Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
Hi, On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...- How can RocketMQ work with the existing Kafka or ActiveMQ communities to > build cross platform clients? > - How can RocketMQ look to leverage Cassandra, Geode, Derby as backend > persistence stores?... It would be wrong to require a podling to create specific modules so that it plays better with other Apache projects. I'm not saying you are suggesting this John, but the above questions could be interpreted like that. The ASF doesn't have a technical roadmap and doesn't influence our project's technical direction - besides requirements for being serious about security and quality as per http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html What's important IMO is whether the new podling is ready to accept contributions from other Apache projects that enable things like mentioned in the above questions. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:08 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > ...- How can RocketMQ work with the existing Kafka or ActiveMQ > communities to > > build cross platform clients? > > - How can RocketMQ look to leverage Cassandra, Geode, Derby as backend > > persistence stores?... > > It would be wrong to require a podling to create specific modules so > that it plays better with other Apache projects. I'm not saying you > are suggesting this John, but the above questions could be interpreted > like that. > > This question has already been clarified a second time for the proposal. Luke seems to have a handle on it and has made notions to update the proposal to sound less competitive and focus on what we typically see in this area. John > The ASF doesn't have a technical roadmap and doesn't influence our > project's technical direction - besides requirements for being serious > about security and quality as per > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > What's important IMO is whether the new podling is ready to accept > contributions from other Apache projects that enable things like > mentioned in the above questions. > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
Hi, Guys: I have revised a little about RocketMQ proposal, adding some text to focus our design attention about RocketMQ. Also, we have removed some mistakenly imported dependency. IMO, we are ready to accept contributions from other Apache projects 😊 Thanks every apacher's advice and help, We have reason to believe RocketMQ is walking towards a more healthy and more active direction~ Best regards~ from Von Gosling 2016-11-07 18:55 GMT+08:00 John D. Ament : > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:08 AM Bertrand Delacretaz > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, John D. Ament > > wrote: > > > ...- How can RocketMQ work with the existing Kafka or ActiveMQ > > communities to > > > build cross platform clients? > > > - How can RocketMQ look to leverage Cassandra, Geode, Derby as backend > > > persistence stores?... > > > > It would be wrong to require a podling to create specific modules so > > that it plays better with other Apache projects. I'm not saying you > > are suggesting this John, but the above questions could be interpreted > > like that. > > > > > This question has already been clarified a second time for the proposal. > Luke seems to have a handle on it and has made notions to update the > proposal to sound less competitive and focus on what we typically see in > this area. > > John > > > > The ASF doesn't have a technical roadmap and doesn't influence our > > project's technical direction - besides requirements for being serious > > about security and quality as per > > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > maturity-model.html > > > > What's important IMO is whether the new podling is ready to accept > > contributions from other Apache projects that enable things like > > mentioned in the above questions. > > > > -Bertrand > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > -- Nothing is impossible
Re: Please grant wiki write access for me
I've added you, happy editing. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:08 PM BonoLv wrote: > My incubator wiki user name is "BonoLv" . Please grant write access > permission for me . > > Thx. >
Re: Request to join Incubator PMC
I sent notice. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:02 PM Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Hi, > I (apache ID "niclas") would like to rejoin the Incubator PMC. > > Thanks > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java >
[VOTE] Release Apache Streams 0.4-incubating
Hi Incubator PMC, The Apache Streams community has voted and approved the proposal to release Apache Streams 0.4 (incubating). We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members to review and vote on this incubator release. PPMC and IPMC feedback received during rc1 and rc2 votes (respectively) have been addressed with rc3. Thread [VOTE] : https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4ad0b6889fb61738209ba464e30dcc67d74ddacf60e820992dee83ab@%3Cdev.streams.apache.org%3E Thread [VOTE] [RESULT] : https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4ad0b6889fb61738209ba464e30dcc67d74ddacf60e820992dee83ab@%3Cdev.streams.apache.org%3E   The Release candidate to be voted upon is 0.4-incubating release candidate (rc3), with the following artifacts up for a vote: incubator-streams-master source tag (r0.4-incubating): https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-streams-master.git;h=b87b23b19649dbd17a26f43aac3e51358d7e2b32 incubator-streams source tag (r0.4-incubating): https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-streams.git;h=fc51194bcf44328759961dd1ee95df0b829fe98f incubator-streams-examples source tag (r0.4-incubating): https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-streams-examples.git;h=5cfcc2511a714922cdbc8b15f9cec5a3170f4162 Maven staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachestreams-1019 Source releases: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/streams/0.4-incubating/streams-master-0.4-incubating-source-release.zip https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/streams/0.4-incubating/streams-project-0.4-incubating-source-release.zip https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/streams/0.4-incubating/streams-examples-0.4-incubating-source-release.zip Checksums of streams-master-0.4-incubating-source-release.zip: MD5: 182ed359685f35d950df3ba631d7d5e1 SHA1: 3cf0110f6a1abd7160ae40088d35ce1d9b581ac0 Checksums of streams-project-0.4-incubating-source-release.zip: MD5: 5321f8c3f470d464a6f354d8b624c726 SHA1: ea294756549569e1a9392db362f3e3b33adc9dc1 Checksums of streams-examples-0.3-incubating-source-release.zip: MD5: e7af881128418f3a782bf90d669348cb SHA1: f53abf0cd23e72f85b9877db7624df8f2e706f6c Release artifacts are signed with the following key: https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/sblackmon.asc Note that Maven 3.3.9 and JDK 1.8+ are now required, and that MAVEN_OPTS should set the java heap to at least 2G for best results. These repositories must be built and installed locally in the right order: first streams-master, then streams-project, finally streams-examples. To see the full set of steps used to validate and perform the release candidate, and review the output of each step, visit this public wiki page. