[gentoo-dev] Re: /etc/udev/rules.d nightmare - orphaned files in /etc

2006-11-26 Thread Wiktor Wandachowicz
Sven Köhler skoehler at upb.de writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 i had some orphaned files in /etc/udev/rules.d. Namely 40-fuse.rules and
  60-fuse.rules.
 
 The files were never removed, since they are protected - aren't they?
 
 So that is _very_, _very_ unpractical, because the older your gentoo
 gets, the more of such orphaned files you get.

Something similar (orphaned HAL policy preventing USB automounting) already has
bitten some users recently, including me:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-518094.html

BTW, I really like the pace of changes in udev and hal. At least one can see
that the projects are live and kicking :-) That said, it would be nice if
portage/whatever took care of this so users wouldn't be forced to mess with the
udev and/or hal policies...

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New maintainers needed for packages

2006-11-26 Thread Charlie Shepherd

On 21/11/06, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

app-text/txt2man (low maintenance)


I'll take this...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/udev/rules.d nightmare - orphaned files in /etc

2006-11-26 Thread Zac Medico
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Daniel Drake wrote:
 Sven Köhler wrote:
 Have you ever thought about sollutions of that problem? It's not a real
 problem, that these files are orphaned - but they are neither removed
 nor renamed, so they stay in place and in one or the other way, they may
 start to disturb.

 Wasn't portage modified to remove unmodified config-protected files on
 unmerge a while back?

It's not quite as simple as it sounds, due to interactions between
merge and unmerge phases.


 If not, is this a sensible suggestion?

 Daniel


Yes, it's quite sensible.  It's fixed in svn now and I'll release it
as soon as it's had enough testing.  Watch bug 8423 for progress...

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Alexander Gabert (pappy) returns from retirement

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Heim

It is my pleasure to announce that Alexander pappy Gabert is returning
from retirement to battle the hardened bugs. Retired sometime in 2004,
he is now again interested in being blessed with a @gentoo.org email
address.

Nowadays he lives in Trier, Germany and is reaching his thirties. That's
about all his quiz told me about him but I am hopeful that all you old
farts who remember him are able to spread all kinds of FUD about him.

So please welcome pappy back to the dev community with the usual rites.


Welcome back to the flock, Alex :) May the force be with you!

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[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Alexander Gabert (pappy) returns from retirement

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Tach Petteri,  0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)

Petteri Räty schrieb:
 It is my pleasure to announce that Alexander pappy Gabert is returning
 from retirement to battle the hardened bugs. Retired sometime in 2004,
 he is now again interested in being blessed with a @gentoo.org email
 address.

 And I owe him a beer (or two).

V-Li

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 'nls' use flag more generic

2006-11-26 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:24, Charlie Shepherd wrote:
 The description for the nls use flag is currently 'Adds Native
 Language Support (using gettext - GNU locale utilities)'. However, in
 bug 137297, the kde herd would like to pull in kde-i18n from kde-meta,
And *how* KDE is using those kde-i18n package? Think about it... Through 
GETTEXT, INDEED!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 'nls' use flag more generic

2006-11-26 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 03:17:39PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:24, Charlie Shepherd wrote:
  The description for the nls use flag is currently 'Adds Native
  Language Support (using gettext - GNU locale utilities)'. However, in
  bug 137297, the kde herd would like to pull in kde-i18n from kde-meta,
 And *how* KDE is using those kde-i18n package? Think about it... Through 
 GETTEXT, INDEED!

It's using gettext? Maybe I'm just clueless (very well possible), but I
was under the impression that KDE had its own internal language
handling.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 'nls' use flag more generic

2006-11-26 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 26 November 2006 16:46, Harald van Dijk wrote:
 It's using gettext? Maybe I'm just clueless (very well possible), but I
 was under the impression that KDE had its own internal language
 handling.
It uses gettext's format, with gettext's utilities for building the .po files 
in .mo, and then uses its own internal copy of gettext's functions to load 
them.
There's no way to turn off the KLocale support (of course), but it's still 
gettext that's being used for the kde-i18n packages, as that is what have 
been used to build the package.

So yes, it uses its own internal language handling _and_ it still uses 
gettext. Same would apply if a package was using the Perl implementation or 
the Ruby bindings.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 'nls' use flag more generic

2006-11-26 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:45:59PM +0100, Harald van Dijk wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 03:17:39PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
  On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:24, Charlie Shepherd wrote:
   The description for the nls use flag is currently 'Adds Native
   Language Support (using gettext - GNU locale utilities)'. However, in
   bug 137297, the kde herd would like to pull in kde-i18n from kde-meta,
  And *how* KDE is using those kde-i18n package? Think about it... Through 
  GETTEXT, INDEED!
 
 It's using gettext? Maybe I'm just clueless (very well possible), but I
 was under the impression that KDE had its own internal language
 handling.

