Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Lars Kneschke
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 
yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to
get 
new baselayout stable asap', we're serious

I just tested with a LVM system and it worked like it should be.

I have one problem. When i boot my laptop with no network card connected,
the boot process hangs until the dhcp client(dhcpcd) times out. This was not
the case with the older version of baselayout. 

And this is not nice! :-)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Peter Cech
On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:10:18AM +, Lars Kneschke wrote:
 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 
 yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to
 get 
 new baselayout stable asap', we're serious
 
 I just tested with a LVM system and it worked like it should be.
 
 I have one problem. When i boot my laptop with no network card connected,
 the boot process hangs until the dhcp client(dhcpcd) times out. This was not
 the case with the older version of baselayout. 

Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection
was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using
software suspend.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Benjamin Smee
lo,

On Thursday 26 May 2005 08:35, Peter Cech wrote:
[snip]
 Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection
 was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using
 software suspend.

software suspend works perfectly with this. The problem is more likely to be 
that your card is not supported by either ethtool or mii-tool, though that in 
itself is unlikely as almost every NIC I am aware is supported by one or the 
other.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: KDE 3.4 visibility support disabled

2005-05-26 Thread Duncan
Dan Armak posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below,  on Thu, 26 May 2005 07:25:21 +0300:

 That's going to kill it everywhere, gcc4 included. The way KDE uses hidden 
 visibility is itself broken - not gcc. Until that's fixed, we're disabling 
 visibility support in kde. (There was a separate bug in gcc itself which got 
 fixed, which may have confused some people...)

Ahh... yes.  Distinctive separate bug makes more sense, now.  I had only
known about the gcc bug.

So the KDE problem... Is that what's causing all those virtual function
but destructor isn't virtual type warnings whenever I compile a KDE ebuild
with gcc4?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] where to put *.pm files

2005-05-26 Thread Rene Zbinden
Thanks, but unfortunately it is not on CPAN. 

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 23:32, Drake Wyrm wrote:
 Rene Zbinden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am writing a new ebuild. The program contains a perlscript
  (mainprog.pl) which needs two perl modules like (module1.pm
  module2.pm)
 
  I will put mainprog.pl in /usr/bin but where do I put the two modules.
  Shall I put them in /usr/share/programename and put that to the perl
  path?

 Is this a package that is currently on CPAN? If so, I have a relatively
 useful skeleton for writing CPAN ebuilds. I was able to install several
 CPAN packages this way. In the ebuild, you'll need to edit or delete any
 line marked with XXX, but that will likely be all you need to get it
 to work. Let me know if anything needs more explanation.

 http://www.haell.com/~wyrm/works/comp/env/prgmmg/perl/skel_cpan.tbz2

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Rene Zbinden
works perfectly here. good work. I like the new network setup.

when do you thing it changes from ~x86 to x86.

On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:20, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to
 get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious

 so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice
 any regressions ?  the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your
 system comes up :)

 common gotchas:
 - many config options have moved from /etc/rc.conf into /etc/conf.d/ files
 - /etc/hostname and /etc/*domainname have been moved into /etc/conf.d/
 files - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord
 ... old config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update
 your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this
 URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/

 somethings to note ...
 regressions with lvm/lvm2/evms will not be considered ... they have had all
 their code forked into the respective packages and thus are no longer part
 of baselayout ... bugs with those packages should be taken up with their
 respective maintainers
 -mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE 3.4 visibility support disabled

2005-05-26 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:37, Duncan wrote:
 Marcus D. Hanwell posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted

 below,  on Wed, 25 May 2005 17:48:20 +0100:
  I have just committed a fix to kde.eclass and kde-meta.eclass that
  disables visibility support in KDE 3.4 (thanks to FlameEyes for the
  patches). This was a new feature in KDE 3.4 which has caused at least one
  obvious bug, and possibly others that are less obvious[1].

 [note the cross-posting]

 That isn't going to kill it for gcc-4.0.1-snapshots, right, only gcc-3.4?
 I'll be rather unhappy if the speed increases I've been attributing to
 that visibility support under gcc4, disappear! =8^(

It seems that this has already been answered, but the KDE bug contains some 
more of the detail. It looks like KDE 3.5/4 is the target for getting proper 
visibility support. We haven't taken this decision lightly, and I believe it 
is the best option we have for a stable desktop.

KDE/QT 4 should have much improved visibility support, and I will be testing 
them once it is workable and I have a little spare time
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Re: [gentoo-dev] where to put *.pm files

2005-05-26 Thread Rene Zbinden
Thanks for the help! I put it here:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94060

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 11:12, Michael Cummings wrote:
 Well, first off, how does the program look for the perl modules? If it
 isn't suggesting that you place them in your @INC, then it is most likely
 loading them directly. So it all depends on how the main script (please
 tell me it isn't really called mainprog.pl) tries to load those modules as
 to the best place to put them.

