[DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the incubating (from Nov 2014) and believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 committers and 2 mentors) and increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 months. There were presentations about Kylin at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop World London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference China) and some meetups (Bay Area, Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks around the world. The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month now. The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from contributors/committers have been merged into code base. A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find below references to the graduation preparation artifacts: * discussion on dev list [1] * vote thread [2] * podling name search (still in progress) [3] * incubation status [4] * proposed resolution below We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if the IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and others during the next couple of days. Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: === WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Kylin Project: * Dayue Gao * Jason Zhong * Julian Hyde * Luke Han * Henry Saputra * Hongbin Ma * Hua Huang * Owen O'Malley * P. Taylor Goetz * Qianhao Zhou * Shaofeng Shi * Song Yi * Ted Dunning * Xu Jiang * Yang Li * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Kylin Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged.
?????? [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
??1 Jiang Xu -- -- ??: "Luke Han";; : 2015??10??16??(??) 7:41 ??: "general"; : Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator Apache Kylin's name search has been approved, will raise vote now. Thanks. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Luke Han wrote: > Thank you very much for your great feedback. > > For the bylaws, personally I would like to have one to ensure the > community will > grow health and active. There's one draft will coming to PPMC first for > discussion which > I'm working on. > > As my research, there are some projects have this section, like Hive, > Hadoop, Storm > but few are not. > And as checked the content, most of them are actually very similar, like > for the definition > of roles, vote process and decision making. > > So I'm wondering should ASF, IPMC offer standard template for each podling > to have > by default? There's must different between projects but it will be easy > for such work > when graduating. > > At least, I don't found anything about "bylaws" under the Incubator > Graduate Guide [1] > Should we update this guide with such content, or add recommendation? > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > Thanks. > > > Best Regards! > - > > Luke Han > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > >> Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to >> proceed more smoothly. >> >> I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and >> the podling has been functioning well. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits >> wrote: >> >> > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in >> the >> > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Pierre Smits >> > >> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider >> > > taking it out. >> > > >> > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin >> community >> > > has plans to deviate. >> > > >> > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws >> was >> > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I >> probably >> > > would have stuck with the defaults. >> > > >> > > -Taylor >> > > >> > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us >> not >> > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying >> > > attention >> > > > to what they did. >> > > > >> > > > Best regards, >> > > > >> > > > Pierre Smits >> > > > >> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > > > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < >> ptgo...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> I agree. >> > > >> >> > > >> It??s also worth discussing whether the ??tasked with the creation >> of a >> > > set >> > > >> of bylaws?? section of the proposal is really needed. >> > > >> >> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, >> and >> > has >> > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other >> > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project >> > plans >> > > to >> > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. >> > > >> >> > > >> Just something to consider. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Taylor >> > > >> >> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I beli
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
I would be happy to see kylin graduate. On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > committers and 2 mentors) and > increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 > months. There were presentations about Kylin > at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop World > London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference > China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks > around the world. > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month > now. > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find > below > references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > * discussion on dev list [1] > * vote thread [2] > * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > * incubation status [4] > * proposed resolution below > > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if the > IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and > others during the next couple of days. > > > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > > > > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > === > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >Foundation; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source >software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and >hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for >management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >Apache Kylin Project: > > * Dayue Gao > * Jason Zhong > * Julian Hyde > * Luke Han > * Henry Saputra > * Hongbin Ma > * Hua Huang > * Owen O'Malley > * P. Taylor Goetz > * Qianhao Zhou > * Shaofeng Shi > * Song Yi > * Ted Dunning > * Xu Jiang > * Yang Li > * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> > > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve >in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of >Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >a successor is appointed; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >encourage open development and increased participation in the >Kylin Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >PMC are hereafter discharged. >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
One blocker is the name search [1] Need this to be resolved before start the actual VOTE. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Luke Han wrote: > The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > committers and 2 mentors) and > increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 > months. There were presentations about Kylin > at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop World > London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference > China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks > around the world. > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month > now. > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find below > references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > * discussion on dev list [1] > * vote thread [2] > * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > * incubation status [4] > * proposed resolution below > > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if the > IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and > others during the next couple of days. > > > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > > > > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > === > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >Foundation; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source >software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and >hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for >management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >Apache Kylin Project: > > * Dayue Gao > * Jason Zhong > * Julian Hyde > * Luke Han > * Henry Saputra > * Hongbin Ma > * Hua Huang > * Owen O'Malley > * P. Taylor Goetz > * Qianhao Zhou > * Shaofeng Shi > * Song Yi > * Ted Dunning > * Xu Jiang > * Yang Li > * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> > > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve >in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of >Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >a successor is appointed; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >encourage open development and increased participation in the >Kylin Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >PMC are hereafter discharged. -
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