Already figured out it really is using gettext, just differently from
other packages. So please ignore my previous mail. :)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:53, Marius Mauch wrote:
 Anyone interested in this feature should review the attached version.

i've come to the party a bit late ... i cant seem to divine the answer to my 
question from reading this thread and the GLEP and the bugzilla, so perhaps 
someone can explicitly spell it out for me ...

is there a way in the new GLEP to say never bother me with any license 
bullcrap ?  i made sure the current check_license() function respected the 
idea of * so that i can put this in my make.conf:
ACCEPT_LICENSES=*
the way this is defined matters not so long as the behavior can be achieved 
(in other words, i dont care if the required setting is * or  or unset 
or ...)
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcement: New(ish) eclass pax-utils.eclass

2006-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 24 November 2006 11:16, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
 Although I committed it originally almost a year ago, it hasn't been
 used yet, so if there's anything fundamentally wrong with whole thing,
 now is the time say as it can be removed with impunity.

some suggestions:

you should use $@ rather than $*

looks like every use of ${f} should be quoted

full paths to paxctl/chpax/scanelf seem pretty lame to me, especially since 
not having /sbin and /usr/bin in $PATH while executing portage code would 
never work

use 'type -p prog  /dev/null' rather than '[[ -x /full/path/prog ]]'

host-is-pax() { grep -qs ^PaX: /proc/self/status ; }
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] Re: missing metadata.xml

2006-11-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Tach,0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)

 dev-scheme/guile-pg scheme
 dev-scheme/kawa scheme
 dev-scheme/mzscheme scheme

 Done.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: net-p2p/gtkhx

2006-11-26 Thread Steve Dibb

# Deprecated: upstream dead, unsupported, doesn't compile anymore.
# Pending removal Dec 26
# See #146571
net-p2p/gtkhx
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[gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] package removals

2006-11-26 Thread Steve Dibb

# Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] (14 Oct 2006)
# masking media-radio/xastir for treecleaners, bug(s) 109695
# Pending removal 14th November 2006
media-radio/xastir

# Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] (14 Oct 2006)
# masking media-libs/gltt for treecleaners, bug(s) 145969
# Pending removal 14th November 2006
media-libs/gltt

# Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] (14 Oct 2006)
# masking app-misc/linup for treecleaners, bug(s) 150740
# Pending removal 14th November 2006
app-misc/linup

# Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] (14 Oct 2006)
# masking app-admin/sus for treecleaners, bug(s) 148901
# Pending removal 14th November 2006
app-admin/sus
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:07:21 -0500
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is there a way in the new GLEP to say never bother me with any license 
 bullcrap ?  i made sure the current check_license() function respected the 
 idea of * so that i can put this in my make.conf:
 ACCEPT_LICENSES=*

Not directly, you'd need to define a local license group including all licenses 
(could automate that with a postsync hook I guess) and use that in 
ACCEPT_LICENSE.

Marius
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:03:08 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is used to mask the package, correct.  When a package is masked, it
 gives the output of the license, or, if the license it too large (I
 think Marius set it at 20K) informs the user to read the license file.
 It also explains to the user that they will need to read and accept the
 license.

The limit was at 2k, however I've dropped that feature before I updated the 
GLEP as it would only cover about 35% of the licenses in the tree (the rest are 
2k) and it would have major issues with non-plaintext licenses (and there are 
a few licenses using pdf, html or other formats), so now emerge will only refer 
the user to the licenses file by printing the filename (still need to decide 
if/how to account for licenses in overlays).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 26 November 2006 18:38, Marius Mauch wrote:
 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  is there a way in the new GLEP to say never bother me with any license
  bullcrap ?  i made sure the current check_license() function respected
  the idea of * so that i can put this in my make.conf:
  ACCEPT_LICENSES=*

 Not directly, you'd need to define a local license group including all
 licenses (could automate that with a postsync hook I guess) and use that in
 ACCEPT_LICENSE.

in other words, your only proposed solution is a hack ?
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES to cut the excess in portage

2006-11-26 Thread Ryan Hill
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can those flags be used in dependencies ?

Not as far as I know.  They're FEATURES, not flags, and are global.

 Let's say, some package needs certain tools (ie. TeX) for building
 its documentation, it would be stupid to build the whole docs
 and so require these tools, if docs are not wanted at all.

That's what the doc USE flag is for. ;)

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[gentoo-dev] Re: spamc standalone package

2006-11-26 Thread Ryan Hill
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is anyone else working on an standalone spamc package ?
 I've got several machines where I don't want to have the whole
 spamassassin installed - they're just calling an remote machine
 to do this work.

Sounds like a good question for the Networking forum and/or gentoo-user
ML.

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[gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-libs/jpeg-mmx

2006-11-26 Thread Steve Dibb

# Upstream wants it dead, we want it dead, it's time to die.
# Pending removal Dec 26 2006, bug 156373
media-libs/jpeg-mmx
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