Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:

 For a release tagged with the incubating
 label and disclaimer, filing bugs rather than blocking seems reasonable.


I may have edited away more than you like but yes - filing bugs rather
than blocking is the approach we should try using more, much more. All
that stuff about putting the foundation at risk seems vastly over stated -
are there any examples at all ever where the foundation has come to any
harm from a duff release? The release voting is to make the release a
collective action of the foundation to protect individuals not to protect
the foundation.

I'm curious what others think.  There's room for us to disagree, since
 release
 votes do not require consensus...


Podling release voting is one of the most problematic areas of the
Incubator and has been for years. Its the disagreement over whats required
that tosses podlings about with one person saying they must do one thing
and others something else, and it puts off mentors from voting in case
they're made to look like they don't know what they're doing. So I think we
should try to find some consensus on approach rather than agreeing to
disagree,

   ...ant


Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Upayavira
This has a good feel about it. Clearer, with flexibility.

We should probably be clear about *who* can relax the rules, because
again this could become a fighting ground amongst 180 of us.

As to putting the foundation at risk - breaching someone else's
copyright does that. Breaching the foundation's policies doesn't.

Upayavira

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013, at 05:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:50 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  And the Incubator _is_ different and does have different policy and
  rules, hence on occasion podlings being permitted to do releases which
  include GPL dependencies while Incubating and just fixing those up as
  a graduation requirement.
 
 Over in another thread[1], Bertrand came up with a thoughtful
 formulation:
 
 I have no problem with clear and documented decisions to relax some
 of
 the release checklist criteria for an incubating release, as long as
 that doesn't put the foundation at risk.
 
 That's more lenient than either my inconsequential test or Benson's
 materiality, but it provides something else: a framework inside which
 the Incubator may bend the rules.  It had been hard for me to understand
 how
 we could justify exercising discretion about policy, given the
 Incubator's
 obligations as an ordinary Apache TLP, but perhaps document how this
 problem
 doesn't put the Foundation at risk is something I can get behind.
 
 I expect that an incubating release with a GPL dependency would have
 necessitated the approval of VP Legal Affairs, right?  That would fit
 inside
 Bertrand's framework.
 
 Similarly, licensing documentation bugs such as extra garbage in NOTICE
 or
 the occasional missing ALv2 header do not put the foundation at risk --
 or
 put our downstream users at risk.  For a release tagged with the
 incubating
 label and disclaimer, filing bugs rather than blocking seems reasonable.
 
 I'm curious what others think.  There's room for us to disagree, since
 release
 votes do not require consensus...
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
 [1] http://s.apache.org/r1F
 
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Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Marvin,

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
 I also went another round on the Manifest template and the Release Procedure
 section of the guide (not yet committed): https://paste.apache.org/a1ya ...

Looks good to me but why it must be approved by a Mentor (who must
also be an Apache Member ?

We do have mentors who are not members, and that's fine IMO.

-Bertrand

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Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
 ...Next, I will start a PROPOSAL thread, to
 re-engage with the rest of the list...

There's been ample space for people to comment on this in the last few
weeks, I'd be clear that we don't expect any core changes we agree on
the final proposal in this thread. Tweaks and typos, fine, the rest
has been extensively discussed so far, let's avoid restarting from the
top ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Alex Harui


On 12/11/13 9:51 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:


I'm curious what others think.  There's room for us to disagree, since
release
votes do not require consensus...
That's the part I've found curious.  There's no whistleblower provision
for someone who thinks they see something that puts the foundation at risk
from stopping those to don't see it.  Certainly, quality is subjective and
thus consensus is too strict, but the process we use to get a consensus
veto to change seems appropriate if a -1 vote is based on a foundation/law
issue.  Some of our policies do have wiggle room, but I don't think all of
them do.

-Alex


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Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Doug Cutting
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 There's no whistleblower provision
 for someone who thinks they see something that puts the foundation at risk
 from stopping those to don't see it.


