apache
 technologies such as Apache CXF) as well as bring in a wider, more
 diverse community of participants.
 Meritocracy

 One of the core aims of the Stonehenge proposal is to encourage
 meritocracy and contribution. One core aim in coming to Apache is to
 use the well-defined governance model that Apache has and to encourage
 the developers of frameworks to get involved and contribute
 implementations of the core components. A good proportion of the
 project participants are experienced Apache contributors and totally
 understand the Apache meritocracy approach. Everyone involved see that
 as being crucial to the success of this project.
 Core Developers

 The core developers are all listed in the initial committers list
 later in this proposal.
 Alignment

 The project already uses core libraries from the [WWW] Apache WS
 project including [WWW] Apache Axis2/Java, [WWW] Rampart and [WWW]
 Sandesha2. In addition, the PHP, Perl, and Python versions use the
 [WWW] Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to develop versions that
 utilize at least the [WWW] Apache CXF and [WWW] Apache Qpid projects
 in the future. For build we intend to use [WWW] Apache Maven.
 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday 13 November 2008 10:49:02 pm William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 Just two concerns...

   The project already uses core libraries from the Apache WS project
including Apache Axis2/Java, Rampart and Sandesha2. In addition, the
 PHP, Perl, and Python versions use the Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to
 develop versions that utilize at least the Apache CXF and Apache Qpid
 projects in the future. For build we intend to use Apache Maven.

 Is it anticipated this will graduate into the WS TLP?  If so, has WS voted
 to sponsor the project into incubation?

As Paul and Sanjiva kind of mentioned, this really doesn't need to be decided 
now.We DID talk about this a bit when we were working on the proposal and 
really didn't have a good answer right now.   

The goal of the project is to NOT be tied to Axis2 and the other WebServices 
project stuff..   Axis2 will be one implementation.   .NET another.   CXF 
another.Hopefully we'll get others as well.  Maybe Metro,  Spring 
WebServices,  Oracle/BEA,  etc.Thus, tying it directly to the axis2 
stuff would be a disservice to Stonehenge and what it's trying to achieve.   
That's actually part of how the project would like to diversify and grow.   
Bring in implementations (and committers) for other toolkits.

THAT said, there are talks to pull Axis out TLP with WebServices being 
the common stuff.   If/when that happens, then it MIGHT make more sense to 
put it there.   But that depends on events outside the Stonehenge project and 
isn't really something we wanted to depend on at proposal time.   Thus, the 
decision was made to not put that tie in right now.   That is something that 
can be resolved when the project is closer to graduation.

Besides, don't you think the WS project is big enough already?   :-)

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Fremantle wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just two concerns...
 
 Is it anticipated this will graduate into the WS TLP?  If so, has WS voted
 to sponsor the project into incubation?
 
 We would like to leave this open during the initial graduation. I
 think this might aim for TLP in order to maintain neutrality across
 different frameworks such as Axis, Axis2 and CXF.

Thanks to all who answered, you've clarified things quite a bit.  This
was mostly to if this isn't an end-run around the WS PMC, which it most
obviously is not.


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[RESULT] [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-14 Thread Carl Trieloff

Carl Trieloff wrote:


It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev 
list that Qpid
would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC 
felt that the
Qpid project should increase its diversity. Over the intervening 
months Qpid has
added more independents to the project  PPMC, bringing the diversity 
to 7 legally
independent parties (not counting those mentors who will stay on to 
help advise), with
the PPMC diversity at 5 legally independent parties (also not counting 
mentors).


Qpid also continues to attract more contributors (both independents 
and large corporates),
so the committer pool and diversity should continue to expand as 
contributors are voted

in as committers.

Qpid has also made an additional release since the last graduation 
attempt and is currently
working through close down of the next release. Qpid was accepted into 
the incubator

August 2006.



Binding - names listed at: http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html

(8 +1 binding)

Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Craig L Russell  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ant Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(2 +1 non-binding)

Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED]

no (0 or -1 votes)

Many thanks to all those involved and that voted on the community vote 
etc... I will now

pass the resolution onto the board.

Carl.


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Craig L Russell

+1

Craig

On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote:


The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while,
and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to
call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or
contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache
process of course allows that at any time.

The proposal is here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal

And also included at the end:

Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a  
podling.


Paul


Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
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