Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Raymond Feng
+1.

Raymond Feng
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote:

 +1 (binding)
 
 Regards
 JB
 
 On 10/11/2011 11:09 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!
 
 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.
 
 Please VOTE:
 
 [ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
 [ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...
 
 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.
 
 Thanks! My vote is +1.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 
 
 
 Apache Callback Proposal
 
 
 Abstract
 
 
 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
 
 Proposal
 
 
 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.
 
 Background
 --
 
 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.
 
 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.
 
 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser APIs.
 
 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.
 
 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.
 
 Rationale
 -
 
 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.
 
 Initial Goals
 -
 
 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
   Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
   tests and related infrastructure.
 
 Current Status
 --
 
 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.
 
 Meritocracy
 ---
 
 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.
 
 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.
 
 Community
 -
 
 The community 

Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-12 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Pedro,
+1 that sounds really interesting - who doesn't know Beanshell, it's
amazing! - I may could help on the proposal, but unfortunately I have
too many stuff to manage this time to manage so I cannot be fully
involved :(
Looking forward to see more people interested before putting black on white!
All the best, have  anice day,
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/



On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
 (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
 response only to general@incubator)

 Hello;

 As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
 the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.

 Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
 they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
 willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
 and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
 though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
 incubation process themselves.

 http://www.beanshell.org/

 I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
 AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
 to the ASF.

 Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
 take the lead in an incubation process?

 best regards,

 Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Scott Wilson
+1 (non-binding)

On 11 Oct 2011, at 22:09, Jukka Zitting wrote:

 Hi,
 
 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!
 
 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.
 
 Please VOTE:
 
[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...
 
 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.
 
 Thanks! My vote is +1.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 
 
 
 Apache Callback Proposal
 
 
 Abstract
 
 
 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
 
 Proposal
 
 
 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.
 
 Background
 --
 
 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.
 
 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.
 
 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser APIs.
 
 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.
 
 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.
 
 Rationale
 -
 
 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.
 
 Initial Goals
 -
 
 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
  Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
  tests and related infrastructure.
 
 Current Status
 --
 
 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.
 
 Meritocracy
 ---
 
 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.
 
 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.
 
 Community
 -
 
 The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
 and with all levels of proficiency in software development---the common
 

Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch

 OK to change that?

 This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
 with colour-blindness.

 I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
 development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 It used to have decent contrast for the links.
 Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
 to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
 colour to be the same (which is poor design).

No, its not. I like it. Marking visited links with different colors is
so 90ies. You see, it is in the eye of the observer.


 I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
 for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

Now the visited links in the clutch table cannot be differed from the
green background. I should mention that I have a color-weakness.


 -David

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Marcel Offermans
+1 (binding)


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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Finally the wonderful bootstrap css is destroyed:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html

I do not agree to changing the colors of visited links.
The headings now have a different line-height and look pretty ugly
(see Mailing lists heading).
Heading were bold before, and I think we should keep them bold.

And looking at this page compared to:
http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/guides/committer.html
Even the heading color should not be black. It gives everything a
depressing look and feel.

The clutchtable has a class called colortable, can we format this
class instead of formatting the standard bootstrap classes?

Can we change that again, please?

Thanks,
Christian



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
David,

congratulations to the new release.

Just a comment I cannot see the new release on the website:
http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/
Should't it be updated together with the release?

Then I think it is not very good to send the /dist folder link around,
because to my knowledge it is bypassing the mirror system. Instead we
usually use some kind of download page generator.

At your website:
http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
fedorahost for the code.

Cheers
Christian

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:47 PM, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 I am pleased to announce the availability of Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1.

 Apache Deltacloud is a RESTful cloud abstraction API. The release
 consists both of the API server and a Ruby client.

 The release can be found at
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/0.4.1/ Gems and RPM's
 for Fedora will become available shortly.

 Many thanks to all those who contributed patches, reported bugs, and
 asked for features. It's great to see that the list of committers and
 patch contributors is steadily increasing.