If there's a clear legal problem with a release candidate I'd expect others
to acknowledge it and cancel the vote.  If they don't then that could be
escalated to the Incubator PMC.

Doug


Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi St.Ack,

I haven't seen that this vote has closed.

Craig

On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Stack wrote:

 Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original
 posting on November 7th.  Feedback has been incorporated.
 
 Let us now move to a vote.
 
 Should Phoenix become an Apache incubator project?
 
 [] +1 Accept Phoenix into the Incubator
 [] +0 Don't care whether or which
 [] -1 Do not accept Phoenix into the Incubator because...
 
 The latest version of the proposal can be found here [1].  It is
 also posted below for your convenience.
 
 Let the vote run 72 hours.
 
 Thank you,
 St.Ack
 
 1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PhoenixProposal
 
 
 
 
 Abstract
 
 Phoenix is an open source SQL query engine for Apache HBase, a NoSQL data
 store. It is accessed as a JDBC driver and enables querying and managing
 HBase tables using SQL.
 
 Proposal
 
 Phoenix is an open source SQL skin over HBase delivered as a
 client-embedded JDBC driver targeting low latency queries over HBase data.
 Phoenix takes your SQL query, compiles it into a series of HBase scans, and
 orchestrates the running of those scans to produce regular JDBC result
 sets. The table metadata is stored in an HBase table and versioned, such
 that snapshot queries over prior versions will automatically use the
 correct schema. Direct use of the HBase API, along with coprocessors and
 custom filters, results in performance on the order of milliseconds for
 small queries, or seconds for tens of millions of rows. Phoenix interfaces
 with both Pig and Map-reduce for the input and output of data.
 
 Background
 
 Phoenix initially started as an internal project at Salesforce.com to
 efficiently analyze big data stored in HBase. It was open sourced on Github
 about a year ago in Jan 2013. Over time Phoenix, together with HBase as the
 storage tier, has begun to evolve into a general SQL database with support
 for metadata management, secondary indexes, joins, query optimization, and
 multi-tenancy. This is expected to continue as Phoenix implements a
 cost-based query optimizer and potentially transaction support, and
 surfaces new HBase security features such as encryption and cell-level
 security. Phoenix's developer community has also grown to include
 additional companies such as Intel, who have contributed join support to
 Phoenix, as well as Hortonworks, who are in the process of porting Phoenix
 to the 0.96 release of HBase.
 
 Rationale
 
 As usage and the number of contributors to Phoenix has grown, we have
 sought for a long-term home for the project, and we believe the Apache
 foundation would be a great fit. Joining Apache would ensure that tried and
 true processes and procedures are in place for the growing number of
 organizations interested in contributing to Phoenix. Phoenix is also a good
 fit for the Apache foundation: Phoenix already interoperates with several
 existing Apache projects (HBase, Hadoop, Pig, BigTop). The Phoenix team is
 familiar with the Apache process and and believes in the Apache mission -
 the team already includes multiple Apache committers.
 
 Initial Goals
 
 The initial goals will be to move the existing codebase to Apache and
 integrate with the Apache development process. Once this is accomplished,
 we plan for incremental development and releases that follow the Apache
 guidelines.
 
 Current Status
 
 Phoenix has undergone two major and three minor releases (1.0, 1.1, 1.2,
 2.0, and 2.1) as well as many patch releases. Phoenix is being used in
 production by Salesforce.com as well as at other organizations. The Phoenix
 codebase is currently hosted at github.com, which will form the basis of
 the Apache git repository.
 
 Meritocracy
 
 The Phoenix project already operates on meritocratic principles. Phoenix
 has several developers from various organizations outside of Salesforce.com
 who have contributed major new features. While this process has remained
 mostly informal, as we do not have an official committer list, an implicit
 organization exists in which individuals who contribute major components
 act as maintainers for those modules. If accepted, the Phoenix project
 would include several of these participants as initial committers. We will
 work to identify all committers and PPMC members for the project and to
 operate under the ASF meritocratic principles.
 