 /me waits for the bug report for this one

 On Wednesday 25 May 2005 02:06 am, Rene Zbinden wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am writing a new ebuild. The program contains a perlscript
  (mainprog.pl) which needs two perl modules like (module1.pm module2.pm)
 
  I will put mainprog.pl in /usr/bin but where do I put the two modules.
  Shall I put them in /usr/share/programename and put that to the perl
  path?
 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Aaron Walker
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
 yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to 
 get 
 new baselayout stable asap', we're serious
 
 so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice 
 any 
 regressions ?  the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your 
 system comes up :)

Does it support wireless devices that don't support essid scanning yet?

I'm currently having to use baselayout-1.10.4 (which was removed from portage
ages ago) as my BCM4306 802.11b/g chip (used via ndiswrapper) doesn't support
essid scanning.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 05:55 -0400, Aaron Walker wrote:
 Does it support wireless devices that don't support essid scanning yet?
 
 I'm currently having to use baselayout-1.10.4 (which was removed from portage
 ages ago) as my BCM4306 802.11b/g chip (used via ndiswrapper) doesn't support
 essid scanning.

It should do. Basically if your card does not support scanning then you
have a few choices

1) Hard code the ESSID - this only works when you only use one AP
2) Hard code a list of ESSID's - this works fine as long as you only use
the AP's in the list. However, it's slow as it attempts to connect to
each in the specified order.
3) Use the ESSID ANY - this forces the driver to associate with an AP
that it chooses - you have no control over which one it selects.

If not, pester me in IRC so I can fix it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 02:08 -0700, Duncan wrote:
 Hmm..  I /did/ have issues with parallel startup a couple revisions back. 
 I had disabled that and haven't reenabled it yet.  I suppose I should do
 that and bug it now, if it still fails.  It /was/ working at one point.

There may still be issues with parallel startup. It doesn't really
startup in parallel and it's not much faster, so if any bugs do come up
then we'll probably recommend turning it off.

baselayout-1.12.0-alpha3 will have much improved parallel startup thanks
to Paul Pacheco patch (bug #69854) which is essentially a re-write of
the code so we're not that interested in fixing parallel startup in
baselayout-1.11.x at this time.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: KDE 3.4 visibility support disabled

2005-05-26 Thread Caleb Tennis
On Thursday 26 May 2005 02:30 am, Duncan wrote:
 So the KDE problem... Is that what's causing all those virtual function
 but destructor isn't virtual type warnings whenever I compile a KDE ebuild
 with gcc4?

No, that's just shoddy C++ coding that also needs to be fixed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:49 pm, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
 Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Thursday 26 May 2005 07:45 am, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
 I get a message * /sbin/rc cannot start until runlevel boot has completed
 this is an a ppc platform...
 
 search bugzilla, this has come up ... i think it's because of some init
  script you have in the boot runlevel when it should be in the default
  runlevel ... -mike

 I've searched bugzilla nothing found about this ...
 hail to bugzilla

search harder :P

if that fails, look at Bug 91534

if that fails, remove net.eth* from boot runlevel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old 
 config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update 
 your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this 
 URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/

Since DHCP is assumed by default if there is no configuration, how does
one disable DHCP easily *without* specifying an IP address?

I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to
take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or
nodetect are passed to the release media.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old 
 config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update 
 your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this 
 URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/

OK... nevermind... I just figured out that I need to:

echo 'config_eth0=( null )'  /etc/conf.d/net

to disable DHCP.

Uberlord:  excellent docs... =]

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to
 take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or
 nodetect are passed to the release media.

speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt need 
to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code (lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... 
the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to  ... maybe we can do this in the 
ebuild ?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:50 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
  I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to
  take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or
  nodetect are passed to the release media.
 
 speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt 
 need 
 to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code (lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... 
 the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to  ... maybe we can do this in the 
 ebuild ?

What ebuild?  baselayout?

Where would the livecd set RC_VOLUME_ORDER?  Why should it?

Sorry if I'm not up on this stuff, but this is the first I've heard of
any of this.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bashrc mini HOWTO

2005-05-26 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 26 May 2005 16:03, Drake Wyrm wrote:
 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Alec Warner wrote:

 [...snip...]

   Thus you can do cool stuff like print debug info, over-ride default
   functions, and otherwise other fun stuff that normally would be a
   complete PITA, especially if you don't know portage internals well.
 
  Not knowning portage internals well means that this file should be off
  limits.

 Aww.. That's no fun. How are folks supposed to learn anything without
 breaking stuff once in a while?

To reiterate the point, you get to keep the pieces. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-05-26 Thread Lars Kneschke
Peter Cech [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 

Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection
was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using
software suspend.

That is working like a charm! It's booting now as fast as before. Thanks!

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[gentoo-dev] dev-lang/{icc,ifc}

2005-05-26 Thread Danny van Dyk
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Hello everybody!

I'd just like to inform all of you who patiently waited for news in
regard to Intel Compiler support for Gentoo, that karltk and I just
commited some of the latest versions of the Intel(R) C++ Compiler
(dev-lang/icc-8.1.030) and the Intel(R) Fortran Compiler
(dev-lang/ifc-8.1.02{6,7}). Both packages still need to be worked one
and are thus package.mask'ed. As long as they aren't finished, the old
versions will stay in the tree.

Bugwranglers: Please assign bugs for icc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CC me.
For ifc, it's just the opposite ;-) No worries, we already changed
metadata.xml.

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