Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-07 Thread Donald Whytock
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
 37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
 2010:

Based on the volume here over the last week, how many of those lists
got all 365 messages in one day?

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-07 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,


Am 07.06.2011 20:30, schrieb Donald Whytock:

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jukka Zittingjukka.zitt...@gmail.com  wrote:

According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
2010:

Based on the volume here over the last week, how many of those lists
got all 365 messages in one day?



although there are mailing lists with typical peaks at OOo (qa an 
release lists short before release, user lists short after relase) as 
well as some with only seasonal use (conference planning lists) none of 
the lists would have such extreme peaks as you see here.


It is only that you have at a rather low-traffic apache list guests who 
are used to discuss on high-traffic lists. And discussion is often with 
lots of emotion (but seems to clam down).


regards,

André

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-07 Thread Ian Lynch
2011/6/7 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net

It is only that you have at a rather low-traffic apache list guests who are
 used to discuss on high-traffic lists. And discussion is often with lots of
 emotion (but seems to clam down).


Ah, nostalgia, it's just like the good old days on the OOo marketing list
:-)

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:16 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
 On 6/5/2011 7:13 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
 There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
 lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
 these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
 a single dev list is not sufficient.

 Can you break these down into the number of projects generating 1 message
 per day?

According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
2010:

 1) org.openoffice.allbugs   61,312
 2) org.openoffice.users  7,780
 3) org.openoffice.de.users   6,215
 4) org.openoffice.fr.users   4,318
 5) org.openoffice.allcvs 3,136
 6) org.openoffice.de.dev 2,943
 7) org.openoffice.marketing.dev  2,281
 8) org.openoffice.user-faq.authors   2,204
 9) org.openoffice.dev2,171
10) org.openoffice.discuss1,809
11) org.openoffice.l10n.dev   1,787
12) org.openoffice.fr.qa-test 1,694
13) org.openoffice.br-pt.usuarios 1,439
14) org.openoffice.it.utenti  1,426
15) org.openoffice.releases   1,407
16) org.openoffice.ja.translate   1,308
17) org.openoffice.es.discuss_es  1,281
18) org.openoffice.api.dev1,030
19) org.openoffice.it.localizzazione  1,012
20) org.openoffice.cws-announce 950
21) org.openoffice.ux.discuss   819
22) org.openoffice.qa.dev   717
23) org.openoffice.es.users 668
24) org.openoffice.fr.discuss   598
25) org.openoffice.website.dev  553
26) org.openoffice.es.dev   550
27) org.openoffice.distribution.dev 524
28) org.openoffice.de.qa523
29) org.openoffice.documentation.dev510
30) org.openoffice.nl.gebruikers473
31) org.openoffice.fr.dev   460
32) org.openoffice.dba.needsconfirm 446
33) org.openoffice.ja.discuss   429
34) org.openoffice.de.cdrom 428
35) org.openoffice.dba.dev  372
36) org.openoffice.l10n.tools   372
37) org.openoffice.native-lang.dev  370

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi,

2011/6/6 Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:16 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net 
 wrote:
 On 6/5/2011 7:13 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
 There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
 lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
 these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
 a single dev list is not sufficient.

 Can you break these down into the number of projects generating 1 message
 per day?

 According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
 37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
 2010:


These are generated lists:
     1) org.openoffice.allbugs           61,312
     5) org.openoffice.allcvs             3,136
    20) org.openoffice.cws-announce         950
    32) org.openoffice.dba.needsconfirm     446


Please take also in account that most of the community went away at
least in october 2010 and most lists are dead since then.


Volker

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:

 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test
 notifications

 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.


OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough time
to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think the
discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.


 

 In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
 we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
 incubation. Thoughts?

 The other four lists are pretty standard for Apache projects. Feedback
 most welcome!

 Cheers,
 -g

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:

 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test 
 notifications

 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.
 

 In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
 we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
 incubation. Thoughts?

There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
a single dev list is not sufficient.

Niall

 The other four lists are pretty standard for Apache projects. Feedback
 most welcome!

 Cheers,
 -g

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread robert_weir
Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011 07:55:34 PM:

 
 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.
 
 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:
 
 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test 
 notifications
 
 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.
 
 
 In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
 we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
 incubation. Thoughts?
 
 The other four lists are pretty standard for Apache projects. Feedback
 most welcome!
 

Could you review what user services Apache projects typically provide? I 
assume it is one or more mailing lists, a bug tracker, and a release 
repository.  Anything else?  User-facing blogs?  Forums, i.e., non-mail 
enabled by default, as opposed to mailing lists? 

In the initial discussions the thought was to divide the project web 
presence from the end-user web presence.  Reasons for this include the 
many thousands of inbound links to OpenOffice.org.  But some systems need 
to be easily accessible to both users and project members, e.g., the bug 
tracker.

More than one way to do this, but it would be good to know the range of 
what is possible at Apache.

-Rob

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi all

Because this is my first mail, I give a short introduction to myself.

