Re: [VOTE] Accept PredictionIO into the Apache Incubator

2016-05-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
de
> repo
> >> (docs/manual directory), is built with Middleman, and publicly hosted at
> >> https://docs.prediction.io
> >>
> >> Initial Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >>
> >> Currently, the PredictionIO codebase is distributed under the Apache 2.0
> >> License and hosted on GitHub:
> https://github.com/PredictionIO/PredictionIO
> >>
> >> External Dependencies
> >>
> >> PredictionIO has the following external dependencies:
> >>  * Apache Hadoop 2.4.0 (optional, required only if YARN and HDFS are
> >> needed)
> >>  * Apache Spark 1.3.0 for Hadoop 2.4
> >>  * Java SE Development Kit 8
> >>  * and one of the following sets:
> >>* PostgreSQL 9.1
> >>  or
> >>* MySQL 5.1
> >>  or
> >>* Apache HBase 0.98.6
> >>* Elasticsearch 1.4.0
> >>
> >> Upon acceptance to the incubator, we would begin a thorough analysis of
> >> all transitive dependencies to verify this information and introduce
> >> license checking into the build and release process by integrating with
> >> Apache RAT.
> >>
> >> Cryptography
> >>
> >> PredictionIO does not include cryptographic code. We utilize standard
> >> JCE and JSSE APIs provided by the Java Runtime Environment.
> >>
> >> Required Resources
> >>
> >> We request that following resources be created for the project to use
> >>
> >> Mailing lists
> >>
> >>   predictionio-priv...@incubator.apache.org (with moderated
> subscriptions)
> >>   predictionio-dev
> >>   predictionio-user
> >>   predictionio-commits
> >>
> >>   We will migrate the existing PredictionIO mailing lists.
> >>
> >> Git repository
> >>
> >>   The PredictionIO team would like to use Git for source control, due to
> >> our
> >>   current use of GitHub.
> >>
> >>   git://git.apache.org/incubator-predictionio
> >>
> >> Documentation
> >>
> >>   https://predictionio.incubator.apache.org/docs/
> >>
> >> JIRA instance
> >>
> >>   PredictionIO currently uses the GitHub issue tracking system
> associated
> >>   with its repository:
> https://github.com/PredictionIO/PredictionIO/issues
> >> .
> >>   We will migrate to Apache JIRA.
> >>
> >>   JIRA PREDICTIONIO
> >>   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PREDICTIONIO
> >>
> >> Other Resources
> >>
> >>   TravisCI for builds and test running.
> >>
> >>   PredictionIO's documentation, included in the code repo (docs/manual
> >>   directory), is built with Middleman and publicly hosted at
> >>   https://docs.prediction.io
> >>
> >>   A blog to drive adoption and excitement at https://blog.prediction.io
> >>
> >> Initial Committers
> >>
> >>   Pat Ferrell
> >>   Tamas Jambor
> >>   Justin Yip
> >>   Xusen Yin
> >>   Lee Moon Soo
> >>   Donald Szeto
> >>   Kenneth Chan
> >>   Tom Chan
> >>   Simon Chan
> >>   Marco Vivero
> >>   Matthew Tovbin
> >>   Yevgeny Khodorkovsky
> >>   Felipe Oliveira
> >>   Vitaly Gordon
> >>   Alex Merritt
> >>
> >> Affiliations
> >>
> >>   Pat Ferrell - ActionML
> >>   Tamas Jambor - Channel4
> >>   Justin Yip - independent
> >>   Xusen Yin - USC
> >>   Lee Moon Soo - NFLabs
> >>   Donald Szeto - Salesforce
> >>   Kenneth Chan - Salesforce
> >>   Tom Chan - Salesforce
> >>   Simon Chan - Salesforce
> >>   Marco Vivero - Salesforce
> >>   Matthew Tovbin - Salesforce
> >>   Yevgeny Khodorkovsky - Salesforce
> >>   Felipe Oliveira - Salesforce
> >>   Vitaly Gordon - Salesforce
> >>   Alex Merritt - ActionML
> >>
> >> Sponsors
> >>
> >> Champion
> >>
> >>   Andrew Purtell 
> >>
> >> Nominated Mentors
> >>
> >>   Andrew Purtell 
> >>   James Taylor 
> >>   Lars Hofhansl 
> >>   Suneel Marthi 
> >>   Xiangrui Meng 
> >>   Luciano Resende 
> >>
> >> Sponsoring Entity
> >>
> >>   Apache Incubator PMC
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >>- Andy
> >>
> >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> >> (via Tom White)
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

2015-01-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
 of our
   tools, which should markedly increase with the contribution of the
 ATT
   code. Where can I get an open source PDP? and where can I get an
   open source policy editor? are frequent questions on XACML mailing
   lists.
   
Inexperience with Open Source
   
While few of the developers have extensive experience with open
   source, a number of us have long experience in standards making in
 open
   consensus-based environments. For example the XACML TC has operated
   since 2001 based on consensus building, with few, if any votes which
   were not unanimous. The main challenge to the project will be managing
   the process with more participants and a more formal process.
   
Homogeneous Developers
   
Currently all the contributors are employees either of companies
   offering an XACML product or large end users deploying XACML
 technology
   for internal use. The positive aspect is that they are all highly
   experienced senior developers used to operating in a disciplined
   environment. The disadvantage is that the focus to date has mostly
 been
   problems that arise in large scale environments typified by the
   infrastructure of large corporations.
   
Reliance on Salaried Developers
   
All current committers are salaried developers. However the
   organizations they work for have a long term commitment to the
   technology. We hope that in the Apache foundation we will be able to
   attract new developers to help us address the many fascinating
 unsolved
   technological problems associated with deploying ABAC.
   
Relationship with other Apache Projects
   
As far as we can determine, no existing Apache project overlaps with
   OpenAz in its goals of the technology developed so far. However,
 beyond
   the immediate project goals there are many potential opportunities for
   integration with existing Apache projects. Shiro, Turbine and WSS4J
 are
   Java frameworks which could incorporate XACML as the policy language
   using OpenAz components. Manifold CF, Qpid and Archiva already have
   hooks to incorporate external access control systems.
   
An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
   
We hope that becoming an Apache project will not only attract new
   participants to OpenAz, but will draw attention to the neglected field
   of access control. As previously stated it has always been our goal to
   join Apache, the only question was when the time was ripe.
   
Documentation
   
The OpenAz web site is:
   
http://www.openliberty.org/wiki/index.php/OpenAz_Main_Page
   
Java docs can be found here:
   
   
  
 http://openaz.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openaz/trunk/openaz/test/doc/
index.html
   
Initial Source
   
The AzAPI, PEPAPI and other related code can be found on
 sourceforge:
   
http://openaz.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openaz/
   
ATT's framework can be found on github:
   
https://github.com/att/XACML
   
Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
   
All the OpenAz code has been submitted under the Apache 2.0 license.
   The ATT software is available under the MIT license. Over time the
   project will move to a single license.
   
External Dependencies
   
There aren't any we are aware of.
   
Cryptography
   
OpenAz does not provide any cryptographic capabilities. The XACML
   Standard does specify some uses of cryptography directly, e.g. digital
   signatures over policies and others by implication, e.g.
 authentication
   via cryptography.
   
Required Resources
   
Mailing lists
   
The standard lists should be sufficient at the current time.The
   mailing list name will be openaz.
   
Git Directory
   
We propose:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-openaz.git
   
Issue Tracking
   
The project will use JIRA for issue tracking.
   
Initial Committers
   
Rich Levinson Hal Lockhart Prateek Mishra David Laurance Duanhua Tu
Ajith Nair Srijith Nair Pam Dragosh Chris Rath
   
Affiliations
   
Rich Levinson, Hal Lockhart and Prateek Mishra work for Oracle.
 David
   Laurance, Duanhua Tu and Ajith Nair work for JP Morgan-Chase. Srijith
   Nair works for Axiomatics. Pam Dragosh and Chris Rath work for ATT.
   
Sponsors
   
Champion
   
Paul Fremantle
   
Nominated Mentors
   
Emmanuel Lécharny Colm O hEigeartaigh Hadrian Zbarcea
   
Sponsoring Entity
   
The Sponsoring Entity will be the Incubator.
   
   
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Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenAZ as new Incubator project

2014-11-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
You can treat me as Paul Free?mantle in regex form.

Paul

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:59 AM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think so.

 There's a few things that you want to iron out first, before people start
 voting on this.

 - 3 is generally the minimum number of mentors.
 - I can't find a Paul Freemantle on the apache committers list.  There's
 a Paul Fremantle, minor spelling difference.
 - You may want to review this section to get a better understanding of the
 goals: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#formulating

 the Discuss option just helps everyone look at your proposal a little bit
 better and determine if there's any gotchas.  For example, I'm surprised to
 see a new incubator project using SVN.

 - Can you list out your issue tracking preference (should probably be JIRA
 unless you need something else)
 - Please also explicitly list the mailing lists your want.

 John

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Hal Lockhart hal.lockh...@oracle.com
 wrote:

  So you want me to repost the proposal with the Subject changed to start
  with [DISCUSS]? Or should I simply reference the wiki page?
 
  Hal
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John D. Ament [mailto:john.d.am...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:03 PM
   To: general@incubator.apache.org
   Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenAZ as new Incubator project
  
   Hal,
  
   Per customs, would you mind if we cancel this and start with a
   [DISCUSS] thread about OpenAZ?  It's unclear if you meant this to be a
   vote or something.
  
   John
  
   On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Hal Lockhart hal.lockh...@oracle.com
 
   wrote:
  
Abstract
   
OpenAz is a project to create tools and libraries to enable the
development of Attribute-based Access Control (ABAC) Systems in a
variety of languages. In general the work is at least consistent with
or actually conformant to the OASIS XACML Standard.
   
Proposal
   
Generally the work falls into two categories: ready to use tools
   which
implement standardized or well understood components of an ABAC
   system
and design proposals and proof of concept code relating to less well
understood or experimental aspects of the problem.
   
Much of the work to date has revolved around defining interfaces
enabling a PEP to request an access control decision from a PDP. The
XACML standard defines an abstract request format in xml and protocol
wire formats in xaml and json, but it does not specify programmatic
   interfaces in any language.
The standard says that the use of XML (or JSON) is not required only
the semantics equivalent.
   
The first Interface, AzAPI is modeled closely on the XACML defined
interface, expressed in Java. One of the goals was to support calls
   to
both a PDP local to the same process and a PDP in a remote server.
AzAPI includes the interface, reference code to handle things like
   the
many supported datatypes in XACML and glue code to mate it to the
   open
source Sun XACML implementation.
   
Because of the dependence on Sun XACML (which is XACML 2.0) the
interface was missing some XACML 3.0 features. More recently this was
corrected and
WSo2 has mated it to their XACML 3.0 PDP. Some work was done by the
JPMC team to support calling a remote PDP. WSo2 is also pursuing this
   capability.
   
A second, higher level interface, PEPAPI was also defined. PEPAPI is
more intended for application developers with little knowledge of
XACML. It allows Java objects which contain attribute information to
   be passed in.
Conversion methods, called mappers extract information from the
objects and present it in the format expected by XACML. Some
implementers have chosen to implement PEPAPI directly against their
   PDP, omitting the use of AzAPI.
Naomaru Itoi defined a C++ interface which closely matches the Java
   one.
   
Examples of more speculative work include: proposals for registration
and dispatch of Obligation and Advice handlers, a scheme called AMF
   to
tell PIPs how to retrieve attributes and PIP code to implement it,
discussion of PoC code to demonstrate the use of XACML policies to
drive OAuth interations and a proposal to use XACML policies to
   express OAuth scope.
   
ATT has recently contributed their extensive XACML framework to the
project.
   
The ATT framework represents the entire XACML 3.0 object set as a
collection of Java interfaces and standard implementations of those
interfaces.  The ATT PDP engine is built on top of this framework
   and
represents a complete implementation of a XACML 3.0 PDP, including
   all
of the multi-decision profiles. In addition, the framework also
contains an implementation of the OASIS XACML 3.0 RESTful API v1.0
   and
XACML JSON Profile v1.0 WD 14. The PEP API includes annotation
functionality, allowing

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-05-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

 +1 - binding


 Regards,
 Alan

 On May 1, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:

  Please VOTE to indicate if Apache Stratos is ready to graduate as a Top
 Level Project. The board resolution is included below.
 
  [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP
  [ ] +0 Don't care.
  [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP because…
 
  Cheers,
  Suresh




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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'd like to add my thanks to the mentors. Very useful and effective and
hard working on behalf of Stratos.

I support this: +1.

Paul


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Afkham Azeez afk...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 from me

 Azeez


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  Since entering Incubation in June 2013, the stratos podling has evolved
  and is now ready to self-govern. The community has extensively debated
  graduation readiness [1] and overwhelmingly voted positively [2]. As far
 as
  I can tell the project status is up to date [3]. The name search has
  concluded with approval [4] and trademark/website/branding  have been
  discussed at various times and the donor (WSO2) has willingly co-operated
  and all queries were satisfactorily resolved (please refer to dev and
  private list discussions).
 
  This thread is to start a IPMC discussion on Stratos TLP readiness and
  identity and address any remaining issues (if exist). Below is the draft
  resolution.
 
  I want to take a tangent and convey my personal appreciation for hands-on
  and diligent mentoring from Noah, Chip and Ant (especially Noah). I have
  learnt some more in the process and I recommend first time mentors to
 surf
  startos lists for precedence.
 
  Cheers,
  Suresh
  (Stratos Mentor)
 
  [1] - http://markmail.org/thread/6tm4bh6rezcxxy45
  [2] - http://markmail.org/message/gqxp7t4ylatfahgz
  [3] - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/stratos.html
  [4] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-45
 
 
  === Board Resolution ==
 
  Establish the Apache Stratos Project
 
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to providing an implementation of a
Platform-as-a-Service Framework.
 
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Stratos Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to providing an implementation of a Platform-as-a-Service
Framework; and be it further
 
 
RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Stratos be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Stratos Project:
 
 Mohammad Nour (mn...@apache.org)
 Ant Elder (antel...@apache.org)
 Paul Fremantle (p...@apache.org   )
 Jonathan Marsh (jonathanma...@apache.org)
 Afkham Azeez (az...@apache.org)
 Peter Linnell (plinn...@apache.org)
 Lakmal Warusawithana (lak...@apache.org)
 Damitha Kumarage (dami...@apache.org)
 Samisa Abeysinghe (sam...@apache.org)
  Nirmal Fernando (nirmal070...@apache.org)
  Sajith Kariyawasam (saj...@apache.org)
 Lahiru Sandaruwan (lahi...@apache.org)
 Isuru Haththotuwa (isu...@apache.org)
  Madhura Mendis (madh...@apache.org)
  Mariangela Hills (mariang...@apache.org)
  Marlon Pierce (mpie...@apache.org)
  Suresh Marru (sma...@apache.org)
  Chip Childers (chipchild...@apache.org)
  Joe Brockmeier (j...@apache.org)
  Noah Slater (nsla...@apache.org)
  Nandana Mihindukulasooriya (nand...@apache.org)
  Isuru Perera (is...@apache.org)
  Reka Thirunavakurussu (r...@apache.org)
  Deepal Jayasinghe (dee...@apache.org)
  Debo Dutta (dedu...@apache.org)
  Udara Liyanage (ud...@apache.org)
  Manula Chathurika Thantriwatte (man...@apache.org)
  Imesh Gunaratne (im...@apache.org)
  Pradeep Fernando (pradee...@apache.org)
  Chris Snow (cs...@apache.org)
  Melan Nimesh (me...@apache.org)
  Jason Daly (jasondaly...@apache.org)
  Chanaka Jayasena (chan...@apache.org)
  Jeffrey Nguyen (jeffr...@apache.org)
  Anh Tu Nguyen (t...@apache.org)
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Lakmal Warusawithana
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board

Re: [VOTE] Accept Brooklyn into the Incubator

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Sergio Fernández 
sergio.fernan...@salzburgresearch.at wrote:

 +1


 On 28/04/14 15:49, Chip Childers wrote:

 Based on the previous discussion of accepting Brooklyn into the Apache
 Incubator as a podling, I'd like to call a vote for this now.

