Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator - name update
Hi all, the discussions on projects@ lead to the new name PhotArk as a play on photo archive. If anybody wants to change their vote one way or another based on the name, please do so until Mon 2008-08-18 15:00 GMT. cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator - name update
I realize I hadn't voted earlier although I participated in the name discussion. +1 for incubation. Craig On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Roland Weber wrote: Hi all, the discussions on projects@ lead to the new name PhotArk as a play on photo archive. If anybody wants to change their vote one way or another based on the name, please do so until Mon 2008-08-18 15:00 GMT. cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator - name update
+1 for incubation. sounds like a cool project. WILL On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I realize I hadn't voted earlier although I participated in the name discussion. +1 for incubation. Craig On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Roland Weber wrote: Hi all, the discussions on projects@ lead to the new name PhotArk as a play on photo archive. If anybody wants to change their vote one way or another based on the name, please do so until Mon 2008-08-18 15:00 GMT. cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! -- Forio Business Simulations Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forio.com
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
We're still discussing naming options, including the option to stick with PicaGalley, on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll keep this vote open until we settle on a name, and a few days longer if that is not PicaGalley. cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Hi, On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: I also think the names are too similar I have re-opened the naming discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should we keep this vote running, or should we start a new one after we settle for a different name? For the record, my vote is -0 due to the naming concern. It seems to me that this vote has enough +1 votes to pass, so IMHO there's no need to restart it unless you do want to change the name. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
+1 Niall On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by drawing pieces from existing efforts * Recruit additional community members * Finalize the Content Repository * Use cases - capture ideas such as access control that might not make first drop * Layout * Unit tests (simple drivers for loading, accessing, searching, etc.) * ReST structure * Use cases * URI format * semantics * prototype implementation * Web service * Use cases - want to capture ideas for process (Ode) integration * WSDL Description * prototype == Current Status == Responses to the initial proposal uncovered several existing efforts at implementing photo gallery software in Java. Instead of picking one codebase over the others, we started from scratch with a high-level design. Pieces will be taken from the existing efforts as appropriate. These efforts are: * Caitrin: Originally developed for a fee at Nechtan Design then voluntarily updated. The code is in use on a test site and ready to be moved to production. It runs on Tomcat and uses a relational DB for storing metadata as well as the filesystem for storing images. This codebase was at the core of the initial proposal for this podling. * Noel Bergman developed a photo gallery software he is willing to donate. The software is in production use, technical details remain to be investigated. * Carsten Ziegeler is working on a photo gallery software based on Apache Sling (currently incubating), which
RE: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Angela Cymbalak wrote: This hasn't been discussed but I don't think that there is a trademark issue. Picasa and PicaGalley? Why would there be any trademark issue at all? Pica is hardly something that Google can claim as a prefix. Picasa is a play on the artist's name, and would be pronounced differently (as also noted by Craig). I see no reason to change, although I wonder about Galley vs Gallery. shrug. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 04:05:04 Craig L Russell wrote: I don't think the names PicaGalley and Picasa are similar at all. Pica is pronounced with a long i and stress on the i. Picasa has a short i and stress on the first a. So to me they don't even share pica, which is a very common term in the printing/publishing industry. The name is nowhere close to a problem for me. I agree to this analysis. Phonetically not confusing, and disallowing all names that has a pic, ture, pho, to, im, age in a photo/picture/image system (since they are used one place or the other) is too strict. If the proposal for instance was Pickata, Pikala, or otherwise phonetically very similar, I would think the concern is substantiated. And let's not forget that the masot for the O'Reilly book is obvious (s/c/k) but you might have to be a hiker/climber to catch that book. Either that, or be familiar with Pokemon :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Hello Will, Will Glass-Husain wrote: Is there a potential trademark issue with Google? I worry about the similarity in name to Picasa, especially given they both are web-based photo galleries. I wasn't aware of that. We came to the name of PicaGalley from Piccadilly. A Google search didn't uncover anything except our own stuff, plus the suggestion Did you mean: piccadilly. I'm not sure how similar these names are, except for their starting with pic-a, which is certainly not uncommon for software that is meant to handle pictures. But if others share your concern, I'm open for discussing other names. (If only I could remember the one I thought of after we settled on PicaGalley...) cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Hi, On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how similar these names are, except for their starting with pic-a, which is certainly not uncommon for software that is meant to handle pictures. But if others share your concern, I'm open for discussing other names. I also think the names are too similar, especially since the products have overlapping scopes. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Jukka Zitting wrote: I also think the names are too similar I have re-opened the naming discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should we keep this vote running, or should we start a new one after we settle for a different name? cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
How about phoshow? Photo/Show :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: I also think the names are too similar I have re-opened the naming discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should we keep this vote running, or should we start a new one after we settle for a different name? cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Oops. Sorry: http://whatstoeatla.blogspot.com/2008/06/phoshowi-swear-i-didnt-make-it-up.html I was half kidding. I think phoshizzle is out too :( On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:16 PM, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about phoshow? Photo/Show :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: I also think the names are too similar I have re-opened the naming discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should we keep this vote running, or should we start a new one after we settle for a different name? cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