+1 On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: >I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > >> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the >> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >> >> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 >> committers and 2 mentors) and >> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 >> months. There were presentations about Kylin >> at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop >>World >> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, >> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference >> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, >> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks >> around the world. >> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month >> now. >> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from >> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. >> >> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find >> below >> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: >> * discussion on dev list [1] >> * vote thread [2] >> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] >> * incubation status [4] >> * proposed resolution below >> >> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if >>the >> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. >> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and >> others during the next couple of days. >> >> >> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, >> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) >> >> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate >> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote >> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 >> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html >> >> >> >> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: >> === >> >>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >>public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine >> >>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >>be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>Foundation; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >>responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source >>software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >>and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and >>hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >>the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >>Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for >>management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >>of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>Apache Kylin Project: >> >> * Dayue Gao >> * Jason Zhong >> * Julian Hyde >> * Luke Han >> * Henry Saputra >> * Hongbin Ma >> * Hua Huang >> * Owen O'Malley >> * P. Taylor Goetz >> * Qianhao Zhou >> * Shaofeng Shi >> * Song Yi >> * Ted Dunning >> * Xu Jiang >> * Yang Li >> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> >> >> >>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >>be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve >>in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of >>Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >>resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >>a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>encourage open development and increased participation in the >>Kylin Project; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >>Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>PMC are hereafter discharged. >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
+1 On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" wrote: >+1 > >On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: > >>I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >>On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: >> >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >>> >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 >>> committers and 2 mentors) and >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 >>> months. There were presentations about Kylin >>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop >>>World >>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, >>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference >>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, >>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks >>> around the world. >>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month >>> now. >>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from >>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. >>> >>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find >>> below >>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: >>> * discussion on dev list [1] >>> * vote thread [2] >>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] >>> * incubation status [4] >>> * proposed resolution below >>> >>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if >>>the >>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. >>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and >>> others during the next couple of days. >>> >>> >>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, >>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) >>> >>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate >>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 >>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: >>> === >>> >>>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >>>public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine >>> >>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >>>be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>Foundation; and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >>>responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source >>>software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >>>and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and >>>hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >>>the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >>>Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for >>>management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >>>of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>Apache Kylin Project: >>> >>> * Dayue Gao >>> * Jason Zhong >>> * Julian Hyde >>> * Luke Han >>> * Henry Saputra >>> * Hongbin Ma >>> * Hua Huang >>> * Owen O'Malley >>> * P. Taylor Goetz >>> * Qianhao Zhou >>> * Shaofeng Shi >>> * Song Yi >>> * Ted Dunning >>> * Xu Jiang >>> * Yang Li >>> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> >>> >>> >>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >>>be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve >>>in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of >>>Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >>>resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >>>a successor is appointed; and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>>is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>Kylin Project; and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further >>> >>>RESOLVED, tha
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting business in the Apache Way. One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. Julian On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha wrote: > +1 > > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" wrote: > >>+1 >> >>On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: >> >>>I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >>>On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the incubating (from Nov 2014) and believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 committers and 2 mentors) and increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 months. There were presentations about Kylin at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop World London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference China) and some meetups (Bay Area, Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks around the world. The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month now. The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from contributors/committers have been merged into code base. A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find below references to the graduation preparation artifacts: * discussion on dev list [1] * vote thread [2] * podling name search (still in progress) [3] * incubation status [4] * proposed resolution below We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if the IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and others during the next couple of days. Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: === WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Kylin Project: * Dayue Gao * Jason Zhong * Julian Hyde * Luke Han * Henry Saputra * Hongbin Ma * Hua Huang * Owen O'Malley * P. Taylor Goetz * Qianhao Zhou * Shaofeng Shi * Song Yi * Ted Dunning * Xu Jiang * Yang Li * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
I agree. It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans to deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. Just something to consider. -Taylor > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. > They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > business in the Apache Way. > > One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > > Julian > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha wrote: >> +1 >> >> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: >>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > committers and 2 mentors) and > increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past 6 > months. There were presentations about Kylin > at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop > World > London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology Conference > China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks > around the world. > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per month > now. > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find > below > references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > * discussion on dev list [1] > * vote thread [2] > * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > * incubation status [4] > * proposed resolution below > > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if > the > IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page and > others during the next couple of days. > > > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > > > > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > === > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source > software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; > and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at > the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the > Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for > management of the projects within the scope of responsibility > of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Kylin Project: > >* Dayue Gao >* Jason Zhong >* Julian Hyde >* Luke Han >* Henry Saputra >* Hongbin Ma >* Hua Huang >* Owen O'Malley >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying attention to what they did. Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > I agree. > > It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a set > of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > > My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has > proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans to > deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > > Just something to consider. > > -Taylor > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > > > I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. > > They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > > business in the Apache Way. > > > > One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > > vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > > the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > > > > Julian > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha wrote: > >> +1 > >> > >> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" wrote: > >> > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: > >>> > I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > > > The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > > committers and 2 mentors) and > > increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past > 6 > > months. There were presentations about Kylin > > at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop > > World > > London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > Conference > > China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many > talks > > around the world. > > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per > month > > now. > > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > > contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > > > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please > find > > below > > references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > > * discussion on dev list [1] > > * vote thread [2] > > * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > > * incubation status [4] > > * proposed resolution below > > > > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if > > the > > IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page > and > > others during the next couple of days. > > > > > > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > > Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > > > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > > > > > > > > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > > === > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the > > public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source > > software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; > > and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at > > the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the > > Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for > > management of the projects
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider taking it out. As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community has plans to deviate. Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably would have stuck with the defaults. -Taylor > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying attention > to what they did. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: >> >> I agree. >> >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a set >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. >> >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans to >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. >> >> Just something to consider. >> >> -Taylor >> >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: >>> >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting >>> business in the Apache Way. >>> >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha wrote: +1 > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" wrote: > > +1 > >> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: >> >> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: >>> >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >>> >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 >>> committers and 2 mentors) and >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past >> 6 >>> months. There were presentations about Kylin >>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop >>> World >>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, >>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology >> Conference >>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, >>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many >> talks >>> around the world. >>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per >> month >>> now. >>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from >>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. >>> >>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please >> find >>> below >>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: >>> * discussion on dev list [1] >>> * vote thread [2] >>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] >>> * incubation status [4] >>> * proposed resolution below >>> >>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if >>> the >>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. >>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page >> and >>> others during the next couple of days. >>> >>> >>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, >>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) >>> >>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate >>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 >>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: >>> === >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >>> public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>> Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >>> responsibl
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in the request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider > taking it out. > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community > has plans to deviate. > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably > would have stuck with the defaults. > > -Taylor > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying > attention > > to what they did. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz > wrote: > >> > >> I agree. > >> > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a > set > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > >> > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans > to > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > >> > >> Just something to consider. > >> > >> -Taylor > >> > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > >>> > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > >>> business in the Apache Way. > >>> > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > >>> > >>> Julian > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha > wrote: > +1 > > > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" > wrote: > > > > +1 > > > >> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" wrote: > >> > >> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > >>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > >>> > >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during > the > >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and > >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > >>> > >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 > >>> committers and 2 mentors) and > >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the > past > >> 6 > >>> months. There were presentations about Kylin > >>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including > Strata+Hadoop > >>> World > >>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > >>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > >> Conference > >>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > >>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many > >> talks > >>> around the world. > >>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per > >> month > >>> now. > >>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > >>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > >>> > >>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please > >> find > >>> below > >>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > >>> * discussion on dev list [1] > >>> * vote thread [2] > >>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > >>> * incubation status [4] > >>> * proposed resolution below > >>> > >>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and > if > >>> the > >>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > >>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page > >> and > >>> others during the next couple of days. > >>> > >>> > >>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > >>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > >>> > >>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > >>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote > >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 > >>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: > >>> === > >>> > >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > >>> Committee charged with the creation and ma
