Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
After reading Craig's report on Sanselan, I think there might be some integration possibilities with it. Maybe Craig and Noel could help with the "open positions" required for the project proposal. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now the project lacks a Champion and Mentors and I don't want to call > for a vote before having those. The proposal is also not as well written as > it should be because it lacks a lot of detail. However, as Noel mentioned > we are going to move the architecture discussions to the projects@ list so > that we can hammer out the rest of the details and get a better proposal > without flooding the general@ list. > > Angie > > At 07:58 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >> >> With regards to process, what is still missing that is preventing >> Angela to call a vote to get the project accepted into Incubation ? I >> just want to make sure we are not waiting for the suggestions from >> Sling and Tuscany, as I see these discussions and/or contributions as >> something that can happen during incubation in a much structured way. >> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> since currently this software project is merely an idea (along >> >> with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a >> >> perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready >> >> for a release just yet. :) >> > >> > When were either of those two things criteria for Incubation? And there >> > is >> > code, but to give credit, the project is prepared to discard all of it >> > in >> > order to build community. >> > >> >--- Noel >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Luciano Resende >> Apache Tuscany Committer >> http://people.apache.org/~lresende >> http://lresende.blogspot.com/ >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Right now the project lacks a Champion and Mentors and I don't want to call for a vote before having those. The proposal is also not as well written as it should be because it lacks a lot of detail. However, as Noel mentioned we are going to move the architecture discussions to the projects@ list so that we can hammer out the rest of the details and get a better proposal without flooding the general@ list. Angie At 07:58 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote: With regards to process, what is still missing that is preventing Angela to call a vote to get the project accepted into Incubation ? I just want to make sure we are not waiting for the suggestions from Sling and Tuscany, as I see these discussions and/or contributions as something that can happen during incubation in a much structured way. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> since currently this software project is merely an idea (along >> with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a >> perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready >> for a release just yet. :) > > When were either of those two things criteria for Incubation? And there is > code, but to give credit, the project is prepared to discard all of it in > order to build community. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
With regards to process, what is still missing that is preventing Angela to call a vote to get the project accepted into Incubation ? I just want to make sure we are not waiting for the suggestions from Sling and Tuscany, as I see these discussions and/or contributions as something that can happen during incubation in a much structured way. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> since currently this software project is merely an idea (along >> with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a >> perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready >> for a release just yet. :) > > When were either of those two things criteria for Incubation? And there is > code, but to give credit, the project is prepared to discard all of it in > order to build community. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> since currently this software project is merely an idea (along >> with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a >> perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready >> for a release just yet. :) > > When were either of those two things criteria for Incubation? And there is > code, but to give credit, the project is prepared to discard all of it in > order to build community. Which two things? As I said, the "codeless project" stuff was merely my understanding, whether it's based on actual facts or not I have no idea. The release part was mentioned because they said that labs projects can't do releases. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
> since currently this software project is merely an idea (along > with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a > perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready > for a release just yet. :) When were either of those two things criteria for Incubation? And there is code, but to give credit, the project is prepared to discard all of it in order to build community. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As bertrand mentioned, Labs are for existing committers only, and > Angela, who is proposing the project isn't a committer. Sorry, I saw Noel's comment about there being many codebases and thought he was party proposing this project (I'm pretty sure Noel's a committer :). So, perhaps start this project somewhere else first (get some code) and bring it to the incubator then. I didn't think the incubator was for codeless projects (my perception only and I have absolutely no documentation to support that :). Either way you go (labs vs. incubator), you're going to have to set up Angela as a committer somewhere. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Isn't labs for something already inside of Apache and the Incubator for >>> things outside of Apache? >> >> labs is for existing Apache committers, and labs are not allowed to >> release software. More at http://labs.apache.org/ > > And since currently this software project is merely an idea (along > with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a perfect > candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready for a release > just yet. :) > As bertrand mentioned, Labs are for existing committers only, and Angela, who is proposing the project isn't a committer. > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Isn't labs for something already inside of Apache and the Incubator for >> things outside of Apache? > > labs is for existing Apache committers, and labs are not allowed to > release software. More at http://labs.apache.org/ And since currently this software project is merely an idea (along with some previously tinkered with codebases), I'd say it's a perfect candidate for a lab. It doesn't sound like it's ready for a release just yet. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't labs for something already inside of Apache and the Incubator for > things outside of Apache? labs is for existing Apache committers, and labs are not allowed to release software. More at http://labs.apache.org/ -Bertrand > > Angie > > At 09:11 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote: >> >> If it's a new project, then why does it have to be incubated? >> Couldn't we just start up a "labs" project to tinker around with the >> idea. Then, when/if it builds up enough steam, promote it to a TLP? >> >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> o, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying >> >> to start a new project? >> > >> > There are several codebases (Angie's, mine, and others), but basically, >> > a >> > new project. >> > >> >--- Noel >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Bertrand Delacretaz http://www.codeconsult.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Isn't labs for something already inside of Apache and the Incubator for things outside of Apache? Angie At 09:11 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote: If it's a new project, then why does it have to be incubated? Couldn't we just start up a "labs" project to tinker around with the idea. Then, when/if it builds up enough steam, promote it to a TLP? On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> o, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying >> to start a new project? > > There are several codebases (Angie's, mine, and others), but basically, a > new project. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
If it's a new project, then why does it have to be incubated? Couldn't we just start up a "labs" project to tinker around with the idea. Then, when/if it builds up enough steam, promote it to a TLP? On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> o, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying >> to start a new project? > > There are several codebases (Angie's, mine, and others), but basically, a > new project. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Ok, so we're talking about incubating an idea, then? On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> o, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying >> to start a new project? > > There are several codebases (Angie's, mine, and others), but basically, a > new project. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
> o, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying > to start a new project? There are several codebases (Angie's, mine, and others), but basically, a new project. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
So, does this photo gallery software currently exist or are you trying to start a new project? On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have started some discussions on getting a prototype based on > Tuscany + Sling [1]. > The code will be available at [2] > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40tuscany.apache.org/msg00442.html > [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/java/sca/samples/photo-gallery/ > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Ziegeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Angela Cymbalak wrote: >>> >>> Is there somewhere that I can take a look at the code? Would you mind if >>> it were drawn from for a new project? >>> >> No, the code is not yet available - but I hope to commit it around the >> weekend. >> I'll you know. Feel free to use it, or withdraw the idea after looking at it >> :) >> >> Carsten >> -- >> Carsten Ziegeler >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > -- > Luciano Resende > Apache Tuscany Committer > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...I have started some discussions on getting a prototype based on > Tuscany + Sling [1]. > The code will be available at [2]... Please ping us on the sling dev list if you need sling-specific help, or when you have something to show. I have not had time to look at Tuscany yet, but if you can show us how it can play with Sling I'm all ears! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
I have started some discussions on getting a prototype based on Tuscany + Sling [1]. The code will be available at [2] [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40tuscany.apache.org/msg00442.html [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/java/sca/samples/photo-gallery/ On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Ziegeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Angela Cymbalak wrote: >> >> Is there somewhere that I can take a look at the code? Would you mind if >> it were drawn from for a new project? >> > No, the code is not yet available - but I hope to commit it around the > weekend. > I'll you know. Feel free to use it, or withdraw the idea after looking at it > :) > > Carsten > -- > Carsten Ziegeler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Hi, Angela Cymbalak wrote: Is there somewhere that I can take a look at the code? Would you mind if it were drawn from for a new project? No, the code is not yet available - but I hope to commit it around the weekend. I'll you know. Feel free to use it, or withdraw the idea after looking at it :) Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Is there somewhere that I can take a look at the code? Would you mind if it were drawn from for a new project? Everyone has great ideas and it looks like this software could showcase how to use the different Apache projects together to create something new. I will update the proposal with the Sling and Tuscany ideas. If anyone else has ideas, please throw them out there. In order to be considered, the project would still need a champion and 3 mentors. And, the proposal needs to answer any questions that exist. What other questions are there? I now I am missing things. Angie At 05:00 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Does anyone from the Sling project have any thoughts on this?... Sling should make it very easy to create photo gallery software, the JCR repository observation feature for example, makes it easy to "listen" for incoming files and process them, to generate thumbnails or alternate renderings. And the WebDAV interface is very convenient to drop files into the JCR repository. Sling's RESTful scripting and/or servlets should also make it easy to provide a REST interface on the photo gallery. I wrote a simple gallery example with Sling for my JCR talk in Amsterdam. I still didn't have time to make it "clean" from the code point of view so that it can serve as a good example for Sling :( But it's still on my todo list and I hope to get it done this week... Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Its looking like if we glue together a whole bunch of existing Apache and Incubator projects that we won't have a whole lot of code to actually write. :-) That all by itself can be a challenge. Angie At 08:14 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been a lot of going back and forth. Originally there seemed to be > little interest at the Incubator so I was talking to the Roller folks. > There is some interest over there but a disagreement on how to write the > code. At the same time there started to be interest at the Incubator again > and the idea is starting to take hold. Then I got really busy... Now I > need to start re-working on the proposal since other discussions have taken > place and the idea is becoming more formed. > > As for the front end, the current idea is to expose the data held in the > repository as a Web service. I would be more than happy to see a Flex front > end built that is a client to the Web service. Personally, I would like to > see an AJAX front end, but I know that some people dislike the lack of > security around AJAX. In simplistic words, by using Apache Tuscany and SCA to define your your photo gallery component, you can decouple the business logic from the transport infrastructure specific APIs; and then expose your services trough multiple bindings such as webservices, web 2.0, etc and although we don't have a flex binding today, one could easily create a new binding in Tuscany to support it. This should simplify the framework and make the task of supporting a new type of client (flex versus ajax, etc) much easier. > > I like Hans' suggestions for the name as well. If there are other ideas for > a name, feel free to throw them out there. I would like to find something > that is interesting, yet allows someone to easily determine what the project > is. That is proving to be a big challenge. > photoGallery stillGallery imageGallery Niépce NiépceGallery > Angie > > > At 01:33 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote: >> >> I'm a little confused, because the wiki says that the proposal is being >> put >> on hold and that the goal is to work with the Roller community. >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal >> >> Nevertheless, if there's interest in building a Flex front end, let me >> know... >> >> -- >> Martin Cooper >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I haven't forgotten about wanting to create an open source Photo Gallery >> > and there has been some sporadic interest as I have discussed it. A >> > quick >> > update as to where we are at for anyone who is interested. >> > >> > 1. Name change >> > No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't >> > obvious >> > what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the >> > path >> > suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius >> > >> > 2. Code Bases >> > There are 2 code bases that we can draw from and discard that I have >> > heard >> > of. Always a good start >> > >> > 3. Design >> > Right now thought is being put into the high level design to improve the >> > Proposal. The current proposal is bad. I take credit for that because >> > I >> > haven't done the Apache thing before and I am tripping all over while >> > trying >> > to stay on the right path. The current thought is to defiantly write >> > the >> > application in Java. Its secure, it scales well, we like it. The >> > thought >> > is to look into Sling and the JCR as well as different databases. I >> > have to >> > do reading on Sling to figure out how it all fits together. Pretty >> > much, we >> > are focusing on the back end first with the possibility of a Web service >> > for >> > the front end to start. This lets anyone out there write nice pretty >> > display pieces. I like AJAX as a front end but others who I have >> > talked to >> > don't. We can agree on the Web service for right now. >> > >> > If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute or if you have >> > comments/suggestions about this proposal please let me know. The >> > interest >> > seems to be lurking out there, we just need to get it organized. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Angie >> > >> > -- >> > Angela Cymbalak >> > Nechtan Design >> > http://www.nechtandesign.com/ >> > 412.931.4663 >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
All doubts on Sling have gone out the window. I will update the proposal accordingly. I don't mind the idea of working with the Sling project at all. I am most interested in the problem space. For the moment I will continue updating the proposal. Even if it doesn't become its very own project, having the proposal written will still provide a good road map as we start to move the project forward. Angie At 06:01 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that > and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Does anyone from the > Sling project have any thoughts on this?... Sling should make it very easy to create photo gallery software, the JCR repository observation feature for example, makes it easy to "listen" for incoming files and process them, to generate thumbnails or alternate renderings. And the WebDAV interface is very convenient to drop files into the JCR repository. Sling's RESTful scripting and/or servlets should also make it easy to provide a REST interface on the photo