Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
> On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote:
> As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>
> I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.

+1

Late, I know, was traveling.

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RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Olga Natkovich
Hi Noel,

My understanding is that graduation into a subproject is a 3 step
process:

(1) Community vote (optional but desired)
(2) Project that will accept the subproject (in this case Hadoop) votes
(3) Incubator PMC votes.

I think we completed step (1) and need to move to step (2).

Is this correct?

Olga

> -Original Message-
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:04 AM
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> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject
> 
> Olga,
> 
> I saw your:
> 
> Total:9 +10 -1
> Pig Committers:   6 +10 -1
> Pig Mentors:  1 +10 -1
> 
> But please note that only Incubator PMC votes actually count, 
> and you need at least 3.  Whom do you have besides the one 
> Mentor and mine (herein granted)?
> 
> Also, since you intend to graduate into Hadoop, that PMC must 
> vote to accept Pig -- we don't force it on them.  ;-)  Has 
> that happened?
> 
>   --- Noel
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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Craig L Russell

Hi Noel,

On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:


Olga,

I saw your:

Total:  9 +10 -1
Pig Committers: 6 +10 -1
Pig Mentors:1 +10 -1

But please note that only Incubator PMC votes actually count, and  
you need

at least 3.  Whom do you have besides the one Mentor and mine (herein
granted)?

Also, since you intend to graduate into Hadoop, that PMC must vote  
to accept

Pig -- we don't force it on them.  ;-)  Has that happened?

--- Noel


Olga's [VOTE] was for Pig community members (and mentors, of course).

From Olga's message:



Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.

Thanks,

Olga

PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however,  
no

action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.



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RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Olga,

I saw your:

Total:  9 +10 -1
Pig Committers: 6 +10 -1
Pig Mentors:1 +10 -1

But please note that only Incubator PMC votes actually count, and you need
at least 3.  Whom do you have besides the one Mentor and mine (herein
granted)?

Also, since you intend to graduate into Hadoop, that PMC must vote to accept
Pig -- we don't force it on them.  ;-)  Has that happened?

--- Noel



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Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Olga,

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Olga Natkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...Pig does have two committers not affiliated with Yahoo: Pi Song and
> Daniel Dai. This is reflected on our "who we are" page

Thanks, and sorry for missing that.
-Bertrand

>
> Olga
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Bertrand Delacretaz
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:26 AM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig
>> graduation to hadoop subproject
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Doug Cutting
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Luciano Resende wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse
>> community"
>> >> section on the graduation checklist ?
>> >
>> > Pig wishes to become a subproject of Hadoop, not a TLP.
>> >
>> > Hadoop's PMC is listed at:
>> >
>> > http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html...
>>
>> I think Luciano's questions is basically "has Pig been able
>> to enroll any non-Yahoo committers", as IIRC the initial Pig
>> committers were all from Yahoo.
>>
>> Even if this doesn't have much impact on graduation as a
>> Hadoop subproject, I'm sure many of us would like to know.
>>
>> -Bertrand
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RE: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Olga Natkovich
Hi Bertrand,

Pig does have two committers not affiliated with Yahoo: Pi Song and
Daniel Dai. This is reflected on our "who we are" page.

Olga

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> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig 
> graduation to hadoop subproject
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Doug Cutting 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Luciano Resende wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse 
> community"
> >> section on the graduation checklist ?
> >
> > Pig wishes to become a subproject of Hadoop, not a TLP.
> >
> > Hadoop's PMC is listed at:
> >
> > http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html...
> 
> I think Luciano's questions is basically "has Pig been able 
> to enroll any non-Yahoo committers", as IIRC the initial Pig 
> committers were all from Yahoo.
> 
> Even if this doesn't have much impact on graduation as a 
> Hadoop subproject, I'm sure many of us would like to know.
> 
> -Bertrand
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Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luciano Resende wrote:
>>
>> Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse community"
>> section on the graduation checklist ?
>
> Pig wishes to become a subproject of Hadoop, not a TLP.
>
> Hadoop's PMC is listed at:
>
> http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html...

I think Luciano's questions is basically "has Pig been able to enroll
any non-Yahoo committers", as IIRC the initial Pig committers were all
from Yahoo.

Even if this doesn't have much impact on graduation as a Hadoop
subproject, I'm sure many of us would like to know.

-Bertrand

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RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-10 Thread Olga Natkovich
The vote is closed now. Thanks for everybody who voted!