 [ ] +1 Accept Brooklyn into the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Brooklyn
 [ ] -1 Do not accept Brooklyn because...

 The proposal can be found here:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BrooklynProposal

 (For the IPMC members, I believe we typically lock the proposal page
 making it read-only during the voting.  I'm not sure how to do this, or
 if I'm remembering correctly.  Can someone clarify?  I'll watch that
 page to be sure there are no changes during the voting process.)

 -chip

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Re: Finding a Champion

2014-03-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'm also willing to champion this.

Paul


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Le 3/18/14 7:47 PM, Rich Bowen a écrit :
 
  On 03/18/2014 02:40 PM, Hal Lockhart wrote:
  I am a newbie here. I am involved in an open source project called
  OpenAz. It is focus is to provide tools and components for developing
  authorization and access control systems. Our web page (and wiki) is
  here:
 
  http://www.openliberty.org/wiki/index.php/OpenAz_Main_Page
 
  We are using SourceForge for the code. We use the Apache license
  throughout. The project was started in 2009 and was very small
  initially. More recently we have been gaining more momentum and
  participants. We intend to propose to become an Incubator project.
 
  I have looked at the documents and lists and I believe I understand
  how to write the first draft of a Proposal. However, how does one go
  about recruiting a Champion. Does it make sense to draft a proposal
  and then try to attract a Champion to it or is there a better way to
  proceed?
 
 
  This email was a good start.
 
  Also, finding an existing Apache member who's either active in your
  community, or is a user of your stuff, would be a good thing to
  investigate. I see from your website that WSO2 is somehow involved.
  There's several ASF members there.
 
  Failing that, tell us why your project is awesome and why we'd want to
  be involved.
 
 If you don't find a more suitable champion, I'd be please to offer my
 support.

 There is defintively a need for some XACML related project at the ASF.

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 Cordialement,
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Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Ross - huge thanks. Great champion-ing.

Paul


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 Resending with [RESULT] tag as  (reasonably) requested off list - sorry


 On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

  This vote is now closed. The Vote passed.
 
  Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1]
  (note some actions require the support of your mentors).
 
  There are no -1 votes and plenty of both binding and non-binding +1
 votes.
  It is not my intention to tally the votes. I realise it has become
 habitual
  to tally the votes formally, but when there are no -1s and enough binding
  +1s there is little need for this time consuming task.
 
  Of course, if the IPMC want to insist on a tally I will take it upon
  myself to count some beans whilst cursing under my breath about my
  volunteer time being squandered.
 
  Regardless the podling creation process can start - good luck all.
 
  Ross
 
  [1]
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Setting+Up+a+New+Podling
 
 
  On 14 June 2013 22:49, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 
  I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1].
 
  I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter
  the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation
  policy. The acceptance or otherwise of the probationary TLP idea is a
  separate issue that will be explored during the first month of
  incubation, potentially resulting in a further IPMC vote.
 
  This vote is *only* for accepting the Stratos project as a podling.
 
  [ ] +1 Accept the Stratos project as an incubating project
  [ ] +0
  [ ] -1 Do not accept the Stratos project as an incubating project
  because... (provide reason)
 
  It's late on Friday evening here in the UK. I'll let this vote run
  well into next week to allow for the weekend.
 
  Thank you for your votes.
  Ross
 
 
 




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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-15 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 (binding)

Paul


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Indika Kumara indika.k...@gmail.comwrote:

 +1 (non-binding)

 ~ Indika


 On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 wrote:

  I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1].
 
  I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter
  the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation
  policy. The acceptance or otherwise of the probationary TLP idea is a
  separate issue that will be explored during the first month of
  incubation, potentially resulting in a further IPMC vote.
 
  This vote is *only* for accepting the Stratos project as a podling.
 
  [ ] +1 Accept the Stratos project as an incubating project
  [ ] +0
  [ ] -1 Do not accept the Stratos project as an incubating project
  because... (provide reason)
 
  It's late on Friday evening here in the UK. I'll let this vote run
  well into next week to allow for the weekend.
 
  Thank you for your votes.
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Re: Mentor cleanup

2012-05-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
Jukka

Thanks for this. I think you'll find me MIA on some others too. I will talk
to the other mentors and see which category I wish to put myself on for
each of these projects.

Paul

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 To a large extent the Incubator relies on the efforts of our mentors
 to help podling communities learn the Apache Way and the various ASF
 policies and practices. Usually this works pretty well, but every know
 and then we see podlings that are left struggling with little or no
 mentor help. An unfortunately we don't have very good mechanisms in
 place for detecting and dealing with such situations.

 I'd like to start fixing that by first figuring out the extent of the
 problem and identifying at least the podlings worst affected by such
 mentor deficit. To do so I started going through the mentors listed
 for each podling reporting this month (except ones still in their
 first quarter) and tried to spot any community interactions from the
 mentors over the past three months on either the public or private
 project mailing lists. I classified a mentor as active if at least
 one such interaction (including a report sign-off) was spotted, and
 inactive otherwise. IMHO someone who doesn't show up with any
 feedback or other help, not even a +1 to a draft report, over an
 entire quarter isn't living up to the expectations we generally set on
 project mentors.

 If your name shows up as an inactive mentor below, that may be a) a
 mistake on my part, b) temporary absence for whatever reason, c) a
 call to action, or d) a reason to consider resigning from mentoring
 that particular podling. In case of d), such resignation should not be
 considered a failure (we're all volunteers here), but rather a
 valuable signal to the rest of the IPMC that new mentors may be needed
 for that podling.

 With that background, here are my results for the first batch of six
 podlings (more to come over the next few days):

  Airavata
  - active: Alek Slominski, Ate Douma, Chris Mattmann, Ross Gardler
  - inactive: Paul Fremantle, Sanjiva Weerawarana

  Ambari
  - active: Owen O'Malley
  - inactive: Arun C. Murthy, Chris Douglas

  Amber
  - active, not in status file: Raymond Feng
  - inactive: Brian McCallister, David Jencks, Gianugo Rabellino,
 Jean-Frederic Clere
  - listed in projects.xml: Henning Schmiedehausen

  Clerezza
  - active: Ross Gardler
  - inactive: Karl Pauls, Reinhard Poetz
  - listed in projects.xml: Gianugo Rabellino

  DeltaSpike
  - active: David Blevins, Gerhard Petracek, Jim Jagielski, Mark
 Struberg, Matt Benson, Matthias Wessendorf

  Droids
  - active: Richard Frovarp, Thorsten Scherler
  - inactive: Paul Fremantle

 Note that for Amber and Clerezza the the projects.xml file lists a
 different set of mentors than than the status page. I assume that the
 status page is more up to date in such cases. We discussed this
 mismatch a bit in another thread some while ago, but it looks like we
 need to bring that up again.

 Also, Amber seems to have invited Raymond Feng as a new mentor, but
 the status page hasn't yet been updated to reflect this. Raymond, if
 you're reading this, as a mentor you should join the IPMC to have a
 binding vote on matters related to the podling. As an ASF member you
 can simply let me know that you want to join the IPMC and I'll take
 care of the rest.

 BR,

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Tashi 201202-incubating

2012-03-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yes its fine to leave it open. Any other incubator PMC members willing to
jump in?

Paul

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Michael Stroucken mxs+apa...@cmu.eduwrote:

 Paul Fremantle wrote:

 Michael

 You can leave the vote open. However, if you are making changes I would
 repack and revote.

 Usually there is a revote if the changes are anything other than say a
 minor mod to a README.



 Too bad. If you think it's ok, I think then it may be better to leave the
 vote open again to speculatively wait for another vote. At the same time
 I'll start preparing a new release from trunk and will call for a vote in
 the PPMC when it is ready.


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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Tashi 201202-incubating

2012-02-29 Thread Paul Fremantle
Michael

You can leave the vote open. However, if you are making changes I would
repack and revote.

Usually there is a revote if the changes are anything other than say a
minor mod to a README.

Paul

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Michael Stroucken mxs+apa...@cmu.eduwrote:

 Luciano Resende wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Michael Stroucken mxs+apa...@cmu.edu
 wrote:


 The vote to release Apache Tashi 201202-incubating received two +1 votes
 from IPMC members. Three +1 votes were required, so the vote fails to
 pass.

 The Apache Tashi team will build another release candidate soon, and will
 resubmit a vote for release.




 Did you guys find something wrong with the release ? Or are you guys
 saying the vote failed just because it didn't get the three +1
 required IPMC votes ? If it's because of not reaching enough votes,
 you guys don't need a new RC, just need to work with your mentors and
 other IPMCs to get the extra vote required.



 The original vote called for a three-day voting period. Two out of our
 three mentors were available and gave their +1s a bit later. It's been two
 weeks since the vote was called; is it customary to just leave them open,
 until the last required vote is cast?

 We did find some bugs that we've fixed in the mean time, it would be nice
 if we can ask the IPMC to release a new package with them applied as a RC,
 like Hama is doing. Would that require a full PPMC vote again?

 Greetings,
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tashi 201202-incubating

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
I checked it out and it looks good to me.

+1

Paul

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Michael Stroucken mxs+apa...@cmu.eduwrote:

 Hi,

 The Tashi project is excited to ask the incubator for approval to make our
 first release.

 The vote passed the project PPMC as follows:-
 +1 (binding) * 3: Michael, Richard, Michael (all PPMC).
 +1 (nonbinding) * 4 (other mailing list subscribers)
 -1: 0

 Vote thread: http://s.apache.org/6RE
 Result thread: http://s.apache.org/1qf
 Release artifacts are at http://people.apache.org/~**
 stroucki/tashi-201202/ http://people.apache.org/~stroucki/tashi-201202/
 Release was built from tag http://svn.apache.org/repos/**
 asf/incubator/tashi/tags/**APACHE_TASHI_201202http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tashi/tags/APACHE_TASHI_201202
 .

 Please vote by 2012-02-18T02:00Z.

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Re: OpenOffice LibreOffice

2011-06-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
 I don't
 know why people bother to put the Apache text at the top of every
 file, when someone else can just as quickly remove / relicense it.

PS  Have you read the Apache License?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Bean Validation 0.3-incubating

2011-04-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org wrote:
 This is the third release of Apache Bean Validation.

 We have already received 4 binding IPMC votes during the PPMC voting
 below, so I'm requesting a 72 hour lazy consensus before releasing the
 artifacts.


 Thanks,
 Donald

  Original Message 
 Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Bean Validation 0.3-incubating
 Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 07:35:44 -0400
 From: Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 Reply-To: bval-...@incubator.apache.org
 To: bval-...@incubator.apache.org, priv...@incubator.apache.org

 Vote passed with the following:
    +1 Donald Woods, Mark Struberg, Kevan Miller, Niall Pemberton,
        Albert Lee, Jeremy Bauer,
     0 Gerhard Petracek
 There were no -1 votes.

 Following +1 votes were from IPMC members:
    Donald Woods, Mark Struberg, Kevan Miller, Niall Pemberton


 For the IPMC, please review and I'll conclude the vote after the 72 hour
 review period.


 Thanks,
 Donald


 On 2/3/11 11:02 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
 A Bean Validation 0.3-incubating release candidate has been created with
 the following artifacts up for a vote:

 SVN source tag (r1067061):
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bval/tags/0.3-incubating/

 Maven staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebval-033/

 Source release:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebval-033/org/apache/bval/bval-parent/0.3-incubating/bval-parent-0.3-incubating-source-release.zip

 Javadoc staging site:
 http://people.apache.org/~dwoods/bval/0.3-incubating/staging-site/apidocs/

 PGP release keys (signed using D018E6B1):
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bval/KEYS


 Vote will be open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1  approve
 [ ] +0  no opinion
 [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)


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Re: [PROPOSAL] SWSSF (Streaming-WebServices-Security-Framework) for Incubator

2011-01-12 Thread Paul Fremantle
 impressions how the
 process works. I often open tickets and provide patches.


 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

 As already mentioned, SWSSF were developed within my Master Thesis.
 So no company and the like is involved. The code is owned by me.


 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==

 SWSSF compete with Apache WSS4J.
 A possible integration (already realized) in Apache CXF.
 A further integration should be possible in Apache Axis2


 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==

 I believe that the project is interesting and useful and
 could be a improvement for existing Apache Projects like
 Apache CXF and Apache Axis2
 The Apache Brand may help attract more contributors to
 improve the project.


 = Documentation =

 Documentation exists as Master-Thesis (only in German and which must be
 clarified with the University if I am allowed to release it).
 Java-Doc exists to some extent.


 = Initial Source =

 Most of the code for SWSSF is written by me. Some source code
 where lend and extended from Apache Rampart, Apache WSS4J and Apache
 Santuario.


 = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =

 The university confirmed that the code is owned by me and
 so I can do whatever I want with it. At the moment the
 code is licensed under LGPL3 for different reasons.
 If the project will accepted by Apache I have no problem
 to re-license the code under the ASL


 = External Dependencies =

 Most of the following dependencies are needed for
 test code and integration testing.