 Community
 
 Acceptance into the Apache foundation would bolster the already strong user
 and developer community around Phoenix. That community includes many
 contributors from various other companies, and an active mailing list
 composed of hundreds of users.
 
 Core Developers
 
 The core developers of our project are listed in our contributors and
 initial PPMC below. Though many are employed at Salesforce.com, there is a
 representative cross sampling of other organizations including Intel,
 Hortonworks, and Cloudera.
 
 Alignment
 
 Our proposed Phoenix effort aligns closely with Apache HBase. The HBase
 project 

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-12 Thread James Taylor
Hi Craig,
Does this constitute closing the vote:
*http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201312.mbox/%3CCADcMMgHzeJJ7Vi-bSWGqb16j44cSEz9Svov%3D5L4LKctzBQ3_xw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201312.mbox/%3CCADcMMgHzeJJ7Vi-bSWGqb16j44cSEz9Svov%3D5L4LKctzBQ3_xw%40mail.gmail.com%3E*
 ?

Thanks,
James


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:

 Hi St.Ack,

 I haven't seen that this vote has closed.

 Craig

 On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Stack wrote:

  Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original
  posting on November 7th.  Feedback has been incorporated.
 
  Let us now move to a vote.
 
  Should Phoenix become an Apache incubator project?
 
  [] +1 Accept Phoenix into the Incubator
  [] +0 Don't care whether or which
  [] -1 Do not accept Phoenix into the Incubator because...
 
  The latest version of the proposal can be found here [1].  It is
  also posted below for your convenience.
 
  Let the vote run 72 hours.
 
  Thank you,
  St.Ack
 
  1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PhoenixProposal
 
 
 
 
  Abstract
 
  Phoenix is an open source SQL query engine for Apache HBase, a NoSQL data
  store. It is accessed as a JDBC driver and enables querying and managing
  HBase tables using SQL.
 
  Proposal
 
  Phoenix is an open source SQL skin over HBase delivered as a
  client-embedded JDBC driver targeting low latency queries over HBase
 data.
  Phoenix takes your SQL query, compiles it into a series of HBase scans,
 and
  orchestrates the running of those scans to produce regular JDBC result
  sets. The table metadata is stored in an HBase table and versioned, such
  that snapshot queries over prior versions will automatically use the
  correct schema. Direct use of the HBase API, along with coprocessors and
  custom filters, results in performance on the order of milliseconds for
  small queries, or seconds for tens of millions of rows. Phoenix
 interfaces
  with both Pig and Map-reduce for the input and output of data.
 
  Background
 
  Phoenix initially started as an internal project at Salesforce.com to
  efficiently analyze big data stored in HBase. It was open sourced on
 Github
  about a year ago in Jan 2013. Over time Phoenix, together with HBase as
 the
  storage tier, has begun to evolve into a general SQL database with
 support
  for metadata management, secondary indexes, joins, query optimization,
 and
  multi-tenancy. This is expected to continue as Phoenix implements a
  cost-based query optimizer and potentially transaction support, and
  surfaces new HBase security features such as encryption and cell-level
  security. Phoenix's developer community has also grown to include
  additional companies such as Intel, who have contributed join support to
  Phoenix, as well as Hortonworks, who are in the process of porting
 Phoenix
  to the 0.96 release of HBase.
 
  Rationale
 
  As usage and the number of contributors to Phoenix has grown, we have
  sought for a long-term home for the project, and we believe the Apache
  foundation would be a great fit. Joining Apache would ensure that tried
 and
  true processes and procedures are in place for the growing number of
  organizations interested in contributing to Phoenix. Phoenix is also a
 good
  fit for the Apache foundation: Phoenix already interoperates with several
  existing Apache projects (HBase, Hadoop, Pig, BigTop). The Phoenix team
 is
  familiar with the Apache process and and believes in the Apache mission -
  the team already includes multiple Apache committers.
 