gallery. Docs and examples for Sling are quite thin at the moment, but a photo gallery would be a good example indeed, and Sling is looking for more contributors. If you're willing to give it a shot over there, we'll do our best to put you on the right track. -Bertrand (Sling committer) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Does anyone from the Sling project have any thoughts on this?... Sling should make it very easy to create photo gallery software, the JCR repository observation feature for example, makes it easy to "listen" for incoming files and process them, to generate thumbnails or alternate renderings. And the WebDAV interface is very convenient to drop files into the JCR repository. Sling's RESTful scripting and/or servlets should also make it easy to provide a REST interface on the photo gallery. I wrote a simple gallery example with Sling for my JCR talk in Amsterdam. I still didn't have time to make it "clean" from the code point of view so that it can serve as a good example for Sling :( But it's still on my todo list and I hope to get it done this week... Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been a lot of going back and forth. Originally there seemed to be > little interest at the Incubator so I was talking to the Roller folks. > There is some interest over there but a disagreement on how to write the > code. At the same time there started to be interest at the Incubator again > and the idea is starting to take hold. Then I got really busy... Now I > need to start re-working on the proposal since other discussions have taken > place and the idea is becoming more formed. > > As for the front end, the current idea is to expose the data held in the > repository as a Web service. I would be more than happy to see a Flex front > end built that is a client to the Web service. Personally, I would like to > see an AJAX front end, but I know that some people dislike the lack of > security around AJAX. In simplistic words, by using Apache Tuscany and SCA to define your your photo gallery component, you can decouple the business logic from the transport infrastructure specific APIs; and then expose your services trough multiple bindings such as webservices, web 2.0, etc and although we don't have a flex binding today, one could easily create a new binding in Tuscany to support it. This should simplify the framework and make the task of supporting a new type of client (flex versus ajax, etc) much easier. > > I like Hans' suggestions for the name as well. If there are other ideas for > a name, feel free to throw them out there. I would like to find something > that is interesting, yet allows someone to easily determine what the project > is. That is proving to be a big challenge. > photoGallery stillGallery imageGallery Niépce NiépceGallery > Angie > > > At 01:33 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote: >> >> I'm a little confused, because the wiki says that the proposal is being >> put >> on hold and that the goal is to work with the Roller community. >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal >> >> Nevertheless, if there's interest in building a Flex front end, let me >> know... >> >> -- >> Martin Cooper >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I haven't forgotten about wanting to create an open source Photo Gallery >> > and there has been some sporadic interest as I have discussed it. A >> > quick >> > update as to where we are at for anyone who is interested. >> > >> > 1. Name change >> > No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't >> > obvious >> > what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the >> > path >> > suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius >> > >> > 2. Code Bases >> > There are 2 code bases that we can draw from and discard that I have >> > heard >> > of. Always a good start >> > >> > 3. Design >> > Right now thought is being put into the high level design to improve the >> > Proposal. The current proposal is bad. I take credit for that because >> > I >> > haven't done the Apache thing before and I am tripping all over while >> > trying >> > to stay on the right path. The current thought is to defiantly write >> > the >> > application in Java. Its secure, it scales well, we like it. The >> > thought >> > is to look into Sling and the JCR as well as different databases. I >> > have to >> > do reading on Sling to figure out how it all fits together. Pretty >> > much, we >> > are focusing on the back end first with the possibility of a Web service >> > for >> > the front end to start. This lets anyone out there write nice pretty >> > display pieces. I like AJAX as a front end but others who I have >> > talked to >> > don't. We can agree on the Web service for right now. >> > >> > If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute or if you have >> > comments/suggestions about this proposal please let me know. The >> > interest >> > seems to be lurking out there, we just need to get it organized. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Angie >> > >> > -- >> > Angela Cymbalak >> > Nechtan Design >> > http://www.nechtandesign.com/ >> > 412.931.4663 >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that > and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Does anyone from the > Sling project have any thoughts on this?... Sling should make it very easy to create photo gallery software, the JCR repository observation feature for example, makes it easy to "listen" for incoming files and process them, to generate thumbnails or alternate renderings. And the WebDAV interface is very convenient to drop files into the JCR repository. Sling's RESTful scripting and/or servlets should also make it easy to provide a REST interface on the photo gallery. Docs and examples for Sling are quite thin at the moment, but a photo gallery would be a good example indeed, and Sling is looking for more contributors. If you're willing to give it a shot over there, we'll do our best to put you on the right track. -Bertrand (Sling committer) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