 Overview of the changes for this release:

  * change how dependencies are managed: canonical deps are now in the
    gemspecs

 Server:
  * clarify how user_data injection should work; make sure all drivers
    accept base64 encoded data and make the decoded version available to
    instance
  * fix URL generation so that server works when run behind a reverse proxy
  * init script: honor defaults from sysconfig file
  * init script: fix 'status', properly background deltacloudd
  * deltacloudd: support verbose option
  * Drivers:
    + Condor
      - use UUIDTools instead of UUID to simplify deps
    + Google
      - new driver for Google storage API
    + RHEV-M
      - treat status as case-insensitive
      - inject data through a virtual floppy rather than modifying
        the instance storage directly
    + vSphere
      - report minimum of max memory across all hosts in a data center, so
        that instances can be placed on any host
      - user_data is placed in file 'deltacloud-user-data.txt'

 Client:
  * fix parsing of enums in HWP properties
  * fix handling of float value for number of vCPU in HWP

 David






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Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Wow, many cool stuff coming to apache recently.
Hopefully there are some mentors out there. I have hands full with
open source work already.

Cheers
Christian

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
 (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
 response only to general@incubator)

 Hello;

 As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
 the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.

 Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
 they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
 willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
 and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
 though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
 incubation process themselves.

 http://www.beanshell.org/

 I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
 AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
 to the ASF.

 Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
 take the lead in an incubation process?

 best regards,

 Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please VOTE:

    [ X] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz 
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Please VOTE:
 
 [ X] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation

 -Bertrand

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 10:04, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Finally the wonderful bootstrap css is destroyed:
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html

 I do not agree to changing the colors of visited links.
 The headings now have a different line-height and look pretty ugly
 (see Mailing lists heading).

Sorry, I don't see the line-height issue.

I don't mind too much about the visited links being a different colour.

 Heading were bold before, and I think we should keep them bold.

I was not aware I had changed the font weight.

 And looking at this page compared to:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft-v2/guides/committer.html
 Even the heading color should not be black. It gives everything a
 depressing look and feel.

I find black more legible, and having headings the same colour as
links is very confusing.

 The clutchtable has a class called colortable, can we format this
 class instead of formatting the standard bootstrap classes?

 Can we change that again, please?

Perhaps the earlier suggestion of creating a branch to test out the
new formatting would now be useful.

If this is stored on p.a.o in a personal directory, we can try
different settings very quickly.

 Thanks,
 Christian



 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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Re: Clutch blue-green background colour obscures entries

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Will respond to rest later

 Can we change that again, please?

 Perhaps the earlier suggestion of creating a branch to test out the
 new formatting would now be useful.

+1

 If this is stored on p.a.o in a personal directory, we can try
 different settings very quickly.

+1

Cheers


 Thanks,
 Christian



 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
  sebb wrote:
 
  Clutch uses a blue-green background colour for satisfactory entries.
 
  However, many entries include clickable blue links which are not very
  distinct from the background.
 
  I suggest changing the background to light green (#90EE90) which works
  much better for me.
 
  See the sample lines for Ace and Airavata at
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/clutch.html#clutch
 
  OK to change that?
 
  This colour scheme was carefully chosen to assist
  with colour-blindness.
 
  I have been meaning to find the old discussion and
  development here about that, and add to Clutch notes.

 +1

 There are now some notes and acknowledgement at the bottom.

  It used to have decent contrast for the links.

 Sorry, should have checked that out.
 I've already rebuilt the original site to check the strange header
 behaviour, and indeed the table used to display very well.

  Now the new bootsrap CSS has changed link colour
  to be a lighter blue. It has also changed the visited link
  colour to be the same (which is poor design).
 
  I started yesterday to develop some CSS to fix that
  for this table, but really it is an overall site issue.

 Indeed.

 Thanks for fixing that for the whole site. That is much better.

 There is also the issue of ul lists being coloured faint grey.
 That reduces readability.

 -David

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RE: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
+1 (non-binding).  


-Original Message-
From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:10 PM
To: general
Subject: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

Hi,

As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!

Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
included below. The proposal is also available at
http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.

Please VOTE:

[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...

This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
binding.

Thanks! My vote is +1.

Best regards,

Jukka Zitting



Apache Callback Proposal


Abstract


Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.

Proposal


Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia
Symbian
and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
for any type of native access from the embedded webview.

Background
--

Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
project.

PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function
Interface)
to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.

PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser
APIs.

The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.

The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
when the FFI bridge is established.

Rationale
-

The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly
phones.
The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
open and accessible web.