  Initial Goals
 
  The initial goals will be to move the existing codebase to Apache and
  integrate with the Apache development process. Once this is accomplished,
  we plan for incremental development and releases that follow the Apache
  guidelines.
 
  Current Status
 
  Phoenix has undergone two major and three minor releases (1.0, 1.1, 1.2,
  2.0, and 2.1) as well as many patch releases. Phoenix is being used in
  production by Salesforce.com as well as at other organizations. The
 Phoenix
  codebase is currently hosted at github.com, which will form the basis of
  the Apache git repository.
 
  Meritocracy
 
  The Phoenix project already operates on meritocratic principles. Phoenix
  has several developers from various organizations outside of
 Salesforce.com
  who have contributed major new features. While this process has remained
  mostly informal, as we do not have an official committer list, an
 implicit
  organization exists in which individuals who contribute major components
  act as maintainers for those modules. If accepted, the Phoenix project
  would include several of these participants as initial committers. We
 will
  work to identify all committers and PPMC members for the project and to
  operate under the ASF meritocratic principles.
 
  Community
 
  Acceptance into the Apache foundation would bolster the already strong
 

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-12 Thread Stack
Pardon me Craig.  I messed up the closing of the vote.  I resent the vote
tally later w/ appropriate title:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201312.mbox/%3CCADcMMgHzeJJ7Vi-bSWGqb16j44cSEz9Svov%3D5L4LKctzBQ3_xw%40mail.gmail.com%3E

St.Ack


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:

 Hi St.Ack,

 I haven't seen that this vote has closed.

 Craig

 On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Stack wrote:

  Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original
  posting on November 7th.  Feedback has been incorporated.
 
  Let us now move to a vote.
 
  Should Phoenix become an Apache incubator project?
 
  [] +1 Accept Phoenix into the Incubator
  [] +0 Don't care whether or which
  [] -1 Do not accept Phoenix into the Incubator because...
 
  The latest version of the proposal can be found here [1].  It is
  also posted below for your convenience.
 
  Let the vote run 72 hours.
 
  Thank you,
  St.Ack
 
  1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PhoenixProposal
 
 
 
 
  Abstract
 
  Phoenix is an open source SQL query engine for Apache HBase, a NoSQL data
  store. It is accessed as a JDBC driver and enables querying and managing
  HBase tables using SQL.
 
  Proposal
 
  Phoenix is an open source SQL skin over HBase delivered as a
  client-embedded JDBC driver targeting low latency queries over HBase
 data.
  Phoenix takes your SQL query, compiles it into a series of HBase scans,
 and
  orchestrates the running of those scans to produce regular JDBC result
  sets. The table metadata is stored in an HBase table and versioned, such
  that snapshot queries over prior versions will automatically use the
  correct schema. Direct use of the HBase API, along with coprocessors and
  custom filters, results in performance on the order of milliseconds for
  small queries, or seconds for tens of millions of rows. Phoenix
 interfaces
  with both Pig and Map-reduce for the input and output of data.
 
  Background
 
  Phoenix initially started as an internal project at Salesforce.com to
  efficiently analyze big data stored in HBase. It was open sourced on
 Github
  about a year ago in Jan 2013. Over time Phoenix, together with HBase as
 the
  storage tier, has begun to evolve into a general SQL database with
 support
  for metadata management, secondary indexes, joins, query optimization,
 and
  multi-tenancy. This is expected to continue as Phoenix implements a
  cost-based query optimizer and potentially transaction support, and
  surfaces new HBase security features such as encryption and cell-level
  security. Phoenix's developer community has also grown to include
  additional companies such as Intel, who have contributed join support to
  Phoenix, as well as Hortonworks, who are in the process of porting
 Phoenix
  to the 0.96 release of HBase.
 
