Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: udev/baselayout mess?
Duncan: Thanks for the story behind the base layout packages and the plans for the upgrade. -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399
[gentoo-amd64] frustrated - configure mime types for browser
I have searched the web and failed. I hate to bother the group but I know the answer is here. Thanks in advance. My problem is how to configure galeon and firefox to use the right helper applications on my Gentoo computers. For a long time most helper applications, such as xpdf for PDF files, just worked. But during the past few months, with the typical gentoo updates, I have lost the ability to get the right application chosen for the different mime types. It seems that over time the Linux desktop environment is getting more complicated than a Windows computer and it seems like a sad state to me. Either that, or I am missing some simple piece of information. I have two desktops, both amd64. One wants to run gimp for each PDF while the other runs adobe. I would like to change them both to use xpdf or at least change the one from Gimp to adobe. If anyone can give me a few pointers, I would appreciate it. Thanks, -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Alsa Config keeps disappearing
I have to unplug my web cam and microphone each time I reboot my system otherwise my mythtv system is messed up. I am sure there is a way to configure udev to help keep them straight but I have not looked into it. Does anyone know how to configure a system so I can control which device goes to each application? After reading some about the alsa/pulseaudio/jack/oss set of sound software I am amazed it works as good as it does. Thanks, -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, sean wrote: David Fellows wrote: ls -l /dev/snd total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 4 2009-07-01 07:35 controlC0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 8 2009-07-01 07:35 controlC1 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 3 2009-07-01 07:35 pcmC0D0c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 7 2009-07-01 07:35 pcmC1D0c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-07-01 07:35 pcmC1D0p crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 5 2009-07-01 07:35 pcmC1D1c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 9 2009-07-01 07:35 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 2 2009-07-01 07:35 timer The above shows that after boot alsa thinks it has 2 sound cards. Do you actually have two? No, one card that is built into the board. After alsa thinks it has only one card. Furthermore, it appears that it is the second of your 2 cards. I do have a usb logitech webcam with built in mic. Maybe it is somehow being confused as a soundcard? I will also check out the clock settings. Right now I am tired and heading for sleep. Thanks Dave, Duncan, and all else who replied. I will do some checking and let you know.
[gentoo-amd64] howto find overlay with a package
What is the best way to search all the overlays looking for one that may support a utility not in the primary portage tree? What I would like is a tool like eix but that uses a list of non-installed overlays that it could search. Also, does anyone have recommendations for finding overlays not in the official list from layman -L ? Thanks for any suggestions. -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399
[gentoo-amd64] How do I switch to a window manager?
Can somebody answer a question, related to the favorite WM question, how do I change to an alternative window manager? I normally run xdm and update my .xinitrc or .xsession file to do this but I feel that there should be a better way. How do you do it? Thanks, -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399
Re: [gentoo-amd64] localhost??
use lsof, as root, to see if cups is actually listening on any port. here is part of my cups lsof output: cupsd 2605 root0u 0,70 15 anon_inode cupsd 2605 root1u IPv41636008 0t0TCP dell.mcis.washington.edu:ipp (LISTEN) cupsd 2605 root2u REG3,440863 937675 /var/log/cups/error_log cupsd 2605 root3u IPv61636009 0t0TCP localhost:ipp (LISTEN) cupsd 2605 root4u unix 0xdbfaa740 0t01636010 /var/run/cups/cups.sock cupsd 2605 root5u IPv41636012 0t0UDP *:ipp cupsd 2605 root6r FIFO0,6 0t01636013 pipe cupsd 2605 root7w FIFO0,6 0t01636013 pipe cupsd 2605 root8u REG3,4 3517 937976 /var/log/cups/page_log cupsd 2605 root9u REG3,497379 937950 /var/log/cups/access_log cupsd 2605 root 10u unix 0xdbfaa580 0t01636069 socket -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Paul Stear wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost localhost. if I put https://localhost:631; into konqueror I get a message 404 Not Found My etc/hosts is set to 127.0.0.1 PC.WORK PC localhost Any ideas? Thanks for any help Paul
Re: [gentoo-amd64] [100% OFF TOPIC] Where does one learn about running vmware under Gentoo?