 Public Domain: AOP alliance

 GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE: BeanShell

 Eclipse Public License - Version 1.0: Jetty Server, Jetty Utilities

 Unknown: ASM Core, Java API for XML Based RPC, SLF4J API Module,
 Streaming-WebService-Security-Framework, Unnamed -
 com.sun.xml.messaging.saaj:saaj-impl:jar:1.3.2, Unnamed -
 javax.xml.bind:jaxb-api:jar:2.1, Unnamed -
 xalan:serializer:jar:2.7.1-mgi, Unnamed - xalan:xalan:jar:2.7.1-mgi,
 jaxen

 Bouncy Castle Licence: Bouncy Castle Provider

 Apache License, Version 2.0: TestNG COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION
 LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0: SOAP with Attachments API Package The
 Apache Software License, Version 2.0: Activation 1.1, Annotation 1.0,
 Apache CXF API, Apache CXF Command Line Tools Common, Apache CXF Common
 Schemas, Apache CXF Common Utilities, Apache CXF Runtime Core, Apache
 CXF Runtime HTTP Jetty Transport, Apache CXF Runtime HTTP Transport,
 Apache CXF Runtime JAX-WS Frontend, Apache CXF Runtime JAXB
 DataBinding, Apache CXF Runtime SOAP Binding, Apache CXF Runtime Simple
 Frontend, Apache CXF Runtime WS Addressing, Apache CXF Runtime WS
 Security, Apache CXF Runtime XML Binding, Apache Geronimo JAX-WS 2.1
 API, Axiom API, Axiom Impl, Commons Codec, Commons Lang, Commons
 Logging, JCommander, JavaMail 1.4, Log4j, Neethi, Servlet 2.5, Spring
 Framework: Beans, Spring Framework: Context, Spring Framework: Core,
 Spring Framework: Web, StAX API, Streaming API for XML (STAX API 1.0),
 Unnamed - com.google.inject:guice:jar:2.0, WSS4J, Web Services Metadata
 2.0, Woodstox, XML Commons External Components XML APIs, XML Commons
 Resolver Component, XML Security, Xerces2 Java Parser, XmlSchema

 CPL: WSDL4J

 CDDL 1.0: JAXB RI

 GPL2 w/ CPE: JAXB RI

 Apache Software License - Version 2.0: Jetty Server, Jetty Utilities
 Common Public License Version 1.0: JUnit


 = Cryptography =

 Yes, SWSSF depends strongly on cryptography.


 = Required Resources =

 == Mailing lists ==

 The following mailing lists will be required:

  * swssf-private
  * swssf-dev
  * swssf-commits
  * swssf-users

 == Subversion Directory ==

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/swssf

 == Issue Tracking ==

 JIRA SWSSF (SWSSF)

 = Initial Commiters =

  * NAME             EMAIL
  * Marc Giger       gigerstyle at gmx dot ch


 = Sponsors =

 == Champion ==

  ??

 == Nominated Mentors ==

  ??

 == Sponsoring Entity ==

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache River as a TLP

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1!

Paul

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 +1


 Regards,
 Alan

 On Dec 15, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 Hello Incubator PMC,

 The River mentors and River community have a consensus that River is
 ready to graduate, and the discussion thread posted here revealed no
 blocking concerns.

 I therefore call the question.

 Having never done this before, it's entirely possible that I've
 omitted some conventional cross-post, or that the incubator PMC wants
 to see the draft board resolution. If so, just let me know, and I'll
 make the necessary repairs.

 Otherwise, I invite your votes.

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Re: [VOTE] Approve the M2 release of Apache Stonehenge

2010-07-08 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@apache.org wrote:
 +1

 On Jul 5, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Ben Dewey wrote:

 Hi,

 The Apache Stonehenge community has voted for the M2 release of Apache 
 Stonehenge. We are now asking the approval from the Incubator PMC to publish 
 the release.

 Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented 
 Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best 
 practice and interoperability.

 I have uploaded the Apache Stonehenge M2 release artifacts here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bendewey/stonehenge/m2/take4/

 The CHANGELOG is here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bendewey/stonehenge/m2/take4/ChangeLog

 The key is here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bendewey/stonehenge/m2/take4/KEYS

 RAT reports are here:
 http://people.apache.org/~bendewey/stonehenge/m2/take4/rat_report/

 This release is tagged at:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stonehenge/tags/stonehenge_m2_incubator_take4/

 The release vote on the stonehenge-dev mailing list resulted in
 8 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
 +1 votes are from
 *Ben Dewey
 *Kent Brown
 *Pablo Cibraro
 *Selvaratnam Uthaiyashankar
 *Chintana Wilamuna
 *Kamaljit Bath
 *Nick Hauenstein
 *Scott Golightly

 Vote Mail Thread is here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/stonehenge-...@incubator.apache.org/msg02559.html

 More information about the project can be found here:
 [Incubation Status Page] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/stonehenge.html
 [Project Page] http://incubator.apache.org/stonehenge/

 Please vote to approve this release.
 [] +1 Publish
 []  0 no opinion
 [] -1 Don't publish (and reasons why)

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Re: [VOTE] Nuvem Project

2010-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 binding

Paul

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 (Not binding)

 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Raymond Feng enjoyj...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 (non binding), bring Nuvem into Incubator.

 Thanks,
 Raymond
 
 Raymond Feng
 rf...@apache.org
 Apache Tuscany PMC member and committer: tuscany.apache.org
 Co-author of Tuscany SCA In Action book: www.tuscanyinaction.com
 Personal Web Site: www.enjoyjava.com
 

 On Jun 19, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:

 After initial discussion [1], please vote on the acceptance of Nuvem
 Project for incubation at the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is
 available at the end of this message and on the wiki at

       http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Nuvem

 We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor the project with Luciano Resende
 as the Champion and Jean-Frederic Clere, Paul Fremantle, Ant Elder and
 Donald Woods volunteering to be mentors.

 Please cast your votes:

 [ ] +1, bring Nuvem into Incubator
 [ ] +0, I don't care either way
 [ ] -1, do not bring Nuvem into Incubator, because...

 The vote is open for the next 72 hours and only votes from the
 Incubator PMC are binding.

 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg24841.html
 [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Nuvem


 =
 Apache Nuvem, a cross-cloud application programming interface
 =

 Abstract
 ---

 Nuvem will define an open application programming interface for common
 cloud application services, allowing applications to be easily ported
 across the most popular cloud platforms.

 Proposal
 ---

 * Define an open API that abstracts common cloud platform services to
 help decouple the application logic from the particulars of a specific
 proprietary cloud.
 * Implement the Nuvem API for popular clouds such as Google
 AppEngine, Amazon EC2 and Microsoft Azure.
 * Initially focus on User Authentication and Authorization,
 Distributed Cache, Data Store, Queuing; then extend to other services
 such as Chat, Logging, and Debugging.

 Background
 

 An important issue for application developers is to avoid lock-in to a
 specific cloud application platform. By providing a cross-cloud
 application programming interface that abstracts common cloud platform
 services, Nuvem addresses this concern and strives to help make
 applications easily portable across multiple clouds.

 In mixed cloud deployments, applications need to access platform
 services across cloud boundaries. Nuvem will make this possible by
 providing a remote API for these cloud application platform services.

 Rationale
 -

 There are currently no efforts to define a truly open-source API to
 abstract common cloud platform services. Nuvem strives to create a
 community around building an open-source cloud application programming
 interface in a manner that fully allows for tried-and-true open source
 mechanisms such as user-driven innovation.

 Initial Goals
 

 A Nuvem prototype is currently being developed in an Apache Tuscany
 sandbox, providing initial support for some cloud platform services
 from Google AppEngine and Amazon EC2. We look at moving this prototype
 to the Apache Incubator as the next step to broaden the community,
 expand the API to support more services and cloud platforms.

 Current Status
 

 The initial code has been developed under the Apache Software License
 2.0 by current Apache committers.

 Meritocracy
 ---

 We recognize the importance of running the project as a meritocracy.
 We are eager to engage other members of the community and operate to
 the standard of meritocracy that Apache emphasizes; we believe this is
 the most effective method of growing our community and enabling
 widespread adoption.

 Community
 ---

 The initial committer list consists of a couple of independent
 developers. We expect that the project will greatly increase in
 contribution base, and this is one aspect the project will monitor in
 becoming ready for graduation.

 Alignment
 --

 Currently, there are no other Apache projects concerned with building
 a cross-cloud API for application platform services. We feel that it
 would be a good complement to the set of Apache projects and could
 provide them with an API for interacting with cloud application
 platforms.

 Nuvem complements Apache libCloud and Deltacloud projects (which both
 cover provisioning and elasticity in the cloud), providing portability
 of applications and application services   across heterogeneous cloud
 environments.

 Orphaned Products
 --

 The Nuvem developers have a long-term interest in use and maintenance
 of the code

Re: [PROPOSAL] Nuvem Project

2010-06-16 Thread Paul Fremantle
Luciano

I am happy to mentor. Shall I move my name to the mentors list?

Paul

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to propose the Nuvem project for addition to the Apache 
 incubator.

 The initial proposal is available at the the Wiki[1], and it is also
 included below for convenience.

 We are looking forward to any and all feedback and/or questions on the
 proposal. We are also looking for a Champion and mentors, and would
 very much welcome additional volunteers to help steer Nuvem through
 the incubation process.


 [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Nuvem


 We are still looking for mentors, any volunteers to help ?


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Nuvem Project

2010-06-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
 

 The project is being implemented by developers in their independent
 personal time and is not founded by a specific corporation.

 Relationships with Other Apache Products
 

 Apache Tuscany is currently used to wire different implementations of
 application platform services to applications and expose these
 services remotely.

 For clouds that does not provide a specific application service on
 their platform, we would work with Apache sibling projects such as
 Hadoop, CouchDB and Cassandra for data store, or ActiveMQ and Qpid for
 queueing for example, to close the gap.

 An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
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 We seek to build a lasting community around the Nuvem API. The most
 important reason for proposing this project for incubation is to gain
 visibility, and to allow contributors to more easily join and
 contribute to the project.

 Documentation
 

 There isn't much of a documentation available.

 Initial Source
 --

 The Apache Nuvem prototype has been developed in the Apache SVN
 repository and is available at:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sandbox/sca-cloud-tutorial/

 External Dependencies
 ---

 Nuvem is written in Java and is currently using Apache Tuscany.

 Cryptography
 --

 N/A

 Required Resources
 ---

  * Mailing lists
  * nuvem-dev
  * nuvem-commits
  * nuvem-private
  * Subversion
  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/nuvem

  * Issue Tracking
  * JIRA (nuvem)

 Initial Committers
 ---

 Luciano Resende (lresende AT apache DOT org

 Raymond Feng (rfeng AT apache DOT org)

 Sponsors
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 Champion
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 Nominated Mentors
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 Sponsoring Entity
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Cassandra to an Apache TLP

2010-01-29 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 [binding]

Paul

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org wrote:
  [X] +1 to recommend Cassandra's graduation
 (binding)

 On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Eric Evans wrote:


 Greetings,

 We took the feedback from the earlier discussion[1] here and added our
 active mentors to the proposed PMC, (for a total of 7 people), then ran
 that through a new community vote[2].

 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/24427
 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.user/2157

 There didn't seem to be any other feedback, so I'd like to start an
 official vote to recommend graduation of Apache Cassandra to a top-level
 project.

 Please cast your vote:
 [ ]  0 don't care
 [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
Jason

It is very worrying that you got threatening emails from anyone
involved in the project. Have you brought this up with the mentors? Do
you feel that the project needs further independent mentors?

Paul

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jason Dillon ja...@planet57.com wrote:
 Sorry folks, after my massive falling out with IBM I'm unable to help out 
 with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out differently, 
 mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work with them again.

 I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
 project.

 Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
 subject, so I kept quiet.  But I feel its not fair, so i wanted to officially 
 resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
My apologies. I misunderstood Jason's note. And I certainly wasn't
trying to criticize you. only trying to put myself in the place of
someone having an argument with IBM and having two IBM employees as
mentors on the project. The mentors could be fantastic and independent
as indeed you are, but it still might be an issue. However, I can see
that in this case it wasn't an issue.

Best, as ever
Paul

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul,

 Please don't jump the gun - Do you feel that the project needs
 further independent mentors? There is no communication from Jason to
 the ppmc mailing list or the priv...@incubator mailing list and i
 certainly haven't received any personal email.

 Yes, If anyone wants to help us with mentoring, Very welcome. Just not
 like this.

 thanks,
 dims

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 Jason

 It is very worrying that you got threatening emails from anyone
 involved in the project. Have you brought this up with the mentors? Do
 you feel that the project needs further independent mentors?

 Paul

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 out with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out 
 differently, mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work 
 with them again.

 I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
 project.

 Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
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 officially resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation

2009-10-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
I've added myself as a proposed Mentor. I'm very happy to mentor this
project and also interested in this domain.

Paul

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 I'm sending proposal for WS Human Task implementation, project is
 called Humanoid.
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HumanoidProposal
 Congratulations!
 Note that I have already have a project called humanoid on Sourceforge and
 that I own the humanoid.org domain, just FYI.
 I do not mind nor care in particular that you also call your project
 humanoid too, though it may not e the best pick.
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Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-08-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Jukka Zittingjukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Greg Browngkbr...@mac.com wrote:
 It may be worth noting that Pivot is not technically a VMware project.
 Todd and I work on Pivot on our own time. We just happen to work for the
 same company.  :-)

 That certainly helps with the diversity requirement.


I agree. I vote +1 (IPMC binding)

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
The mailing lists are now active. Can all the committers and mentors
please subscribe by sending mail to

 mailto:vxquery-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org
 mailto:vxquery-private-subscr...@incubator.apache.org (for the
Podling Project Management Committee). I'm assuming we will bootstrap
the PPMC with the three initial committers plus the mentors.

Devs can also subscribe to

mailto:vxquery-commits-subscr...@incubator.apache.org

Thanks
Paul

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Paul Fremantlepzf...@gmail.com wrote:
 New committers: do any of you need your employers to sign a CCLA?
 Please see http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas

 Please can you let me know if we need CCLAs or not and if so, whether
 they are already in place.

 Thanks
 Paul

 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Paul Fremantlepzf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would the new committers please check that they can effectively check
 out and update files in SVN location:

 Incubator team - please bear with us using this thread until the
 mailing lists are setup.

 Thanks
 Paul

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Crossleycross...@apache.org wrote:
 Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 I suggest that the podling use Jira for tracking the start of a 
 project... See

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-1
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-1

 for a reasonable template on what is needed.

 However please move sub-task #6 on those lists
 to be the first task,
 i.e. Add project to Reporting Schedule

 Well, when I created those, there was no inherent order in the list,
 just the order they came to my mind. And at any given point in time, I
 would look at the list and say What do I have energy and time for
 doing now? and pick one. IMHO, forcing a particular order will only
 slow the overall progress down. (Not really the case for your
 suggestion since it is one of the 'quick' ones.) Anyway, I have made
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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-17 Thread Paul Fremantle
Would the new committers please check that they can effectively check
out and update files in SVN location:

Incubator team - please bear with us using this thread until the
mailing lists are setup.

Thanks
Paul

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Crossleycross...@apache.org wrote:
 Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 I suggest that the podling use Jira for tracking the start of a project... 
 See

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-1
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-1

 for a reasonable template on what is needed.

 However please move sub-task #6 on those lists
 to be the first task,
 i.e. Add project to Reporting Schedule

 Well, when I created those, there was no inherent order in the list,
 just the order they came to my mind. And at any given point in time, I
 would look at the list and say What do I have energy and time for
 doing now? and pick one. IMHO, forcing a particular order will only
 slow the overall progress down. (Not really the case for your
 suggestion since it is one of the 'quick' ones.) Anyway, I have made
 the change suggested.


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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-17 Thread Paul Fremantle
New committers: do any of you need your employers to sign a CCLA?
Please see http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas

Please can you let me know if we need CCLAs or not and if so, whether
they are already in place.

Thanks
Paul

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Paul Fremantlepzf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would the new committers please check that they can effectively check
 out and update files in SVN location:

 Incubator team - please bear with us using this thread until the
 mailing lists are setup.