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/0.4-incubating+rc3+release+logs  Note that to execute the full suite of integration tests, one must first prepare a testing environment with docker databases and working credentials to all providers. Vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1 --Mark On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator because... > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > > > public, related to a data management platform that provides > > > > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > > > > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > > > > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > > > > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > > Apache Geode Project: > > > > > > > > * Anilkumar Gingade > > > > * Anthony Baker > > > > * Ashvin Agrawal > > > > * Avinash Dongre > > > > * Barry Oglesby < bogle...@apache.org> > > > > * Bruce Schuchardt > > > > * Dan Smith > > > > * Darrel Schneider > > > > * Dave Barnes > > > > * Eric Shu > > > > * Greg Chase > > > > * Hitesh Khamesra > > > > * Jason Huynh > > > > * Jens Deppe > > > > * Jianxia Chen > > > > * Jinmei Liao > > > > * John Blum > > > > * Karen Miller > > > > * Konstantin Boudnik > > > > * Kirk Lund > > > > * Mark Bretl > > > > * Nabarun Nag > > > > * Niall Pemberton > > > > * Nitin Lamba > > > > * Roman Shaposhnik > > > > * Sai Boorlagadda > > > > * Swapnil Bawaskar > > > > * Udo Kohlmeyer > > > > * William Markito > > > > * Xiaojian Zhou > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mark Bretl > > > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Geode, to > > > > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > > > > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > > > > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > > > > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Geode PMC be and hereby is > > > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > > > Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby > > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > > Incubator Geode podling; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > > > Incubator Geode podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > > > Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sergio Fernández > > Partner Technology Manager > > Redlink GmbH > > m: +43 6602747925 >
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1 On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl wrote: > +1 > > --Mark > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator because... > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > > > > public, related to a data management platform that provides > > > > > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > > > > > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > > > > > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > > > > > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > > > Apache Geode Project: > > > > > > > > > > * Anilkumar Gingade > > > > > * Anthony Baker > > > > > * Ashvin Agrawal > > > > > * Avinash Dongre > > > > > * Barry Oglesby < bogle...@apache.org> > > > > > * Bruce Schuchardt > > > > > * Dan Smith > > > > > * Darrel Schneider > > > > > * Dave Barnes > > > > > * Eric Shu > > > > > * Greg Chase > > > > > * Hitesh Khamesra > > > > > * Jason Huynh > > > > > * Jens Deppe > > > > > * Jianxia Chen > > > > > * Jinmei Liao > > > > > * John Blum > > > > > * Karen Miller > > > > > * Konstantin Boudnik > > > > > * Kirk Lund > > > > > * Mark Bretl > > > > > * Nabarun Nag > > > > > * Niall Pemberton > > > > > * Nitin Lamba > > > > > * Roman Shaposhnik > > > > > * Sai Boorlagadda > > > > > * Swapnil Bawaskar > > > > > * Udo Kohlmeyer > > > > > * William Markito > > > > > * Xiaojian Zhou > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mark Bretl > > > > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Geode, to > > > > > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > > > > > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > > > > > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > > > > > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Geode PMC be and hereby is > > > > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > > > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > > > > Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby > > > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > > > Incubator Geode podling; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > > > > Incubator Geode podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > > > > Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > > > > > > > -
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1! On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl wrote: > > > +1 > > > > --Mark > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator because... > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > > > > > public, related to a data management platform that provides > > > > > > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > > > > > > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > > > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > > > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > > > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > > > > > > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > > > > > > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > > > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > > > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > > > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > > > > Apache Geode Project: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Anilkumar Gingade > > > > > > * Anthony Baker > > > > > > * Ashvin Agrawal > > > > > > * Avinash Dongre > > > > > > * Barry Oglesby < bogle...@apache.org> > > > > > > * Bruce Schuchardt > > > > > > * Dan Smith > > > > > > * Darrel Schneider > > > > > > * Dave Barnes > > > > > > * Eric Shu > > > > > > * Greg Chase > > > > > > * Hitesh Khamesra > > > > > > * Jason Huynh > > > > > > * Jens Deppe > > > > > > * Jianxia Chen > > > > > > * Jinmei Liao > > > > > > * John Blum > > > > > > * Karen Miller > > > > > > * Konstantin Boudnik > > > > > > * Kirk Lund > > > > > > * Mark Bretl > > > > > > * Nabarun Nag > > > > > > * Niall Pemberton > > > > > > * Nitin Lamba > > > > > > * Roman Shaposhnik > > > > > > * Sai Boorlagadda > > > > > > * Swapnil Bawaskar > > > > > > * Udo Kohlmeyer > > > > > > * William Markito > > > > > > * Xiaojian Zhou > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mark Bretl > > > > > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Geode, to > > > > > > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > > > > > > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > > > > > > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > > > > > > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Geode PMC be and hereby is > > > > > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > > > > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > > > > > Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby > > > > > > is tasked with the migration and rat
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1 (binding). Great work! ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ ++ On 11/7/16, 10:16 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase" wrote: +1! On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl wrote: > > > +1 > > > > --Mark > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator because... > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > > > > > public, related to a data management platform that provides > > > > > > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > > > > > > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > > > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > > > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > > > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > > > > > > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > > > > > > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > > > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > > > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > > > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > > > > Apache Geode Project: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Anilkumar Gingade > > > > > > * Anthony Baker > > > > > > * Ashvin Agrawal > > > > > > * Avinash Dongre > > > > > > * Barry Oglesby < bogle...@apache.org> > > > > > > * Bruce Schuchardt > > > > > > * Dan Smith > > > > > > * Darrel Schneider > > > > > > * Dave Barnes > > > > > > * Eric Shu > > > > > > * Greg Chase > > > > > > * Hitesh Khamesra > > > > > > * Jason Huynh > > > > > > * Jens Deppe > > > > > > * Jianxia Chen > > > > > > * Jinmei Liao
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
I was looking at Snoot, and some figures jumped at me. Is the Podling (and the IPMC) satisfied that there is no concern with people affiliated with a single company providing more than 90% of all commits over the past year and, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of tickets and email, as well as a 73% stake in the proposed PMC? Is the IPMC satisfied that, should this company opt to not further spend resources on this project, that the project would still be as viable? With regards, Daniel. On 11/07/2016 07:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) wrote: > +1 (binding). Great work! > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) > Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212) > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++ > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > ++ > > > On 11/7/16, 10:16 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase" > wrote: > > +1! > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > --Mark > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator > because... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > > > > > > public, related to a data management platform that provides > > > > > > > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > > > > > > > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > > > > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > > > > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > > > > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > > > > > > > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > > > > > > > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > > > > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > > > > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary > responsibility > > > > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > > > > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be i
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1 On 2016-11-06 12:58 (-0800), Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Hi! > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > and at the IPMC level: > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal vote. > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > [ ] +0 Don't care. > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator because... > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > Resolution: > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > public, related to a data management platform that provides > real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications > throughout widely distributed cloud architectures. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Geode Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > related to a data management platform that provides real-time, > consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout > widely distributed cloud architectures. > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Geode" be > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > of the Apache Geode Project, and to have primary responsibility > for management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility of the Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Geode Project: > > * Anilkumar Gingade > * Anthony Baker > * Ashvin Agrawal > * Avinash Dongre > * Barry Oglesby < bogle...