I would suggest VirtualBox. It just installed easily for me. I am running it on my system with stable gentoo-sources kernel. I just never had as much success with VMWare. Good luck, -- Steve Herberher...@thing.comwork: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: I've wanted to ask this for a while. I've never seen vmware running. I'm curious about running a few Windows apps on my AMD64 machine, if possible. Does stuff like sound work? I don't need any special hardware. (I think) Just disk, graphics and network. How well does this work? vmware seems to have a good reputation. What are the Open Source alternatives? If someone has a good pointer to something that walks a newbie through setting this up and running Win XP then that would be cool. I have XP licenses if necessary. Thanks, Mark
[gentoo-amd64] another boot order question
The short question: how can you find the disk names from the command line shell in a kernel that could not fully boot when it could not find it's real root partition?. I have had my share of problems with grub, the kernel, and getting the right name for the names for a mixture of IDE and SATA disk drives. Using the 2.6.18-r6 kernel everything works as expected. I build all my kernels with genkernel. Whenever I try to boot a newer kernel they all fail fails when the kernel tries to pivot from the ram disk to the real root disk. This is what I need help with. When the kernel can't find the root partition you are dropped into an interactive prompt where you can either specify the right root disk or the option to enter a shell. Is there a way to figure out what how the new kernel sees the disk drives so I know what to put in the grub entry for the real root? I have not been able to find a tool in the initial ramdisk set of tools that will help me identify the disk layout. All I want is the output from an fdisk -l command, but maybe there is another way. Here are two of my grub entries. The 2.6.16 ones works the the other does not: title Gentoo 2.6.18-gentoo-r6 root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=8192 doevms2 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 title Gentoo 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=8192 doevms2 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.22-gentoo-r5 And here is the disk layout where the first three partitions are boot, swap, and root: # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 17 136521 83 Linux /dev/sda2 18 267 2008125 82 Linux swap /dev/sda3 26827572925 83 Linux /dev/sda42758 19457 1341427505 Extended /dev/sda5275852472893+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6524877372893+ 83 Linux /dev/sda77738 102272893+ 83 Linux /dev/sda8 10228 127172893+ 83 Linux /dev/sda9 12718 152072893+ 83 Linux /dev/sda10 15208 1945734138093+ 83 Linux It seems that newer kernels use different names or something but I can't tell what the names are because I can't run one of the newer kernels. I hate this sort of problem. I have started to look at ide emulation versus the native sata drivers but I still have to guess about the device names. And I just realized that on one of my computers with this problem I only have a single disk so why do I ever have this problem on that system? Thanks for any suggestions. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] test
test Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] test
I was testing a local mailman list, called gentoo, on my mail server. Unfortunately, I had an alias in pine for gentoo that was pointed to this list. I have removed that alias. Thanks for the comments. All have passed the test. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Thu, 24 May 2007, Isidore Ducasse wrote: le Thu, 24 May 2007 07:48:14 -0500 Mike Bonar [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ?crit: Okay, I'm testing...now what? Good question. What are you actually testing? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: unmerging slotted group packages
Duncan: Yet another great document about keeping a Gentoo system up to date. I looked at the Gentoo Wiki site to see if they had anything similar and the closest was the HOWTO Maintain Gentoo-Best_Practices article: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_%22Best_Practices%22 It would be nice if some of your material could be added to it because your comments are good help for all Gentoo people.. Thank you, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] what causes this?
