Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey Robert, its not clear to me why a suitable name search should be dropped - is that because the brand team will do this search on a projects behalf? This seems likely to me But this is a POLL. Each option has advantages and disadvantages. I see nameprotect is outdated, but a quick search by project members to see if there are conflicts is still probably a good thing. It just might not have to be as thorough if brand is ultimately going to do their own search. This seems likely to me This is how Incubator rules accumulate. Podlings needs help, so guidance is documented. Over time these conventions harden into rules. If the Incubator community wants to preserve quality with fewer rules, it need to do less. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
Completely agree , if there is a rule list I dont think this needs to be on it, this is more a best practice imo Sent from my Windows Phone From: Robert Burrell Donkin Sent: 12/1/2011 4:20 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey Robert, its not clear to me why a suitable name search should be dropped - is that because the brand team will do this search on a projects behalf? This seems likely to me But this is a POLL. Each option has advantages and disadvantages. I see nameprotect is outdated, but a quick search by project members to see if there are conflicts is still probably a good thing. It just might not have to be as thorough if brand is ultimately going to do their own search. This seems likely to me This is how Incubator rules accumulate. Podlings needs help, so guidance is documented. Over time these conventions harden into rules. If the Incubator community wants to preserve quality with fewer rules, it need to do less. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Completely agree , if there is a rule list I dont think this needs to be on it, this is more a best practice imo Best practices tend to become the rule Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
This is perhaps an area where the incubator needs more caution before best practice turns into a rule. You can call it guidance rather than best practices, but I think you'll just say that's the same thing. I do agree with your statements though Sent from my Windows Phone From: Robert Burrell Donkin Sent: 12/1/2011 10:00 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Completely agree , if there is a rule list I dont think this needs to be on it, this is more a best practice imo Best practices tend to become the rule Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
+1 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: There has been concerns expressed about accumulation of rules without pruning. In that spirit, I'd like to find out whether the community feels that dropping the rule would be better than revising it into something workable. The current check [1] is outdated (for example, www.nameprotect.com) and isn't coordinated with the brand team who now look after marks and names. I've been pushing through a revision of the existing rule [2][3] with (what seems to me to be) limited support from the community. I had assume that the community supported the rule but perhaps the community feels that it would be better just to remove the rule (and ask the board to handle names). This is a POLL. Anyone can vote and it's result isn't binding. It provides evidence about which approach is more likely to gain consensus. Robert [1] Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already trademarked for an existing software product. [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH [3] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html --8--- [ ] Drop Suitable Name Search [ ] Revise Suitable Name Search - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (Oops, I didn't explain very well) With a POLL, you need to pick one of the option. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
I am sorry, didn't see the poll options. Thought it was just a heads up if this needs to be changed. [X] Drop Suitable Name Search Cheers On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (Oops, I didn't explain very well) With a POLL, you need to pick one of the option. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
Hey Robert, its not clear to me why a suitable name search should be dropped - is that because the brand team will do this search on a projects behalf? I see nameprotect is outdated, but a quick search by project members to see if there are conflicts is still probably a good thing. It just might not have to be as thorough if brand is ultimately going to do their own search. From: Christian Grobmeier Sent: 11/30/2011 3:35 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain? I am sorry, didn't see the poll options. Thought it was just a heads up if this needs to be changed. [X] Drop Suitable Name Search Cheers On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (Oops, I didn't explain very well) With a POLL, you need to pick one of the option. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[POLL] Suitable Name Search: Drop Or Retain?
There has been concerns expressed about accumulation of rules without pruning. In that spirit, I'd like to find out whether the community feels that dropping the rule would be better than revising it into something workable. The current check [1] is outdated (for example, www.nameprotect.com) and isn't coordinated with the brand team who now look after marks and names. I've been pushing through a revision of the existing rule [2][3] with (what seems to me to be) limited support from the community. I had assume that the community supported the rule but perhaps the community feels that it would be better just to remove the rule (and ask the board to handle names). This is a POLL. Anyone can vote and it's result isn't binding. It provides evidence about which approach is more likely to gain consensus. Robert [1] Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already trademarked for an existing software product. [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH [3] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html --8--- [ ] Drop Suitable Name Search [ ] Revise Suitable Name Search - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
