Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Ian Kallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


My unsolicited opinion: projects focused on the manipulation and purveyance of
data as XML could/should  belong in the xml.apache.org project while
implementations  of Java technologies associate with Jakarta.  There's 
nothing Java specific about XML-RPC and SOAP (buh, that's the point).  If I had
my druthers, slide and other projects that have nothing to do with
implementations of Java technologies per se but happen to be implemented using
Java shouldn't be part of Jakarta (nothing against slide but content management
and WebDAV are not Java technologies per se).  Ergo, the Helma XML-RPC
project, if it should be an Apache project at all, belongs with SOAP, Xerces,
Xalan and so forth (irrespective of the fact that they are implementented in
Java); they are implementations of XML technologies and therefore belong in
under the xml.apache.org umbrella; Jason van Zyl's shrill complaint otherwise
not withstanding.  

cheers,
-Ian

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 7/3/01 8:56 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>> You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
>> interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
>> XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have
>> been using XML-RPC for a long while now and it's simple and works
>> great.
> 
> Hmmm.  I guess it is fair to say that Turbine is not interested in
> integrating with Cocoon.  If you ignore the recent warm welcome that Berin
> has seen, and focus just on the fact that this work has never bubbled to
> the top of any existing turbine committers todo list, then I guess it must
> be true.

I would definitely say that is a fair summation. No one is interested
or someone would be working on it. Berin is now, out of a requirement
and that¹s great if Turbine and Cocoon work together eventually
that's great. 
 
> XML-RPC has not bubbled to the top of my todo list at the moment.

That's because you have no real need for it I would say. It
fits in with the plans for axis but it seems xml-rpc hasn't
bubbled anywhere near the top of anyone's todo list. I might
eventually use axis, but integrating xml-rpc into axis isn't
on the top of my todo list either.

> But I
> will warmly welcome anybody who wishes to work on it.

But that's never happened though, has it? The presence
of an xml-rpc package at apache may cause someone to
pick up that torch but I don't see why the package
being at xml.apache.org would improve those odds.
 
>> If you are suggesting that the code be immediately be absorbed
>> into xml-soap than I definitely don't agree. Is that what you're
>> suggesting?
> 
> Can you honestly say that you have done your homework?

Again you are not answering the question. What homework do I have to
do Sam? I proposed a package that is self contained, self sustaining,
and completely independent of any other project at Apache. It may
certainly be related to other projects, I agree with that. But
my immediate concern is a home for the package, not trying to
integrate it with axis.
 
> All I ask is that if/when you do, you approach the problem with an open
> mind and a can do attitude, not simply look for reasons why it can't work.

I still don't know what you mean exactly by 'can't work' work because
so far it is entirely unclear what you would actually do with the code.

Let's say I'm Hannes and offer you the XML-RPC code, what exactly
is the proposal you would make on [EMAIL PROTECTED] A simple paragraph
stating what you would like to do with the code would help me a lot in
understanding your POV.

I have tried to contact Hannes to see what he thinks, I've asked
him to join the list and join the discussion.

> And I will promise to meet you more than half way.

I would be glad to meet you half way when I know what direction you're
walking in.
 
> - Sam Ruby
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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby

Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
> interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
> XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have
> been using XML-RPC for a long while now and it's simple and works
> great.

Hmmm.  I guess it is fair to say that Turbine is not interested in
integrating with Cocoon.  If you ignore the recent warm welcome that Berin
has seen, and focus just on the fact that this work has never bubbled to
the top of any existing turbine committers todo list, then I guess it must
be true.

XML-RPC has not bubble to the top of my todo list at the moment.But I
will warmly welcome anybody who wishes to work on it.

> If you are suggesting that the code be immediately be absorbed
> into xml-soap than I definitely don't agree. Is that what you're
> suggesting?

Can you honestly say that you have done your homework?

All I ask is that if/when you do, you approach the problem with an open
mind and a can do attitude, not simply look for reasons why it can't work.
And I will promise to meet you more than half way.

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 7/3/01 8:34 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>> I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name.
>> Fair enough. You've had two people so far.
> 
> Not fair.  I can't speak for others, but I am an active committer on
> xml-soap and xml-apache (two different projects only in the sense that
> Tomcat 3 and 4 are, so it is in all how you count).  And Jon specifically
> did call out the potential relationship with soap.
> 
> My two cents: the first path should always be to work within existing
> projects.  If/when that fails, then pursue alternatives.
> 
> I've not seen anybody on your list on the xml-axis mailing list.  Give it a
> whirl.  Together, we can do more then separately...