Initial Goals
-

* License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
  Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
* Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
* Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
  tests and related infrastructure.

Current Status
--

Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.

Meritocracy
---

Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
solve our goals.

It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.

Community
-

The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
and with all levels of proficiency in software 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread mar...@redhat.com
Hi Christian,

thanks for your comments - you're right, the website is pretty
under-updated recently. We've finished a tidying up of the website
content - clearer download/setup instructions, more info for developers
etc but have been holding off on deploying the updated site content
specifically waiting for release 4.0.1. Mainly because the updated site
documents the 'easy' installation of deltacloud using rubygems (i.e. gem
install deltacloud-core) - and this only works because of the updated
.gemfile dependencies in release 4.0.1. (basically, the gemfile outlines
all 'runtime' gems - especially the ones that deltacloud uses to talk to
the cloud providers like aws).

I just checked rubygems.org and we haven't yet pushed the updated
deltacloud-core gem (4.0.1); this should happen in the next few
hours/day. Once that is done I will also deploy the updated site content.

One the new gem is pushed to rubygems.org, you'll be able to get the
latest release by:

  gem install deltacloud-core

For now, you can get the release at the
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/0.4.1/ - I take your point
about the mirroring system.

If you have the time/interest, you can use the git mirror to get the
sources+build the latest:

mkdir DeltacloudProject; cd DeltacloudProject
git clone git://git.apache.org/deltacloud.git
cd ./deltacloud/server
rake package
sudo gem install ./pkg/deltacloud-core-0.4.1.gem

We also have a github page which mirrors the apache repo at
https://github.com/apache/deltacloud if you prefer github.

As I say, the 4.0.1 will be deployed to rubygems very soon - once that
happens 'gem install deltacloud-core' will give you the latest release
and all its dependencies,

all the best, marios

On 12/10/11 12:13, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 David,
 
 congratulations to the new release.
 
 Just a comment I cannot see the new release on the website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/
 Should't it be updated together with the release?
 
 Then I think it is not very good to send the /dist folder link around,
 because to my knowledge it is bypassing the mirror system. Instead we
 usually use some kind of download page generator.
 
 At your website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
 I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
 fedorahost for the code.
 
 Cheers
 Christian
 
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:47 PM, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 I am pleased to announce the availability of Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1.

 Apache Deltacloud is a RESTful cloud abstraction API. The release
 consists both of the API server and a Ruby client.

 The release can be found at
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/0.4.1/ Gems and RPM's
 for Fedora will become available shortly.

 Many thanks to all those who contributed patches, reported bugs, and
 asked for features. It's great to see that the list of committers and
 patch contributors is steadily increasing.

 Overview of the changes for this release:

  * change how dependencies are managed: canonical deps are now in the
gemspecs

 Server:
  * clarify how user_data injection should work; make sure all drivers
accept base64 encoded data and make the decoded version available to
instance
  * fix URL generation so that server works when run behind a reverse proxy
  * init script: honor defaults from sysconfig file
  * init script: fix 'status', properly background deltacloudd
  * deltacloudd: support verbose option
  * Drivers:
+ Condor
  - use UUIDTools instead of UUID to simplify deps
+ Google
  - new driver for Google storage API
+ RHEV-M
  - treat status as case-insensitive
  - inject data through a virtual floppy rather than modifying
the instance storage directly
+ vSphere
  - report minimum of max memory across all hosts in a data center, so
that instances can be placed on any host
  - user_data is placed in file 'deltacloud-user-data.txt'

 Client:
  * fix parsing of enums in HWP properties
  * fix handling of float value for number of vCPU in HWP

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[SITE] Samples of site with different CSS settings

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
I've uploaded the current site to my pao directory:

http://people.apache.org/~sebb/incubator/

This was created using a reworked site.vsl that creates relative links
where possible, so the LH menu should work OK

the directories are:

current - as for existing CSS files

bootstrap - css files as per original commit of bootstrap

I can easily create other samples with different CSS files for comparison.

[Note - I dropped the audit and altRMI folders and some other stuff to
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi,

On 11 October 2011 22:09, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:

Please VOTE:

[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...


+1

Andrew.
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http://www.andrewsavory.com/


Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 (binding)

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

 Hi,
 
 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!
 