I'm Raphael Bircher from Switzerland. I contribute for OOo since 5 years 
as QA and in same other tecnical parts. I was involved by the migration 
to the kenai Infrastructur, and I'm willing to help by seting up the new 
infrastructure, if this help is welcome from the ASF side.


Am 06.06.11 02:13, schrieb Niall Pemberton:

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:

I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

This is what I entered into the wiki:

The following mailing lists:

oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test notifications

Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
anticipated that users will interact with the community through
existing OpenOffice.org systems.


In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
incubation. Thoughts?

There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
a single dev list is not sufficient.
We have many many lists, a load of this lists are dead. Anyway, The 4 
lists are ok, if this is onli for the startup while the kenai 
infrastructure from Oracle is running. If we realy switch to apache, we 
need much more ML, e.g for native language projects, etc.


Greetings Raphael
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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 20:07, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:

 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test
 notifications

 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.

 OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough time
 to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think the
 discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.

The mailing lists haven't been constructed yet. We can easily change
the request to ooo-*. I was just trying to keep the names short :-)

Opinions, people? Should they be oo-* or ooo-*? (the former could
work if we call it Apache OpenOffice)

Cheers,
-g

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread robert_weir
acolor...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011 08:07:29 PM:

 
 OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough 
time
 to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think 
the
 discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.
 

+1

Since this is question that is pervasive in the project, I'd recommend 
that after this proposal is accepted, that there be a consultation with 
ASF Legal Affairs on the trademark *before* any project infrastructure is 
created.

-Rob

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 20:47, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
 Hi all

 Because this is my first mail, I give a short introduction to myself.

 I'm Raphael Bircher from Switzerland. I contribute for OOo since 5 years as
 QA and in same other tecnical parts. I was involved by the migration to the
 kenai Infrastructur, and I'm willing to help by seting up the new
 infrastructure, if this help is welcome from the ASF side.

Welcome!

If you're interested in infrastructure, then Joe Schaefer recommended
joining the infrastruct...@apache.org mailing list[1].

 Am 06.06.11 02:13, schrieb Niall Pemberton:
 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:
...
 There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
 lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
 these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
 a single dev list is not sufficient.

 We have many many lists, a load of this lists are dead. Anyway, The 4 lists
 are ok, if this is onli for the startup while the kenai infrastructure from
 Oracle is running. If we realy switch to apache, we need much more ML, e.g
 for native language projects, etc.

That was my thought, too. Also note that we're talking about an
initial committer list of around 40-50 people (it is approaching 40
now). That many people can easily work on a single list. And yeah...
over time, more lists can be constructed as necessary. We're just
talking about the initial set.

And similar to you, I feel pretty strong about keeping it minimal.
Separating across too many lists might lose the necessary critical
mass.

Cheers,
-g

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW, renaming our lists is largely a scripted operation.
I wouldn't hold up creation of mailing lists simply because
we can't figure out what the best names for them are.



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 acolor...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011  08:07:29 PM:
 
  
  OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not  'oo' I think is enough 
 time
  to correct these mailing lists. I wrote  a more lenghty email but I think 
 the
  discussions should be better  understood by Apache admins.
  
 
 +1
 
 Since this is question  that is pervasive in the project, I'd recommend 
 that after this proposal is  accepted, that there be a consultation with 
 ASF Legal Affairs on the  trademark *before* any project infrastructure is 
 created.
 
 -Rob
 
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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:53 PM,  robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 acolor...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011 08:07:29 PM:

 OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough
 time
 to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think
 the
 discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.


 +1

 Since this is question that is pervasive in the project, I'd recommend
 that after this proposal is accepted, that there be a consultation with
 ASF Legal Affairs on the trademark *before* any project infrastructure is
 created.

Mention that in the proposal.

 -Rob

- Sam Ruby

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Andy Brown

Greg Stein wrote:

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 20:07, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org  wrote:

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:


I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

This is what I entered into the wiki:

The following mailing lists:

oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test
notifications

Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
anticipated that users will interact with the community through
existing OpenOffice.org systems.


OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough time
to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think the
discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.


The mailing lists haven't been constructed yet. We can easily change
the request to ooo-*. I was just trying to keep the names short :-)

Opinions, people? Should they be oo-* or ooo-*? (the former could
work if we call it Apache OpenOffice)

Cheers,
-g


I have to agree with Alexandro on this.  The OpenOffice.org (OOo or ooo) 
has long be established and it will be very confusing to users to change 
now.  For internal use the oo-* may work but feel that it maybe best to 
use ooo-* as new people come aboard.  Even the Apache OpenOffice will 
cause confusion.


Just my 2cents.

Andy

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 06.06.11 02:55, schrieb Greg Stein:

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 20:47, Raphael Bircherr.birc...@gmx.ch  wrote:

Hi all

Because this is my first mail, I give a short introduction to myself.

I'm Raphael Bircher from Switzerland. I contribute for OOo since 5 years as
QA and in same other tecnical parts. I was involved by the migration to the
kenai Infrastructur, and I'm willing to help by seting up the new
infrastructure, if this help is welcome from the ASF side.