 Thanks
 Paul

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Crossleycross...@apache.org wrote:
 Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 I suggest that the podling use Jira for tracking the start of a project... 
 See

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-1
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-1

 for a reasonable template on what is needed.

 However please move sub-task #6 on those lists
 to be the first task,
 i.e. Add project to Reporting Schedule

 Well, when I created those, there was no inherent order in the list,
 just the order they came to my mind. And at any given point in time, I
 would look at the list and say What do I have energy and time for
 doing now? and pick one. IMHO, forcing a particular order will only
 slow the overall progress down. (Not really the case for your
 suggestion since it is one of the 'quick' ones.) Anyway, I have made
 the change suggested.


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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
Thanks everyone.

Here is the JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VXQUERY-1

Please can any committers who don't have a JIRA account create one and
send me their userid. I will add you to the vxquery-developers group.

Paul

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:01 AM, David Crossleycross...@apache.org wrote:
 Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 I suggest that the podling use Jira for tracking the start of a project... 
 See

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-1
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-1

 for a reasonable template on what is needed.

 However please move sub-task #6 on those lists
 to be the first task,
 i.e. Add project to Reporting Schedule

 This is in line with the docs:
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Overview
 http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#steps

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

2009-07-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me (IPMC binding)

Paul

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Ate Doumaa...@douma.nu wrote:
 +1

 BTW: not sure if my vote is binding as I received no formal feedback yet
 concerning my IPMC membership (but saw it being ACK by board).

 Ate

 Ross Gardler wrote:

 I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
 Wookie, a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

 The full proposal can be found at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WookieProposal

 Vote will close in a little over 72 hours at mid day (BST, UTC + 1)
 Friday 17th July.

 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7day=17year=2009hour=12min=0sec=0p1=136

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Will all the proposed committers please make sure you have faxed or
emailed the CLA

http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas

to the Secretary to ensure we can move forwards.

Paul

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Vinayak Borkarvbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Please add the current list of mentors here and at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VXQueryProposal for reference.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Thanks. I was just checking - the CLAs are all received now.

Thanks
Paul

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Vinayak Borkarvbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Paul,

 It is my understanding that all the committers have already sent in the
 CLAs. Can you please let me know if the icla.txt file indicates otherwise?

 Thanks,
 Vinayak

 Paul Fremantle wrote:

 Will all the proposed committers please make sure you have faxed or
 emailed the CLA

 http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas

 to the Secretary to ensure we can move forwards.

 Paul

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 Please add the current list of mentors here and at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VXQueryProposal for reference.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-07-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
Congratulations. I am travelling so I can't do any project setup right
now. I'll be able to get cracking on Thursday/Friday.

Paul

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Vinayak Borkarvbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks Bertrand.

 This project has 6 +1 binding votes, 2 +1 non-binding votes, 0 -1 votes.
 The proposal has been on the voting thread for about 3 weeks.

 Can we now move to the next step to get the podling created?

 Thanks,
 Vinayak

 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Vinayak Borkarvbo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Please add the current list of mentors here and at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VXQueryProposal for reference.

 Done.

 Thanks - here's the list so that it also gets archived in this thread:

 Nominated Mentors

      Paul Fremantle pzfreo at gmail dot com [ASF member]
      Sanjiva Weerawarana sanjiva at opensource dot lk [ASF Member]
      Radu Preotiuc-Pietro radup at apache dot org [Non ASF member]
      Jochen Wiedmann jochen dot wiedmann at gmail dot com [Non ASF
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Re: [VOTE] Graduation for Sanselan

2009-06-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1. Congratulations.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Felix Meschbergerfmesc...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 Regards
 Felix

 Craig L Russell schrieb:
 Hi,

 Sanselan has been in incubation since September 2007. Sanselan is a
 pure-java image library for reading and writing a variety of image formats.

 Monthly and then quarterly reports can be found at
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sanselan/board/
 The first official Apache Sanselan incubating release occurred on July
 30th, 2008.
 A few months back we took a final look at Sanselan's status with regard
 to exiting the incubator. We concluded that while the code and the
 committer for Sanselan were ready to exit the incubator, community was
 an issue. We didn't see the prospect for getting enough of a community
 to graduate Sanselan as a TLP. But Apache Commons was eager to adopt
 Sanselan, and they voted to do so.
 Sanselan is now ready to graduate the incubator and assume its role as a
 subproject of Apache Commons.
 Please review the checklist at
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sanselan.html and verify that
 Sanselan is ready.

 +1 graduate Sanselan into Apache Commons
 +-0 don't care
 -1 don't graduate because...

 Voting will remain open until Thursday June 25.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

2009-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Vinayak

That is fine. This is the normal situation with the incubator. You
will need to submit a software grant when you donate the code. I think
Kevan is simply suggesting that the proposal needs updating to be
clearer.

Paul

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Vinayak Borkarvbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Kevan,

 I have been spending some time writing code for this project. Its by no
 means complete. I guess that would mean I would be donating the code I have
 so far, and further development would continue from there.

 Is there something different I need to do in this case?

 Thanks,
 Vinayak


 Kevan Miller wrote:

 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Vinayak Borkar wrote:

 Hello all,

 I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
 VXQuery, a Java based XQuery processor, for a vote

 The full proposal can be found at
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VXQueryProposal

 My apologies, I missed the original discussion of your proposal. One
 question:

 Is this a proposal to generate code from scratch? Or is there an existing
 codebase which will be donated? There's a mix of tenses used to describe
 VXQuery (e.g. VXQuery works on...). So, I'm not sure if code already
 exists, or if this is going to be all new code...

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate Apache Sling as Top Level Project

2009-05-25 Thread Paul Fremantle
I support this. I think Sling has done a great job and also works well
with many other PMCs.

Paul

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Felix Meschberger fmesc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...We have prepared the board resolution on our wiki at [3]
 ...
 [3] http://cwiki.apache.org/SLING/graduation-resolution-draft.html...

 The resolution looks good to me.

 (and I'm +1 on graduation, but kinda biased, being a Sling committer ;-)

 I am not biases, and I also think that the large number of ASF old
 timers in the initial PMC is reassuring.

 So, go for it...

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Re: [PROPOSAL] VXQuery

2009-05-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yes I am willing to be a mentor.

Paul

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Paul,

 Thank you for your interest in the VXQuery engine. We are looking for
 mentors for the project. Would you be willing to be a mentor?

 Thanks,
 Vinayak

 Paul Fremantle wrote:

 Synapse would also be interested in using the XQuery implementation!

 Thanks
 Paul

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello,

 We wish to present a proposal to create a new project in the incubator
 called VXQuery. Please find below, the plain-text version of the
 proposal.
 Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


 Thanks,
 Vinayak

 VXQueryProposal
 Abstract

 Apache VXQuery is a language processor that implements the XML Query
 Language v1.0 standardized by the W3C.
 Proposal

 VXQuery (Versatile XQuery) will be a standards compliant XML Query
 processor
 implemented in Java. We believe that there exists a strong (and growing)
 need to process semi-structured data in many applications. The W3C
 standardized v1.0 of the XML Query Language in early 2007. Since then, a
 few
 processors have surfaced (both commercial and open source). VXQuery will
 implement this standard.

 VXQuery plans to be the glue that brings together imperative programming
 in
 Java and declarative programming in XQuery. The project would enable
 developers to use XQuery to navigate and transform application objects
 declaratively in Java applications with minimal overhead.

 In the VXQuery project we plan to build an implementation that allows
 users
 to run declarative XQueries on arbitrary object models. Existing XQuery
 engines execute queries by translating the user data into some form of
 XML
 Object model. With VXQuery, we take the opposing view - Translate the
 query
 to work natively on the user's object model.

 In addition, VXQuery works on top of different XML representations
 including
 DOM, Stax, and a space optimized model motivated by Xalan's DTM (Document
 Table Model).

 VXQuery will also provide a library that allows application developers to
 express declarative queries without the need to learn a new syntax. We
 believe that this will speed up the adoption process.
 Current Status

 This is a new project.
 Meritocracy

 The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open source
 development at Apache. Apache was chosen specifically because the initial
 developers want to encourage this style of development for the project.
 Community

 VXQuery seeks to develop developer and user communities during
 incubation.
 Core Developers

 The core members of the project are diverse. Vinayak Borkar is an
 independent consultant. Till Westmann works for a company that would be a
 potential consumer of VXQuery. During incubation the developers base will
 be
 broadened.
 Alignment

 XQuery is gaining more traction as a XML management technology and there
 already are several Apache projects ([WWW] XMLBeans, [WWW] Camel, [WWW]
 Tuscany) that use or need a XQuery implementation. As no such
 implementation
 is available as an Apache project these projects have to rely on external
 engines. VXQuery can fill this gap and complement the XML support of the
 Apache Software Foundation.
 Known Risks
 Orphaned products

 VXQuery is new development.
 Inexperience with Open Source

 The initial developers include long-time open source developers. Vinayak
 Borkar is an active contributor to the Zorba project at the FLWOR
 foundation.
 Relationships with Other Apache Products

 XMLBeans is a representation of XML that would be natively supported in
 VXQuery. Therefore VXQuery can be used as an efficient and
 Apache-licensed
 implementation for the [WWW] selectPath and execQuery methods found in
 XMLBeans.

 Similarly, [WWW] Tuscany's SDO implementation can be natively supported
 and
 VXQuery can be used to provide an [WWW] XQuery implementation for
 Tuscany.

 VXQuery can also be used as an XQuery implementation for [WWW] Camel.

 Further, VXQuery uses the Xerces XML parser and schema validator.
 A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand

 We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put in
 place.
 Apache is also known to foster a great community around their projects
 and
 provide exposure. While these points are important, they are not the main
 motivation for choosing Apache to host VXQuery.
 Documentation

 Not publicly available
 Initial Source

 Not publicly available
 External Dependencies

 [WWW] JavaCC (BSD license), [WWW] Davos SDO implementation (Apache 2.0
 license), [WWW] Woodstox XML parser (Apache 2.0 license), [WWW] XStream
 project (BSD license)
 Required Resources
 Developer and user mailing lists

 [MAILTO] vxquery-...@incubator.apache.org [MAILTO]
 vxquery-us...@incubator.apache.org [MAILTO]
 vxquery-comm...@incubator.apache.org
 A subversion repository

 [WWW] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/vxquery
 A JIRA issue tracker

 VXQuery

Re: [PROPOSAL] VXQuery

2009-05-11 Thread Paul Fremantle
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
http://feathercast.org/?p=68 !

Thanks very much Rich for posting this.

Paul

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Fremantle
Thanks David. I'm still halfway through the process :)

Paul

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Fremantle wrote:

 Thanks to everyone involved and I'll be in contact with the mentors to
 get the ball rolling on infrastructure.

 I noticed that you have commenced some next steps,
 adding stonehenge to the svn authorisation.
 However you missed one part of that:
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Set+Up+Repository
 (I just fixed it.)

 Importantly, this enables them to edit their Status
 page, so getting involved early in their PMC duties.

 Also don't forget the first step: getting on the
 ReportingSchedule, etc.:
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Setting+Up+a+New+Podling
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Overview

 This enables Clutch to assist people to keep in touch
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
Thanks!

I will update the list.

Paul

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-16 Thread Paul Fremantle
And of course, my +1.

Paul

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while,
 and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to
 call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or
 contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache
 process of course allows that at any time.

 The proposal is here:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal

 And also included at the end:

 Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling.

 +1

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-15 Thread Paul Fremantle
Congratulations!

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carl Trieloff wrote:

 It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list
 that Qpid
 would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt
 that the
 Qpid project should increase its diversity. Over the intervening months
 Qpid has
 added more independents to the project  PPMC, bringing the diversity to 7
 legally
 independent parties (not counting those mentors who will stay on to help
 advise), with
 the PPMC diversity at 5 legally independent parties (also not counting
 mentors).

 Qpid also continues to attract more contributors (both independents and
 large corporates),
 so the committer pool and diversity should continue to expand as
 contributors are voted
 in as committers.

 Qpid has also made an additional release since the last graduation attempt
 and is currently
 working through close down of the next release. Qpid was accepted into the
 incubator
 August 2006.


 Binding - names listed at: http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html

 (8 +1 binding)

 Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Craig L Russell  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ant Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 (2 +1 non-binding)

 Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 no (0 or -1 votes)

 Many thanks to all those involved and that voted on the community vote
 etc... I will now
 pass the resolution onto the board.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just two concerns...

 Is it anticipated this will graduate into the WS TLP?  If so, has WS voted
 to sponsor the project into incubation?

We would like to leave this open during the initial graduation. I
think this might aim for TLP in order to maintain neutrality across
different frameworks such as Axis, Axis2 and CXF.

 I presume n==6, could you update the wiki?
Done. Thanks for picking this up.

Paul

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Robert

Excellent points:

 ...The full proposal is here:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal..

 That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems
 such as Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers, which IIUC means
 that some parts of Stonehenge might not be buildable or testable using
 open source tools.

 good point

 apache has developed open source Java stuff for years, even when it
 was a closed, proprietary platform. but the status of java (closed but
 no charge) was well and widely known, and open source tools were
 developed to build and test. this is probably less true in this case.

The only pay-for requirement is a Windows OS to run the .NET tools at
this point. So for a pure OSS developer, there will be parts of the
project which will not be buildable, until MONO implements those
parts. However, many Apache projects have Windows builds (e.g. Apache
HTTPD), so this won't be unique.

 1. There should be no barrier for ports of open source code dependent
 on a proprietary platform to an open one (for example .net to -
 hypothetically - mono).

+1. I believe that everything Stonehenge is potentially doing is
covered by Microsoft's OSPA. Maybe Kamal can comment.

 One great thing about FOSS is that the code
 gains a life independent of it's creators. I think that everyone
 involved needs to be comfortable about this possibility, and accept
 that it's fine to happen on shore (as part of the project) rather than
 off shore.

+1

 2. when developing open source software for proprietary platforms,
 using open, publicly document APIs is important. AIUI this is the case
 for .NET

+1

 3. payment for development tools to contribute to the project may
 prove a barrier to new contributions. apache has always used open
 source build and test tools. this allows anyone with energy to dive in
 and contribute. i would hope that there would be no barriers to
 supporting open source build and test environments if volunteers
 stepped up to create and maintain them.

I believe that Microsoft already makes all the requirements to build
and test the .NET code available to Apache Committers via the MSDN
subscriptions it offers. So that is at least a help, if not the final
answer.


 4. running continuous integration on shore may require licenses. it's
 important that contributors understand this and don't just start
 diving in. it may be better to start off shore.

+1, tho again an MSDN license should help.

 We certainly already have some such code in our projects, and I'm no
 against that - but I'd like the Stonehenge people to keep such parts
 well separated, to allow people who only use open source tools to
 benefit from the project as well.

 pioneering something like
 http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#labeling might be useful more
 widely

+1!