You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have
been using XML-RPC for a long while now and it's simple and works
great.

If you are suggesting that the code be immediately be absorbed
into xml-soap than I definitely don't agree. Is that what you're
suggesting?
 
> - Sam Ruby
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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 7/3/01 8:10 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>> xml.apache.org.
> 
> I agree 100% with Sam...

Again, that's an unqualified response. I responsed to Sam when he
clarified his position. I will gladly respond to yours when you
do the same.
 
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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby

Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name.
> Fair enough. You've had two people so far.

Not fair.  I can't speak for others, but I am an active committer on
xml-soap and xml-apache (two different projects only in the sense that
Tomcat 3 and 4 are, so it is in all how you count).  And Jon specifically
did call out the potential relationship with soap.

My two cents: the first path should always be to work within existing
projects.  If/when that fails, then pursue alternatives.

I've not seen anybody on your list on the xml-axis mailing list.  Give it a
whirl.  Together, we can do more then separately...

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
> xml.apache.org.

I agree 100% with Sam...

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 7/3/01 4:36 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>>> xml.apache.org.
>> 
>> Reasons?
> 
> The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap.  This restructuring
> was initiated with the expressed intent of providing a foundation for
> supporting multiple protocols, including, XML-RPC.  To date, however, we
> have been unsuccessful in getting anyone interested enough to work on
> supporting the XML-RPC protocol.

I find that a very unconvincing argument. You suggest having the XML-RPC
package housed at xml.apache.org because no one is interested in it. No one
at xml.apache.org did the leg work to find an XML-RPC implementation whose
author was willing to donate it. If there is such a lack of interest
in XML-RPC I definitely feel that Jakarta is a better place for it.

If there eventual interest than there is no reason why the XML-RPC
package can't be integrated into xml-axis. But at present you say there
is no interest, so I would say xml.apache.org is not the right place
for the XML-RPC package. You yourself would like to see XML-RPC integrated
into xml-axis but as yet no one has done anything about it.
 
> This being said, I don't want to pre-judge the result as to whether or not
> the current Axis code base is a good fit; it might very well be appropriate
> that these two projects belong side by side.  Don't get me wrong, my clear
> preference is for the former, but if the latter is meant to be, then so be
> it.  But side by side, not pitting one PMC against another within Apache
> land.

I think you're jumping the gun here. I think the project should definitely
start on its own. If someone is interested in integrating the XML-RPC code
into xml-axis than they are free to do so. Whether the code will fit with
axis is an irrelevant question at this point in time.
 
> Additionally, the Jakarta project is a bit on the large side, so I am
> concerned about growth - that in itself is not a showstopper, but is a
> concern and if there is at least an equally good fit in xml, then that is a
> better home.  

I fail to see your reasoning. How is managing another package less a burden
to one project and not another? It's another project at Apache and will
require time and resources. The initial set of committers will go where
the code goes. Jakarta has 18 projects, xml.apache.org has 14. So I don't
see that as a convincing argument either. If you are saying that Apache
as a whole should slow down in absorbing more projects, than I would
probably agree with you.

> Also note that the XML PMC has taken a different path, there
> is not a mapping of PMC members to subprojects; this being said, if the
> right home for XML-RPC is in xml.apache, then I will promise to watch over
> it (I am a PMC member there).

I appreciate the sentiment :-)
 
> I also noted that a number of other Jakarta PMC members expressed similar
> concerns, presumably without my prompting.

I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name.
Fair enough. You've had two people so far.

My reasons for Jakarta are 1) The impetus for the proposal came from the
initial list of committers who are involved in Jakarta. I think our wishes
should count for something. And we decided to make the proposal here after
some discussion. 2) I don't think xml.apache.org would provide a good fit
because  a) no one started an xml-rpc implementation for xml-axis and b) no
one tried to find anyone with an existing implementation. How could
xml.apache.org be a better or even equal fit.

I would like this not to drag out. The initial list of committers would
prefer this to be a Jakarta project. I would like to vote and go from
there.
 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> P.S.  A quick peek at the code base - no Ant, yet another XML parser
> (non-JAXP, non-Apache).  Not insurmountable, but it would be nice to be
> fixed...

I have the latest code with an Ant build that Josh Lucas cleaned up,
and it uses xerces as the default parser.
 