configure: error: There is something wrong. Please check config.log for more information. !!! ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1564: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 173: Called src_compile_normal php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 323: Called php5_1-sapi_src_compile php5_1-sapi.eclass, line 575: Called die !!! configure failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. Some of my major packages get this error and I wonder what causes it? I am not interested in a solution for php, but a guideline to help me fix any package with this problem. Thanks, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] boinc
I hope something gets worked out. I also had boinc/setiathome running on my amd64 system but it broke when seti released a new version of their software. The portage versions have not kept up with seti and I tried to create a local overlay to try new versions but ended up with the unsupported version problem. I just don't understand what needs to be changed to get it to work again. I wish someone with more understanding could get gentoo to support amd64. (Yes, there is probably a fix buried somewhere in the forums or in a bug report, but they are still work around for the fact that emerge setiathome fails to create a viable system on amd64.) Good luck. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Dieter Ries wrote: hi, i had boinc 5.2.something running on my gentoo machine here for a long time, now i got my now dualcore, and this version didnt really support it well, so i decided to emerge a newer version, but now i cant get work because 64bit is notsuppported there. the first installation i had was made from the official binary, but i thinnnk there must be a way to do this in gentoo style. is there any? cu Dieter -- Frank Castle is dead! Call me 'The PUNISHER'! -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia masking help
Thanks to all on the list. This email had the exact solution I needed. [rant-on] This is the sort of information I wish I could have found in the forums. I wonder how many other people wasted their time getting the right solution. The X release people, who know about the problem, could have averted many problems by simply documenting this. [rant-off] Thank you Richard, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Richard Fish wrote: On 7/25/06, Steve Herber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My nvidia based graphics system was working great until the recent X upgrade. During one of my recent package upgrades I ran afoul of the abi problem. And now I can't hit the right combination of masks and package removals to get back to my working state. Could someone tell me which packages I need to mask to restore the last working nvidia based X package set? Here is what I have in /etc/portage/package.mask for this problem: # breaks ABI =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 =x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.1.2 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.2-r1 =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1 =x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-1.2.1 =x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-1.2.0 =x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.3.0 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1 HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: wanted: script to build ebuilds
/usr/portage/skel.ebuild - Thanks for the pointer. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Richard Fish wrote: On 4/29/06, Steve Herber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This simply couldn't be automated in a sane manner. There's too much Sane? A crude script that can create an ebuild with just the minimum fields may not work very often, but if it works for the package YOU want, then you have just saved YOUR time. If it partially works, then you are that much closer to testing the package. That extra time could then be used to improve the ebuild and maybe get it working. That seems pretty sane to me. What would be the difference between having a script to create an ebuild, vs a simple template ebuild to start from? The /usr/portage/skel.ebuild is all of 17 lines when you ignore comments and blank lines. And most of that are package settings for dependancies and source locations and the like. Any script that was created would have to prompt you for all of that stuff, so running the script would be just as 'difficult' as copying and modifying the template. -Richard -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: wanted: script to build ebuilds
People have responded in thoughtful ways but it seems to me that I may not have been clear in explaining my intent. I will respond in-line below to this particular post because it included so much material. I want to thank everyone who has replied to my request. The comments have helped me visualize some simple scripts that I can write to start testing. I think that I can safely conclude that the sort of script I envision does not exist yet. Cheers! Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Duncan wrote: [GRR!! Insane quote ordering for proper contextual replies rearranged to conventional.] Dice R. Random posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:43:44 -0700: On 4/28/06, Steve Herber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Portage is great but... it depends upon a person to create a new ebuild when a new version is released. There are two times when I would like a script to create an ebuild automatically. I wonder if anyone has such a script or if someone is working on such a script. Often a new software release is available from the home site but portage has not been updated. I would like a script that would: check the source repository for a package find the latest version if the repository has a newer version create an overlay with an ebuild for the new version try to build the new package This would be relatively easy to automate, due to