[RESULT][VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2014-01-17 Thread Jake Farrell
The BeanShell proposal started a vote thread to join the Incubator and
received some -1 votes. No discussion or changes where made after that and
the vote was never closed. Closing vote thread to clean up the Incubator
vote status page

-Jake

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-06-08 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding)

Ralph

On Jun 3, 2013, at 6:02 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:

 +1 (binding).
 
 Cheers,
 Chris
 
 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
 ++
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:23 AM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator
 
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at
 8:20am GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~
 ~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for
 years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-06-03 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
+1 (binding).

Cheers,
Chris

++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++






-Original Message-
From: Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:23 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

Dear ASF members,

We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.

The proposal draft is available at:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
follows below the proposal

Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at
8:20am GMT

[ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
[ ] +/-0
[ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

Many thanks in advance, all the best!
-Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/

~~
~

= BeanShell =
== Abstract ==
The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
Scripting Language implementation.

== Proposal ==
BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
Java education.
BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.

== Background ==
BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.

== Rationale ==
Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
implementation.

= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
communication channels have always been adopted since its first
release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
foundation for future committers involvement.

== Core Developers ==
In alphabetical order:

 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org

== Alignment ==
Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
need a Java  Scripting Language.

= Known Risks =
== Orphaned Products ==
The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
for this work to being abandoned from the community.

Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for
years:

 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter

== Inexperience with Open Source ==
All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
source projects inside and outside ASF.

== Homogeneous Developers ==
The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
committers already  and all are experienced with working in
distributed development communities.

== Reliance

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Simone Tripodi
simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 ...I am FWD'ing the discussion to dev@commons to evaluate BS joins
 Commons directly in the Sandbox

Cool - as Ant said, if the group who's bringing this bunch of code to
Commons is willing to take full responsibility for bringing it in a
state that's releasable by Commons, I don't see what the Incubator
would bring.

-Bertrand

(and BTW I'm not sure if you want to use BS as the abbreviated
name...I don't think people here will think of Basel Stadt ;-)

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-28 Thread Richard Frovarp

On 05/27/2013 06:37 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:


On May 27, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

...Half the committers are ASF
members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach
Sebb anything new about doing releases...


Indeed ;-)


...All thats needed is a software grant and IP clearance (which from the
previous discuss thread has already been done?) and start up right away in
Commons...


Makes sense, I agree with you that the Incubator doesn't bring any
more value in this case...has the commons PMC been asked about this
option?

I'm changing my vote to -1, at least until this is clarified.



So, what do we do?  Rather than complete this vote that I believe that we have 
consensus doesn't need to take place, should Simone simply start a graduation 
vote?  I think Subversion was in the same boat but I don't recall what we did 
there.


Regards,
Alan




Subversion went to their own PMC instead of becoming part of an existing 
PMC. That is one of the key differences here.



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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...Half the committers are ASF
 members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach
 Sebb anything new about doing releases...

Indeed ;-)

 ...All thats needed is a software grant and IP clearance (which from the
 previous discuss thread has already been done?) and start up right away in
 Commons...

Makes sense, I agree with you that the Incubator doesn't bring any
more value in this case...has the commons PMC been asked about this
option?

I'm changing my vote to -1, at least until this is clarified.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding)

Ralph

On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:

 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.
 
 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.
 
 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.
 
 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 attractiveness  of the ASF brand, we are 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

On May 27, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...Half the committers are ASF
 members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach
 Sebb anything new about doing releases...
 
 Indeed ;-)
 
 ...All thats needed is a software grant and IP clearance (which from the
 previous discuss thread has already been done?) and start up right away in
 Commons...
 
 Makes sense, I agree with you that the Incubator doesn't bring any
 more value in this case...has the commons PMC been asked about this
 option?
 
 I'm changing my vote to -1, at least until this is clarified.


So, what do we do?  Rather than complete this vote that I believe that we have 
consensus doesn't need to take place, should Simone simply start a graduation 
vote?  I think Subversion was in the same boat but I don't recall what we did 
there.