@apache.org> > * Bruce Schuchardt > * Dan Smith > * Darrel Schneider > * Dave Barnes > * Eric Shu > * Greg Chase > * Hitesh Khamesra > * Jason Huynh > * Jens Deppe > * Jianxia Chen > * Jinmei Liao > * John Blum > * Karen Miller > * Konstantin Boudnik > * Kirk Lund > * Mark Bretl > * Nabarun Nag > * Niall Pemberton > * Nitin Lamba > * Roman Shaposhnik > * Sai Boorlagadda > * Swapnil Bawaskar > * Udo Kohlmeyer > * William Markito > * Xiaojian Zhou > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mark Bretl > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Geode, to > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Geode PMC be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > encourage open development and increased participation in the > Apache Geode Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Geode Project be and hereby > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > Incubator Geode podling; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Incubator Geode podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > Project are hereafter discharged. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] OpenWhisk Proposal
Awesome. Let me in. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote: > Hi all > > I have made some additions to the OpenWhisk Proposal [1]: > > - restructured the API Gateway references: It is expected >that the API Gateway will be refactored with additional >code donated by IBM during incubation. > - added a note on the API Gateway’s dependency on OpenSSL > - added a note on Trademarks IBM is currently pursuing and >intends to transfer to ASF > - fixed some typos > > With these changes and no discussions over the course of the recent weeks, I > would propose we could could vote for OpenWhisk to become an incubating > project over the course of next weeks. > > Of course we are still open to welcome interested people to become initial > committers to OpenWhisk Servlerless Runtime and API Gateway ! > > WDYT ? > > Regards > Felix > > [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWhiskProposal > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
Hi, As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra Admin has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. I ask now: 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). Thanks. Cheers, Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
With regard to the second question I hope the ultimate decision still rests with Greg. This idea is fairly new and some baby steps are in order before opening the floodgates. IMO On Monday, November 7, 2016, Chris Mattmann wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > Admin > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > I ask now: > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
It does, Joe, but the IPMC needs to decide whether to even *ask* ... It is an entirely reasonable position to say that focusing primary development at GitHub could hurt some aspect of ASF-style community building, and (thus) the IPMC does not want to allow that. Infra will start with OpenWhisk (if it becomes a podling and the IPMC agrees with its plan). We'll examine if/how to expand the experiment to future podlings, as requested. So with my IPMC hat on: +1 to both. With my Infra hat on: +1 has already been given to #1. #2 is TBD. Cheers, -g On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > With regard to the second question I hope the ultimate decision still rests > with Greg. This idea is fairly new and some baby steps are in order before > opening the floodgates. > > IMO > > On Monday, November 7, 2016, Chris Mattmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now > has > > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > > Admin > > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > > > I ask now: > > > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
I am +1 on both as well. My understanding is that there was an LDAP hurdle. Has that been resolved? On Mon, Nov 7, 2016, 15:24 Chris Mattmann wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > Admin > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > I ask now: > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
Reading the other thread on this it seems it has not yet. Let me know if any external to infra help is wanted. Thanks. On Mon, Nov 7, 2016, 16:29 Phil Sorber wrote: > I am +1 on both as well. My understanding is that there was an LDAP > hurdle. Has that been resolved? > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016, 15:24 Chris Mattmann wrote: > > Hi, > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > Admin > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > I ask now: > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Looking for a mentor for Gossip and Rya
Hi Folks! Sadly, other commitments in my life require that I step down the amount of volunteer time I spend on the ASF. I had originally thought that I'd still have time for mentoring the two podlings I've been involved with (Gossip and Rya), but it doesn't look that way. As such, I'm hoping someone on general@ might be convinced to step up in either case. My need to step aside should not reflect on the podlings themselves; they're both doing just fine for where they are in terms of project maturity. If the particular technology aims matter: Apache Gossip (incubating) is creating a foundational library for distributed systems to use the gossip protocol to make peer-to-peer networks. It's written in Java. Apache RYA (incubating) is an RDF triple store built on top of sparse key-value stores (specifically Apache Accumulo is currently the robust exemplar implementation). It is also written (mostly) in Java. I'd say Rya is farther along the path to graduation, but neither podling is particularly demanding in terms of kinds-of or amounts-of attention required. Anyone interested in transitioning onto one or both? -busbey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Phil Sorber wrote: > I am +1 on both as well. My understanding is that there was an LDAP hurdle. > Has that been resolved? LDAP is tens of hours worth of work - total. And I volunteered to do the bulk of the initial effort. Frankly, it is more of a timing consideration than either a cost or risk consideration. There will be unanticipated breakage (probably mostly in tools like the phone book, various whimsy tools, and ponymail) but those should be identified and fixable quickly. The right time seems to be shortly after people return from ACEU, so probably early December. - Sam Ruby > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016, 15:24 Chris Mattmann wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has >> requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra >> Admin >> has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. >> >> I ask now: >> >> 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? >> 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? >> >> I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). >> >> Thanks. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
