Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-20 Thread John Kaputin
Dims,
The Woden M5 vote returned only 1 binding +1 vote from an Incubator PMC
member ... you.

It has +1 votes from Jeremy Hughes and Tom Jordahl who are both WS PMC
members. Are these binding for M5 or does Woden require binding votes from
Incubator PMC members only. If so I'll post again for an Incubator vote.

John Kaputin



   
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Dear Release Managers,

[Sorry for the cross post!]

Please don't make a release unless there are 3 binding votes from pmc
members. We need it for legal purposes.

There is one more quirk about what we actually vote on. HTTPD pmc
votes on a svn tag and then the release managers cut binaries
corresponding to that tag. We tend to vote on a feature list and then
release managers make it happen.Again this is also for legal purposes
to make sure that there is proper oversight on what gets into a
release.  I am still finding out how other projects do it. Your
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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas

please ping paul and sanjiva and ask them to vote. they are on incubator pmc.

thx,
dims

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Dims,
The Woden M5 vote returned only 1 binding +1 vote from an Incubator PMC
member ... you.

It has +1 votes from Jeremy Hughes and Tom Jordahl who are both WS PMC
members. Are these binding for M5 or does Woden require binding votes from
Incubator PMC members only. If so I'll post again for an Incubator vote.

John Kaputin




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Dear Release Managers,

[Sorry for the cross post!]

Please don't make a release unless there are 3 binding votes from pmc
members. We need it for legal purposes.

There is one more quirk about what we actually vote on. HTTPD pmc
votes on a svn tag and then the release managers cut binaries
corresponding to that tag. We tend to vote on a feature list and then
release managers make it happen.Again this is also for legal purposes
to make sure that there is proper oversight on what gets into a
release.  I am still finding out how other projects do it. Your
suggestions are welcome! Please post only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussion
to ensure maximum participation.

thanks,
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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-02 Thread Henri Yandell

On 6/1/06, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/2/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys what's in commons-util? That seems like a redundant naming
 strategy .. commons is by definition utility stuff so what's a utility
 within commons??

It's defined as a set of utilities for XML handling, each of which
which are too small for a separate project. Included are xs:dateTime
parses and formatters, serializers, classes for namespace handling,
and stuff like that. Give me a better name, although I wouldn't be too
happy to change it after the project is around for 1 year. (And has
always been since the foundation of the ws-commons.)


There was a Jakarta Commons Utils many eons ago, but we threw the name
out and split it up into Lang, IO, Codec and others. They grew. :)

Hen

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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-02 Thread Jochen Wiedmann

On 6/2/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There was a Jakarta Commons Utils many eons ago, but we threw the name
out and split it up into Lang, IO, Codec and others. They grew. :)


I have no problem with splitting them when I find *that* there is
something growing. Within the last year, I didn't have that
impression.


Jochen

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ws-commons Was: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-02 Thread Henri Yandell

On 6/1/06, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/2/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There was a Jakarta Commons Utils many eons ago, but we threw the name
 out and split it up into Lang, IO, Codec and others. They grew. :)

I have no problem with splitting them when I find *that* there is
something growing. Within the last year, I didn't have that
impression.


Yeah, there was also [http] and [servlet] which didn't grow and were
lost in the ether of the sandbox.

For Jakarta, the split had an easy metaphor in that each new component
was (at first) a match for a J2SE package. I don't know if WS has
anything of that sort. Things did explode activity-wise after Util was
split up, but I'm not wanting to imply that that would happen again.

I've only just joined the list, thought I'd hang out here a bit. Does
ws-commons have its own mailng list, or does it do its dev stuff here?
The site doesn't seem to show the utils component.

Hen

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Re: ws-commons Was: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Hen,

commons-dev@ws.apache.org

-- dims

On 6/2/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/1/06, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/2/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There was a Jakarta Commons Utils many eons ago, but we threw the name
  out and split it up into Lang, IO, Codec and others. They grew. :)

 I have no problem with splitting them when I find *that* there is
 something growing. Within the last year, I didn't have that
 impression.

Yeah, there was also [http] and [servlet] which didn't grow and were
lost in the ether of the sandbox.

For Jakarta, the split had an easy metaphor in that each new component
was (at first) a match for a J2SE package. I don't know if WS has
anything of that sort. Things did explode activity-wise after Util was
split up, but I'm not wanting to imply that that would happen again.