Regards,
Alan


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread ant elder
Its good that we can help keep BeanShell going by bring it to the ASF, but
my vote here is -1.

There was some discussion on this proposal back in April and one of the
last emails there was this one saying:

If the intention is to have Beanshell become a part of Apache Commons then
the IPMC feels that Apache Commons should do the work there.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201304.mbox/%3ccaaqlglpwaqgtje3pwievcphtgub7gwc5lnazkdruxpnwsgn...@mail.gmail.com%3E

There was no further discussion that i can see after that until this vote
now.

It seems pointless to me to incubate this. Half the committers are ASF
members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach
Sebb anything new about doing releases, and the intention is to become a
sub project of the commons PMC so that PMC is going to be able to provide
any additional oversight that may be needed.

All thats needed is a software grant and IP clearance (which from the
previous discuss thread has already been done?) and start up right away in
Commons.

What is it that we're going to do here at the Incubator with this? What
value are we going to add?

   ...ant


Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 on incubation then.
Thanks for telling us, Patrick

Please note: while incubation BeanShell needs to do the name search
process which is explained here:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html

You'll most likely asked again on this, but it should be straightforward now


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Patrick Niemeyer p...@pat.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I am happy to assign the BeanShell name, domain name, etc. to ASF.  These 
 names are not actively used elsewhere for any purpose.

 BeanShell was the subject of a JSR to standardize it as a scripting language 
 for the JVM, but that JSR went dormant years ago and there are no plans to 
 revive it.
 (Unless ASF would like to do so).

 I am happy that ASF has adopted BeanShell and I'd like to help with the 
 project in the future to the extent that my time allows.

 thanks,

 Pat Niemeyer
 (BeanShell project founder)


 Begin forwarded message:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator
 To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org


 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi Simo,

 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Simone Tripodi
 simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 ...We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator

 Sorry if I missed a previous discussion - is the name ok for us?

 Looking at http://www.beanshell.org/ and
 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=274 the name BeanShell is used by
 other entities, so we might not be able to use it as a project name
 without an explicit trademark donation.

 I think its exactly the beanshell.org project which comes to us
 and the jsr also refers to beanshell.org. Basically I expect Patrick
 Niemeyer would donate
 the trademark, as he is the founder of the project  and coming with
 the project to the ASF

 If this is not the case it would be good if Patrick would comment to
 avoid unnecessary infra work

 Cheers

 Christian


 The podling can be renamed later of course, just wanted to make sure
 the incoming podling community is aware of that.

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 in that case as well.

LieGrue,
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 From: Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 16:59
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator
 
 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Patrick Niemeyer p...@pat.net wrote:
  ...I am happy to assign the BeanShell name, domain name, etc. to ASF.  
 These names are not actively used elsewhere for any purpose
 
 Good, with this clarification, here's my +1 for incubation.
 
 I agree that a users list is often not needed initially, but that's a 
 detail.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Pedro Giffuni
On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: 
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.
 
 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.
 
 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.
 
 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 attractiveness  of the ASF 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Dave Fisher
+1.  Binding.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:

 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.
 
 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.
 
 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.
 
 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 

[VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Simone Tripodi
Dear ASF members,

We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.

The proposal draft is available at:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
follows below the proposal

Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am GMT

[ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
[ ] +/-0
[ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