At 04:32 PM 6/30/2008, Noel wrote: > I am convinced that Jackrabbit is the direction to go for the > mid-tier of the application. My only question is whether or not we lose anything from that decision, but if I didn't think that the JCR was the right way to go, I wouldn't have brought it up. I don't think we loose anything. If I am reading the spec correctly for the JCR, we actually gain. Instead of dictating the storage mechanism we can easily give a choice. We can give a default storage mechanism (I would say the filesystem because everyone already has it) but if someone wants to replace that with a database or anything else they can. We gain a lot of flexibility that allows the application to be small and compact for a personal application, but the scalability that will make it a viable enterprise option. > I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that RESTful interface and ready-made framework for building applications that use the project, perhaps even substantial parts of the project, itself? +1, if you are convinced that a RESTful interface is the way to go. I am mostly convinced it is a good way to go because there are large portions of the project that are already done if we go that way. As with your question above: do we lose anything by going with a RESTful interface? I haven't thought of anything and since I can't disprove it Angie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
Angela Cymbalak wrote: > I am convinced that Jackrabbit is the direction to go for the > mid-tier of the application. My only question is whether or not we lose anything from that decision, but if I didn't think that the JCR was the right way to go, I wouldn't have brought it up. > I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that RESTful interface and ready-made framework for building applications that use the project, perhaps even substantial parts of the project, itself? > and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Sling is a frontend to the JCR, so that would seem to follow without consequence. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
These are all great suggestions. Of course, I have my favorites but I am interested in seeing what others who may be interested have to say. I have also updated the proposal a bit. Any ideas would be great to hear! I am convinced that Jackrabbit is the direction to go for the mid-tier of the application. I just haven't figured out how Sling may play into that and what that means for the actual storage mechanism. Does anyone from the Sling project have any thoughts on this? Angie At 02:42 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: sebb wrote: BiblioPic? Biblimage already seems to be used for similar software. BiblioImage seems to be a name for an international festival. PicAndMix ;-) PhoGal PhoGa Foga SnapLib SnapStore PicStore SnapShow PicShow You missed "PicLib" :-) cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
sebb wrote: BiblioPic? Biblimage already seems to be used for similar software. BiblioImage seems to be a name for an international festival. PicAndMix ;-) PhoGal PhoGa Foga SnapLib SnapStore PicStore SnapShow PicShow You missed "PicLib" :-) cheers, Roland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
On 27/06/2008, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been a lot of going back and forth. Originally there seemed to be > little interest at the Incubator so I was talking to the Roller folks. > There is some interest over there but a disagreement on how to write the > code. At the same time there started to be interest at the Incubator again > and the idea is starting to take hold. Then I got really busy... Now I > need to start re-working on the proposal since other discussions have taken > place and the idea is becoming more formed. > > As for the front end, the current idea is to expose the data held in the > repository as a Web service. I would be more than happy to see a Flex front > end built that is a client to the Web service. Personally, I would like to > see an AJAX front end, but I know that some people dislike the lack of > security around AJAX. > > I like Hans' suggestions for the name as well. If there are other ideas > for a name, feel free to throw them out there. I would like to find > something that is interesting, yet allows someone to easily determine what > the project is. That is proving to be a big challenge. > BiblioPic? Biblimage already seems to be used for similar software. BiblioImage seems to be a name for an international festival. PicAndMix ;-) PhoGal PhoGa Foga SnapLib SnapStore PicStore SnapShow PicShow > Angie > > > > At 01:33 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote: > > > I'm a little confused, because the wiki says that the proposal is being > put > > on hold and that the goal is to work with the Roller community. > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal > > > > Nevertheless, if there's interest in building a Flex front end, let me > > know... > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I haven't forgotten about wanting to create an open source Photo Gallery > > > and there has been some sporadic interest as I have discussed it. A > quick > > > update as to where we are at for anyone who is interested. > > > > > > 1. Name change > > > No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't > obvious > > > what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the > path > > > suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius > > > > > > 2. Code Bases > > > There are 2 code bases that we can draw from and discard that I have > heard > > > of. Always a good start > > > > > > 3. Design > > > Right now thought is being put into the high level design to improve the > > > Proposal. The current proposal is bad. I take credit for that because > I > > > haven't done the Apache thing before and I am tripping all over while > trying > > > to stay on the right path. The current thought is to defiantly write > the > > > application in Java. Its secure, it scales well, we like it. The > thought > > > is to look into Sling and the JCR as well as different databases. I > have to > > > do reading on Sling to figure out how it all fits together. Pretty > much, we > > > are focusing on the back end first with the possibility of a Web service > for > > > the front end to start. This lets anyone out there write nice pretty > > > display pieces. I like AJAX as a front end but others who I have > talked to > > > don't. We can agree on the Web service for right now. > > > > > > If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute or if you have > > > comments/suggestions about this proposal please let me know. The > interest > > > seems to be lurking out there, we just need to get it organized. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Angie > > > > > > -- > > > Angela Cymbalak > > > Nechtan Design > > > http://www.nechtandesign.com/ > > > 412.931.4663 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