I'm +0.5 for this right now. There's some challenges I would like to see answered to be able to move forward on this. - Who controls the ACLs? I have some strong opinions of the ACL. Specifically, when the podling joins the incubator, I expect that the "OpenWhisk" organization be handed over to us, and all non-IPMC members are removed. Once we receive ICLAs members are granted access back. Or the equivalent - we create a new "ApacheOpenWhisk" organization. - All committers who are in the "incubator" group are granted write access to OpenWhisk - the ASF still needs to maintain records of the revision history. I would like to understand the plan to provide this history. I'm not very comfortable with a policy that allows podlings to do things they can't do as TLPs. This is setting up for major delays in graduation. John On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:23 PM Chris Mattmann wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > Admin > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > I ask now: > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:10 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > I'm +0.5 for this right now. There's some challenges I would like to see > answered to be able to move forward on this. > > - Who controls the ACLs? I have some strong opinions of the ACL. > Specifically, when the podling joins the incubator, I expect that the > "OpenWhisk" organization be handed over to us, and all non-IPMC members are > removed. Once we receive ICLAs members are granted access back. Or the > equivalent - we create a new "ApacheOpenWhisk" organization. > > - All committers who are in the "incubator" group are granted write access > to OpenWhisk I have strong opinions on this subject too, and they don't match yours. It happens. :-) As one of the member of the IPMC, I would very much like to see podlings set up *EXACTLY* like PMCs, albeit with oversight by mentors. That means non-IPMC members are NOT removed, and committers in the "incubator" group are NOT added, only mentors. That being said, as the person who volunteered to set up LDAP for podlings, I will set aside my preference in favor of the consensus of the IPMC. Logistically, however, giving every member of the incubator group write access to an existing GitHub repository would be a nightmare. Granting mentors (a much smaller set) would be a smaller set. > - the ASF still needs to maintain records of the revision history. I would > like to understand the plan to provide this history. Here's an example: https://matt.apache.org/pushlogs.html?repo=whimsy > I'm not very comfortable with a policy that allows podlings to do things > they can't do as TLPs. This is setting up for major delays in graduation. The goal, for quite some time now, has been to resolve GitHub as a Master one way or another. It is time to do so. If the conclusion is that GitHub as a Master is not to be, OpenWhisk will need to be migrated at that time. Until then, there is no reason to migrate it only to potentially migrate it back. > John - Sam Ruby > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:23 PM Chris Mattmann wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has >> requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra >> Admin >> has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. >> >> I ask now: >> >> 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? >> 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? >> >> I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). >> >> Thanks. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:30 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:10 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > I'm +0.5 for this right now. There's some challenges I would like to see > > answered to be able to move forward on this. > > > > - Who controls the ACLs? I have some strong opinions of the ACL. > > Specifically, when the podling joins the incubator, I expect that the > > "OpenWhisk" organization be handed over to us, and all non-IPMC members > are > > removed. Once we receive ICLAs members are granted access back. Or the > > equivalent - we create a new "ApacheOpenWhisk" organization. > > > > - All committers who are in the "incubator" group are granted write > access > > to OpenWhisk > > I have strong opinions on this subject too, and they don't match > yours. It happens. :-) > And I honestly wouldn't want them to match. In my opinion, for this to happen, we need to finish up the LDAP work, allowing each podling to be given a separate permission set. I would generally prefer that approach. > > As one of the member of the IPMC, I would very much like to see > podlings set up *EXACTLY* like PMCs, albeit with oversight by mentors. > That means non-IPMC members are NOT removed, and committers in the > "incubator" group are NOT added, only mentors. > I'm a bit iffy here. IMHO, we cannot leave existing accounts in place on the organization, as we won't have ICLAs on file (except for a few who already exist I bet). What I don't want to see is the PPMC, for non-IPMC members, be given the ability to grant committer privileges to the repo without having an ICLA on file. > > That being said, as the person who volunteered to set up LDAP for > podlings, I will set aside my preference in favor of the consensus of > the IPMC. Logistically, however, giving every member of the incubator > group write access to an existing GitHub repository would be a > nightmare. Granting mentors (a much smaller set) would be a smaller > set. > > > - the ASF still needs to maintain records of the revision history. I > would > > like to understand the plan to provide this history. > > Here's an example: > > https://matt.apache.org/pushlogs.html?repo=whimsy > > > I'm not very comfortable with a policy that allows podlings to do things > > they can't do as TLPs. This is setting up for major delays in > graduation. > > The goal, for quite some time now, has been to resolve GitHub as a > Master one way or another. It is time to do so. If the conclusion is > that GitHub as a Master is not to be, OpenWhisk will need to be > migrated at that time. Until then, there is no reason to migrate it > only to potentially migrate it back. > > > John > > - Sam Ruby > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:23 PM Chris Mattmann > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now > has > >> requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > >> Admin > >> has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > >> > >> I ask now: > >> > >> 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > >> 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > >> > >> I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