the standard bump procedure below. It wouldn't always work, and the risk for even trying it would be entirely the user's, because in some cases such a procedure WOULD break the system, due to changes between versions that weren't accounted for by the automated process, but it would be relatively easy to write a script that would work for most minor bumps anyway, a reasonable percentage of the time, risky tho it would indeed be to just blindly run it. I assume that installing a package based on an automatically created ebuild may break a system. But how else can you determine that a new software package release is good on not? You need to try it. I just want a script that lowers the bar for the person that is willing to try. Other times I will hear about a new software package and I want to try it out. I would like a script that would take a URL for the home site as an argument and then would operate like the script above. This simply couldn't be automated in a sane manner. There's too much Sane? A crude script that can create an ebuild with just the minimum fields may not work very often, but if it works for the package YOU want, then you have just saved YOUR time. If it partially works, then you are that much closer to testing the package. That extra time could then be used to improve the ebuild and maybe get it working. That seems pretty sane to me. variability in the way various things build, and too much risk in simply assuming the normal otherwise automatable procedure will work, and will not do something strange enough that it could be harmful to a working system. An initial build for an application isn't a simple matter. One I disagree. Many applications need very simple ebuilds. The feature I love about portage is that if you do end up putting files in less than optimum places, you can just remove the package and update the ebuild to use better locations. I wish /usr/portage were split into two parts. One for the core packages that you need when Gentoo is used as your operating system and another set for applications. I expect this issue has been discussed by the portage on Mac OS X people but I have not looked at their solution yet. The reason I mention this is that I would generally be interested in automatically creating ebuilds for the application set and would tend to leave the core OS side alone to avoid the sort of catastrophic events that you point out could happen. must decide where things should go and supply the appropriate parameters to have it install there. One must check that the licensing is suitable for Gentoo, and further, whether Gentoo can mirror the sources or whether I am not suggesting Gentoo ever use an automated systems to put new software into the official portage tree. I would always want a person to be involved for the many reasons you mention here. That does not stop us from having a system that jump starts the ebuild creation process. they have to be fetched directly from upstream due to licencing, possibly manually, if the licensing is strict enough. One must verify the setup/unpack/configure/compile/install/qmerge steps and create The script I am looking
[gentoo-amd64] wanted: script to build ebuilds
Portage is great but... it depends upon a person to create a new ebuild when a new version is released. There are two times when I would like a script to create an ebuild automatically. I wonder if anyone has such a script or if someone is working on such a script. Often a new software release is available from the home site but portage has not been updated. I would like a script that would: check the source repository for a package find the latest version if the repository has a newer version create an overlay with an ebuild for the new version try to build the new package Other times I will hear about a new software package and I want to try it out. I would like a script that would take a URL for the home site as an argument and then would operate like the script above. If such scripts were available, it would be much easier to check out new software releases. I could imagine a system that would scan listings from freshmeat or other non-Gentoo site, build the ebuild and try the package. In the simplest case you would get a go/no-go answer. For the packages that download and build, you could try it out. If it failed you could ignore it or try to figure out the problem. This is not an AMD64 problem, but I know the people on this list are always pushing the Gentoo limits. So, thank you for your suggestions. Thanks, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] Re: ntpd configuration question
When I was re-configuring my ntp system one day I went to the ntp home page: http://www.ntp.org/ and found their very cool, Gentoo like, user contributed, ntp server pool: http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers You might want to put your server into the public pool.ntp.org time server pool. This is a great project. They also list stratum one and two servers. Please note that you need to ask permission or register with many of the system owners if you want to use them. Cheers, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] kernel config file for A8N-SLI Premium