I don't think the names PicaGalley and Picasa are similar at all. Pica is pronounced with a long i and stress on the i. Picasa has a short i and stress on the first a. So to me they don't even share pica, which is a very common term in the printing/publishing industry. The name is nowhere close to a problem for me. Craig On Aug 5, 2008, at 8:09 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how similar these names are, except for their starting with pic-a, which is certainly not uncommon for software that is meant to handle pictures. But if others share your concern, I'm open for discussing other names. I also think the names are too similar, especially since the products have overlapping scopes. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
IMO there is no need to revote on the name change. It is a technicality, and according to me an exit criterium, not an entry criterium. How about calling the project Snapshot (or Snapshots)? Apache Snapshot does have a ring to it, though it might be confusing as hell when you're deploying Snapshot snapshots to the Snapshot snapshot repository. Shutter also is funny: doing a Shutter release. Martijn On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: I also think the names are too similar I have re-opened the naming discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should we keep this vote running, or should we start a new one after we settle for a different name? cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Will, This hasn't been discussed but I don't think that there is a trademark issue. From the Picasa Web site [1] Picasa will: - Locate and organize all the photos on your computer. - Edit and add effects to your photos with a few simple clicks. - Share your photos with others through email, prints, and http://picasaweb.google.com/on the web: it's fast, easy and free. PicaGalley is not proposing to do anything other than allow Web sharing and it won't even do that without someone setting up the software. While they are both products that deal with photographs, I think they are fundamentally different enough to not pose a trademark issue. Angie [1] http://picasa.google.com/ At 10:57 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote: Is there a potential trademark issue with Google? I worry about the similarity in name to Picasa, especially given they both are web-based photo galleries. Apologies if this has already been discussed. WILL On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by drawing pieces from existing efforts * Recruit additional community members * Finalize the Content Repository * Use cases - capture ideas such as access control that might not make first drop * Layout * Unit tests (simple drivers for loading, accessing, searching, etc.) * ReST structure * Use cases * URI format * semantics * prototype implementation * Web service * Use cases - want to capture ideas for process (Ode) integration * WSDL Description * prototype
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
+1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
--8 [X] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : It will be interesting to see how this comes together; I hope to see the crystallisation of both an idea and a community develop into a thriving project here at the ASF. -- Martin Cooper
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
I'm not convinced. Picasa has a downloadable desktop app too. And the names are awfully similar. Wouldn't it be simpler to avoid the hassle of trademark conflict and pain of renaming later by changing it now? It sounds like a cool project. Won't argue this further, but it does seem like geting an expert opinion on the name might be useful. Will On Aug 4, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Angela Cymbalak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, This hasn't been discussed but I don't think that there is a trademark issue. From the Picasa Web site [1] Picasa will: - Locate and organize all the photos on your computer. - Edit and add effects to your photos with a few simple clicks. - Share your photos with others through email, prints, and http://picasaweb.google.com/ on the web: it's fast, easy and free. PicaGalley is not proposing to do anything other than allow Web sharing and it won't even do that without someone setting up the software. While they are both products that deal with photographs, I think they are fundamentally different enough to not pose a trademark issue. Angie [1] http://picasa.google.com/ At 10:57 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote: Is there a potential trademark issue with Google? I worry about the similarity in name to Picasa, especially given they both are web- based photo galleries. Apologies if this has already been discussed. WILL On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
+1 of course When this came in as Caitrin, it was a proposal for a codebase with no community. Since then, it has changed into a little community without a specific codebase, but several codebases to draw from or use as a starting base. I find this a much more convincing proposition. Convincing enough to become a mentor :-) cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Sounds interesting. +1 On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:02 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by drawing pieces from existing efforts * Recruit additional community members * Finalize the Content Repository * Use cases - capture ideas such as access control that might not make first drop * Layout * Unit tests (simple drivers for loading, accessing, searching, etc.) * ReST structure * Use cases * URI format * semantics * prototype implementation * Web service * Use cases - want to capture ideas for process (Ode) integration * WSDL Description * prototype == Current Status == Responses to the initial proposal uncovered several existing efforts at implementing photo gallery software in Java. Instead of picking one codebase over the others, we started from scratch with a high-level design. Pieces will be taken from the existing efforts as appropriate. These efforts are: * Caitrin: Originally developed for a fee at Nechtan Design then voluntarily updated. The code is in use on a test site and ready to be moved to production. It runs on Tomcat and uses a relational DB for storing metadata as well as the filesystem for storing images. This codebase was at the core of the initial proposal for this podling. * Noel Bergman developed a photo gallery software he is willing to donate. The software is in production use, technical details remain to be investigated. *
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
+1 Martijn (who points at jalbum.net as a photo gallery generating Java product, though partly LGPL, partly closed source) On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by drawing pieces from existing efforts * Recruit additional community members * Finalize the Content Repository * Use cases - capture ideas such as access control that might not make first drop * Layout * Unit tests (simple drivers for loading, accessing, searching, etc.) * ReST structure * Use cases * URI format * semantics * prototype implementation * Web service * Use cases - want to capture ideas for process (Ode) integration * WSDL Description * prototype == Current Status == Responses to the initial proposal uncovered several existing efforts at implementing photo gallery software in Java. Instead of picking one codebase over the others, we started from scratch with a high-level design. Pieces will be taken from the existing efforts as appropriate. These efforts are: * Caitrin: Originally developed for a fee at Nechtan Design then voluntarily updated. The code is in use on a test site and ready to be moved to production. It runs on Tomcat and uses a relational DB for storing metadata as well as the filesystem for storing images. This codebase was at the core of the initial proposal for this podling. * Noel Bergman developed a photo gallery software he is willing to donate. The software is in production use, technical details remain to be investigated.
Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator
Is there a potential trademark issue with Google? I worry about the similarity in name to Picasa, especially given they both are web-based photo galleries. Apologies if this has already been discussed. WILL On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, please vote on accepting project PicaGalley (originally proposed under the name of Caitrin) for incubation, with the Incubator PMC as the Sponsor. This vote runs until Sun 2008-08-10 24:00 GMT, unless major discussions ensue. Votes of IPMC members are binding, a minimum of three +1 is required. I don't know whether a majority is sufficient or whether consensus is required, so I hope for the latter :-) thanks and cheers, Roland --8 [ ] +1 Accept PicaGalley for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : (The text below contains minor edits compared to the draft at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal I removed the section Help Wanted, improved formatting for direct reading, and removed the ! prefix from !PicaGalley.) == Abstract == PicaGalley will be a photo gallery application with web access. == Proposal == PicaGalley will be a complete open source photo gallery application including a content repository for the images, a display piece, an access control layer, and upload capabilities. The idea is to have a rigid design for the content repository with a very flexible display piece. The images in the content repository will be protected with granular access control. == Background == Photo gallery software provides users with the means to store, manage, and publish photographies and other digital images. A user creates one or more photo albums and puts images into them. Metadata stored with the images allows for searching. The primary means to access the photo gallery will be web interfaces, for human interaction through a browser as well as for machine retrieval. Images are published by granting read access to everybody or to a group of invites. Initially the proposal idea for a photo gallery was brought forth due to a project that had been started at Nechtan Design. While discussing the possibility of forming a community around that project (called Caitrin) a community started to form. Others with interest in the subject and problem space started putting in their ideas and offered to donate code that could help. It was decided that the project should start from scratch with a new architecture. This proposal is based on a high level design that evolved from the subsequent discussions. We are aware that we have significant work ahead of us, not only in the code to be written but in finding a community to support the project. == Rationale == A picture tells a thousand words... If a picture tells a thousand words then a gallery of pictures tells an amazing story. It could tell this story as part of a larger web site, in a blog or on its own. Unfortunately, there exists no Java open source application to assist the community to tell this story. PicaGalley will change that. There are many photo galleries that are written in PHP. Each of these addresses a particular need and many work well for their intended purpose. However, there is not a photo gallery that is written in Java. As Web 2.0 continues to grow it only makes sense that the community provide not only PHP but also Java applications to allow everyone the ability to publish their own content. Apache started down this road with Roller and can continue with PicaGalley. == Initial Goals == * Create a prototype by drawing pieces from existing efforts * Recruit additional community members * Finalize the Content Repository * Use cases - capture ideas such as access control that might not make first drop * Layout * Unit tests (simple drivers for loading, accessing, searching, etc.) * ReST structure * Use cases * URI format * semantics * prototype implementation * Web service * Use cases - want to capture ideas for process (Ode) integration * WSDL Description * prototype == Current Status == Responses to the initial proposal uncovered several existing efforts at implementing photo gallery software in Java. Instead of picking one codebase over the others, we started from scratch with a high-level design. Pieces will be taken from the existing efforts as appropriate. These efforts are: * Caitrin: Originally developed for a fee at Nechtan Design then voluntarily updated. The code is in use on a test site and ready to be moved to production. It runs on Tomcat and uses a relational DB for storing metadata as well as the filesystem for storing images. This codebase was at the core of the initial proposal for this podling. * Noel Bergman developed a photo gallery software he is willing to