Many thanks in advance, all the best!
-Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/

~~~

= BeanShell =
== Abstract ==
The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
Scripting Language implementation.

== Proposal ==
BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
Java education.
BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.

== Background ==
BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.

== Rationale ==
Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
implementation.

= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
communication channels have always been adopted since its first
release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
foundation for future committers involvement.

== Core Developers ==
In alphabetical order:

 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org

== Alignment ==
Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
need a Java  Scripting Language.

= Known Risks =
== Orphaned Products ==
The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
for this work to being abandoned from the community.

Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:

 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter

== Inexperience with Open Source ==
All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
source projects inside and outside ASF.

== Homogeneous Developers ==
The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
committers already  and all are experienced with working in
distributed development communities.

== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
its capability to attract external developers.

== Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
in contributing to and adopting this implementation.

== An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
attractiveness  of the ASF brand, we are absolutely aware of our
already established role in the wide JSR-274 community. Furthermore,
we are convinced that we can enthusiastically bring inside the ASF new
and fresh energies in order to 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Simo,

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Simone Tripodi
simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 ...We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator

Sorry if I missed a previous discussion - is the name ok for us?

Looking at http://www.beanshell.org/ and
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=274 the name BeanShell is used by
other entities, so we might not be able to use it as a project name
without an explicit trademark donation.

The podling can be renamed later of course, just wanted to make sure
the incoming podling community is aware of that.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi Simo,

 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Simone Tripodi
 simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 ...We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator

 Sorry if I missed a previous discussion - is the name ok for us?

 Looking at http://www.beanshell.org/ and
 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=274 the name BeanShell is used by
 other entities, so we might not be able to use it as a project name
 without an explicit trademark donation.

I think its exactly the beanshell.org project which comes to us
and the jsr also refers to beanshell.org. Basically I expect Patrick
Niemeyer would donate
the trademark, as he is the founder of the project  and coming with
the project to the ASF

If this is not the case it would be good if Patrick would comment to
avoid unnecessary infra work

Cheers

Christian


 The podling can be renamed later of course, just wanted to make sure
 the incoming podling community is aware of that.

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread sebb
On 24 May 2013 08:23, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 Dear ASF members,

 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.

 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal

 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT

 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [X] +/-0

I am +1 with the general proposal, but see specific items below.

 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo

 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/

 ~~~

 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.

 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.

 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.

 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.

 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.

 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:

  * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
  * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
  * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
  * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org

 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.

 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.

 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:

  * Apache OpenOffice
  * Apache Maven
  * Apache JMeter

 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.

 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.

 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.

 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.

 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Patrick Niemeyer

Hi,

I am happy to assign the BeanShell name, domain name, etc. to ASF.  These names 
are not actively used elsewhere for any purpose.

BeanShell was the subject of a JSR to standardize it as a scripting language 
for the JVM, but that JSR went dormant years ago and there are no plans to 
revive it.
(Unless ASF would like to do so).

I am happy that ASF has adopted BeanShell and I'd like to help with the project 
in the future to the extent that my time allows.

thanks,

Pat Niemeyer
(BeanShell project founder)


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 From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator
 To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi Simo,
 
 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Simone Tripodi
 simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:
 ...We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator
 
 Sorry if I missed a previous discussion - is the name ok for us?
 
 Looking at http://www.beanshell.org/ and
 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=274 the name BeanShell is used by
 other entities, so we might not be able to use it as a project name
 without an explicit trademark donation.
 
 I think its exactly the beanshell.org project which comes to us
 and the jsr also refers to beanshell.org. Basically I expect Patrick
 Niemeyer would donate
 the trademark, as he is the founder of the project  and coming with
 the project to the ASF
 
 If this is not the case it would be good if Patrick would comment to
 avoid unnecessary infra work
 
 Cheers
 
 Christian
 
 
 The podling can be renamed later of course, just wanted to make sure
 the incoming podling community is aware of that.
 
 -Bertrand
 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Patrick Niemeyer p...@pat.net wrote:
 ...I am happy to assign the BeanShell name, domain name, etc. to ASF.  These 
 names are not actively used elsewhere for any purpose

Good, with this clarification, here's my +1 for incubation.

I agree that a users list is often not needed initially, but that's a detail.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Ate Douma

+1 (binding)

Regards, Ate

On 05/24/2013 09:23 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:

Dear ASF members,

We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.

