Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
On Sunday 12 August 2007 12:23:01 Beso wrote: > this could be also due to some known issues in the ati-drivers, that break > the system when used with xgl if it's your case try disabling xgl and > then see if it is an ati-drivers problem. > > 2007/8/11, Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am Samstag 11 August 2007 20:07 schrieb Sebastian Redl: > > > > > > Wait a moment! Crashes? Maybe the XServer staying at 99% cpu usage and > > not responding to anything but moving the mouse? That's what I'm > > experiencing at > > the moment on one of my machines. I've found the reason, I'll open an extra topic for it because it has nothing to do with nspluginwrapper. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
this could be also due to some known issues in the ati-drivers, that break the system when used with xgl if it's your case try disabling xgl and then see if it is an ati-drivers problem. 2007/8/11, Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am Samstag 11 August 2007 20:07 schrieb Sebastian Redl: > > > Wait a moment! Crashes? Maybe the XServer staying at 99% cpu usage and not > responding to anything but moving the mouse? That's what I'm experiencing > at > the moment on one of my machines. > > -- dott. ing. beso
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Florian Philipp wrote: > Wait a moment! Crashes? Maybe the XServer staying at 99% cpu usage and not > responding to anything but moving the mouse? That's what I'm experiencing at > the moment on one of my machines. > Nope, just plain crashes of Firefox. Or, in the case of a release (instead of debug) build, an infinite loop, but still in Firefox itself. Sebastian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Am Samstag 11 August 2007 20:07 schrieb Sebastian Redl: > Florian Philipp wrote: > > Am Freitag 10 August 2007 21:48 schrieb A. Khattri: > >> Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I > >> thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the > >> latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? > > > > Yes, it works flawlessly. > > I would disagree with "flawlessly", but it generally works pretty well. > > I've had some problems where, after Firefox had been running for a long > time, Flash would simply not show up. Restarting Firefox fixes the > problem. I've also had a few crashes directly caused by nspluginwrapper. > > I also suspect nspluginwrapper to be behind some assertions thrown from > the JS GC code that look like memory corruptions, but I haven't done any > testing there, so it's a rather baseless accusation. > > Sebastian Redl Wait a moment! Crashes? Maybe the XServer staying at 99% cpu usage and not responding to anything but moving the mouse? That's what I'm experiencing at the moment on one of my machines. pgp2hJeuXKME0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Florian Philipp wrote: > Am Freitag 10 August 2007 21:48 schrieb A. Khattri: > >> Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I >> thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the >> latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? >> > Yes, it works flawlessly. > I would disagree with "flawlessly", but it generally works pretty well. I've had some problems where, after Firefox had been running for a long time, Flash would simply not show up. Restarting Firefox fixes the problem. I've also had a few crashes directly caused by nspluginwrapper. I also suspect nspluginwrapper to be behind some assertions thrown from the JS GC code that look like memory corruptions, but I haven't done any testing there, so it's a rather baseless accusation. Sebastian Redl -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
i was forgetting: for a full multimedia experience install mplayer with win32codecs enabled as written on the gentoo-wiki howtos/tips and mplayer-plugin for the browser. at that point you'll be able to view also the wmv and asf embeded video on the internet. 2007/8/10, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: > > > Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use > > 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, > > which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. So in the past, > > that wasn't a problem, 64bit firefox and java.) So they wrote > > nspluginwrapper, which allow to use any 32bit nsplugin. This means, with > > nspluginwrapper you can use emul-linux-x86-java's nsplugin in 64bit > firefox. > > Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I > thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the > latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? > > > -- > A > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- dott. ing. beso
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
you have to install nspluginwrapper, flash32 plugin, follow this wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AMD64#nspluginwrapper relatively from the nspluginwrapper part and for java just install the emul-linux-java libraries and java1.6 plugin and you'll have a functioning amd64 firefox with 32bit flash plugin and 32 bit java (yep, the java plugin is only for 32bit, for what i know). there is the jaa amd64 but not the plugin for firefox. still, you cannot use shockwave, that isn't supported for linux. 2007/8/10, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: > > > Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use > > 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, > > which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. So in the past, > > that wasn't a problem, 64bit firefox and java.) So they wrote > > nspluginwrapper, which allow to use any 32bit nsplugin. This means, with > > nspluginwrapper you can use emul-linux-x86-java's nsplugin in 64bit > firefox. > > Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I > thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the > latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? > > > -- > A > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- dott. ing. beso
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Am Freitag 10 August 2007 21:48 schrieb A. Khattri: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: > > Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use > > 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, > > which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. So in the past, > > that wasn't a problem, 64bit firefox and java.) So they wrote > > nspluginwrapper, which allow to use any 32bit nsplugin. This means, with > > nspluginwrapper you can use emul-linux-x86-java's nsplugin in 64bit > > firefox. > > Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I > thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the > latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? > Yes, it works flawlessly. pgpZk8yp7bSev.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: > Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use > 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, > which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. So in the past, > that wasn't a problem, 64bit firefox and java.) So they wrote > nspluginwrapper, which allow to use any 32bit nsplugin. This means, with > nspluginwrapper you can use emul-linux-x86-java's nsplugin in 64bit firefox. Right now Im using a 32bit firefox (not a binary package) because I thought it was the only way to get Flash. Does this mean I can use the latest Flash plugin with my 64bit Firefox build? -- A -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Beso wrote: strange i'm currently using blackdown on my amd64 system with 2007 profile you're right, at least some applets works. Some of them don't (red cross on the upper corner, complained about unknown major version - guess that special applet needed sun wm - it was sun's test applet), others crashed. Jean-Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