I have a nice new A8N-SLI Premium system and I have two problems with it. The second problem I have is that ntpd fails with the error: Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 17:17:02 PST 2006 (1) Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: precision = 1.000 usec Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123 Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface eth1, 192.168.168.6#123 Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: kernel time sync status 0040 I had used the /etc/ntp.conf file from my working amd64 system so I was surprised by this. So I decided to work on my first problem which is that I can not build a bootable genkernel image on the new system. I have started to wonder if some recent version of genkernel or my new 2006.0 profile has caused the problem. In short, if I boot a genkernel image it always fails when it tries to swap to the /newroot mount point. Most recently this is what happens with linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r7. Actually, the genkernel images do not always fail. I have one linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 image that works perfectly. But any attempt to move the -r5 config file to -r7 always fails. The same if I use the genkernel smp config file. So the actual request is this: Can someone send me a copy of their kernel .config file, or /etc/kernel/?? file, from a system using the A8N-SLI Premium motherboard? I would appreciate such a config file. I would not object to any suggestions as to why the recent genkernel images fail to find the real root disk image, or any hints as to why I can't get ntpd to work. Thank you, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kernel config file for A8N-SLI Premium
Thanks Duncan. I am doing all the things you mentioned. But because you spent some time to help me I realized I should do a bit more work. I checked bugzilla and discovered this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105978 Commenting out /etc/conf.d/ntpd.conf -u ntp:ntp and now it works. Can't wait for that bug to get fixed. Now if I could just get a new kernel to boot. Thanks! Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Duncan wrote: Steve Herber posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:26:10 -0800: I have a nice new A8N-SLI Premium system and I have two problems with it. The second problem I have is that ntpd fails with the error: Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 23 17:17:02 PST 2006 (1) Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: precision = 1.000 usec Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123 Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: Listening on interface eth1, 192.168.168.6#123 Mar 13 08:41:54 fester ntpd[16778]: kernel time sync status 0040 A search of the ntp documentation (in /usr/doc/ntp-ver/html/*) for sync status returns the error docs page. It refers to timex.h from the ntp sources tarball. You probably have that tarball in your portage distdir. A quick look here at the file... exerpted: /* * Status codes (timex.status) */ [snip] #define STA_INS 0x0010 /* insert leap (rw) */ #define STA_DEL 0x0020 /* delete leap (rw) */ #define STA_UNSYNC 0x0040 /* clock unsynchronized (rw) */ #define STA_FREQHOLD0x0080 /* hold frequency (rw) */ So... that would appear to simply say status unsynchronized. Not a problem as that's the way it's supposed to start. In fact, I figured that's what it meant, as mine always starts that way, but the status changes, later. Thus, either ntpd isn't failing after all, but still running and will eventually sync, or if it's failing, the log as posted doesn't reveal why. A couple suggestions. 1: Check your timezone info. If you have your clock set to local time but the timezone is set to UTC, assuming you aren't /at/ UTC local time, you'll be off by several hours and ntpd will normally refuse to touch the clock untl you set it to something closer to what ntpd can grok. 2: It's always best to run ntp-client as well as ntpd. The init ordering will order ntp-client before ntpd if they are both in the same initlevel, which is what you want. ntp-client does a quick-check and approximate sync, stepping the clock as necessary to get it /close/ to the right time. It is, however, a one-shot deal. ntpd then takes over and makes fine adjustments as necessary to sync the clock more closely, then tracks it to ensure it stays synced. By running ntp-client first, you ensure the clock is close enough to correct that ntpd shouldn't protest. It will still start as status 0040, but will sync up, usually within 15 minutes or so. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] hal, dbus and ivman
There are a lots of bugs posted about this problem. This one describes your problem: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120138 The ivman ebuild hard codes hal-0.4.8 which forces the old api in dbus-023.4. Next time you try to update, the hal-0.5.5.1.r3 and dbus-0.60-r3 versions are detected as newer. The dbus api has changed with the newest dbus and ivman needs the old version of the api. But if you run revdep-rebuild to fix this you get upgraded to qt version 4 then you have this problem: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116582 Which is where my system fails. It seems to be a qt problem with int, long, long long definitions not matching the amd64 standard which is why we are seeing the problem. There is a patch on the qt site but I haven't tried to apply it yet. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Clemente Aguiar wrote: A few weeks ago, with the installation of kde, I emerged hal, dbus and ivan. I update the system regularly with: emerge -uD world Recently this command resulted in an updated hal and dbus. But now when I pretend to update it wants to downgrade these two packages again, and I found that the culprit is ivman. # emerge -uDp --tree world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] sys-apps/ivman-0.5_pre2 [ebuild UD] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.5.5.1-r3] [ebuild UD] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.60-r3] What can I do to solve this upgrade/downgrade problem? Clemente -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] NFS on freebsd
Could you document you setup and test procedure? I use NFS for most disk storage but have never tried to tune it much. Any performance suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, P.V.Anthony wrote: Hi, I am on the nfs stuff again. Still trying to get a better speed. Currently I am only getting 40Mb/sec. I am hoping for 80Mb/sec. I am using Gigabit ethernet. Anyway while I was googling, I came across some sites that were saying that freebsd is better for nfs. Has anyone experienced this? Please do comment. P.V.Anthony -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] What's up with portage?