Hi, I’d like my name be added to be a Mentor to the project. Assuming the project is willing to have me that is :-) Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > I was looking at Snoot, and some figures jumped at me. > > Is the Podling (and the IPMC) satisfied that there is no concern with > people affiliated with a single company providing more than 90% of all > commits over the past year and, as far as I can tell, the vast majority > of tickets and email, as well as a 73% stake in the proposed PMC? > > Is the IPMC satisfied that, should this company opt to not further spend > resources on this project, that the project would still be as viable? > Hi Daniel, I've observed this project since it joined the incubator and they've worked hard to create an open and welcoming community and to fix all the issues raised that could be barriers to their graduation. In terms of percentages, these things have been debated previously in graduation of projects such as Ignite, Flume, Tez etc and I'm not going to repeat the arguments from those discussions. Geode would be better with served with a wider community, but I think what matters is 1) have they demonstrated the behaviors we expect and 2) are they moving in the right direction. Geode is a great community and a pleasure to be involved with and I would say yes to both of these. I believe they are going in the right direction to make this project less dependent on one company and except to change the percentages you've pointed out, theres no purpose left for them being in the incubator. They've shown that they can manage themselves and theres enough independent oversight to mitigate concerns which is why I think we should vote for them to graduate. Niall > > With regards, > Daniel. > > On 11/07/2016 07:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) wrote: > > +1 (binding). Great work! > > > > ++ > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) > > Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212) > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502 > > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > ++ > > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > > ++ > > > > > > On 11/7/16, 10:16 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase" < > gch...@gmail.com on behalf of g...@gregchase.com> wrote: > > > > +1! > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > --Mark > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre < > adon...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández < > wik...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > > > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" < > ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal > vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator > because... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the > support, > > > > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the > best > > > > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > > > > open-source s
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1! On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > I was looking at Snoot, and some figures jumped at me. > > > > Is the Podling (and the IPMC) satisfied that there is no concern with > > people affiliated with a single company providing more than 90% of all > > commits over the past year and, as far as I can tell, the vast majority > > of tickets and email, as well as a 73% stake in the proposed PMC? > > > > Is the IPMC satisfied that, should this company opt to not further spend > > resources on this project, that the project would still be as viable? > > > > Hi Daniel, > > I've observed this project since it joined the incubator and they've worked > hard to create an open and welcoming community and to fix all the issues > raised that could be barriers to their graduation. > > In terms of percentages, these things have been debated previously in > graduation of projects such as Ignite, Flume, Tez etc and I'm not going to > repeat the arguments from those discussions. Geode would be better with > served with a wider community, but I think what matters is 1) have they > demonstrated the behaviors we expect and 2) are they moving in the right > direction. Geode is a great community and a pleasure to be involved with > and I would say yes to both of these. I believe they are going in the right > direction to make this project less dependent on one company and except to > change the percentages you've pointed out, theres no purpose left for them > being in the incubator. They've shown that they can manage themselves and > theres enough independent oversight to mitigate concerns which is why I > think we should vote for them to graduate. > > Niall > > > > > > > With regards, > > Daniel. > > > > On 11/07/2016 07:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) wrote: > > > +1 (binding). Great work! > > > > > > ++ > > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > > Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) > > > Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212) > > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > > Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502 > > > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > > ++ > > > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > > > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > > > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > > > ++ > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/16, 10:16 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase" < > > gch...@gmail.com on behalf of g...@gregchase.com> wrote: > > > > > > +1! > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > --Mark > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre < > > adon...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández < > > wik...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > > > > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" < > > ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode community > > > > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a formal > > vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate > > > > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator > > because... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the > > support, > > > > > > > > > Roman (on behalf of the Apache Geode PPMC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Geode Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS,