  Rationale
 
  As usage and the number of contributors to Phoenix has grown, we have
  sought for a long-term home for the project, and we believe the Apache
  foundation would be a great fit. Joining Apache would ensure that tried
 and
  true processes and procedures are in place for the growing number of
  organizations interested in contributing to Phoenix. Phoenix is also a
 good
  fit for the Apache foundation: Phoenix already interoperates with several
  existing Apache projects (HBase, Hadoop, Pig, BigTop). The Phoenix team
 is
  familiar with the Apache process and and believes in the Apache mission -
  the team already includes multiple Apache committers.
 
  Initial Goals
 
  The initial goals will be to move the existing codebase to Apache and
  integrate with the Apache development process. Once this is accomplished,
  we plan for incremental development and releases that follow the Apache
  guidelines.
 
  Current Status
 
  Phoenix has undergone two major and three minor releases (1.0, 1.1, 1.2,
  2.0, and 2.1) as well as many patch releases. Phoenix is being used in
  production by Salesforce.com as well as at other organizations. The
 Phoenix
  codebase is currently hosted at github.com, which will form the basis of
  the Apache git repository.
 
  Meritocracy
 
  The Phoenix project already operates on meritocratic principles. Phoenix
  has several developers from various organizations outside of
 Salesforce.com
  who have contributed major new features. While this process has remained
  mostly informal, as we do not have an official committer list, an
 implicit
  organization exists in which individuals who contribute major components
  act as maintainers for those modules. If accepted, the Phoenix project
  would include several of these participants as initial committers. We
 will
  work to identify all committers and PPMC members for the project and to
  operate under the ASF meritocratic principles.
 
  Community
 
  Acceptance into the Apache foundation would bolster the already strong
 user
  and developer community around Phoenix. That community includes many
  contributors from various 

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-12 Thread Craig L Russell
All ok.

Regards,

Craig

On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Stack wrote:

 Pardon me Craig.  I messed up the closing of the vote.  I resent the vote
 tally later w/ appropriate title:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201312.mbox/%3CCADcMMgHzeJJ7Vi-bSWGqb16j44cSEz9Svov%3D5L4LKctzBQ3_xw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 
 St.Ack
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Craig L Russell
 craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:
 
 Hi St.Ack,
 
 I haven't seen that this vote has closed.
 
 Craig
 
 On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Stack wrote:
 
 Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original
 posting on November 7th.  Feedback has been incorporated.
 
 Let us now move to a vote.
 
 Should Phoenix become an Apache incubator project?
 
 [] +1 Accept Phoenix into the Incubator
 [] +0 Don't care whether or which
 [] -1 Do not accept Phoenix into the Incubator because...
 
 The latest version of the proposal can be found here [1].  It is
 also posted below for your convenience.
 
 Let the vote run 72 hours.
 
 Thank you,
 St.Ack
 
 1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PhoenixProposal
 
 
 
 
 Abstract
 
 Phoenix is an open source SQL query engine for Apache HBase, a NoSQL data
 store. It is accessed as a JDBC driver and enables querying and managing
 HBase tables using SQL.
 
 Proposal
 
 Phoenix is an open source SQL skin over HBase delivered as a
 client-embedded JDBC driver targeting low latency queries over HBase
 data.
 Phoenix takes your SQL query, compiles it into a series of HBase scans,
 and
 orchestrates the running of those scans to produce regular JDBC result
 sets. The table metadata is stored in an HBase table and versioned, such
 that snapshot queries over prior versions will automatically use the
 correct schema. Direct use of the HBase API, along with coprocessors and
 custom filters, results in performance on the order of milliseconds for
 small queries, or seconds for tens of millions of rows. Phoenix
 interfaces
 with both Pig and Map-reduce for the input and output of data.
 
 Background
 
 Phoenix initially started as an internal project at Salesforce.com to
 efficiently analyze big data stored in HBase. It was open sourced on
 Github
 about a year ago in Jan 2013. Over time Phoenix, together with HBase as
 the
 storage tier, has begun to evolve into a general SQL database with
 support
 for metadata management, secondary indexes, joins, query optimization,
 and
 multi-tenancy. This is expected to continue as Phoenix implements a
 cost-based query optimizer and potentially transaction support, and
 surfaces new HBase security features such as encryption and cell-level
 security. Phoenix's developer community has also grown to include
 additional companies such as Intel, who have contributed join support to
 Phoenix, as well as Hortonworks, who are in the process of porting
 Phoenix
 to the 0.96 release of HBase.
 