As a specific example, the vim-spell package I use, not amd64 specific, no longer exists. It has been replaced by vim-spell-en and others but they are hard masked because they require a newer vim. I had seen notes somewhere that the vim-spell package was slated for removal. What packages had you noticed? Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Mark Haney wrote: I've noticed over the last couple of days that I'm seeing several packages without ebuilds when doing a world update. What's the beef? I've not seen anything on the Gentoo site or elsewhere that lets me know what's going on. Is anyone else seeing this? -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] firewall
I would recommend you use Shorewall for an easy way to configure and manage you iptables based linux firewall. The documentation is excellent. Plus, I like to have lunch with the author. shorewall.net Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, I have merged iptables. Will they start at boot and is there a link for configuring on Gentoo? Thanks. -- Dr Gavin Seddon School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences University of Manchester Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL, U.K. -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problems getting started
I always refer to the install handbook - I can't emphasize this too much. I also read the amd64 install notes. Because I have an extensive Unix/Linux background, I look at the alternate installation documentation. I often use Knoppix to build up a new computer based upon this information. If I have a problem, I review the install handbook again. Good luck, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/20/05, Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The root is /mnt/gentoo on /dev/hda3 I then did: tar -xvjpf /mnt/cdrom/stages/stage3-20050709-2005.1.tar.bz2 then tar -xvjf /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/portage-20050709.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr As I watched the blur flashing by on the monitor, about 2/3 of the way through the lines began to rap. When the process stopped and I could see what was happening; after each tar command it was stating cannot write no space left on device. This baffles me as 10 Gig should be plenty of space? It is, but did you do cd /mnt/gentoo before extracting the files? -Richard -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: initio seen, mt -f doesn't work
Besides lspci and lsusb, I like lshw. sys-apps/lshw From the man page: lshw is a small tool to extract detailed information on the hardware configuration of the machine. It can report exact memory configuration, firmware version, mainboard configuration, CPU version and speed, cache configuration, bus speed, etc. on DMI-capable x86 or IA-64 systems and on some PowerPC machines (PowerMac G4 is known to work). It currently supports DMI (x86 and IA-64 only), OpenFirmware device tree (PowerPC only), PCI/AGP, CPUID (x86), IDE/ATA/ATAPI, PCMCIA (only tested on x86), SCSI and USB. How much am I supposed to trim from the quoted article??? Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Duncan wrote: Gavin Seddon posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:50:56 +: Is there a way of determining the board type, other than opening the box and removing the card. I don't have it's original box. Thanks. On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 07:39 -0600, Brett Johnson wrote: What model initio board do you have? There are two different initio drivers, and the one called initio is for the 9100 series chipset. It's possible loading the wrong chipset could lock up the pc, or at least the console. When the console locks up, I like to go to a different terminal (pc) and see if I can ping the frozen pc. If so, then try to ssh in (assuming ssh is running) and see if I can shut it down remotely. To answer your question, try lspci (ls for the PCI bus). If the output isn't verbose enough to give you the detail you need, try lspci -v (for verbose). It's a /very/ handy program to keep in your virtual toolbox, particularly if you don't fancy opening up your box all the time to read stuff off of the various chips and cards, let alone that even doing that wouldn't directly give you the same level of detail that lspci -v does. lspci is part of pciutils, in case you don't already have it merged, but you likely do, at least if you have either alsa-utils or hotplug merged. FWIW, there's also a parallel lsusb, part of (no surprise) usbutils. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Warning bash-3.1 serious issue starting init scripts bug #115142
I ran into the same problem but I could get a root prompt. I found that a number of /etc/init.d/scripts and some of the portage support scripts contained lines like this: local -a umods=() or something like that. It seems the new 3.1 bash does not like the =() syntax. I just removed the =() from the ones I found causing reboot problems, at least until I got my network link back. Then I masked out the new version and reverted to the previous version. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Joerg Gollnick wrote: I had a serious issue in bash-3.1 which was documented in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115142. I had no possiblity to get a network connection, be warned. At the moment it seems that package.mask is updated a few minutes ago on the mirror. Best regard Joerg -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Multiple X with multiple Keyboards