There has been a lot of going back and forth. Originally there seemed to be little interest at the Incubator so I was talking to the Roller folks. There is some interest over there but a disagreement on how to write the code. At the same time there started to be interest at the Incubator again and the idea is starting to take hold. Then I got really busy... Now I need to start re-working on the proposal since other discussions have taken place and the idea is becoming more formed. As for the front end, the current idea is to expose the data held in the repository as a Web service. I would be more than happy to see a Flex front end built that is a client to the Web service. Personally, I would like to see an AJAX front end, but I know that some people dislike the lack of security around AJAX. I like Hans' suggestions for the name as well. If there are other ideas for a name, feel free to throw them out there. I would like to find something that is interesting, yet allows someone to easily determine what the project is. That is proving to be a big challenge. Angie At 01:33 AM 6/27/2008, you wrote: I'm a little confused, because the wiki says that the proposal is being put on hold and that the goal is to work with the Roller community. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal Nevertheless, if there's interest in building a Flex front end, let me know... -- Martin Cooper On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I haven't forgotten about wanting to create an open source Photo Gallery > and there has been some sporadic interest as I have discussed it. A quick > update as to where we are at for anyone who is interested. > > 1. Name change > No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't obvious > what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the path > suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius > > 2. Code Bases > There are 2 code bases that we can draw from and discard that I have heard > of. Always a good start > > 3. Design > Right now thought is being put into the high level design to improve the > Proposal. The current proposal is bad. I take credit for that because I > haven't done the Apache thing before and I am tripping all over while trying > to stay on the right path. The current thought is to defiantly write the > application in Java. Its secure, it scales well, we like it. The thought > is to look into Sling and the JCR as well as different databases. I have to > do reading on Sling to figure out how it all fits together. Pretty much, we > are focusing on the back end first with the possibility of a Web service for > the front end to start. This lets anyone out there write nice pretty > display pieces. I like AJAX as a front end but others who I have talked to > don't. We can agree on the Web service for right now. > > If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute or if you have > comments/suggestions about this proposal please let me know. The interest > seems to be lurking out there, we just need to get it organized. > > Thanks, > Angie > > -- > Angela Cymbalak > Nechtan Design > http://www.nechtandesign.com/ > 412.931.4663 > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
I'm a little confused, because the wiki says that the proposal is being put on hold and that the goal is to work with the Roller community. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CaitrinProposal Nevertheless, if there's interest in building a Flex front end, let me know... -- Martin Cooper On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Angela Cymbalak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I haven't forgotten about wanting to create an open source Photo Gallery > and there has been some sporadic interest as I have discussed it. A quick > update as to where we are at for anyone who is interested. > > 1. Name change > No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't obvious > what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the path > suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius > > 2. Code Bases > There are 2 code bases that we can draw from and discard that I have heard > of. Always a good start > > 3. Design > Right now thought is being put into the high level design to improve the > Proposal. The current proposal is bad. I take credit for that because I > haven't done the Apache thing before and I am tripping all over while trying > to stay on the right path. The current thought is to defiantly write the > application in Java. Its secure, it scales well, we like it. The thought > is to look into Sling and the JCR as well as different databases. I have to > do reading on Sling to figure out how it all fits together. Pretty much, we > are focusing on the back end first with the possibility of a Web service for > the front end to start. This lets anyone out there write nice pretty > display pieces. I like AJAX as a front end but others who I have talked to > don't. We can agree on the Web service for right now. > > If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute or if you have > comments/suggestions about this proposal please let me know. The interest > seems to be lurking out there, we just need to get it organized. > > Thanks, > Angie > > -- > Angela Cymbalak > Nechtan Design > http://www.nechtandesign.com/ > 412.931.4663 > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: photo gallery software (previously called Caitrin)
> 1. Name change
> No one but me knows where the name Caitrin came from and it isn't obvious
> what the software would do. A proposed solution (thanks Noel for the path
> suggestion) would be PhosLibrarius
I don't think the new name is much better! Who knows what "Phos" is? Vietnamese
noodle soup? ;)
(Btw, mix of Greek and Latin is cumbersome. Perhaps "LuxLibrarius" or
"PhosBiblioteka"
or some derivation ("LibraLux") thereof could be better?)
Hans
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