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to proceed more smoothly. I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and the podling has been functioning well. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in the > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz > wrote: > > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider > > taking it out. > > > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community > > has plans to deviate. > > > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably > > would have stuck with the defaults. > > > > -Taylor > > > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits > wrote: > > > > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying > > attention > > > to what they did. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I agree. > > >> > > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a > > set > > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > > >> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and > has > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project > plans > > to > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > > >> > > >> Just something to consider. > > >> > > >> -Taylor > > >> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to > graduate. > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > > >>> business in the Apache Way. > > >>> > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. > > >>> > > >>> Julian > > >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha > > wrote: > > +1 > > > > > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > >> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" > wrote: > > >> > > >> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > > >>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > > >>> > > >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during > > the > > >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and > > >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > >>> > > >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added > 6 > > >>> committers and 2 mentors) and > > >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the > > past > > >> 6 > > >>> months. There were presentations about Kylin > > >>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including > > Strata+Hadoop > > >>> World > > >>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > > >>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > > >> Conference > > >>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > > >>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many > > >> talks > > >>> around the world. > > >>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per > > >> month > > >>> now. > > >>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from > > >>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. > > >>> > > >>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please > > >> find > > >>> below > > >>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: > > >>> * discussion on dev list [1] > > >>> * vote thread [2] > > >>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] > > >>> * incubation status [4] > > >>> * proposed resolution below > > >>> > > >>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project > and > > if > > >>> the > > >>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. > > >>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status > page > > >> and > > >>> others during the next couple of days. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, > > >>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) > > >>> > > >>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate > > >>> [2] http://s.apache.org/Kyli
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Thank you very much for your great feedback. For the bylaws, personally I would like to have one to ensure the community will grow health and active. There's one draft will coming to PPMC first for discussion which I'm working on. As my research, there are some projects have this section, like Hive, Hadoop, Storm but few are not. And as checked the content, most of them are actually very similar, like for the definition of roles, vote process and decision making. So I'm wondering should ASF, IPMC offer standard template for each podling to have by default? There's must different between projects but it will be easy for such work when graduating. At least, I don't found anything about "bylaws" under the Incubator Graduate Guide [1] Should we update this guide with such content, or add recommendation? [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to > proceed more smoothly. > > I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and > the podling has been functioning well. > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits > wrote: > > > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in > the > > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz > > wrote: > > > > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider > > > taking it out. > > > > > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community > > > has plans to deviate. > > > > > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws > was > > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably > > > would have stuck with the defaults. > > > > > > -Taylor > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us > not > > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying > > > attention > > > > to what they did. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I agree. > > > >> > > > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of > a > > > set > > > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. > > > >> > > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and > > has > > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other > > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project > > plans > > > to > > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. > > > >> > > > >> Just something to consider. > > > >> > > > >> -Taylor > > > >> > > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to > > graduate. > > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting > > > >>> business in the Apache Way. > > > >>> > > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the > IPMC > > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front > of > > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing > graduation. > > > >>> > > > >>> Julian > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha > > > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > >> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. > > > >>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances > during > > > the > > > >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and > > > >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > > >>> > > > >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size > (added > > 6 > > > >>> committers and 2 mentors) and > > > >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the > > > past > > > >> 6 > > > >>> months. There were presentations about Kylin > > > >>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including > > > Strata+Hadoop > > > >>> World > > > >>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, > > > >>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology > > > >> Conference > > > >>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, > > > >>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and > many > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Apache Kylin's name search has been approved, will raise vote now. Thanks. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Luke Han wrote: > Thank you very much for your great feedback. > > For the bylaws, personally I would like to have one to ensure the > community will > grow health and active. There's one draft will coming to PPMC first for > discussion which > I'm working on. > > As my research, there are some projects have this section, like Hive, > Hadoop, Storm > but few are not. > And as checked the content, most of them are actually very similar, like > for the definition > of roles, vote process and decision making. > > So I'm wondering should ASF, IPMC offer standard template for each podling > to have > by default? There's must different between projects but it will be easy > for such work > when graduating. > > At least, I don't found anything about "bylaws" under the Incubator > Graduate Guide [1] > Should we update this guide with such content, or add recommendation? > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > Thanks. > > > Best Regards! > - > > Luke Han > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > >> Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to >> proceed more smoothly. >> >> I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and >> the podling has been functioning well. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits >> wrote: >> >> > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in >> the >> > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Pierre Smits >> > >> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider >> > > taking it out. >> > > >> > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin >> community >> > > has plans to deviate. >> > > >> > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws >> was >> > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I >> probably >> > > would have stuck with the defaults. >> > > >> > > -Taylor >> > > >> > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us >> not >> > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying >> > > attention >> > > > to what they did. >> > > > >> > > > Best regards, >> > > > >> > > > Pierre Smits >> > > > >> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> > > > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < >> ptgo...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> I agree. >> > > >> >> > > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation >> of a >> > > set >> > > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. >> > > >> >> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, >> and >> > has >> > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other >> > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project >> > plans >> > > to >> > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. >> > > >> >> > > >> Just something to consider. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Taylor >> > > >> >> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to >> > graduate. >> > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting >> > > >>> business in the Apache Way. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the >> IPMC >> > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in >> front of >> > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing >> graduation. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Julian >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha > > >> > > wrote: >> > > +1 >> > > >> > > > On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > +1 >> > > > >> > > >> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" >> > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >> > > >>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances >> during >> > > the >> > > >>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >> > > >>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size >> (added >> > 6 >> > > >>> committers and 2 mentors) and >> > > >>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in >> the >> > > past >> > > >> 6 >> > > >>> months. There were presentatio