I have run multiple X servers on a single computer. I set one up for my wife and another for me. They were on the same monitor and we used the normal control-alt-f7 and f8 to switch between them. You configure such a system by adding an extra line to the xdm-config file. A hint about this is found in the middle of this page: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDM-Xterm/config.htm I am sure there are other pages that expand upon this idea. But this does not do what you want. I think you need to look into the startx script and create a modified one that points to a second xorg.conf file that specifies the keyboard, mousse, monitor combination that you need so that X only uses that hardware. You will probably need to figure out how to, in a sense, defeat the plug and play features of the more recent X servers. In addition, there is a project, somewhere, to configure a single computer to support multiple keyboards, videos, and mice, as a way to share the computer among many concurrent users. I would spend some time looking for that project. It might do exactly what you want. Good luck, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Duncan wrote: Christian Aistleitner posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:27:58 +0100: I have several mice, keyboards, and monitors/graphic cards attached to my gentoo ~amd64 machine at once. I created a server layout using all mice, keyboards, and monitors. X (x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6) works like a charm. However, I wanted to split the mice, monitors, and keyboards to workplaces. For example the first mouse, the first keyboard and the first Monitor for workplace1 and the rest for workplace2. Both workplaces should allow to operate independently from the other. For example I am logged in and working on workplace1. Them a friend drops by, logs in on workplace2 WHILE i am working on workplace1 So I separated my xorg.conf into two layouts. One for workplace1 and one for workplace2. However, I could not attach the keyboards to different vt's. Therfore, if I choose to have workplace1 on vt7 and workplace2 on vt8, I can use either workplace1 or workplace2. Not both of them simultaneously. I found several patches for X, but after applying them, X did not compile. I also found the Backstreet Ruby kernel mentioned several times -- these pages however date back to 2003. As you saw, X by itself doesn't work the way you intend. Different layouts are for alternate arrangements, but still single X user. Even different VT (virtual terminals) wouldn't do what you want. That would allow you to run two X sessions on the same physical terminal, switching between them. What you want might be more in line with either two X sessions, running an X server on your friend's computer, to connect to X clients running on yours (while you run your own X server and clients separately), or something like the LTSP, Linux Terminal Server Project, which runs one big server and a bunch of thin clients, normally diskless boot, that access the main server. I don't know much about either arrangement, but the LTSP home page is http://www.ltsp.org/ That's barely a pointer in (one hopes) the right direction, but that's a start. Perhaps someone else has more. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] alsa mixer question
I am running a 2.6.14 kernel: uname -a Linux lurch 2.6.14-gentoo #1 PREEMPT Mon Oct 31 01:06:31 PST 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux using the 2005.0 profile and ~amd64F4 ARCH on a Shuttle SN85G4. In general a single sound application, xmms, mplayer, torcs, works. The problem is that the browser, galeon and others, often open /dev/sound/dsp. Then when I try to run a second application that also uses sound, the second application fails when it tries to open /dev/sound/dsp. Does anyone have recommendations that I could follow to more easily get multiple applications to work together? I just want to be able to start a browser, xmms, and then run a few laps with Torcs. Thanks, --- Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Printing with Cups and 3-port JetDirect
This does not seem to be amd64 specific, but have you looked at your /etc/cups/ configuration files? My amd64 gentoo systems prints to my hp with a jet direct interface. Here is what I have: cat printers.conf # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.23 # Written by cupsd on Sat Jul 2 23:41:14 2005 DefaultPrinter hp Info hp lj 4 Location master bedroom DeviceURI socket://wednesday State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 /Printer Looking at my configuration, I don't seem to be using 9100. Have you tried the lpd port? Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Mark Creamer wrote: I have a printer configured in CUPS, which is attached to a HP JetDirect 3-port print server. I set the printer in CUPS to use: socket://192.168.1.30:9100 per some instructions I found in my searching. However, nothing prints when I do a test page. I've tried restarting cupsd, but no print. Maybe I'm missing something simple? I have verified the IP address on the JetDirect, and that the printer is plugged in to port 1 (which translates to TCP/IP port 9100 from what I'm told). Thanks! -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Suddenly can't compile anything