I've only just joined the list, thought I'd hang out here a bit. Does
ws-commons have its own mailng list, or does it do its dev stuff here?
The site doesn't seem to show the utils component.

Hen

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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann

Hi, Dims,

Pleading guilty for ws-commons-util 1.0 and ws-commons-java5. Should I run
the votes now?

Jochen

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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-01 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Please bump up the version # slightly and let's cut a new release.

thanks,
dims

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Hi, Dims,

Pleading guilty for ws-commons-util 1.0 and ws-commons-java5. Should I run
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Jochen

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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-01 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Guys what's in commons-util? That seems like a redundant naming
strategy .. commons is by definition utility stuff so what's a utility
within commons??

Sanjiva.

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 Hi, Dims,
 
 Pleading guilty for ws-commons-util 1.0 and ws-commons-java5. Should I run
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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-06-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann

On 6/2/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Guys what's in commons-util? That seems like a redundant naming
strategy .. commons is by definition utility stuff so what's a utility
within commons??


It's defined as a set of utilities for XML handling, each of which
which are too small for a separate project. Included are xs:dateTime
parses and formatters, serializers, classes for namespace handling,
and stuff like that. Give me a better name, although I wouldn't be too
happy to change it after the project is around for 1 year. (And has
always been since the foundation of the ws-commons.)


Jochen

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[ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-05-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Dear Release Managers,

[Sorry for the cross post!]

Please don't make a release unless there are 3 binding votes from pmc
members. We need it for legal purposes.

There is one more quirk about what we actually vote on. HTTPD pmc
votes on a svn tag and then the release managers cut binaries
corresponding to that tag. We tend to vote on a feature list and then
release managers make it happen.Again this is also for legal purposes
to make sure that there is proper oversight on what gets into a
release.  I am still finding out how other projects do it. Your
suggestions are welcome! Please post only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussion
to ensure maximum participation.

thanks,
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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-05-31 Thread Dan Diephouse

Hi Dims,
Thanks for the reminder. Are there any releases that need to take steps 
to correct this? 

Is there a list of WS PMC members somewhere? I know that you always do 
+1 (binding), but I don't think everyone always does this.


Regarding the release process I have tended to call a vote, tag, publish 
a release, vet it with people, then announce if everyone OKs. If we 
require a tag wouldn't that require two votes? One to say - do you want 
to do a release? And then another to say how about this tag?


Cheers,
- Dan

Davanum Srinivas wrote:


Dear Release Managers,

[Sorry for the cross post!]

Please don't make a release unless there are 3 binding votes from pmc
members. We need it for legal purposes.

There is one more quirk about what we actually vote on. HTTPD pmc
votes on a svn tag and then the release managers cut binaries
corresponding to that tag. We tend to vote on a feature list and then
release managers make it happen.Again this is also for legal purposes
to make sure that there is proper oversight on what gets into a
release.  I am still finding out how other projects do it. Your
suggestions are welcome! Please post only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussion
to ensure maximum participation.

thanks,
dims




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Re: [ATTN: Release Managers] 3 binding +1's for a Release from PMC folks

2006-05-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas

It's on our front page :)
http://ws.apache.org/

That's the problem. i want to reduce the # of votes. i think typically
in httpd pmc the release manager works evern w/o the first vote. so
technically there is only one vote.

-- dims

On 5/31/06, Dan Diephouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Dims,
Thanks for the reminder. Are there any releases that need to take steps
to correct this?

Is there a list of WS PMC members somewhere? I know that you always do
+1 (binding), but I don't think everyone always does this.

Regarding the release process I have tended to call a vote, tag, publish
a release, vet it with people, then announce if everyone OKs. If we
require a tag wouldn't that require two votes? One to say - do you want
to do a release? And then another to say how about this tag?

Cheers,
- Dan

Davanum Srinivas wrote:

 Dear Release Managers,

 [Sorry for the cross post!]

 Please don't make a release unless there are 3 binding votes from pmc
 members. We need it for legal purposes.

 There is one more quirk about what we actually vote on. HTTPD pmc
 votes on a svn tag and then the release managers cut binaries
 corresponding to that tag. We tend to vote on a feature list and then
 release managers make it happen.Again this is also for legal purposes
 to make sure that there is proper oversight on what gets into a
 release.  I am still finding out how other projects do it. Your
 suggestions are welcome! Please post only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussion
 to ensure maximum participation.

 thanks,
 dims



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