Yoav I have to say I think you have given a very good analysis. I think that QPid has come a huge way towards Apacheness. Diversity is not as great as it could be but meets the Incubator criteria. I support the QPid graduation because I think that QPid is doing the right things in the right way, and I have offered to join the PPMC to continue offering advice in the future.
Paul On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At this point the Apache Qpid community with support from its mentors > > feels that > > > it is ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache > > > > > but another voice asks: are they really ready today? has the IPMC > > fully equipped them for the chanlleges ahead? do they really > > understand how to mentor new independent developers into committers > > and PMCers? is the diversity sufficient to have learnt how to have > > disagreements on technical matters whilst retaining community spirit? > > It's a hard call for me as well. The technical bits are all there, > processes followed, paperwork filed, etc. More importantly, the qpid > community has been open, receptive to feedback from everyone inside > and outside their group, welcoming to new opinions from new people, > and respectful of ASF spirit, not just its letter. There are > disagreements and debates on various technical matters without hurting > the community. That's why I support their graduation. > > It would have been really nice if one or two more committers from new > organizations had been added during the previous few months, but that > didn't happen. But I don't think the fact the committers come from a > small set of organizations necessarily means there's no diversity. > And I don't want to introduce artificial requirements. The "are they > really ready" question is subjective by definition, and it's a good > one, but I still vote +1 ;) > > Yoav > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Paul Fremantle Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 Apache Synapse PMC Chair OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