Total:  9 +10 -1
Pig Committers: 6 +10 -1
Pig Mentors:1 +10 -1

Thanks,

Olga 

> -Original Message-
> From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject
> 
> Pig Developers and Mentors,
>  
> Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period 
> of time, we had extended our community with 2 new committers, 
> had a release, resolved 300 issues. We have made some 
> significant code improvements including pipeline redesign, 
> addition of streaming and limit functionality, grunt shell 
> improvements and significant performance speedup. We have a 
> constant traffic and lively discussions on both pig-dev and 
> pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the 
> open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.
>  
> As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as 
> described in http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>  
> I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.
>  
> I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of 
> Hadoop. There are several advantages to this approach. First, 
> this would allow us to extend both our user and developer 
> base. Second, it would bring benefits to the Hadoop community 
> by providing a higher level interface and easier entry point 
> for new users. Third, having an established project to 
> provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature 
> participant in the open source community.
>  
> Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Olga
>  
> PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; 
> however, no action is required from them at this time. This 
> step is for Pig community only.
> 

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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-09 Thread Arun C Murthy

+1

Arun

On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote:


Pig Developers and Mentors,

Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time,  
we

had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.

As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.

I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.

I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring  
benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and  
easier

entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.

Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.

Thanks,

Olga

PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however,  
no

action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.



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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-09 Thread Alan Gates

+1.

Alan.
On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote:


Pig Developers and Mentors,

Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of  
time, we

had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.

As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.

I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.

I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring  
benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and  
easier

entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.

Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.

Thanks,

Olga

PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists;  
however, no

action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.



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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Nigel Daley

+1

On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote:


Pig Developers and Mentors,

Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time,  
we

had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.

As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.

I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.

I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring  
benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and  
easier

entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.

Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.

Thanks,

Olga

PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however,  
no

action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.



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Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Doug Cutting

Luciano Resende wrote:

Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse community"
section on the graduation checklist ?


Pig wishes to become a subproject of Hadoop, not a TLP.

Hadoop's PMC is listed at:

http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html

Doug

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RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Pradeep Kamath
+1

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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

+1

2008/10/7 Santhosh Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> +1
>
> Santhosh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject
>
> Pig Developers and Mentors,
>
> Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time,
we
> had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
> resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
> including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
> functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
> speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
> pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
> open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.
>
> As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>
> I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.
>
> I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
> are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
> extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring
benefits
> to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and
easier
> entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
> provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
> open source community.
>
> Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olga
>
> PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however,
no
> action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
> community only.
>



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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Daniel

+1

Daniel

- Original Message - 
From: "Olga Natkovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:32 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject


Pig Developers and Mentors,

Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.

As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.

I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.

I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and easier
entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.

Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.

Thanks,

Olga

PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however, no
action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.


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Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread tang9527
+1

2008/10/7 Santhosh Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> +1
>
> Santhosh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject
>
> Pig Developers and Mentors,
>
> Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
> had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
> resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
> including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
> functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
> speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
> pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
> open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.
>
> As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>
> I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.
>
> I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
> are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
> extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring benefits
> to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and easier
> entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
> provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
> open source community.
>
> Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olga
>
> PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however, no
> action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
> community only.
>



-- 
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RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan
+1

Santhosh 

-Original Message-
From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

Pig Developers and Mentors,
 
Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.
 
As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
 
I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.
 
I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and easier
entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.
 
Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.
 
Thanks,
 
Olga
 
PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however, no
action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.

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RE: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-06 Thread Olga Natkovich
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Luciano Resende [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:11 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation 
> to hadoop subproject
> 
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Pig Developers and Mentors,
> >
> > Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period 
> of time, 
> > we had extended our community with 2 new committers,
> 
> Has this list been updated recently ? Does it reflect the 
> current list of committers ?
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/pig/whoweare.html

Yes, the document is up-to-date.

> 
> >
> > As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as 
> described in 
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
> >
> 
> Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse community"
> section on the graduation checklist ?

Yes, and I think we satisfied these requirements.

> 
> 
> 
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-06 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pig Developers and Mentors,
>
> Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
> had extended our community with 2 new committers,

Has this list been updated recently ? Does it reflect the current list
of committers ?
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/pig/whoweare.html

>
> As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>

Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse community"
section on the graduation checklist ?



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http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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[VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-06 Thread Olga Natkovich
Pig Developers and Mentors,
 
Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
functionality, grunt shell improvements and significant performance
speedup. We have a constant traffic and lively discussions on both
pig-dev and pig-user mailing lists and we conduct our business in the
open by publishing proposals and discussing them in the mailing lists.
 
As of now, we have completed graduation requirements as described in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
 
I would like to call for a graduation vote at this time.
 
I would also propose that we graduate as a subproject of Hadoop. There
are several advantages to this approach. First, this would allow us to
extend both our user and developer base. Second, it would bring benefits
to the Hadoop community by providing a higher level interface and easier
entry point for new users. Third, having an established project to
provide guidance, would help Pig to become a mature participant in the
open source community.
 
Please, vote by the end of the day on Thursday, 10/9.
 
Thanks,
 
Olga
 
PS: I am ccing  hadoop and incubator general mailing lists; however, no
action is required from them at this time. This step is for Pig
community only.