 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.
 
 Please VOTE:
 
[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...
 
 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.
 
 Thanks! My vote is +1.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding)
Tommaso

2011/10/11 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!

 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.

 Please VOTE:

[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...

 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.

 Thanks! My vote is +1.

 Best regards,

 Jukka Zitting

 

 Apache Callback Proposal
 

 Abstract
 

 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.

 Proposal
 

 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.

 Background
 --

 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.

 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function
 Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.

 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser
 APIs.

 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.

 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.

 Rationale
 -

 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.

 Initial Goals
 -

 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
  Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
  tests and related infrastructure.

 Current Status
 --

 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29,
 2011.

 Meritocracy
 ---

 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.

 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.

 Community
 -

 The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
 and with all levels of proficiency in software development---the common
 thread of web 

[VOTE] Release Droids 0.1-incubating RC4

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Frovarp
Please vote on the release candidate for Apache Droids Incubating, 
version 0.1-incubating. I've received two binding IPMC +1 votes and 4 
non-binding +1 votes. The blockers identified by Marvin and sebb should 
be fixed in this release. I need one more binding IPMC +1 vote.


PPMC release vote thread:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-dev/201109.mbox/%3c4e84e1b9.2050...@apache.org%3E

Source files:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedroids-075/org/apache/droids/droids/0.1.0-incubating/ 



Maven staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedroids-075/

SVN source tag (r1172386):
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/droids/tags/0.1.0-incubating/

PGP release keys (signed using 3698A2B1):
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/droids/KEYS


[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: [SITE] Samples of site with different CSS settings

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 13:46, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've uploaded the current site to my pao directory:

 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/incubator/

 This was created using a reworked site.vsl that creates relative links
 where possible, so the LH menu should work OK

 the directories are:

 current - as for existing CSS files

 bootstrap - css files as per original commit of bootstrap

 I can easily create other samples with different CSS files for comparison.

 [Note - I dropped the audit and altRMI folders and some other stuff to
 make the site smaller]

I just changed the About the Apache Incubator header on the first
page to use h2 id=xxx instead of a name=xxx.

This was the alternative fix I discussed previously.

It would mean just about every page would change.
But if combined with moving to relative hrefs that would reduce the
SVN commit noise.

S///

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Re: Format of email

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 16:50, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
 sebb wrote on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:36:27 +0100:
 On 12 October 2011 16:23, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
  sebb wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:24:19 +0100:
  On 11 October 2011 18:21, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
   It's the ezmlm -x/-X flag.  I don't know how to determine it without
   shell access to apmail.
 
  Could query@pulse be updated to return this information?
 
 
  pulse runs on pulse.a.o, not hermes.a.o.  How would you transfer the
  information from hermes to pulse?

 No idea, but then I don't know how it currently obtains the
 information it does return.

 Would it be possible to install some kind of agent on hermes which
 accepted specific requests from pulse?

 It's technically feasible to extract the information from hermes:~apmail
 into some other place.  Why should we do that?

Do what? install an agent? or extract the info?

If it can be done, why not do it for Larry?

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Ross Gardler
+1

On 11 October 2011 22:09, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!

 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.

 Please VOTE:

    [ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
    [ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...

 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.

 Thanks! My vote is +1.

 Best regards,

 Jukka Zitting

 

 Apache Callback Proposal
 

 Abstract
 

 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.

 Proposal
 

 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.

 Background
 --

 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.

 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.

 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser APIs.

 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.

 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.

 Rationale
 -

 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.

 Initial Goals
 -

 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
  Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
  tests and related infrastructure.

 Current Status
 --

 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.

 Meritocracy
 ---

 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.

 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.

 Community
 -

 The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
 and with all levels of proficiency in software development---the common
 thread of web 

Re: Format of email

2011-10-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Wrong list

sebb wrote on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 17:03:01 +0100:
 On 12 October 2011 16:50, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
  sebb wrote on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:36:27 +0100:
  On 12 October 2011 16:23, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
   sebb wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:24:19 +0100:
   On 11 October 2011 18:21, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
It's the ezmlm -x/-X flag.  I don't know how to determine it without
shell access to apmail.
  