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Re: Licensing question

2001-07-03 Thread Jon Stevens

on 7/3/01 1:34 PM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> We have a developer who would like to contribute a piece of code under the
> Apache software license but at the same time would like to keep using the same
> piece of code under a different (the original) license. I am sure this not the
> first time this happens. How did the foundation deal with the situation in the
> past? 
> 
> TIA, Ceki

There is no problem with that. She owns the copyright on her version of the
code and the ASF owns the copyright on the version donated to the ASF.

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby

Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
>> xml.apache.org.
>
> Reasons?

The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap.  This restructuring
was initiated with the expressed intent of providing a foundation for
supporting multiple protocols, including, XML-RPC.  To date, however, we
have been unsuccessful in getting anyone interested enough to work on
supporting the XML-RPC protocol.

This being said, I don't want to pre-judge the result as to whether or not
the current Axis code base is a good fit; it might very well be appropriate
that these two projects belong side by side.  Don't get me wrong, my clear
preference is for the former, but if the latter is meant to be, then so be
it.  But side by side, not pitting one PMC against another within Apache
land.

Additionally, the Jakarta project is a bit on the large side, so I am
concerned about growth - that in itself is not a showstopper, but is a
concern and if there is at least an equally good fit in xml, then that is a
better home.  Also note that the XML PMC has taken a different path, there
is not a mapping of PMC members to subprojects; this being said, if the
right home for XML-RPC is in xml.apache, then I will promise to watch over
it (I am a PMC member there).

I also noted that a number of other Jakarta PMC members expressed similar
concerns, presumably without my prompting.

- Sam Ruby

P.S.  A quick peek at the code base - no Ant, yet another XML parser
(non-JAXP, non-Apache).  Not insurmountable, but it would be nice to be
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Licensing question

2001-07-03 Thread Ceki Gülcü


Hello,

We have a developer who would like to contribute a piece of code under the Apache 
software license but at the same time would like to keep using the same piece of code 
under a different (the original) license. I am sure this not the first time this 
happens. How did the foundation deal with the situation in the past? 

TIA, Ceki


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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Terry McBride

Jason makes a very good point.

I believe we could see XML-RPC become a integral
component to other jakarta projects.

Terry McBride

--- Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/3/01 11:27 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I strongly believe that any any such nomination
> should be to
> > xml.apache.org.
> 
> Reasons?
> 
> It does use XML, sure, but it is primarily a set of
> servers and
> clients which I think fits in more with Jakarta.
> It's an XML
> technology, but so is the digester in the commons,
> Jetspeed was
> going to move to xml.apache.org but landed in
> jakarta. Ant is a tool
> that uses XML exclusively (right now anyway) and
> it's in Jakarta.
> 
> I'm not fussy where it is nominated, but being an
> xml.apache.org project
> means I cannot volunteer to be the PMC member to
> watch over it. And that is
> certainly one of the reasons I proposed it here. I
> also think it makes
> sense to have XML-RPC land in the project where most
> of the initial
> committers are involved and that¹s Jakarta.
> 
> What's important is trying to find a home for the
> XML-RPC package.
> So if we decide that Jakarta isn't the place for it,
> though I
> believe it is, than should I post the same proposal
> to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> 
> > 
> > - Sam Ruby
> > 
> > 
> > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/03/2001
> 10:19:36 AM
> > 
> > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:
> > Subject:  Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I would like to propose the movement of the Helma
> XML-RCP package
> > (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma 
> XML-RPC package
> > is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> > Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the
> Jakarta project.
> > 
> > There is an active community based around the
> package but organizing the
> > effort is something that Hannes would like some
> help with.
> > 
> > The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in
> Turbine,
> > will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used
> in the Helma
> > project itself so interest will not drop off any
> time in the
> > near future.
> > 
> > There is full documentation for the XML-RPC
> package, and we are
> > working on a test bed so the code is in good shape
> and healthy.
> > I am also willing to be the PMC member that
> oversees the project.
> > 
> > We have an initial committers list as follows:
> > 
> > Hannes Wallnoefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > John Thorhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Leonard Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Josh Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > There are also people on the XML-RPC dev list that
> are not
> > listed here but who are active. So it is likely
> that
> > this list will double in size very shortly.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > --
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> > jvz.
> > 
> > Jason van Zyl
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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 7/3/01 11:27 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
> xml.apache.org.

Reasons?