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)
+1 Thks Amol On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Nitin Lamba wrote: > +1! > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Niall Pemberton > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Daniel Gruno > wrote: > > > > > I was looking at Snoot, and some figures jumped at me. > > > > > > Is the Podling (and the IPMC) satisfied that there is no concern with > > > people affiliated with a single company providing more than 90% of all > > > commits over the past year and, as far as I can tell, the vast majority > > > of tickets and email, as well as a 73% stake in the proposed PMC? > > > > > > Is the IPMC satisfied that, should this company opt to not further > spend > > > resources on this project, that the project would still be as viable? > > > > > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > I've observed this project since it joined the incubator and they've > worked > > hard to create an open and welcoming community and to fix all the issues > > raised that could be barriers to their graduation. > > > > In terms of percentages, these things have been debated previously in > > graduation of projects such as Ignite, Flume, Tez etc and I'm not going > to > > repeat the arguments from those discussions. Geode would be better with > > served with a wider community, but I think what matters is 1) have they > > demonstrated the behaviors we expect and 2) are they moving in the right > > direction. Geode is a great community and a pleasure to be involved with > > and I would say yes to both of these. I believe they are going in the > right > > direction to make this project less dependent on one company and except > to > > change the percentages you've pointed out, theres no purpose left for > them > > being in the incubator. They've shown that they can manage themselves and > > theres enough independent oversight to mitigate concerns which is why I > > think we should vote for them to graduate. > > > > Niall > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > Daniel. > > > > > > On 11/07/2016 07:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) wrote: > > > > +1 (binding). Great work! > > > > > > > > ++ > > > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > > > Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010) > > > > Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office > (8212) > > > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > > > Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502 > > > > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > > > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > > > ++ > > > > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > > > > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > > > > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > > > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > > > > ++ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/16, 10:16 AM, "gch...@gmail.com on behalf of Greg Chase" < > > > gch...@gmail.com on behalf of g...@gregchase.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > +1! > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Nabarun Nag > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:11 AM Mark Bretl > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > --Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Avinash Dongre < > > > adon...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Sergio Fernández < > > > wik...@apache.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good luck, guys! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, John D. Ament < > > > > > johndam...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 15:58, "Roman Shaposhnik" < > > > ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after a very positive discussion in the Geode > community > > > > > > > > > > and at the IPMC level: > > > > > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/z4prj62hr7rn6cu6 > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to bring the following resolution for a > formal > > > vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on the resolution pasted below to > graduate > > > > > > > > > > Apache Geode from the incubator to top level project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator. > > > > > > > > > > [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > > > > > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Geode from the Incubator > > > because... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - November 2016
All, Not a lot has changed in the podling report. We still have 7 podlings missing sign off from mentors. Please review your podlings quickly and provide them feedback. John On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:22 AM John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > Please find the current board report below. As usual I've done my best to > categorize podlings, but please feel free to edit the report and make > changes as fit. > > I added two new categories for it this month - podlings that seem to have > become stagnant, and podlings that seem to have completed all steps > required to graduate (would be good to run the maturity model against them). > > We still have a few reports requiring sign off - so please mentors review > and sign off: > > Toree > Sirona > Metron > Joshua > Hivemall > Fineract > DistributedLog > DataFu > Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer > > > - John > > > > --- > > Incubator PMC report for November 2016 > > The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and > codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts. > > There are currently 63 podlings incubating - no change from last month. > The Geode podling has begun discussions around graduation. There were two > new IPMC members added this past month. The IPMC approved 17 releases this > month as well. > > * Community > > New IPMC members: > > - Felix Meschberger > - Stephan Ewen > > People who left the IPMC: > > - None > > * New Podlings > > - None > > * Graduations > > The board has motions for the following: > > - None > > * Releases > > The following releases entered distribution during the month of > October: > > - Apache Unomi1.1.0-incubating 2016-10-03 > - Apache Impala 2.7.0-incubating 2016-10-04 > - Apache Fluo 1.0.0-incubating 2016-10-05 > - Apache Htrace 4.2.0-incubating 2016-10-07 > - Apache PredictionIO 0.10.0-incubating2016-10-07 > - Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating 2016-10-09 > - Apache HAWQ 2.0.0.0-incubating 2016-10-10 > - Apache CarbonData 0.1.1-incubating 2016-10-11 > - Apache Metron 0.2.1BETA-incubating 2016-10-13 > - Apache Geode1.0.0-incubating 2016-10-15 > - Apache Mnemonic 0.3.0-incubating 2016-10-21 > - Apache Juneau 6.0.0-incubating 2016-10-24 > - Apache Fineract 0.4.0-incubating 2016-10-25 > - Apache Fluo Recipes 1.0.0-incubating 2016-10-27 > - Apache Rya 3.2.10-incubating2016-10-28 > - Apache S2Graph 0.1.0-incubating 2016-10-30 > - Apache Beam 0.3.0-incubating 2016-10-31 > > > * IP Clearance > > - None > > * Legal / Trademarks > > - Incoming podlings are pushing more for GitHub as master approaches. > - In addition, the usage of GitHub Issues continues to be asked. > - Better alignment between all impacted parties is needed for both of > these. > > * Infrastructure > > - While the loss of a server is never convenient, the report manager > gives huge kudos to the infra team for replacing the moin-moin wiki server > quickly, avoiding much impact on this months report. > > * Miscellaneous > > - None > > * Credits > > - Report Manager: John D. Ament > > Summary of podling reports > > * Still getting started at the Incubator > > - AriaTosca > - Guacamole > - Hivemall > - iota > - NetBeans > - Spot > - Toree > > > * Not yet ready to graduate > > Stagnant: > > - Metron > - Sirona > > No release: > > - Blur > - Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer > - DistributedLog > - Edgent > - Joshua > > > Community growth: > > - DataFu > - Fineract > - Fluo > - Impala > - PredictionIO > - S2Graph > - Streams > - Unomi > > > * Potentially Ready to Graduate > > - BatchEE > - Beam > - CarbonData > - Eagle > - Geode > - Slider > - SystemML > - Tamaya > > * Did not report, expected next month > > - Annotator > > -- >Table of Contents > AriaTosca > Beam > Blur > CarbonData > Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer > DataFu > DistributedLog > Eagle > Edgent > Fineract > Fluo > Guacamole > Hivemall > Impala > iota > Joshua > Metron > NetBeans > PredictionIO > S2Graph > Sirona > Slider > Spot > Streams > SystemML > Tamaya > Toree > Unomi > > -- > > > AriaTosca > > ARIA TOSCA project offers an easily consumable Software Development > Kit(SDK) > and a Command Line Interface(CLI) to implement TOSCA(Topology and > Orchestration Specification of Cloud Applications) based solutions. > > AriaTosca has been incubating since 2016-08-27. > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: > >1. Finalize migration of existing ARIA code, including Parser-NG with > TOSCA and TOSCA for NFV profi
Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
Justin: welcome you join our mentor list ~😊 Best Regards, Von Gosling 2016-11-08 10:53 GMT+08:00 Justin Mclean : > Hi, > > I’d like my name be added to be a Mentor to the project. Assuming the > project is willing to have me that is :-) > > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Nothing is impossible
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 8:45 PM, John D. Ament wrote: >... > > As one of the member of the IPMC, I would very much like to see > > podlings set up *EXACTLY* like PMCs, albeit with oversight by mentors. > > That means non-IPMC members are NOT removed, and committers in the > > "incubator" group are NOT added, only mentors. > > > > I'm a bit iffy here. IMHO, we cannot leave existing accounts in place on > the organization, as we won't have ICLAs on file (except for a few who > already exist I bet). What I don't want to see is the PPMC, for non-IPMC > members, be given the ability to grant committer privileges to the repo > without having an ICLA on file. > Well, this is a bunch of technical bits that Infra will take care of, to ensure that we meet the needs defined by Legal Affairs, when operating under "GitHub as Master". I believe the IPMC *policy* point is more about community, rather than these considerations. I'm comfortable we can meet Legal's needs before/for graduation (tho I can't give a timeframe). The outstanding question is whether we're being *asked* to do so. If IPMC defines some additional requirements that we haven't foreseen (eg. every IPMC members gets commit on the podling), then we can figure out the feasibility. Cheers, -g
Re: [DISCUSS] RocketMQ Incubation Proposal
Welcome Justin, that's really great:) Thanks. luke Best Regards! - Luke Han On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:07 PM, vongosling wrote: > Justin: > > welcome you join our mentor list ~😊 > > Best Regards, > > Von Gosling > > 2016-11-08 10:53 GMT+08:00 Justin Mclean : > > > Hi, > > > > I’d like my name be added to be a Mentor to the project. Assuming the > > project is willing to have me that is :-) > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > Nothing is impossible >
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
+1 to both in principle (yay), but with admin access not initially given to podling committers; as that could encourage "business as usual" for adding friends&family as committers without a vote. So I agree that the transition of the existing repositories need to be handled well. On 7 Nov 2016 10:23 pm, "Chris Mattmann" wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now has > requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra > Admin > has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it. > > I ask now: > > 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk? > 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings? > > I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on). > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