   Could query@pulse be updated to return this information?
  
  
   pulse runs on pulse.a.o, not hermes.a.o.  How would you transfer the
   information from hermes to pulse?
 
  No idea, but then I don't know how it currently obtains the
  information it does return.
 
  Would it be possible to install some kind of agent on hermes which
  accepted specific requests from pulse?
 
  It's technically feasible to extract the information from hermes:~apmail
  into some other place.  Why should we do that?
 
 Do what? install an agent? or extract the info?
 
 If it can be done, why not do it for Larry?
 
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread David Lutterkort
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 11:13 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 David,
 
 congratulations to the new release.
 
 Just a comment I cannot see the new release on the website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/
 Should't it be updated together with the release?

Yes, this was a case of the mail servers being way faster than the
mirroring scripts. It's there now.

 Then I think it is not very good to send the /dist folder link around,
 because to my knowledge it is bypassing the mirror system. Instead we
 usually use some kind of download page generator.

Sorry, that was an oversight on my part. I'll replace the links with
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/deltacloud/ in the
future.

 At your website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
 I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
 fedorahost for the code.

The very first link (Official releases can be downloaded from the
Apache website) on that page goes to
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/ Do you see a different
version of the page ?

David



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
David,

 At your website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
 I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
 fedorahost for the code.

 The very first link (Official releases can be downloaded from the
 Apache website) on that page goes to
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/ Do you see a different
 version of the page ?

Ah, very small, now I see it :-)

But:
You can get the source code:
git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/deltacloud/libdeltacloud.git

Slowly I begin to understand this is a non-apache package, correct?
otherwise I would expect the link to an ASF git mirror instead

Cheers


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread David Lutterkort
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:42 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 David,
 
  At your website:
  http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
  I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
  fedorahost for the code.
 
  The very first link (Official releases can be downloaded from the
  Apache website) on that page goes to
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/ Do you see a different
  version of the page ?
 
 Ah, very small, now I see it :-)
 
 But:
 You can get the source code:
 git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/deltacloud/libdeltacloud.git
 
 Slowly I begin to understand this is a non-apache package, correct?
 otherwise I would expect the link to an ASF git mirror instead

Yeah, I think we need to tweak the stylesheet. The 'Additional Tools'
header doesn't stand out enough, and doesn't make it clear that this is
additional stuff, only related to, and not part of, the Apache project.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Deltacloud 0.4.1 (incubating)

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 12 October 2011 17:39, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 11:13 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 David,

 congratulations to the new release.

 Just a comment I cannot see the new release on the website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/
 Should't it be updated together with the release?

 Yes, this was a case of the mail servers being way faster than the
 mirroring scripts. It's there now.

It's normally best to wait 24 hours or so after posting files to allow
mirrors to catch up.

 Then I think it is not very good to send the /dist folder link around,
 because to my knowledge it is bypassing the mirror system. Instead we
 usually use some kind of download page generator.

 Sorry, that was an oversight on my part. I'll replace the links with
 http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/deltacloud/ in the
 future.

 At your website:
 http://incubator.apache.org/deltacloud/download.html
 I read nothing of how to get the release. Instead I am send to
 fedorahost for the code.

 The very first link (Official releases can be downloaded from the
 Apache website) on that page goes to
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/ Do you see a different
 version of the page ?

 David



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Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-12 Thread sebb
On 11 October 2011 21:34, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
 (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
 response only to general@incubator)

 Hello;

 As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
 the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.

 Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
 they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
 willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
 and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
 though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
 incubation process themselves.

 http://www.beanshell.org/

 I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
 AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
 to the ASF.

Also JMeter.

It would be great to have BeanShell as an ASF project.

 Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
 take the lead in an incubation process?

I'd certainly be interested in helping as a committer, and could act
as a Mentor.

 best regards,

 Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Felix Meschberger
+1 (binding)

Regards
Felix

Am 11.10.2011 um 23:09 schrieb Jukka Zitting:

 Hi,
 
 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!
 
 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.
 
 Please VOTE:
 
   [ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
   [ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...
 
 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.
 
 Thanks! My vote is +1.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 
 
 
 Apache Callback Proposal
 
 
 Abstract
 
 
 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
 
 Proposal
 
 
 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.
 
 Background
 --
 
 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.
 
 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.
 
 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser APIs.
 
 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.
 
