Re: O'Reilly Network: Why JSP Sucks So Hard

[Punky Tse]

Coincidentially, I had this one in my 'blogs:

http://www.punknix.com/weblogs.html#Is%20JSP%20Really%20Suck?

- Punky


Andrew C. Oliver wrote:


http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/2423

-Andy


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Re: Ant won JavaWorld Editor's Award

[Punky Tse]

James,
You should also deserve to have the award and applause.

I know somebody may say the original tomcat code suck, but ant doesn't!! 

Thanks James ;-)
Punky

--- James Duncan Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Apache Ant is now "The Award Winning Apache Ant". :)
> 
> Last night, Java World awarded Ant a "Best Community Developed Piece of
> Software Award". Awesome stuff. Diane Holt accepted the award and I was
> lucky enough to be in attendance to see it happen. There was a large amount
> of applause when the award was announced--more so than for most other
> awards.
> 
> All I can say is "Wow". The little tool that started out as a hack on an
> plane ride and pretty much gelled together on another plane ride sure has
> gone places. Much much much further than I originally thought.
> 
> A great way to end the first day of JavaOne.
> 
> |* x180:james duncan davidson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] *|
> |* http://www.x180.net/ !try; do() *|
> 
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Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

[Punky Tse]

>
> "Hey look at all those angry developers! They must really love Java! Cool!
> That will get us some fun press!"

> However, the way that you have been going about things doesn't help anyone
> or anything. Please try a new approach.
>
> :-)
>
> -jon
>

all +1.

But Kevin's attitude and courage should be highly appreciated, although I
believe it would not work...  But, at the end of the day, he should learn
(and earn) something.

Actually, I don't care what language the software was written by. All the
users' need is a decent, working software, but not programming language.
So, please get back to work, and write software that works.

If java was dead, use C# then.  Or C, C++ or perl.  Please do not fall in
love with any technology, its dangerous...  I must warn you.

(But currently I fall in love with my iBook...)

:-)

- Punky


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[OT] Fw: FreeBSD Foundation Announces Java License for FreeBSD

[Punky Tse]

FYI.  Finally, Java on FreeBSD becomes official!

Cheer and X'mas!
- Punky

- Original Message -
From: "The FreeBSD Foundation" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: FreeBSD Foundation Announces Java License for FreeBSD


> The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it has secured a
> license from Sun Microsystems to distribute a native FreeBSD version of
> both the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the Java Runtime Environment
(JRE).
> Thanks to the great efforts of the FreeBSD Java team, these should be
> available for inclusion with the upcoming release of FreeBSD 4.5 in
> January, 2002.
>
> The general availability of a distributable version of Java will
> benefit end users, commercial users, and developers who use FreeBSD.
> Java continues to grow in popularity and has become heavily used in
> server side web applications, one of FreeBSD's core areas of strength.
> With an officially licensed binary Java distribution, FreeBSD becomes
> an ideal platform for execution, development, and deployment of Java
> based solutions.
>
> This agreement would not have been possible without the efforts of Nate
> Williams.  Nate not only started the FreeBSD Java porting effort, but
> also brought Sun Microsystems and the Foundation together to negotiate a
> license.
>
> The FreeBSD Foundation, a 501(c)3 non-profit Colorado corporation, is
> dedicated to supporting the FreeBSD Project.  In addition to sponsoring
> the development and promotion of FreeBSD, as a recognized legal entity,
> the Foundation can enter into legal contracts and hold intellectual
> property in trust for the Project.  The Foundation hopes that today's
> license agreement announcement is only the first of many occasions where
> the Foundation's legal status allows FreeBSD to grow in ways that would
> not otherwise be possible.
>
> The FreeBSD Foundation relies solely on contributions from individuals
> and businesses to fund its activities.  In negotiating the JDK/JRE
> license, where both parties were in almost immediate agreement to
> the license terms, the Foundation still spent in excess of $3000 on
> legal fees.  Highly qualified and experienced legal counsel is the
> expensive yet necessary cost of protecting the best interests of
> the FreeBSD Project.  This particular activity was funded solely
> by contributions from the FreeBSD Foundation's board of directors.
> The Foundation will only be able to continue its work with further
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> are usually considered tax-deductible for those paying United States
> Federal income tax.  Any donations postmarked by December 31st.
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Re: Another Comment for Apache.org

[Punky Tse]

From: "Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> See what you got with your flame fest? Now Frans has started making jokes!

When seeing people flame each other, they act like a child.  But when they
are talking about things technically, they are very professional.

So I love this place.  Watching this is a lot of fun.. ;-)

Punky






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Re: Comment for Apache.org

[Punky Tse]

- Original Message -
From: "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> lloyd wrote:
>
> >>Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some
logical
> >>
> >
> > Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
> > could get through one e-mail exchange without being an asshole.
>
>
> Not again.
>
> People, even if you don't like Jon, can we just let this one go please?
> I don't want to see YAFF (Yet Another Flame Fest) on netiquette.
>
>

Never mind, if people want to flame with jon, just go for it.  But at the
end of the day, they will learn *a lot* ;-)

I'd seen this before, in jserv, tomcat-dev and now general list, people had
flamed with jon and still stayed in the list is now getting more mature(and
so does jon), and still willing to contribute to the community with their
technical excellence.

I got this impression is that a few months ago, while jon was on a flame
with another guy, one contributor/committer humorously stated jon was "still
a pain in the *ss".  That contributor/committer had a endless flame with jon
before (may be almost a year before?).   But at that moment, I felt that the
two guys seems to have certain respect with each other  ;-)

And I would say, seeing a true story like this, it was a great joy.

Punky







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Re: What is Jakarta?

[Punky Tse]

>
> My mistake, although stating that you have a database
> connection pool component does not imply that it is
> applicable outside of Turbine.
>

Hey man, Coccon 1.8 uses Turbine's connection poll. The package name is
turbine-pool.jar.  Just extract the jar from the distribution and use it.
And here is the documentation:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/connection-pool.html

Regards,
Punky


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