 Rationale
 
 As usage and the number of contributors to Phoenix has grown, we have
 sought for a long-term home for the project, and we believe the Apache
 foundation would be a great fit. Joining Apache would ensure that tried
 and
 true processes and procedures are in place for the growing number of
 organizations interested in contributing to Phoenix. Phoenix is also a
 good
 fit for the Apache foundation: Phoenix already interoperates with several
 existing Apache projects (HBase, Hadoop, Pig, BigTop). The Phoenix team
 is
 familiar with the Apache process and and believes in the Apache mission -
 the team already includes multiple Apache committers.
 
 Initial Goals
 
 The initial goals will be to move the existing codebase to Apache and
 integrate with the Apache development process. Once this is accomplished,
 we plan for incremental development and releases that follow the Apache
 guidelines.
 
 Current Status
 
 Phoenix has undergone two major and three minor releases (1.0, 1.1, 1.2,
 2.0, and 2.1) as well as many patch releases. Phoenix is being used in
 production by Salesforce.com as well as at other organizations. The
 Phoenix
 codebase is currently hosted at github.com, which will form the basis of
 the Apache git repository.
 
 Meritocracy
 
 The Phoenix project already operates on meritocratic principles. Phoenix
 has several developers from various organizations outside of
 Salesforce.com
 who have contributed major new features. While this process has remained
 mostly informal, as we do not have an official committer list, an
 implicit
 organization exists in which individuals who contribute major components
 act as maintainers for those modules. If accepted, the Phoenix project
 would include several of these participants as initial committers. We
 will
 work to identify all committers and PPMC members for the project and to
 operate under the ASF meritocratic principles.
 
 Community
 
 Acceptance into the Apache foundation would bolster the already strong
 user
 and developer community around Phoenix. That community includes many
 contributors from 

Changing moderation settings

2013-12-12 Thread Nathan Marz
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[ANNOUNCE] Billie Rinaldi joins the IPMC

2013-12-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Apache Member Billie Rinaldi, the PMC Chair for Accumulo and a member of the
Ambari PMC, has elected to join the Incubator PMC.

May you have as much success as an IPMC member as you had as a PPMC member of
the Accumulo podling!

Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC

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2013-12-12 Thread Doug Cutting
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   triggered by JIRA). Is there a way to whitelist accounts, turn off
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Billie Rinaldi joins the IPMC

2013-12-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Welcome Billie!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 12, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com 
 wrote:
 
 Apache Member Billie Rinaldi, the PMC Chair for Accumulo and a member of the
 Ambari PMC, has elected to join the Incubator PMC.
 
 May you have as much success as an IPMC member as you had as a PPMC member of
 the Accumulo podling!
 
 Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC
 
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Re: Changing moderation settings

2013-12-12 Thread Jake Farrell
You can also allow with

dev-allow-subscribe-jira=apache@storm.incubator.apache.org

-Jake


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:

 You shouldn't need to subscribe jira to your list.  Rather just 'allow' a
 message by using reply-all to a moderation request so that all future posts
 from that sender are accepted.

 Doug


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 pei.c...@childrens.harvard.eduwrote:

  dev-subscribe-jira=apache@storm.incubator.apache.org
 
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   Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:37 PM
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   I believe a moderator can add jira to the subscription...
   Something like:
   Send request email and confirm sent to storm-dev-subscribe-
   jira=apache@incubator.apache.org
  
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache VXQuery 0.2-incubating released

2013-12-12 Thread Till Westmann
The Apache VXQuery (incubating) Team is happy to announce the first
release of Apache VXQuery, 0.2-incubating.