 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.
 
 Rationale
 -
 
 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.
 
 Initial Goals
 -
 
 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
 Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
 tests and related infrastructure.
 
 Current Status
 --
 
 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.
 
 Meritocracy
 ---
 
 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.
 
 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.
 
 Community
 -
 
 The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
 and with all levels of proficiency in software development---the 

Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Struberg
I think the maven-invoker-plugin also uses Beanshell for scripting the 
verification.

LieGrue,
strub



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 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:14 PM
 Subject: Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?
 
 On 11 October 2011 21:34, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
  (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
  response only to general@incubator)
 
  Hello;
 
  As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
  the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.
 
  Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
  they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
  willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
  and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
  though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
  incubation process themselves.
 
  http://www.beanshell.org/
 
  I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
  AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
  to the ASF.
 
 Also JMeter.
 
 It would be great to have BeanShell as an ASF project.
 
  Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
  take the lead in an incubation process?
 
 I'd certainly be interested in helping as a committer, and could act
 as a Mentor.
 
  best regards,
 
  Pedro.
 
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Re: [SITE] Samples of site with different CSS settings

2011-10-12 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote:
 I've uploaded the current site to my pao directory:
 
 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/incubator/
 
 This was created using a reworked site.vsl that creates relative links
 where possible, so the LH menu should work OK
 
 the directories are:
 
 current - as for existing CSS files
 
 bootstrap - css files as per original commit of bootstrap
 
 I can easily create other samples with different CSS files for comparison.

Thanks for your efforts.

-David

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[DISCUSS] Graduation of Deltacloud to TLP

2011-10-12 Thread David Lutterkort
Hi all,

the Deltacloud community and mentors feel that we are ready to graduate
to a toplevel Apache project.

A while ago, we held a vote on the deltacloud-dev mailing list[1] about
graduation, with 8 +1 votes (2 from mentors) and no 0 or -1 votes[2].

Since we started incubation, we've made 4 releases and added 3 new
contributors[3]

We would like to move the process of graduation forward; to that end, I
would like feedback on the draft resolution (included below) and,
assuming the discussion doesn't turn up any absolute blockers, call for
a vote for the IPMC on this list on 2011-10-17.

cheers,
David

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-deltacloud-dev/201108.mbox/%3c1313190921.5165.4.ca...@avon.watzmann.net%3E
[2] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-deltacloud-dev/201109.mbox/%3c1316040219.17880.34.ca...@avon.watzmann.net%3E
[3] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/deltacloud.html

Draft resolution:

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software implementing web service API's for interacting
with cloud providers, and corresponding client libraries, for
distribution at no charge to the public.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the Apache Deltacloud Project, be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to web
service API's for interacting with cloud providers, and corresponding
client libraries; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Deltacloud be and hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Deltacloud Project,
and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within
the scope of responsibility of the Apache Deltacloud Project; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Deltacloud
Project:

  * Marios Andreou (mar...@apache.org)
  * Michal Fojtik  (mfoj...@apache.org)
  * Jim Jagielski  (j...@apache.org)
  * Chris Lalancette   (clala...@apache.org)
  * David Lutterkort   (lut...@apache.org)
  * Sang-Min Park  (sp...@apache.org)
  * Eric Woods (wood...@apache.org)

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that David Lutterkort be
appointed to the office of Vice President, Deltacloud, to serve in
accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
development and increased participation in the Deltacloud Project; and
be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
Deltacloud podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Deltacloud podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
hereafter discharged.



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[SITE] navigation

2011-10-12 Thread David Crossley
The Incubator website has many documentation pages and sections.

It is especially important for incoming projects to be able
to easily navigate our documentation quagmire. Of course also
important for Mentors.

Some other aspects of our site navigation are already being
addressed. Thanks.

Another aspect that needs attention is the recent changes
to link colours, which have removed the ability to know
where one has been.

It is important to be able to know which parts of the
documentation have already been visited.

If we need to change from the default blue, then so be it.
However, the visited colour needs to be a *different* colour,
not the same as a not-yet-visited link.


References:

[1] The Site map
http://incubator.apache.org/sitemap.html

[2] Incubation Policy
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html

[3] Incubation Guides
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/

[3] Assist with Incubation Steps
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#steps

-David

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