here is my short list of configuration commands to check: fix_libtool_files.sh gcc-config -l binutils-config -l I don't know if running them will fix your system but they help. Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Peter Humphrey wrote: I wrote: Should I boot from the installation disk, chroot and remerge gcc? I'll try that when I can but that won't be just yet. Well, this morning I did that except that I said emerge -e portage, and rebooted Gnome, but still the problem's here. Maybe I should emerge -e twice... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Internal Card Reader detection
I have the V1 version of the same computer. I am having the same symptoms and I think I know the cause. I build my kernels with modules and I think I am not loading the proper driver out of the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file, or maybe I forgot to enable something in my kernel. I seem to remember seeing the multi-device reader in a boot message many kernels ago so I know it has worked. I just can't duplicate that configuration. Any suggestions? I could include my kernel .config file and my kernel-2.6 file, but I don't want to fill up the list. Let me know if they would be helpful. Thanks, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, theboywho wrote: Hi, Hi have the same machine. When you insert something into the reader, you have to tell the machine to re-read it. Somewhere in your dmesg output it should show the usb-storage driver detecting the reader and giving it two device nodes, on my system it is sdb and sdc. sdb is the CF Reader, and sdc the MMC reader. To make it re-read the device and detected the inserted CF card I do this: echo 1 /sys/block/sdb/device/rescan after this dmesg shows the device being reread and the CF card being detected. I am not sure about 'The Right Way' to automate this. -- theboywho [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 20 June 2005 08:53, Jonathan Schaeffer wrote: Hi all, this could be off topic on this list, sorry if you think so. It's about my card reader (8 in 1 Flash, SD etc.) buit-in on my shuttle SN85G4 V3 box , and my unability to make it work with my Gentoo. It worked out of the box with Ubuntu, so I know it's feasable but I was really unable to find any doc about this feature. The Specs of the box (http://www.shuttle.com/share/product_data/spec/SN85G4_V3_DM.pdf) says it's USB2.0 interface, but, having USB mass storage working (I can plug my camera through USB), dmesg doesn't show anything when I insert some card in the reader. If someone knows about this, I'd be gratefull for the help :) PS : Of course, it's an amd64 box, so it's not as off topic as it seems... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] my gcc multilib is broken... help!
I have run into the same xgcc failure when trying to upgrade from gcc-3.4.3-20050110 to gcc-3.4.4. There is a bug report for the problem that I tagged my report into: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95212 This has stopped me from upgrading to the 3.4.4 release. The problem probably has to do with the fact that I am still running 2004.3 profile, not the recent 2005.0 or .1 profile. I hope someone recognizes the problem and can supply a fix. Good luck, Steve Herber[EMAIL PROTECTED] work: 206-221-7262 Security Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, antoine wrote: I was trying to solve this annoying little problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org/msg00029.html (btw this is a 2004.1 selinux profile - selinux in permissive mode so it shouldn't interfere) The solution advised above was to upgrade portage + sandbox, but when I tried to do so (after unmasking the latest portagesandbox packages), portage complained that I had problems with my multilib setup. So I thought I'd try to re-emerge the current portage (as a test), but it didn't get very far either. I then thought I'd try to rebuild gcc and glibc but gcc is clearly broken (glibc built fine): checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3-r1/work/build/gcc/xgcc -B/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3-r1/work/build/gcc/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include -m32 checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details. make[1]: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3-r1/work/build' make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3-r1 failed. !!! Function gcc_do_make, Line 1205, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed with profiledbootstrap !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I am certain the kernel has support for 32bit emulation (I even compiled a hello-world program with gcc +/- -m32 to check it), so what is this all about and how do I get out of this mess? Help! Thanks Antoine -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