Apache VXQuery will be a standards compliant XML Query processor
implemented in Java. The focus is on the evaluation of queries on large
amounts of XML data. Specifically the goal is to evaluate queries on
large collections of relatively small XML documents. To achieve this
queries are evaluated on a cluster of shared nothing machines.

More information about the project can be found at

  http://incubator.apache.org/vxquery/

The release is available at

  http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/vxquery/

and the sha1 checksum for

  apache-vxquery-0.2-incubating-source-release.zip

is

  f07fe151ddea24457c6497a1abd48528f9c02462

The Apache VXQuery Team would like to hear from you and welcomes
your comments and contributions.

Thanks
The Apache VXQuery Team


Re: Changing moderation settings

2013-12-12 Thread David Crossley
Nathan Marz wrote:
 How can I change the moderation settings for the Storm user and dev lists?
 I'm getting enormous amounts of moderation emails (including lots triggered
 by JIRA). Is there a way to whitelist accounts, turn off moderation, and/or
 approve in bulk (like via a web interface)?

Some tips are at:

http://apache.org/dev/#mail
http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate

-David

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Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-12 Thread Dave Fisher

On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 Hi Marvin,
 
 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com 
 wrote:
 I also went another round on the Manifest template and the Release Procedure
 section of the guide (not yet committed): https://paste.apache.org/a1ya ...
 
 Looks good to me but why it must be approved by a Mentor (who must
 also be an Apache Member ?

Another rule is better than my straw man. Marvin really missed my point - which 
was 3 IPMC is the way it is done and I don't see a need to change. (Yes I know 
podlings can't get release votes ... with this rule I will lay odds we will 
start to see active -1 VOTEs from IPMC members on releases when there is any 
flaw. With the rule of VOTE at 3 +1 and the rest at 1 +1.)

I think we have to have a way for IPMC members to VOTE -1 on releases after the 
first...

 
 We do have mentors who are not members, and that's fine IMO.

Yes it is. It is very fine.

I LIKE this process in all aspects except this change in the 3 +1 from the IPMC 
rule. Can the VOTE separate the two experiments?

(1) Vote +1/-1 for the Release Verification Checklist experiment

(2) Vote +1/-1 for the 1 +1 Mentor/IPMC for releases after the first release by 
a podling.

Regards,
Dave


 
 -Bertrand
 
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Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Ted Dunning
A point which is often missed by new comers is that votes aren't final
until they vote closes and is tallied.

That allows a vote that uncovers a serious defect to trigger a bunch of
defecting votes (if the vote isn't just canceled)


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

  There's no whistleblower provision
  for someone who thinks they see something that puts the foundation at
 risk
  from stopping those to don't see it.
 

 If there's a clear legal problem with a release candidate I'd expect others
 to acknowledge it and cancel the vote.  If they don't then that could be
 escalated to the Incubator PMC.

 Doug



Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Another rule is better than my straw man. Marvin really missed my point -
 which was 3 IPMC is the way it is done and I don't see a need to change.

I was fooled, yes.

Since there's no compromise that would secure your vote, I'll go with my best
judgment and require that the manifest be approved by a Mentor (without the
ASF Member requirement).  We could further relax it to
approval-by-an-IPMC-Member, but such an approval would be inferior in the same
way that a non-Mentor's freelance +1 is inferior under the current system.

 I LIKE this process in all aspects except this change in the 3 +1 from the
 IPMC rule. Can the VOTE separate the two experiments?

So...

*   Ant likes the voting rule change, but is opposed to the checklist.
*   Dave likes the checklist but is opposed to the voting rule change.

Sigh.

There's no reason to have a VOTE on the checklist alone unless we want to make
it mandatory: podlings have to fill it out in order to release, but IPMC
members remain free to ignore it when they vote.  Such an initiative seems
unlikely to pass.

Dave, if we can't arrive at a consensus compromise, even for authorizing an
experiment, that's unfortunate -- but as with Ant, I'm grateful for our
give-and-take and I believe that the proposal is much improved for it.

Marvin Humphrey

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