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[VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
 considered a core part of WSO2's
offerings and we expect new applications developed to be similarly
important. We also intend to utilize these applications to demonstrate
ongoing interoperability. The success of Stonehenge will rely on
developing a community and we think it offers an exciting opportunity.
Inexperience with Open Source

The proposed group of committers includes people with varying amounts
of experience at Apache, but everyone is interested in the potential
of the project and to its success at Apache. The intent is for the
existing Apache committers to mentor the rest of the developers.
Homogeneous Developers

The proposed developers come from n companies. The developers have
already experience in working together across company boundaries and
welcome input from other developers – either independent, existing
Apache committers, or those in companies that wish to participate in
Stonehenge.
Leveraging the Strong Apache Brand

We strongly believe that the ASF is the right place for this project
and to develop a community. Firstly, the ASF offers a set of
governance practices and models that are independent of any company.
We believe this is vital in creating interoperable cross-framework and
cross-language distributed applications and systems. We also believe
that demonstrating interoperability can be accomplished in the
collaborative environment, and that we can help developers and users
better understand each others frameworks and code, which will help
identify and resolve problems. Although interoperability can be
achieved by design, or through private collaborative efforts, we
believe forums like Apache offers a valuable alternatives for
developers from different companies and technological backgrounds to
come together to help increase interoperability between technologies.
Documentation

Existing documentation for the WSO2 Stocktrader application can be found here:

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  [WWW] http://wso2.org/interop/stocktrader

Initial Source

Apache would receive all source and documentation contributions under
the Apache contributor's agreements. Contributions of the sample
applications (or related materials) do not include any commercially
available enabling technologies or standards that may be referenced in
the sample applications.applications, or which the sample applications
are related to.The WSO2 source is already available under the Apache
license here: [WWW]
https://wso2.org/repos/wso2/trunk/interop/stocktrader/
External Dependencies

As a project demonstrating broad interoperability, the project should
encourage the broadest possible implementation of each sample
application. We thus expect certain components of the application to
be run on open source licensed platforms, on dually licensed
platforms, as well as on commercially licensed platforms. The existing
Stocktrader code bases variously depend on Apache projects (Apache
Axis2/Java, Apache Axis2/C, Apache Maven), on other open source
systems such as WSO2 WSF/PHP and Spring (through WSO2 WSF/Spring).
Future contributions could depend on proprietary systems such as
Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers.
Cryptography

Stonehenge will use the existing Apache technologies (Rampart,
Rampart/C, WSS4J) and may leverage other technologies such as IBM,
Microsoft, Oracle or other frameworks for security and cryptography.
There is no code contributed or expectation of contributions that
implement cryptography itself.
Required Resources
Mailing Lists

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  stonehenge-private
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  stonehenge-dev
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  stonehenge-commits
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  stonehenge-user

Subversion Directory

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  [WWW] [WWW] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stonehenge

Issue Tracking

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  JIRA : Stonehenge (Stonehenge)

Other Resources

*

  None

Initial Committers

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-12 Thread Paul Fremantle
Bertrand

Great feedback. I think we should keep a clear statement in the SVN
and distros that identifies which parts of the project use which
dependencies. I also think we should structure the build so that each
different framework implementation of each application is a separate
build target. We can then put together an overall build that does
cross-framework build and test.

Thanks
Paul


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
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 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...The full proposal is here: 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal..

 That says future contributions could depend on proprietary systems
 such as Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers, which IIUC means
 that some parts of Stonehenge might not be buildable or testable using
 open source tools.

 We certainly already have some such code in our projects, and I'm no
 against that - but I'd like the Stonehenge people to keep such parts
 well separated, to allow people who only use open source tools to
 benefit from the project as well.

 As the project is about interoperability, that's somewhat obvious
 anyway, but still worth mentioning IMHO.

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-12 Thread Paul Fremantle
My +1 (mentor/IPMC)

Paul

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:03 PM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1

   ...ant

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list
 that Qpid
 would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt
 that the
 Qpid project should increase its diversity. Over the intervening months Qpid
 has
 added more independents to the project  PPMC, bringing the diversity to 7
 legally
 independent parties (not counting those mentors who will stay on to help
 advise), with
 the PPMC diversity at 5 legally independent parties (also not counting
 mentors).

 Qpid also continues to attract more contributors (both independents and
 large corporates),
 so the committer pool and diversity should continue to expand as
 contributors are voted
 in as committers.

 Qpid has also made an additional release since the last graduation attempt
 and is currently
 working through close down of the next release. Qpid was accepted into the
 incubator
 August 2006.

 Attached is the graduation resolution, Please consider your vote for our
 graduation.

 many thanks.
 Carl.


 ---

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
 of open-source software related to distributed messaging,
 for distribution at no charge to the public.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Qpid Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Qpid Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to distributed messaging; a multiple language
 implementation providing daemons and APIs for publish 
 subscribe, eventing and a wide range of message distribution patterns
 based on the Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) and
 related technologies such as (transaction management, federation,
 security, management); and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Qpid be and
 hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
 the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
 Apache Qpid Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
 of the Apache Qpid Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Qpid Project:

   * Aidan Skinner
   * Alan Conway
   * Arnaud Simon
   * Carl Trieloff
   * Craig Russell
   * Gordon Sim
   * Jonathan Robie
   * John O'Hara
   * Kim van der Riet
   * Marnie McCormack
   * Martin Ritchie
   * Manuel Teira
   * Paul Fremantle
   * Nuno Santos
   * Rafael Schloming
   * Rajith Attapattu
   * Robert Greig
   * Robert Godfrey
   * Steve Huston
   * Ted Ross
   * Yoav Shapira

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that
 Carl Trieloff be appointed to the office of Vice President,
 Qpid, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
 direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
 disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
 further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Qpid
 encumbered upon the Apache Incubator be hereafter discharged.




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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Buildr as TLP

2008-11-11 Thread Paul Fremantle
Actually Daniel K's vote is binding, but that doesn't change the outcome.

Congratulations!

Paul

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Alex Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The vote to approve the graduation of Buildr as a top-level project has now
 ended with 13 +1 votes (incl. 8 binding) and no other votes.

 Binding:
 * Martijn Dashorst
 * Bertrand Delacrétaz
 * Paul Fremantle
 * Jim Jagielski
 * Gianugo Rabellino
 * Matthieu Riou
 * Craig L. Russell
 * Yoav Shapira

 Non-binding:
 * Niklas Gustavsson
 * Erik Hatcher
 * Daniel Kulp
 * Luciano Resende
 * Carl Trieloff

 Thank you for your participation and congratulations to the Buildr project
 for this important milestone!

 alex

 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Alex Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 The Buildr community is requesting to graduate from the incubator as a
 top-level project.  We've recently held a 
 votehttp://n2.nabble.com/-VOTE--Graduation-Board-Resolution-td1347057.htmlto
  gauge the support of the community and feedback was all positive.  The
 project meets all incubator requirements and guidelines and has been in the
 incubator for a little more than one year. There have been several releases,
 the community is growing steadily, no pending IP issues and development is
 pretty active.

 For background you can see our incubation status page:
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/buildr.html

 After soliciting feedback on this list 5 days ago, I am now asking the
 Incubator PMC to approve this graduation.

 Please vote on approving the graduation of Buildr. This vote is open for
 the next 72 hours and only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding.

[ ] +1 Approve graduation of Buildr as a Top-Level Project
[ ] -1 Buildr is not ready to graduate


 --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
 purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
 the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to
 a Ruby-based build system that is suitable for small and large
 projects and multi-lingual integration, for distribution
 at no charge to the public.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the The Apache Buildr Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that The Apache Buildr Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
 project related to a Ruby-based build system that is suitable
 for small and large projects and multi-lingual integration.

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Buildr be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
 at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The
 Apache Buildr Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of
 The Apache Buildr Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
 Apache Buildr Project:

- Assaf Arkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Alex Boisvert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Victor Hugo Borja ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Antoine Contal ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Matthieu Riou ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alex Boisvert be
 and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President,
 Apache Buildr, to serve in accordance with and subject to
 the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
 disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
 further

 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Buildr PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Buildr Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Buildr Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Buildr podling; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Buildr podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 PMC are hereafter discharged.
 --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---






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Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-09 Thread Paul Fremantle
 Looks good to me. I've added myself to the list of mentors :)

Thanks!!

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Re: Asking for Feedback: CouchDB Graduation

2008-11-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
 Its not and five active people is certainly viable, but my point
 really was for the long term viability in case people leave the
 project.


There are plenty of active Apache projects with less than 5 active
people, and there are other PMCs that are now inactive.
I don't think its necessary for the incubator to get projects to the
point where you can guarantee this project will survive forever. I
believe our job is simply to make sure that the project meets the same
criteria as a current Apache projects. I can compare CouchDB to many
existing successful projects.

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Buildr as TLP

2008-11-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me! Good luck folks!

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Alex Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 The Buildr community is requesting to graduate from the incubator as a
 top-level project.  We've recently held a
 vote
 http://n2.nabble.com/-VOTE--Graduation-Board-Resolution-td1347057.htmlto
 gauge the support of the community and feedback was all positive.  The
 project meets all incubator requirements and guidelines and has been in the
 incubator for a little more than one year. There have been several
 releases,
 the community is growing steadily, no pending IP issues and development is
 pretty active.

 For background you can see our incubation status page:
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/buildr.html

 After soliciting feedback on this list 5 days ago, I am now asking the
 Incubator PMC to approve this graduation.

 Please vote on approving the graduation of Buildr. This vote is open for
 the
 next 72 hours and only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding.


 [X] +1 Approve graduation of Buildr as a Top-Level Project

 Matthieu




 --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
 purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
 the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to
 a Ruby-based build system that is suitable for small and large
 projects and multi-lingual integration, for distribution
 at no charge to the public.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the The Apache Buildr Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that The Apache Buildr Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
 project related to a Ruby-based build system that is suitable
 for small and large projects and multi-lingual integration.

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Buildr be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
 at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of The
 Apache Buildr Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of
 The Apache Buildr Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of The
 Apache Buildr Project:

   - Assaf Arkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   - Alex Boisvert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   - Victor Hugo Borja ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   - Antoine Contal ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   - Matthieu Riou ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alex Boisvert be
 and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President,
 Apache Buildr, to serve in accordance with and subject to
 the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
 disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
 further

 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Buildr PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Buildr Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Buildr Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Buildr podling; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Buildr podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 PMC are hereafter discharged.
 --- End Proposed Board Resolution ---





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Re: Asking for Feedback: CouchDB Graduation

2008-11-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
 I know theres been a push to get projects to graduate, but IMO CouchDB
 would benefit from growing its community a bit more first.

I think that 5 is a perfectly reasonable size, as long as the team is
working well. I just voted +1 to Buildr which has the same size PPMC.

As I see it, CouchDB :
* has continued an existing diverse Open Source community under the ASF model
* Added a committer
* Done releases
* Meets the diversity requirements.
* Is growing well

To me that is sufficient to graduate.

Paul

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
Robert

 sounds like a worthwhile initiative
Thanks for the feedback!

 i like the idea but i do wonder a little whether the practical scope
 of the project needs some more rounding out

I agree it would make sense to help tie down what would make this a
successful project, release, etc.
Any thoughts on how to make this more concrete?

 AFAICT (hopefully the committers will jump in and correct any
 misunderstandings) the project seems likely to consist of independent
 products, each (ideally) corresponding to a suite of applications
 target described by a sort-of-specification.

Yes.

 the scope's really pretty broad so i think a little more detail about
 scaling out would be useful: how would stonehenge approach adding new
 suites especially when donated from outside the developers group?

I guess I imagined that there would be two approaches. One is that
someone might develop this outside of Stonehenge and then do a grant.
However, I would expect a more likely approach is that someone would
contribute via the normal JIRA / patch process. Do you see any issues
with either of these?

Thanks
Paul

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[PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'd like to propose Stonehenge as an incubator proposal.

Stonehenge is a set of example applications for Service Oriented
Architecture that spans languages and platforms and demonstrates best
practise and interoperability.

The full proposal is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal

As ever, all feedback, positive or negative is welcome. Also, any
further mentors are more than welcome!

Paul

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Re: Asking for Feedback: CouchDB Graduation

2008-11-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
I agree it looks good.

Paul

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
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 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Jan Lehnardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...We would like to ask the IPMC to discuss the following Board resolution to
 be recommended to the Board

 The resolution looks good to me.

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Tika to a Lucene subproject (Graduation Approval Vote)

2008-10-25 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me.

Paul

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip

[X] +1 Approve graduation of Tika to a Lucene subproject
[ ] -1 Tika is not ready to graduate

 +1

 good work

 just FTR i'd like to comment that Tika is a small but useful library.
 the energy required to actively develop such a library as part of
 larger project is much less than would be required for a top level
 project with wider scope. i think this needs to be borne in mind when
 considering readiness for graduation.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Pig graduation as a Hadoop subproject

2008-10-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Free the Pig 9!

 +1 to graduate.

 Craig

 On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 Hi Incubator PMC,

 The Pig [1] and Hadoop [2] communities have voted to graduate Pig as a
 Hadoop subproject.

 According to [3| the Incubator PMC needs to accept this graduation.

 Please cast your votes - as the weekend is starting, I'll tally the
 vote open until Wednesday October 22n morning UTC.

 According to [4] in captivity, pigs may eat their own young if they
 become severely stressed, so let's set this Pig free ;-)

 -Bertrand

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Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.

 +1

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'm happy to mentor as well.
I've added my name to the proposal.

Paul

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Thorsten Scherler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 10:29 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  This is a proposal to enter the incubator.
 
  See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal for the most
  up-to-date version.


 I'm happy to mentor this proposal.

 :)

 Thank you very much Ross, I added your name to the proposal.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
 ===

 There is not yet a clear Droids community. Instead we have a number of
 people and related projects with an understanding that an intelligent
 standalone robot framework project would best serve everyone's
 interests. The primary goal of the incubating project is to build a
 self-sustaining community around this shared vision.

 === Core Developers ===

 The initial set of developers comes from various backgrounds, with
 different but compatible needs for the proposed project.

 === Alignment ===

 As a generic robot framework Droids will likely be widely used by
 various open source and commercial projects both together with and
 independent of other Apache tools. Apache projects like Cocoon, Lenya
 and Forrest are potential candidates for using different droids as an
 embedded component.

 == Known Risks ==

 === Orphaned products ===

 Till now only one company is known to use Droids in a productive
 environment however there is a constant interest in a generic robot
 framework expressed by various Apache committers. For many potential
 users the existing tools are to complicated or too much focused on a
 specific usecase which will help to gain a bigger user base.

 Once the project gets started we can quickly build the wget style droids
 to a feature level of existing tools based on plugin development that
 reuses code from sources mentioned below. After that we believe to be
 able to quickly grow the developer and user communities based on the
 benefits of a generic framework offering reusable plugins and different
 droids over custom alternatives.

 === Inexperience with Open Source ===

 All the initial developers have worked on open source before and many
 are committers and PMC members within other Apache projects.

 === Homogenous Developers ===

 The initial developers come from a variety of backgrounds and with a
 variety of needs for the proposed toolkit.

 === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===

 Some of the developers are paid to work develop certain functionality on
 this, but the proposed project is not the primary task for anyone.

 === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===

 TBN

 === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===

 All of us are familiar with Apache and we have participated in Apache
 projects as contributors, committers, and PMC members. We feel that the
 Apache Software Foundation is a natural home for a project like this.