It does use XML, sure, but it is primarily a set of servers and
clients which I think fits in more with Jakarta. It's an XML
technology, but so is the digester in the commons, Jetspeed was
going to move to xml.apache.org but landed in jakarta. Ant is a tool
that uses XML exclusively (right now anyway) and it's in Jakarta.

I'm not fussy where it is nominated, but being an xml.apache.org project
means I cannot volunteer to be the PMC member to watch over it. And that is
certainly one of the reasons I proposed it here. I also think it makes
sense to have XML-RPC land in the project where most of the initial
committers are involved and that¹s Jakarta.

What's important is trying to find a home for the XML-RPC package.
So if we decide that Jakarta isn't the place for it, though I
believe it is, than should I post the same proposal to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]?

> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> 
> Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/03/2001 10:19:36 AM
> 
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> Subject:  Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
> (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
> is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.
> 
> There is an active community based around the package but organizing the
> effort is something that Hannes would like some help with.
> 
> The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in Turbine,
> will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used in the Helma
> project itself so interest will not drop off any time in the
> near future.
> 
> There is full documentation for the XML-RPC package, and we are
> working on a test bed so the code is in good shape and healthy.
> I am also willing to be the PMC member that oversees the project.
> 
> We have an initial committers list as follows:
> 
> Hannes Wallnoefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Thorhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Leonard Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Josh Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> There are also people on the XML-RPC dev list that are not
> listed here but who are active. So it is likely that
> this list will double in size very shortly.
> 
> Thoughts?
> --
> 
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
> (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
> is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.
> 
> There is an active community based around the package but organizing the
> effort is something that Hannes would like some help with.
> 
> The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in Turbine,
> will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used in the Helma
> project itself so interest will not drop off any time in the
> near future.
> 
> There is full documentation for the XML-RPC package, and we are
> working on a test bed so the code is in good shape and healthy.
> I am also willing to be the PMC member that oversees the project.
> 
> We have an initial committers list as follows:
> 
> Hannes Wallnoefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Thorhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Leonard Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Josh Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> There are also people on the XML-RPC dev list that are not
> listed here but who are active. So it is likely that
> this list will double in size very shortly.
> 
> Thoughts?

Does that belong here in Jakarta or in XML land?  Either way, +1 from
me, btw.

geir

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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jon Stevens

on 7/3/01 7:19 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
> (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
> is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
> Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.

Since SOAP is already over on xml.apache.org, shouldn't this go there as
well?

-jon


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RE: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread GOMEZ Henri

>I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
>(http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
>is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
>Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.
>
>There is an active community based around the package but 
>organizing the
>effort is something that Hannes would like some help with.
>
>The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in Turbine,
>will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used in the Helma
>project itself so interest will not drop off any time in the
>near future.
>
>There is full documentation for the XML-RPC package, and we are
>working on a test bed so the code is in good shape and healthy.
>I am also willing to be the PMC member that oversees the project.

I'm not in PMC but that's an interesting work which may be 
for usefull in jakarta-tomcat (and its connectors)...


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Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby

I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to
xml.apache.org.

- Sam Ruby


Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/03/2001 10:19:36 AM

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Hello,

I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
(http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.

There is an active community based around the package but organizing the
effort is something that Hannes would like some help with.

The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in Turbine,
will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used in the Helma
project itself so interest will not drop off any time in the
near future.

There is full documentation for the XML-RPC package, and we are
working on a test bed so the code is in good shape and healthy.
I am also willing to be the PMC member that oversees the project.

We have an initial committers list as follows:

Hannes Wallnoefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John Thorhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Leonard Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Josh Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There are also people on the XML-RPC dev list that are not
listed here but who are active. So it is likely that
this list will double in size very shortly.

Thoughts?
--

jvz.

Jason van Zyl

http://tambora.zenplex.org
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons



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Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl

Hello,

I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package
(http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma  XML-RPC package
is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes
Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project.

There is an active community based around the package but organizing the
effort is something that Hannes would like some help with.

The Helma XML-RPC package is used extensively in Turbine,
will be used extensively by CollabNet, and is used in the Helma
project itself so interest will not drop off any time in the
near future.

There is full documentation for the XML-RPC package, and we are
working on a test bed so the code is in good shape and healthy.
I am also willing to be the PMC member that oversees the project.

We have an initial committers list as follows:

Hannes Wallnoefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John Thorhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Leonard Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Josh Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There are also people on the XML-RPC dev list that are not
listed here but who are active. So it is likely that
this list will double in size very shortly.

Thoughts?
-- 

jvz.

Jason van Zyl

http://tambora.zenplex.org
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons



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