Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Quoting Christopher Lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 You're not saying that the boilerplate text should appear as comment in 
 every generated HTML document, are you?
 

Yes, I am.  For the same reason that it's in every Java file.


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 Chris

Craig


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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread Christopher Lenz
Am 02.03.2004 um 03:06 schrieb Craig R. McClanahan:
Quoting Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:02 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:
i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out
there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be
inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good 
question
to raise on community...
Go ahead. I suspect it that we should modify site.vsl
in either case. :-)
If we decide to modify all the xml files in /xdocs/,
appending link rel=license 
href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/
line would be more practical ... under /document/properties/ element.
(generated htmls should have meta tag, link tag or something 
equivalent)
The instructions at the very end of
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
describe *exactly* what to do to documentation files, and adding a 
link in the
manner you described is the wrong answer.
The discussion was about including a link to the license in the 
generated HTML documents. That is totally independent of whether the 
boilerplate text is included as XML comment in the xdoc sources IMHO, 
which should be done anyway.

You're not saying that the boilerplate text should appear as comment in 
every generated HTML document, are you?

Cheers,
Chris
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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2 Mar 2004, at 02:06, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:

Quoting Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:02 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:
i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out
there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be
inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good 
question
to raise on community...
Go ahead. I suspect it that we should modify site.vsl
in either case. :-)
If we decide to modify all the xml files in /xdocs/,
appending link rel=license 
href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/
line would be more practical ... under /document/properties/ element.
(generated htmls should have meta tag, link tag or something 
equivalent)

The instructions at the very end of
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
describe *exactly* what to do to documentation files, and adding a 
link in the
manner you described is the wrong answer.

Instead, you should enclose the same boilerplate text at the top of 
each such
document that is included at the top of Java sources, enclosed in the
appropriate comment characters for your format (i.e. for XML, surround 
by
!--. and --, for properties files, prefix by #, and so on).
the documentation source files are pretty clear. IMHO the generated 
stuff is best done by altering the .vsl template. (i tried tricks with 
the source to get the license into the generated document but anakia 
dies.)

the .vsl template should definitely be altered to include the 
boilerplate (as a comment) but i think that it'd be good to think about 
including a meta and/or link tags as well.

- robert

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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:08:42 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:

 the .vsl template should definitely be altered to include the 
 boilerplate (as a comment) but i think that it'd be good to think about 
 including a meta and/or link tags as well.

I performed a slight change into .vsl and committed a little
while ago. (!-- -- style)
site module (for www.apache.org) as well.

For the time being, I do not include additional meta and/or
link tags in generated html files. If any ASF members put
them into htmls under site module, I'll follow them - precedent.

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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2 Mar 2004, at 20:21, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:08:42 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:
the .vsl template should definitely be altered to include the
boilerplate (as a comment) but i think that it'd be good to think 
about
including a meta and/or link tags as well.
I performed a slight change into .vsl and committed a little
while ago. (!-- -- style)
site module (for www.apache.org) as well.
missed that change 8-)

looks to me like that the jakarta website is now AL2 compliant :)

thanks for the hard work tetsuya.

- robert

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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:29:52 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:

 looks to me like that the jakarta website is now AL2 compliant :)

:-) -- Law-abiding nice citizens, Jakartaens.

 thanks for the hard work tetsuya.

I do also thank you, for the nice question upon the
licensing issue. This is an issue of critical importance
which I have been giving a heed/attention to.

--

Anyway, i also performed a slight change to all the XML files
in site module, too (except those in /foundation/ dir).
-- HTML files, generated files, as well.
Perhaps things go well. (do hope)

Cheers,

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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Might it be possible for us to add links to
http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE
from each generated htmls?? I think this would be enough.
Use META tag.
(e.g. meta name=license value=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/)
Perhaps this can be easily done by editing /xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl

What would you say?

-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:57:56 +
(Subject: questions license for site documents)
robert burrell donkin wrote:

 the generated html does not contain an explicit license just a 
 copyright. am i right in thinking that now it would be better to 
 publish them under the apache license 2?
 
 also, am i right in thinking that all the source documentation should 
 have license notices added?
 
 - robert


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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread Christopher Lenz
Am 01.03.2004 um 12:53 schrieb Tetsuya Kitahata:
Use META tag.
(e.g. meta name=license value=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/)
Perhaps this can be easily done by editing /xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl
What would you say?
If anything, that should be:

  link rel=license href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE;

(See http://tantek.com/log/2004/02.html#d25t1805)

Cheers,
Chris
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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out 
there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be 
inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good question 
to raise on community...

- robert

On 1 Mar 2004, at 17:25, Christopher Lenz wrote:

Am 01.03.2004 um 12:53 schrieb Tetsuya Kitahata:
Use META tag.
(e.g. meta name=license 
value=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/)
Perhaps this can be easily done by editing /xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl

What would you say?
If anything, that should be:

  link rel=license href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE;

(See http://tantek.com/log/2004/02.html#d25t1805)

Cheers,
Chris
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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:02 +
robert burrell donkin wrote:

 i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out 
 there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be 
 inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good question 
 to raise on community...

Go ahead. I suspect it that we should modify site.vsl
in either case. :-)

If we decide to modify all the xml files in /xdocs/,
appending link rel=license href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/
line would be more practical ... under /document/properties/ element.
(generated htmls should have meta tag, link tag or something equivalent)

-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 - robert
 
 On 1 Mar 2004, at 17:25, Christopher Lenz wrote:
 
  Am 01.03.2004 um 12:53 schrieb Tetsuya Kitahata:
  Use META tag.
  (e.g. meta name=license 
  value=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/)
  Perhaps this can be easily done by editing /xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl
 
  What would you say?
 
  If anything, that should be:
 
link rel=license href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE;
 
  (See http://tantek.com/log/2004/02.html#d25t1805)
 
  Cheers,
  Chris
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  /=/ cmlenz at gmx.de

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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Quoting Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:02 +
 robert burrell donkin wrote:
 
  i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out 
  there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be 
  inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good question 
  to raise on community...
 
 Go ahead. I suspect it that we should modify site.vsl
 in either case. :-)
 
 If we decide to modify all the xml files in /xdocs/,
 appending link rel=license href=http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE/
 line would be more practical ... under /document/properties/ element.
 (generated htmls should have meta tag, link tag or something equivalent)
 

The instructions at the very end of
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
describe *exactly* what to do to documentation files, and adding a link in the
manner you described is the wrong answer.

Instead, you should enclose the same boilerplate text at the top of each such
document that is included at the top of Java sources, enclosed in the
appropriate comment characters for your format (i.e. for XML, surround by
!--. and --, for properties files, prefix by #, and so on).

 -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Craig McClanahan



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Re: questions license for site documents

2004-02-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Feb 29, 2004, at 5:57 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

the generated html does not contain an explicit license just a 
copyright. am i right in thinking that now it would be better to 
publish them under the apache license 2?

also, am i right in thinking that all the source documentation should 
have license notices added?
Might as well make it explicit

- robert

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