 == Documentation ==

 The main documentation is distributed with the code

 * [http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/labs/droids/trunk/docs/ Docu]
 * [http://people.apache.org/~thorsten/droids/ DocuDeployed]

 == Initial Source ==

 Droids will start with the code base that have been developed in the
 Apache Labs project:

 * [http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/labs/droids/trunk/ code base]

 == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==

 All seed code and other contributions will be handled through the normal
 Apache contribution process.

 We will also contact other related efforts for possible cooperation and
 contributions.

 == External Dependencies ==

 Droids will mainly depend on the Spring core distribution.

 == Cryptography ==

 Droids itself will not use cryptography, but it is possible that some of
 the external libraries will include cryptographic code to handle
 different features.

 == Required Resources ==

 Mailing lists

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subversion Directory

 * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/droids

 Issue Tracking

 * JIRA Droids (DROIDS)

 Other Resources

 * none

 == Initial Committers ==

 || '''Name''' || '''Email'''   ||
 '''CLA'''||
 || Thorsten Scherler  || thorsten at apache dot org|| yes
 ||
 || Ryan !McKinley  || ryan at apache dot org|| yes
 ||
 || Grant Ingersoll  || gsingers at apache dot org||
 yes  ||

 == Affiliations ==

 || '''Name'''|| '''Affiliation'''
 ||
 || Thorsten Scherler   || Freelancer   ||


 == Sponsors ==

 Champion

 Grant Ingersoll

 Nominated Mentors

 TBN

 Sponsoring Entity

 * [http://hc.apache.org/ Apache HttpComponents]
 * [http://lucene.apache.org/ Apache Lucene]



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Re: [VOTE] accept Etch into the Incubator

2008-08-27 Thread Paul Fremantle
 just recently been made publicly available. First in binary
 form in May 2008 as part of a Cisco product and in open source form in
 July 2008.

 === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===

 It is expected that Etch development will be done both on salaried
 time and volunteer time. Cisco is highly interested in the success and
 development of an Etch community. At this time, Etch is a core
 component of shipping Cisco products and is likely to grow over time.
 Cisco in interested in investing time to support Etch development and
 use it as a key component in multiple products. It is also expected
 that non-Cisco developers will become interested in Etch.

 === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===

 Etch currently depends upon these other Apache projects: Velocity,
 Maven and Ant.

 We expect that as Etch becomes available, it will be seen as a very
 compelling technology and others will begin to depend upon it.

 === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===

 We believe Etch offers much to the Apache brand. We could easily, with
 the backing of Cisco, take a more independent route and support Etch
 directly without the Apache foundation. But after much consideration,
 we truly believe that would be the wrong approach for this technology.

 As a technology, we believe Etch is very much a kindred spirit of the
 other software infrastructure technologies currently part of the
 Apache community: Ant, Velocity, Derby, and others. The technological
 niche of Etch--platform and language agnostic service definition and
 binding-is a technology that can be appreciated across a broad range
 software domains.

 It is our view that Apache is simply the most appropriate community
 for the kind of technology Etch represents.

 == Documentation ==

 Public documents are available. All documentation can be found here
 http://developer.cisco.com/web/cuae/etch .

 == Initial Source ==

 Etch has been in development at Cisco since Jan-2007. The system was
 designed from the beginning to be open-sourced.  We consider Etch to
 be at release 1.0 and ready for production use.

 We continue to develop on Etch aggressively and a continually adding
 tests and documentation to accompany the code, in particular around
 Etch's unique pluggable architecture.

 The compiler and language bindings for Java and C# are working and
 functional. Etch will be included in shipping Cisco products in
 Sept-2008 as a core technology component.

 The language bindings for JavaScript, Python and C are in development.
 The Etch development home page is currently hosted a Cisco's developer
 portal: http://developer.cisco.com/web/cuae/etch . Full source and
 binary distributions are available there including access to our
 public subversion repository.

 == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==

 Apache would receive all source and documentation under the Apache
 Corporate Contributor agreement. Cisco is the only license holder.

 == External Dependencies ==

 Java, JavaCC and Velocity are core dependencies of the compiler. The
 Java language binding depends only on Java.

 Ant and Maven are used by the build system.

 For the other language bindings we have the following compile/link
 dependencies:

 C# - Microsoft .NET v2.0 (Mono compatibility coming soon)

 == Cryptography ==

 Etch uses the native capabilities of Java and C# to support TLS as an
 option for the default Etch binary transport protocol.

 == Required Resources ==

 === Mailing Lists ===

  * etch-private
  * etch-dev
  * etch-commits
  * etch-user

 === Subversion Directory ===

  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/etch

 === Issue Tracking ===

  JIRA : Etch (ETCH)

 === Other Resources ===

  None

 == Initial Committers ==


 Gaurav Sandhir  gsandhir at cisco dot com

 J.D. Liau   jliau at cisco dot com

 James Dixsonjadixson at cisco dot com

 James deCocq  jadecocq at cisco dot com

 Rene Barazzarebarraz at cisco dot com

 Scott Comer sccomer at cisco dot com

 Seth Call   secall at cisco dot com

 Youngjin Park youngjpa at cisco dot com

 === Affiliations ===

 All the initial committers are Cisco employees.

 == Sponsors ==

 === Champion ===

 Niclas Hedhman (has offered to be Champion)

 === Nominated Mentors ===

 Niclas Hedhman

 Doug Cutting

 Yonik Seeley

 === Sponsoring Entity ===

 Incubator

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pig 0.1.0-incubating

2008-08-16 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me.

Paul

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:12 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks good to me now, +1.

 One more suggestion for next time is it would be nice to add a sentence to
 the top of the release notes saying what Pig does and to include the release
 notes within the distribution.

   ...ant

 On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Olga Natkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 Apache Pig would like to release Pig 0.1.0-incubating. This is a second
 try. We have changed the NOTICE file to contain copyright statements
 from libraries Pig depends on.

 Since the change is very small, I am starting this thread in parallel
 with the vote on pig-dev mailing list. The MessageId for that thread is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The new artifacts are available at
 http://people.apache.org/~olga/pig-0.1.0-candidate-5/http://people.apache.org/%7Eolga/pig-0.1.0-candidate-5/
 http://people.apache.org/~olga/pig-0.1.0-candidate-5/http://people.apache.org/%7Eolga/pig-0.1.0-candidate-5/
 

 The keys used to sign the release are available at
 /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/pig/KEYS on people.apache.org

 Please vote by 6 pm on Wednesday, 8/20.

 Thanks,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
Niclas

I offered as a backup. I'm perfectly happy for the proposal to go
forwards with the three original mentors. I will probably join the
mailing lists anyway.

Thanks!

Paul

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 On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:16:47 Yonik Seeley wrote:
 And I also qualify on that point.

 Then I am so sorry. As Bill pointed out, it ain't easy to recall exactly who
 are Members and who are not...

 I will adjust the Proposal.

 Paul, do you still want to be Mentor??


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
James

I'm +1 for incubation. I see you have three mentors, but if at some
future point you need another mentor, I would be very happy to step
in.

Regards,
Paul

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Niklas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:16 PM, James Dixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator.

 See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates.

 +1 for incubation (non-binding). While I find this area to be a bit
 overcrowded lately, having both Etch and Thrift at Apache and Protocol
 buffers under ASL 2.0 does offer some interesting opportunities for
 competition as well as cooperation.

 I do share the concerns about naming conflicts. Debian is by far more
 well known and trying to establish this project under a conflicting
 name would be hard.

 /niklas

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Re: [VOTE] accept Tashi into the Incubator

2008-08-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 and I also volunteer to mentor.

Paul

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1

 Looks like you're short a Mentor. I will volunteer if no one minds.

 Craig

 On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Doug Cutting wrote:

 Please vote on accepting Tashi into the Incubator.

 Tashi's proposal is at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TashiProposal

 Thanks!

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
 at cisco dot com
 Hung Nguyen   hungng at cisco dot com
 James Dixsonjadixson at cisco dot com
 James deCocq  jadecocq at cisco dot com
 Louis Marascio  lmarasci at cisco dot com
 Manoj Ganesan   manogane at cisco dot com
 Rene Barazzarebarraz at cisco dot com
 Rick Bolkey rbolkey at cisco dot com
 Scott Comer sccomer at cisco dot com
 Seth Call   secall at cisco dot com
 Shawn Dempsay   shawn at dempsay dot com
 Shyamali Pease  shpease at cisco dot com
 Youngjin Park youngjpa at cisco dot com

 == Affiliations

 All the initial committers are Cisco employees.

 = Sponsors

 == Champion

 We need a hero!

 == Nominated Mentors

 Accepting Applications!

 == Sponsoring Entity

 Accepting Applications!

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Etch

2008-08-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yes that was the paragraph I was referring to.

Paul

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM, James Dixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul,

 Are you referring to the SOAP/Web Services offer an interesting comparison
 ... paragraph?

 If so, then I agree it is probably redundant to the Etch rationale and I can
 remove it.

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 On 8/1/08 12:34 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James

 I know its popular to bash SOAP at this point, but there are simple
 factual inaccuracies in your why not SOAP section. Rather than argue
 about the details I'd like to point out that this section is
 redundant. Do you really feel you need this in there? If you do I'll
 start listing your inaccuracies.

 Paul

 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM, James Dixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This a proposal to enter Etch in to the incubator.

 See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal for updates.

 In particular, we are looking for an interested Champion.

 We welcome any and all comments. :-)


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 -proposal-
 = Abstract

 Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent framework for
 building and consuming network services.

 = Proposal

 Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent framework for
 building and consuming network services. The Etch toolset includes a network
 service description language, a compiler, and binding libraries for a
 variety of programming languages. Etch is also transport-independent,
 allowing for a variety of different transports to used based on need and
 circumstance. The goal of Etch is to make it simple to define small, focused
 services that can be easily accessed, combined, and deployed in a similar
 manner. Ultimately with Etch, service development and consumption becomes no
 more difficult than library development and consumption.

 = Background

 Etch was started because we wanted to have a way to write a concise, formal
 description of the message exchange between a client and a server, with that
 message exchange supporting a hefty set of requirements. The messaging
 technology should support one-way and two-way, real-time communication. It
 should have high performance and scalability. I should support clients and
 servers written in different languages. It should also support
 clients/servers running in a wide range of contexts (such as thin web
 client, embedded device, PC application, or server). It must support anyone
 adding new language bindings and new transports. It should also be fast and
 small, while still being flexible enough to satisfy requirements. Finally,
 it must be easy to use for developers both implementing and/or consuming the
 service.

 = Rationale

 Existing systems were either too slow, hard to use, bloated and/or
 proprietary. In any case, none fit our matrix of requirements perfectly.

 SOAP/Web Services offer an interesting comparison by contrast. While Web
 Services are generally accepted as the de facto standard for cross-platform
 communication due to strong adoption across many tools and languages, the
 unfortunate reality is that Web Services have serious deficiencies which
 make them unsuitable for real-time communications. Specifically, Web
 Services have no effective way to communicate asynchronously from server to
 client due to a reliance on HTTP and have very high parsing overhead due to
 XML message bodies. Furthermore, in some deployments, server-to-client
 communications are blocked by firewalls. Finally, given any two languages,
 it is not likely that they both support every aspect of Web Services
 identically, so it is completely possible to create a Web Service that is
 not, in fact, cross platform, or language agnostic.

 Developers of applications that must leverage the capabilities of
 network-hosted services have a daunting challenge. They must cobble together
 a heterogeneous collection of services that expose different APIs with
 different communications technologies just to integrate with the services,
 essentially spending a great deal of energy and effort on just the basics of
 inter-service communication rather than core business logic.

 So the desired state then is when developing applications that leverage the
 capabilities of dispersed and heterogeneous network services, APIs must be
 simple, cohesive, and coherent across network services. APIs should be easy
 to consume by developers regardless of the implementation technology of the
 service used or the domain a service is being built within- from client-side
 web applications to complex real-time server systems. Put simply, developers
 ideally should feel that they are developing to a platform.

 API development is a much better understood and simpler subject if you are
 building those APIs to be run _locally_ on a single machine or service.
 Microsoft and Linux centric API developers have the luxury of the massive
 assumption that a standard OS is available with a certain set of features,
 and the API

Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release

2008-06-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me, and yes now that you have three +1's plus three days you
can call the results.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 07:35:44AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 I don't think you need votes from *all* your mentors to pass the
 release vote, but having no mentor votes (which has now been fixed by
 Ted's vote) was worrying.

 This confuses me a little, I thought that to pass the Incubator VOTE we needed
 three +1 votes, and that committers votes are non-binding.

 We have three +1 votes now and three days has passed, can I call the results?

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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release

2008-06-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
You should send the announcement to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 04:58:53PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
 +1 from me, and yes now that you have three +1's plus three days you
 can call the results.

 Fantastic.

 I have been looking at:

  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements

 Once I call the results and move the artifacts to www.apache.org/dist what
 list(s) should I post the release announcement to and are there any specific
 requirements (or good examples) for what should be included?

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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release

2008-06-24 Thread Paul Fremantle
My vote is binding. As for release announcements, you do not (afaik)
need to get them approved by the PRC. They should however, clearly
call the project Apache CouchDB, and also include the standard
incubation disclaimer.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
 You should send the announcement to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
 list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
 like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.

 Okay, great. Thanks.

 Paul, is your vote binding? Without it we only have two +1 votes.

 If Paul's vote is not binding do we have to wait for Jim?

 Secondly, we were concerned with the following:


  A podling MUST now be called Apache Podling-Name (see Naming below). A 
 podling
  and affiliated persons can issue press releases that reference the podling,
  but cannot issue press releases with the specific intent of announcing the
  Podling. Podling can conduct informal pr activities, such as media outreach,
  blog publicity, etc. The ASF will not issue any press releases for any 
 podling
  at this stage. However, the Public Relations Committee MUST review any
  releases by affiliated organizations or groups to ensure they comply with
  these branding guidelines.

  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html

 Does this apply to the release announcements?

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Re: [VOTE] Publish Apache Sling

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Carsten

Did you run the RAT tool on this?

Paul

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Apache Sling community voted on and has approved a proposal to release
 Apache Sling. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation
 Policy we would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to
 publish the tarball on the Sling Download page (this will be
 http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/download.html).

 You can see in the Sling mailing list that we had quiet a lot discussions
 about the legal aspects (NOTICE and LICENSE files mainly) which caused us to
 cancel the vote, fix the issues and cut new candidates twice. But with the
 help from Roy (Fielding), we have now a candidate that fulfills the
 requirements and that we all unanimously agree on.

 As the vote result mail is not in the mail archives yet (there seems to be
 some delay), here's the result:
 --
 The vote on the release of Apache Sling passed successfully with twelve +1
 votes from:

 Christophe Lombart (*)
 Carsten Ziegeler (*)
 Dominique Jäggi
 Paul Noden
 Juan José Vázquez Delgado (*)
 Greg Klebus
 Padraic Hannon (*)
 Felix Meschberger (*)
 Erik Buene
 Bertrand Delacretaz (*)
 Jukka Zitting (*)
 Karl Pauls (*)

 The people marked with * are members of the PPMC.