The proposal draft is available at:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
follows below the proposal

Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am GMT

[ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
[ ] +/-0
[ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

Many thanks in advance, all the best!
-Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/

~~~

= BeanShell =
== Abstract ==
The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
Scripting Language implementation.

== Proposal ==
BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
Java education.
BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.

== Background ==
BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.

== Rationale ==
Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
implementation.

= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
communication channels have always been adopted since its first
release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
foundation for future committers involvement.

== Core Developers ==
In alphabetical order:

  * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
  * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
  * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
  * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org

== Alignment ==
Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
need a Java  Scripting Language.

= Known Risks =
== Orphaned Products ==
The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
for this work to being abandoned from the community.

Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:

  * Apache OpenOffice
  * Apache Maven
  * Apache JMeter

== Inexperience with Open Source ==
All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
source projects inside and outside ASF.

== Homogeneous Developers ==
The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
committers already  and all are experienced with working in
distributed development communities.

== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
its capability to attract external developers.

== Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
in contributing to and adopting this implementation.

== An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
attractiveness  of the ASF brand, we are absolutely aware of our
already established role in the wide JSR-274 community. Furthermore,
we are convinced that 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Chip Childers
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 09:23:58AM +0200, Simone Tripodi wrote:
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo

+1 (binding)

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Fri, May 24, 2013, at 02:23 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at
 8:20am GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

+1 (binding)

Best,

jzb
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j...@zonker.net
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Suresh Marru
+ 1 (binding)

Suresh

On May 24, 2013, at 3:23 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote:

 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 
 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/
 
 ~~~
 
 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.
 
 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.
 
 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
 
 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.
 
 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:
 
 * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
 * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
 * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org
 
 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.
 
 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.
 
 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
 
 * Apache OpenOffice
 * Apache Maven
 * Apache JMeter
 
 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.
 
 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.
 
 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.
 
 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.
 
 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 attractiveness  of the 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Matt Franklin
+1 (binding)

On Friday, May 24, 2013, Simone Tripodi wrote:

 Dear ASF members,

 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.

 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal

 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at
 8:20am GMT

 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)

 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo

 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
 http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
 http://www.99soft.org/


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 = BeanShell =
 == Abstract ==
 The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
 Scripting Language implementation.

 == Proposal ==
 BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
 object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
 dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
 scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
 closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
 Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
 debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
 Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
 including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
 configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
 Java education.
 BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
 Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
 provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
 standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
 with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
 Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
 references to live objects into scripts and return them as results.

 == Background ==
 BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
 Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
 the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.

 == Rationale ==
 Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
 JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
 the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
 implementation.

 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
 as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
 communication channels have always been adopted since its first
 release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
 natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
 enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
 foundation for future committers involvement.

 == Core Developers ==
 In alphabetical order:

  * Daniel Leuck dan at ikayzo dot com,
  * Patrick Niemeyer pat at ikayzo dot com
  * Pedro Giffuni pfg at apache dot org
  * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org

 == Alignment ==
 Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
 JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
 need a Java  Scripting Language.

 = Known Risks =
 == Orphaned Products ==
 The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
 for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
 for this work to being abandoned from the community.

 Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for
 years:

  * Apache OpenOffice
  * Apache Maven
  * Apache JMeter

 == Inexperience with Open Source ==
 All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
 source projects inside and outside ASF.

 == Homogeneous Developers ==
 The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
 the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
 developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
 committers already  and all are experienced with working in
 distributed development communities.

 == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
 paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
 its capability to attract external developers.

 == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
 A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from BeanShell
 implementation, including Apache OpenOffice, Apache Maven and Apache
 JMeter. It is hoped that members of those projects will be interested
 in contributing to and adopting this implementation.

 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
 Even if the BeanShell community recognizes the power and the
 attractiveness  of the ASF brand, we are absolutely aware of our
 already 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-24 Thread Daniel Gruno
+1 (non-binding)

With regards,
Daniel.

On 05/24/2013 09:23 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
 Dear ASF members,
 
 We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
 
 The proposal draft is available at:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
 follows below the proposal
 
 Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
 GMT
 
 [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
 [ ] +/-0
 [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
 
 Many thanks in advance, all the best!
 -Simo
 


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