Welcome!

If you're interested in infrastructure, then Joe Schaefer recommended
joining the infrastruct...@apache.org mailing list[1].

As I hav not enough lists ;-) No, I will subscribe it.

Am 06.06.11 02:13, schrieb Niall Pemberton:

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.comwrote:

...

There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
a single dev list is not sufficient.

We have many many lists, a load of this lists are dead. Anyway, The 4 lists
are ok, if this is onli for the startup while the kenai infrastructure from
Oracle is running. If we realy switch to apache, we need much more ML, e.g
for native language projects, etc.

That was my thought, too. Also note that we're talking about an
initial committer list of around 40-50 people (it is approaching 40
now). That many people can easily work on a single list. And yeah...
over time, more lists can be constructed as necessary. We're just
talking about the initial set.
In fact, I think, there are many more. The project is big end many 
people does not know that they should list themself to the initial proposal.

And similar to you, I feel pretty strong about keeping it minimal.
Separating across too many lists might lose the necessary critical
mass.

Yes, but a list with hunderts of mails per day is not realy funny too ;-)

Greetings Raphael

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 21:03, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
 Greg Stein wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 20:07, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org
  wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:

 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test
 notifications

 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.

 OpenOffice.org official contaction is 'OOo' not 'oo' I think is enough
 time
 to correct these mailing lists. I wrote a more lenghty email but I think
 the
 discussions should be better understood by Apache admins.

 The mailing lists haven't been constructed yet. We can easily change
 the request to ooo-*. I was just trying to keep the names short :-)

 Opinions, people? Should they be oo-* or ooo-*? (the former could
 work if we call it Apache OpenOffice)

 Cheers,
 -g

 I have to agree with Alexandro on this.  The OpenOffice.org (OOo or ooo) has
 long be established and it will be very confusing to users to change now.
  For internal use the oo-* may work but feel that it maybe best to use ooo-*
 as new people come aboard.  Even the Apache OpenOffice will cause
 confusion.

I just went to update the wiki to switch to the ooo- convention, and
somebody beat me to it :-D

My intent was to keep it as short as possible, but precedent is better.

Thanks,
-g

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 20:37:01 -0400:
 Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011 07:55:34 PM:
 
  
  I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
  mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.
  
  This is what I entered into the wiki:
  
  The following mailing lists:
  
  oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
  oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
  oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
  oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test 
  notifications
  
  Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
  anticipated that users will interact with the community through
  existing OpenOffice.org systems.
  
  
  In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
  we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
  incubation. Thoughts?
  
  The other four lists are pretty standard for Apache projects. Feedback
  most welcome!
  
 
 Could you review what user services Apache projects typically provide? I 
 assume it is one or more mailing lists, a bug tracker, and a release 
 repository.  Anything else?  User-facing blogs?  Forums, i.e., non-mail 
 enabled by default, as opposed to mailing lists? 

Per-project blogs on blogs.a.o.

No non-mail forums.

trademarks@ and press@ support on those lists.

Not sure about anything else at his time of the night^Wmorning.

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/5/2011 7:13 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just updated the proposal to provide more detail on the requested
 mailing lists. Figured it would be good to discuss here.

 This is what I entered into the wiki:
 
 The following mailing lists:

 oo-...@incubator.apache.org - for developer discussions
 oo-comm...@incubator.apache.org - for Subversion commit messages
 oo-iss...@incubator.apache.org - for JIRA change notifications
 oo-notificati...@incubator.apache.org - for continuous build/test 
 notifications

 Note: a users mailing is not being requested at this time. It is
 anticipated that users will interact with the community through
 existing OpenOffice.org systems.
 

 In particular, note the lack of a users mailing list. I don't think
 we'd want one to start, but may want it after a release is made during
 incubation. Thoughts?
 
 There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
 lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
 these are active and being brought across. It does suggest though that
 a single dev list is not sufficient.

Can you break these down into the number of projects generating 1 message
per day?

Likely there can be a bunch of efficiency here in only creating sublists
for the highest traffic topics.



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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread robert_weir
Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote on 06/05/2011 08:47:42 PM:

 
 Because this is my first mail, I give a short introduction to myself.
 
 I'm Raphael Bircher from Switzerland. I contribute for OOo since 5 years 

 as QA and in same other tecnical parts. I was involved by the migration 
 to the kenai Infrastructur, and I'm willing to help by seting up the new 

 infrastructure, if this help is welcome from the ASF side.
 

Thanks, and welcome aboard!   Expertise like yours will be essential to 
the success of the migration and initial setup work.

-Rob

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Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread robert_weir
sa3r...@gmail.com wrote on 06/05/2011 09:01:08 PM:
 
  Since this is question that is pervasive in the project, I'd recommend
  that after this proposal is accepted, that there be a consultation 
with
  ASF Legal Affairs on the trademark *before* any project infrastructure 
is
  created.
 
 Mention that in the proposal.
 
  -Rob


Done.

-Rob

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