 No other votes were cast.
 ---

 Please cast your votes!

 Thanks
 Carsten

 Proposal, vote thread and vote result:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sling-dev/200806.mbox/[EMAIL
  PROTECTED]

 Releases section of the Incubation Policy:
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases

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Re: [VOTE] Publish Apache Sling

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
I know you don't need it, but here is my +1.

Paul

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The vote on the release of Apache Sling passed successfully with twelve +1
 votes...

 Of those, the following 3 people are Incubator PMC members:

 Carsten Ziegeler (*)
 Bertrand Delacretaz (*)
 Jukka Zitting (*)

 So, according to the recent policy clarifications [1], I think we only
 need to keep this vote open for 72 hours, more +1s in this thread are
 not required to release (although they're obviously welcome if people
 want to have a look).

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Incubate JSecurity Project

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

pAUL

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1

 Craig

 On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

 Relevant information can be found in:

 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JSecurityProposal


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuscany Graduation as TLP

2008-05-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Congratulations and good luck with the board!

Paul

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:54 PM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its been 5 days now so I'm going to call this...passed with 19 +1s from:

 Noel J. Bergman, Carl Trieloff, Niklas Gustavsson, Robert Burrell Donkin,
 Niall Pemberton, Jean T. Anderson, Craig L Russell, Paul Fremantle, Kevan
 Miller, Guillaume Nodet, Vamsavardhana Reddy, Sam Ruby, Martijn Dashorst,
 Matthieu Riou, Davanum Srinivas, William A. Rowe, Jr., Bertrand Delacretaz

 Many many thanks to everyone for all the help during the incubation.

   ...ant

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After 29 months in the incubator, 19 releases, 25 new committers, and
 tons of emails the Apache Tuscany community (with support from our
 mentors) again feels that we are ready to graduate to an official top
 level project at Apache as indicated by the community vote recorded
 at: http://apache.markmail.org/message/lss5jhjxail7m67r

 We would like the resolution below to be presented to the board for
 consideration at the next possible board meeting.

 For additional information, the Tuscany status file is here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/STATUS

 Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

   ...ant

 X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
 purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
 the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
 distribution at no charge to the public, that simplifies the
 development, deployment and management of distributed applications
 built as compositions of service components. These components
 may be implemented with a range of technologies and connected
 using a variety of communication protocols. This software will
 implement relevant open standards including, but not limited to,
 the Service Component Architecture standard defined by the OASIS
 OpenCSA member section, and related technologies.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Tuscany Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to Apache Tuscany;
 and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Tuscany Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Tuscany Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Tuscany Project:

* Adriano Crestani adrianocrestani at apache dot org
* ant elder antelder at apache dot org
* Brady Johnson bjohnson at apache dot org
* Frank Budinsky frankb at apache dot org
* Ignacio Silva-Lepe isilval at apache dot org
* Jean-Sebastien Delfino jsdelfino at apache dot org
* kelvin goodson kelvingoodson at apache dot org
* Luciano Resende lresende at apache dot org
* Mark Combellack mcombellack at apache dot org
* Matthieu Riou mriou at apache dot org
* Mike Edwards edwardsmj at apache dot org
* Paul Fremantle pzf at apache dot org
* Pete Robbins robbinspg at apache dot org
* Raymond Feng rfeng at apache dot org
* Simon Laws slaws at apache dot org
* Simon Nash nash at apache dot org
* Venkata Krishnan svkrish at apache dot org

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Ant Elder
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Tuscany podling; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Tuscany podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.





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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuscany Graduation as TLP

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Fremantle
Here's my +1 again. I think the Tuscany team has come a long way and I
believe we can hold this up as an example of the incubator really
providing good governance to incoming podlings.

Paul

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1

 --kevan
 On May 14, 2008, at 2:51 PM, ant elder wrote:

 After 29 months in the incubator, 19 releases, 25 new committers, and
 tons of emails the Apache Tuscany community (with support from our
 mentors) again feels that we are ready to graduate to an official top
 level project at Apache as indicated by the community vote recorded
 at: http://apache.markmail.org/message/lss5jhjxail7m67r

 We would like the resolution below to be presented to the board for
 consideration at the next possible board meeting.

 For additional information, the Tuscany status file is here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/STATUS

 Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

  ...ant

 X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's
 purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with
 the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
 distribution at no charge to the public, that simplifies the
 development, deployment and management of distributed applications
 built as compositions of service components. These components
 may be implemented with a range of technologies and connected
 using a variety of communication protocols. This software will
 implement relevant open standards including, but not limited to,
 the Service Component Architecture standard defined by the OASIS
 OpenCSA member section, and related technologies.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Tuscany Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to Apache Tuscany;
 and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Tuscany Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Tuscany Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Tuscany Project:

   * Adriano Crestani adrianocrestani at apache dot org
   * ant elder antelder at apache dot org
   * Brady Johnson bjohnson at apache dot org
   * Frank Budinsky frankb at apache dot org
   * Ignacio Silva-Lepe isilval at apache dot org
   * Jean-Sebastien Delfino jsdelfino at apache dot org
   * kelvin goodson kelvingoodson at apache dot org
   * Luciano Resende lresende at apache dot org
   * Mark Combellack mcombellack at apache dot org
   * Matthieu Riou mriou at apache dot org
   * Mike Edwards edwardsmj at apache dot org
   * Paul Fremantle pzf at apache dot org
   * Pete Robbins robbinspg at apache dot org
   * Raymond Feng rfeng at apache dot org
   * Simon Laws slaws at apache dot org
   * Simon Nash nash at apache dot org
   * Venkata Krishnan svkrish at apache dot org

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Ant Elder
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Tuscany podling; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Tuscany podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Qpid M2.1

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
My +1 from the original vote remains! :)

Paul

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
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 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm pleased to say that Apache Qpid is ready to ask for IPMC approval
 for it's 3rd release from the incubator, M2.1

 +1

 As noted in a separate thread, there's a typo in
 ./java/resources/META-INF/NOTICE in the source code archive, license
 type (which according to Aidan is BSD) for https://msv.dev.java.net/
 is missing. I don't think that's a blocker for an incubating release.

 -Bertrand

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Re: JSecurity Champion Recruitment

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Fremantle
I also volunteer to mentor this project.

Paul

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Les Hazlewood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan, this is fantastic news!

 Thanks so much for offering your time and experience.  We're really
 looking forward to your input - we'd prefer not to contribute to any
 scars ;)

 Cheers,

 Les

 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Alan D. Cabrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a fair bit of experience hand holding projects through the incubator
 and have the scars to prove it.  ;)

  I'm happy to help you all through and be your Champion and Mentor.  I'll
 sign up on your lists to field any questions that you may have.  I'd like to
 ask a few questions there to make sure that you'll be happy here before we
 embark on incubation.


  Regards,
  Alan



  On May 7, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:


 
 
 
  Hello all,
 
  I've been a lurker for a while, attempting to get an overall feel for
  the incubator process, and this is my first foray into (hopefully)
  making things a reality for our project, JSecurity.
 
  JSecurity (http://www.jsecurity.org/) is a powerful and flexible
  open-source Java security framework that cleanly handles
  authentication, authorization, enterprise session management and
  cryptography.
 
  Our mission is to provide the most robust and comprehensive Java
  security framework available while also being very easy to understand
  and extremely simple to use.
 
  The JSecurity development team has discussed at length about what it
  means to become an Apache project and what it would mean for our team
  and the future direction of the project.  After having read the
  incubator processes and policies at length, we are now prepared to
  engage with the ASF.  This is our formal attempt at recruiting a
  Champion in the hopes of acquiring guidance into the proposal phase,
  understanding the ASF in more detail and maybe eventually becoming a
  podling.
 
  Mission Statement  project origins: http://www.jsecurity.org/about
  High level features overview: http://www.jsecurity.org/features
  Community support - forums, mailing lists, jira:
  http://www.jsecurity.org/support
 
  JSecurity is Apache 2.0 licensed.
 
  Thank you for any feedback and recommendations.  We look forward to
  your responses.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Les Hazlewood
  JSecurity lead  project founder
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Tuscany Java SCA 1.2-incubating

2008-04-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1

Paul

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:


  The Apache Tuscany project request IPMC permission to release the Java
   SCA 1.2-incubating. The vote thread is here ...
  
   http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg30405.html
  
   The artifacts are available for review at:
   
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende/tuscany/sca-1.2-RC4/http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende/tuscany/sca-1.2-RC4/

 
   This includes the signed binary and source distributions, the RAT report,
   and the Maven staging repository.
  
   The eclipse updatesite for the Tuscany Eclipse plugins is available at:
   
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende/tuscany/sca-1.2-RC4/updatesite/http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende/tuscany/sca-1.2-RC4/updatesite/

 
   The release tag is available at :
   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/tags/java/sca/1.2-RC4/
  

  +1

  Matthieu


  
   --

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Re: More timely release reviews? (was: Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.2-incubating

2008-04-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'll review the release. However, I would like to see the mentors +1's
on this vote as well. The fact is that the incubator is a wide group
with disparate interests and it is incumbent on the mentors to be the
primary contacts for any podling.

Paul

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:31 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The poor UIMA guys have been trying to get this release approved for nearly
  two weeks now and it still has just a single vote. Could a couple of other
  IPMCers take a look and vote?

...ant

  On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Marshall Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hello Incubator PMC -
  
   Thank you for your reviews of this; please do not confuse this with
   another release vote just posted for the UIMA Add-on package, which is
   another piece of the project, moving forward under a separate packaging and
   vote.
  
   For this vote, so far we have 1 +1 vote (only).  Could some others please
   review and cast their votes?
  
   Thanks again. -Marshall Schor
  
  
   Michael Baessler wrote:
  
The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission
to publish a new bug fix
release of Apache UIMA version 2.2.2. This release contains bug fixes of
for release version 2.2.1
that was published in December 2007. For details about the fixes, please
have a look at the release
notes.
   
We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
   

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200804.mbox/[EMAIL
  PROTECTED]
   
Please review the release candidate here:

 http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.2/05/http://people.apache.org/%7Embaessler/uimaj-2.2.2/05/
   
There are subdirectories like:
/bin - contains the binary distribution files
/src - contains the source distribution files
/rat - contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some comments
   
The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
   

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.2/uimaj-2.2.2-05
   
The KEYS file can be found in the SVN at:
   

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/trunk/uimaj-distr/src/main/readme/KEYS
   
Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.2
[ ] -1  No, because
   
Thanks!
   
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Re: [VOTE] Approve the 1.1 release of Tuscany SDO

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me.

Paul

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:59 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Should have voted myself, so +1.

  Anyone else able to review and vote on this?

...ant


  On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:10 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Please vote to approve the 1.1 release of Tuscany SDO.
  
   This is RC4 fixing the issues found in the previous RC2. The release
   artifacts including source and binary distributions, maven staging
   repository, and RAT report are at:
   
 http://people.apache.org/~antelder/tuscany/sdo/1.1-rc4ahttp://people.apache.org/%7Eantelder/tuscany/sdo/1.1-rc4a


 
   The tag for the release is at:
   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/tags/java/sdo/1.1/
  
   KEYS file is at: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/KEYS
  
   The tuscany-dev list vote thread is at:
   http://apache.markmail.org/message/xgaeb7klnsfdkrmx
  
   Many thanks,
  
  ...ant
  
  




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Re: [VOTE] Release Abdera 0.4.0-incubating Take 7

2008-04-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
Is this a vote yet? I'm +1!

Paul

PS I'll be stocking up on the I survived the incubator and all they
gave me was this dumb t-shirt t-shirts for the Abdera team :)

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:24 PM, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dan's added the missing md5's.

  - James


  Martijn Dashorst wrote:

  On 4/7/08, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Not critical. We can generate the md5 files for the zip files and make
   those available with the final release.
  
 
  I tend to disagree here. How can we tell the file hasn't been updated
  in the mean time? Or that the version Sebb has downloaded is the same
  as you have published?
 
  IMO the .md5 files are an essential part of a release.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Abdera 0.4.0-incubating Take 7

2008-04-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
  Two of the tests fail on IBM Java 6:
  java version 1.6.0
  Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pwi3260-20071123_01)
  IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 Windows XP x86-32
  jvmwi3260-20071121_15015 (JIT enabled)

I'm assuming you do not count this as a blocker on the release? My
understanding is that compliance with different JDKs is something the
project decides on and that the IPMC's concern is simply whether this
is a legally valid release that meets Apache rules.

Paul
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Re: Statements from Qpid mentors would help me decide... [WAS Re: [VOTE] Apache Qpid Graduation as TLP]

2008-03-25 Thread Paul Fremantle
Guillaume

That is a little misleading. Committers can and do have binding votes.
However, there are some things such as releases that must have PMC
binding votes.

Paul

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The project means the people that can vote and make decisions.
  Committers who are not PMC members can not as their vote is not binding.



  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Martijn Dashorst
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 It is not a question of who is active on the list, but how the
 PMC/committership looks like at graduation. All the names you supplied
 are *not* on the PMC, and therefore don't count for the diversity
 requirement.
  
   I was under the impression that it was the committership that was
   looked at, not the PPMC. Am I misreading The project is not highly
   dependent on any single contributor (there are at least 3 legally
   independent committers and there is no single company or entity that
   is vital to the success of the project) from
   http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html ?
  
   - Aidan
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Re: Statements from Qpid mentors would help me decide... [WAS Re: [VOTE] Apache Qpid Graduation as TLP]

2008-03-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yoav

I have to say I think you have given a very good analysis. I think
that QPid has come a huge way towards Apacheness. Diversity is not as
great as it could be but meets the Incubator criteria. I support the
QPid graduation because I think that QPid is doing the right things in
the right way, and I have offered to join the PPMC to continue
offering advice in the future.

Paul

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At this point the Apache Qpid community with support from its mentors 
  feels that
  it is ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache
  

   but another voice asks: are they really ready today? has the IPMC
fully equipped them for the chanlleges ahead? do they really
understand how to mentor new independent developers into committers
and PMCers? is the diversity sufficient to have learnt how to have
disagreements on technical matters whilst retaining community spirit?

  It's a hard call for me as well.  The technical bits are all there,
  processes followed, paperwork filed, etc.  More importantly, the qpid
  community has been open, receptive to feedback from everyone inside
  and outside their group, welcoming to new opinions from new people,
  and respectful of ASF spirit, not just its letter.  There are
  disagreements and debates on various technical matters without hurting
  the community.  That's why I support their graduation.

  It would have been really nice if one or two more committers from new
  organizations had been added during the previous few months, but that
  didn't happen.  But I don't think the fact the committers come from a
  small set of organizations necessarily means there's no diversity.
  And I don't want to introduce artificial requirements.  The are they
  really ready question is subjective by definition, and it's a good
  one, but I still vote +1 ;)

  Yoav



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Re: [VOTE] Apache CXF Graduation as TLP

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me. Congratulations guys!

Paul

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

  
   After 20 months in the incubator, 6 releases complete and 2 more on
   the
   way shortly, several new committers, and too much email traffic :-),
   the
   Apache CXF community (with support from our mentors) feels that we are
   ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache as
   indicated by the community vote recorded at:
   
 http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--Graduate-Apache-CXF-as-a-top-level-project-to15812722.html
  
   We would like the resolution attached to this email to be presented to
   the board for consideration at the next possible board meeting.
  