2007/7/26, Jean-Marc Hengen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. strange i'm currently using blackdown on my amd64 system with 2007 profile Greetings, Jean-Marc Hengen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- beso d-_-b
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Hi, Beso wrote: 2007/7/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that emul-linux-x86-java doesn't work with 64-bit firefox browser. It just works with mozilla-firefox-bin, which is 32-bit. that's incorrect the emul-linux libraries are 32 bit libraries that are to be used with firefox amd64 not firefox-bin for the conversion of 32 bit plugins to 64bit plugins or better explained, they're a layer for executing 32bit plugins on 64bit firefox compiled that's why they're a dependencies for the nspluginwrapper library anyway, just use the howto flash9 and java with firefox on amd 64 from http://gentoo-wiki.com/ You're both not correct. emul-linux-x86-java is, like stated at the description of the package the "32bit version Sun's J2SE Development Kit". So, firefox, which is compiled for 64bit can't use the plugin directly, but mozilla-firefox-bin, which is also 32bit can use that plugin. The reason is, that no application compiled for 64bit can be linked with something complied for 32bit. Some people wanted however have 64bit firefox/konqueror/... and also use 32bit plugin's like flash. (blackdown-jdk for 64bit has a nsplugin, which don't work with current firefox versions anymore. So in the past, that wasn't a problem, 64bit firefox and java.) So they wrote nspluginwrapper, which allow to use any 32bit nsplugin. This means, with nspluginwrapper you can use emul-linux-x86-java's nsplugin in 64bit firefox. As a side note, the emul-packages bring some precompiled 32bit libs, which are often present on any linux system. Those are needed for packages, like opera, skype, wine, ... which are only available for 32bit. Search the list for more detailed answers about, why emul packages exists, this was often discussed in the past. Greetings, Jean-Marc Hengen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
2007/7/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100 > Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin >> in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I >> inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade >> guide >> and its friends, but they shed no light on this one. >> > They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit > browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin, > it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues. > I think that emul-linux-x86-java doesn't work with 64-bit firefox browser. It just works with mozilla-firefox-bin, which is 32-bit. that's incorrect the emul-linux libraries are 32 bit libraries that are to be used with firefox amd64 not firefox-bin for the conversion of 32 bit plugins to 64bit plugins or better explained, they're a layer for executing 32bit plugins on 64bit firefox compiled that's why they're a dependencies for the nspluginwrapper library anyway, just use the howto flash9 and java with firefox on amd 64 from http://gentoo-wiki.com/ Reference: http://www.gentoo.org/news/zh_cn/gwn/20070521-newsletter.xml -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- beso d-_-b
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Rodrigo Gnoatto Amaral wrote: There is a wrapper that alow 32bits plugins on 64bits Firefox. Just don't recall right now the name of it. nspluginwrapper -- Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem! Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
There is a wrapper that alow 32bits plugins on 64bits Firefox. Just don't recall right now the name of it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100 > Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin >> in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I >> inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade >> guide >> and its friends, but they shed no light on this one. >> > They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit > browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin, > it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues. > I think that emul-linux-x86-java doesn't work with 64-bit firefox browser. It just works with mozilla-firefox-bin, which is 32-bit. Reference: http://www.gentoo.org/news/zh_cn/gwn/20070521-newsletter.xml -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
On Friday 13 July 2007 15:55, Christoph Mende wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100 > > Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin > > in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I > > inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade > > guide and its friends, but they shed no light on this one. > > They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit > browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin, > it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues. Ah, I see. Thanks. (Just fetching that 60MB file now.) -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, Aug 93 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100 Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin > in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I > inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade guide > and its friends, but they shed no light on this one. > They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin, it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins
Time for another problem :-( On this newly installed system (amd64, not ~amd64) I have both 32- and 64-bit Firefox browsers, and I can't get java plugged into either of them. $ eselect java-nsplugin list Available 32-bit Java browser plugins Available 64-bit Java browser plugins $ java-config-1 -L The following JDKs are available for generation-1: *) Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03] $ java-config-2 -L The following VMs are available for generation-2: 1) Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2] 2) Sun JDK 1.5.0.11 [sun-jdk-1.5] *) Sun JRE 1.6.0.01 [sun-jre-bin-1.6] $ grep -r nsplugin /etc/* 2> /dev/null /etc/make.conf: logrotate mono mp3 mpeg nls nptl nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl pdf png sdl smp spell svg truetype unicode usb /etc/make.profile/no-multilib/package.mask:net-www/nspluginwrapper (That make.conf line is a continuation of the USE= line. I don't believe this is a no-multilib system.) $ ls -l /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2007-07-09 17:56 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0 $ sudo emerge -1av sun-jre-bin blackdown-jdk sun-jdk These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.6.0.01-r1 USE="X alsa (-nsplugin)" 0 kB [ebuild R ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15 USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 0 kB [ebuild R ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.11 USE="X alsa -doc -examples -jce (-nsplugin)" 0 kB Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade guide and its friends, but they shed no light on this one. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, Aug 93 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