   For additional information, the CXF status file is here:
   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cxf.html
  
   Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
  
   [ ] +1
   [ ] +0
   [ ] -1

  +1

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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
Cesar

The Tuscany project is aiming to have the following charter:
charged with
   the creation and maintenance of open-source software that
   simplifies the development and deployment of service oriented
   applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime
   based on the standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA group,
   for distribution at no charge to the public.

Are you saying that SDO falls out of that scope?

Paul

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Cezar Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In my opinion SCA and SDO are two completely different technologies,
  even if they can be used together, they address different problems and
  as specifications they are developed separately.

  I think there are a lot of people looking only at SDO for their
  projects, and I'm sure there are others looking at SCA without SDO. I
  think having each community focus on their goals would help getting
  better organized, develop and independently graduate.

  Other than the technology/community point of view, the SDO code is not
  dependent on SCA code and as Ant Elder pointed out on Tuscany-user list
  (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02505.html )
  the new infrastructure would seem a better fit.

  Cezar


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  Cezar
  
   I don't think anyone has suggested this code is a fork from Tuscany,
   but thank you for making this completely clear.
  
   Is there any reason you aren't willing to do this work under the
   existing scope of the Tuscany Incubator project?
  
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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Fremantle
Actually I'm wrong

The correct wording (I think) is:

..establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
 and maintenance of open-source software for distribution at no charge
 to the public, that simplifies the development, deployment and management
 of distributed applications built as compositions of service components.
 These components may be implemented with a range of technologies and
 connected using a variety of communication protocols. This software will
 implement relevant open standards including, but not limited to, the
 SCA and SDO standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA member section.

Same question applies.

Paul

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cesar

  The Tuscany project is aiming to have the following charter:
  charged with
the creation and maintenance of open-source software that
simplifies the development and deployment of service oriented
applications and provides a managed service-oriented runtime
based on the standards defined by the OASIS OpenCSA group,
for distribution at no charge to the public.

  Are you saying that SDO falls out of that scope?

  Paul



  On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Cezar Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   In my opinion SCA and SDO are two completely different technologies,
even if they can be used together, they address different problems and
as specifications they are developed separately.
  
I think there are a lot of people looking only at SDO for their
projects, and I'm sure there are others looking at SCA without SDO. I
think having each community focus on their goals would help getting
better organized, develop and independently graduate.
  
Other than the technology/community point of view, the SDO code is not
dependent on SCA code and as Ant Elder pointed out on Tuscany-user list
(http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02505.html )
the new infrastructure would seem a better fit.
  
Cezar
  
  
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Cezar

 I don't think anyone has suggested this code is a fork from Tuscany,
 but thank you for making this completely clear.

 Is there any reason you aren't willing to do this work under the
 existing scope of the Tuscany Incubator project?

 Paul

  
  
  
  
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Re: [VOTE] Accept CouchDB for incubation

2008-02-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
] (MIT)
  * [http://www.erlang.org/ Erlang] (Erlang Public License)
  * [http://www.mozilla.org/js/spidermonkey/ SpiderMonkey] (Mozilla
  Public License)
 
  === Cryptography ===
  Not applicable
 
  === Required Resources ===
  * Mailing lists:
* couchdb-pmc for private PMC discussions (with moderated subscriptions)
* couchdb-dev
* couchdb-commits
* couchdb-user
  * Subversion Directory:
* https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/couchdb
  * Issue Tracking:
* JIRA couchdb
 
  === Initial Committers ===
  * William Beh
  * Damien Katz
  * Jan Lehnardt
  * Christopher Lenz
  * Sam Ruby
  * Dirk Schalge
  * Noah Slater
 
  == Sponsors ==
 
  === Champion ===
  Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  === Nominated Mentors ===
  * Jim Jagielski
  * Gianugo Rabellino
  * Ted Leung
 
  === Sponsoring Entity ===
  The Apache Incubator
 
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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-04 Thread Paul Fremantle
Stefan

Thanks for the clearly thought out answer.

Paul

On Feb 4, 2008 5:55 AM, Stefan Hepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul,
 I still think it is of value doing RIs at Apache, because it makes the
 standard that is implemented more open and easier to consume.

 I also think that the new JCP process allows to do it more inline with
 Apache rules, however it still requires some special treatment (and some
 additional patience) as many of the decisions are done via the JSR EG
 and not on the Apache mailing list.

 Another major issue is that from the JCP point of view the spec lead is
 responsible for providing the RI when submitting the final spec and thus
 needs to ensure that the RI gets finished in time. Therefore the
 situation that Endre criticizes, that committers from one company are
 very active in one phase of the project and then disappear, arise if
 the community is not focused on the new release (e.g. in case of Pluto
 2.0), but trying to stabilize and finalize the current version (Pluto
 1.1). On the other hand that is also a decision of the community, the
 more active they are on the new versions, the less code the spec-lead
 company needs to contribute.


 Stefan

  Stefan
 
  Thank you for you insights and response.
 
  Maybe the interesting question is whether you think - based on your
  experience - if is is really appropriate to try to create a JCP RI as
  an Apache incubator project?
 
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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
Leo

I am a mentor with Tuscany. I'm not concerned about where Tuscany is
now... I think its growing well and is progressing towards graduation.
However, Tuscany did have a significant fork a while back and this new
proposal has completely confused me: basically its a proposal for part
of what's already being coded in Tuscany by the two companies who
couldn't agree to do it together in Tuscany. As a mentor I feel like
raking this up isn't particularly good for Tuscany, but the fact is
that the new proposal does need addressing in the light of existing
podlings.

Paul

On Feb 2, 2008 2:47 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote:
  Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard
  questions!

 Nah, it's mostly because the mail threading on this thingie was
 broken a few times. It makes things hard to follow. Simon -- please
 use that reply-to button in your mailer.

 The other immediate problem is the quality of the proposal text. If
 this is to go forward, please rewrite the proposal so that it can be
 readily evaluated by someone who can never remember what Tuscany is
 exactly, is in denial that there's still such a thing as the JCP or
 JSRs coming out of it, and has a healthy bias against fluffy java
 framework stuff.

  Perhaps you can explain why this effort isn't being rolled into the
  Tuscany work.

 So...is anyone else getting completely confused here?

 You're one of the tuscany mentors, right Paul? Could you explain what
 has been happening in tuscany-land that has you so concerned? I do
 vaguely remember some kind of problems back in November...what has
 been happening since

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2007

 ?

 cheers,

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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
Meeraj, Jeremy

Please read my note again. At no point did I say or imply that BEA led
anything. The only thing I said about BEA was:
the two companies who couldn't agree to do it together in Tuscany.

Is there anything incorrect about that statement? I'm willing to be
corrected if I'm wrong.

Paul

On Feb 3, 2008 3:20 PM, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Meeraj Kunnumpurath wrote:

  Paul,
 
  The fork on Tuscany was not instigated by BEA. Of the three committers
  who decided to leave Tuscany, due to technical differences and
  otherwise, only Jim Marino was employed by BEA. Myself and Jeremy
  Boynes were independent committers, though, Jeremy was employed by IBM
  and leading the development effort when they started on Tuscany.

 Leading is a bit strong as I always viewed it as a community project.
 Apart from that I'll second Meeraj here in saying that the fork was
 not instigated by BEA but sprang from our individual frustrations.

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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
Stefan

Thank you for you insights and response.

Maybe the interesting question is whether you think - based on your
experience - if is is really appropriate to try to create a JCP RI as
an Apache incubator project?

Paul

On Feb 1, 2008 11:11 AM, Stefan Hepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 here my response to Endre's mail
 (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200801.mbox/[EMAIL
  PROTECTED]):

 about Pluto V 1.x:
 Due to the JCP process guidelines at that time you could not have early
 public drafts and thus you are correct that the RI got to Apache very
 late. However, we discussed this with people from Apache and we also
 went through the incubation process. It would have always been an option
 to not accept the project.
 It is not true that after the JSR was final everything stopped. In fact
 once we had finished 1.0 there was still work done to get to a more
 stable 1.0.1 release. After that the pluto community re-structed the
 code which led to the pluto 1.1 stream, so you can see that it was an
 active community not only some code drop.
 Also in my view pluto was a success, take a look at all the projects
 using the pluto container: http://portals.apache.org/pluto/powered.html.

 about JSR 286/Pluto 2.0:
 Besides myself there are 4 people from Apache projects sitting in the
 JSR 286 EG and now that the JCP supports early public drafts we
 published early drafts more than a year ago and started the development
 of 2.0 directly at Apache. It is also based on the new 1.1 codestream
 that the Apache community created.

 I think you should also consider the view points of companies donating
 work and code to Apache. In my opinion  it would have been much cheaper
 for IBM to just put the RI out there on some server instead of going to
 Apache. We went to Apache because we wanted the portlet standard to be
 widespread and easy to adopt by everyone.


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Re: [VOTE] Accept PDFBox for incubation

2008-02-01 Thread Paul Fremantle
 Mentors

  * Jukka Zitting
  * Jeremias Maerki
  * Niall Pemberton

 Sponsoring Entity

  * Apache Incubator PMC

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Re: [VOTE] Release Tuscany Java SCA 1.1-incubating (RC3a)

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 from me (IPMC, Mentor)

Paul

On Jan 31, 2008 1:09 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2008 10:25 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  +1
 
...ant
 
  On Jan 27, 2008 8:17 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   A new release candidate has been created to address comments made on the
   IPMC Tuscany Java SCA 1.1-incubating RC3 VOTE thread on general@
  
   http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg16483.html
  
   The follow changes have been made to create RC3a
  
   - where possible remove the work files that are included in the
   distribution
   in error.
   - make the tag more closely match the distributions by removing modules
   and
   files from the tag that are not strictly required in the distribution
   - remove the lower level NOTICE and LICENSE files from, for example,
   demos/mortgage-loanapproval/src/main/resources/META-INF as these are not
   actually required and are  causing confusion.
   - update the LICENSE file to provided version numbers for all jars (and
   correct the ones pointed out)
  
   Some small changes that just missed RC3 have also been included
  
   added - demos/alert-aggregator-webapp/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/geronimo-
   web.xml - to make the demo run on Geronimo
   updated - demos/bigbank-account/build.xml - fixed a variable name
   updated - demos/secure-bigbank/secure-bigbank-account/build.xml - fixed
  a
   variable name
  
   Please review and vote on the 1.1 release artifacts of Tuscany SCA for
   Java.
  
   The SVN tag for the release is:
  
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/tags/java/sca/1.1-RC3a/
  
   The artifacts are available for review at:
   http://people.apache.org/~slaws/tuscany/1.1-RC3a/http://people.apache.org/%7Eslaws/tuscany/1.1-RC3a/
  http://people.apache.org/%7Eslaws/tuscany/1.1-RC3a/
  
   This includes the signed binary and source distributions, the RAT
  report,
   and the Maven staging repository.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Simon
  
 
 Hi,

 This vote has passed with 6 +1s from the following committers:

 Simon Laws
 Luciano Resende
 Venkata Krishnan
 Simon Nash
 Jean-Sebastien Delfino
 Ant Elder

 No 0 or -1 votes are recorded.

 Thanks everyone for taking the time to review 1.1 again.

 The IPMC vote continues in parallel and is due to complete later today.

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Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Kelvin, NoNameProposers

Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard
questions! So here I go:

Perhaps you can explain why this effort isn't being rolled into the
Tuscany work.

There are some obvious reasons why I am confused by this proposal:

1. Tuscany already has the objective of producing code for SDO, and
already has code for SDO.
2. Tuscany was another proposal to the IPMC predominantly coming from
IBM and BEA employees.
3. The BEA committers left Tuscany and created a fork elsewhere
3. Tuscany has been identified as lacking diversity.

Why will this project gain diversity when Tuscany is finding it hard?
This move seems designed to make it even harder for both Tuscany and
NNYP to get diversity by splitting the pool of potential committers
even more thinly.

I did read the paragraph on the relationship to Tuscany but I'm afraid
I came out more confused.

I'm sure there are more hard questions but I think that's enough to be
going on with.

Regards,
Paul

On Jan 31, 2008 9:47 AM, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NoNameYetProposal

 That's what you get for employing reuse tactics -- gmail remembers the
 original URL.  I've been caught by this before, so I thought I had taken
 appropriate action to avoid this behaviour, but sadly not so, apologies.
 Kelvin

 On 31/01/2008, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  We've posted an Apache Incubator proposal onto the incubator wiki
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NoNameYetProposal
 
  We haven't got a good name yet,  SandStorm is a contender, as is Snowdon
 
  Suggestions and comments welcome,
 
  Kelvin.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] CouchDB incubator project

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
I volunteer to help mentor this project.

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On Jan 31, 2008 4:29 PM, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds very interesting. I'd certainly watch this project and
 contribute to it if time permits.


 On Jan 31, 2008 8:10 AM, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Jan 31, 2008 5:40 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The goal is to create either an Apache top level project, or a db
   subproject, around the existing CouchDB open source project.
 
  Brilliant, I knew it! (see comment #3 in [1] :-)
 
  It's good so see more semi-structured storage solutions coming to Apache.
 
  I'd be interested in mentoring, but with PDFBox and potentially
  something about WebDAV coming up I'm afraid I probably won't have
  enough cycles for CouchDB.
 
  [1] 
  http://dev.day.com/microsling/content/blogs/main/yourdataisyourserver.html
 
  BR,
 
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Fremantle
Niclas

I also had exactly the same thoughts on reading the email. I think
learning that committership is a position of trust is a key part of
the incubation process.

So I'm +1 on the proposal, but I would definitely be -1 on graduation
if such a scheme were to be implemented during incubation.

Paul

On Jan 30, 2008 9:35 AM, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 January 2008 15:24, Mark Slee wrote:
  What we'd really
  like to set up here is a system where there are different people with
  committer priveleges to different parts of the project.

 Hmmm... I would oppose this for two reasons;

  1. Creating boundaries within a project, yet collaborate on the PMC level
 seems odd to me. Either people are entrusted within the project (committer
 rights) or they are not (no committer rights). If you think that a Thrift
 Java programmer will mess up the Ruby Thrift code, then you have bigger
 problems to deal with, IMHO.

  2. Some people will eventually become fluent in more than one of these. Are
 you now going to start a VOTE on granting access to such member to another
 part of the project? Who is to decide that? The people involved in that
 language only or the whole PMC (ignoring for a fact that ASF has rules for
 this)? I can't see it work in practice.

 So if you drop that idea, I can vote in favour of incubating this project.


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Re: moving a failed incubation project

2008-01-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
 The main point in this discussion is that not changing the package
 names is not illegal, but it's definitely uncool and goes against a
 pretty well adhered to convention.
+1

 Legally, all we can do is ask them
 to change the package names and if they don't, there's nothing we can
 do (at least that's what we're hearing from other folks in this
 discussion).

I agree that's the legal situation.

But I'm not even sure we have consensus in this group that we should
even *ask* them to change the package names.

Paul

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