Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Jeffrey Gardner]

William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 09:20 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote:
>>
>>> ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking 
 my butt: 
>>> Acme.jar
>> The entire Acme package is here:-
>> http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz
>>
>>> netscape.jar
>> I couldn't find anything useful about this.
> 
> I researched the heck out of it. Best I could find based on the classes
> within it's LiveConnect which I am pretty sure is a Netscape 4.x
> technology which I would assume is quite outdated.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI#LiveConnect
> http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/plugins/pjava.htm
> 
> Because of age, documentation much less source code or etc is quite hard
> to find. But pretty sure all the classes are in the sdk found here.
> 
> http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/
> 
> That's all I got :)
> 

Big Thanks (TM) to wltjr, Christopher Satwell, and Roy Wright (right up
the road in Chappell Hill - Love the smoked sausage!)!
With those leads and some upstream love I hope to have jmol up and
running soon!



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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 08 April 2007, Marcelo Góes wrote:
> As far as I can see, doenvd is more correct because it is

doenvd was written specifically to replace `insinto /etc/env.d`

> Does it make sense to allow both styles?

not really

> Is it worth it to convert everything to doenvd?

yes please
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 08 April 2007, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > sys-apps/mii-diag
>
> Can this one just go away? Is there anything that it does that ethtool
> doesn't do?

yeah, newer net-tools integrates this package

> > sys-libs/nss-db
>
> My name should be on this one already.

i specifically checked because i knew you're the ninja for these things but 
metadata.xml lacked  ...
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

[Marcelo Góes]

Hello,

I just did a quick grep of the tree and found 129 ebuilds that
use doenvd and 134 that use insinto /etc/env.d.

As far as I can see, doenvd is more correct because it is
1) cleaner and easier to read
2) more portable (for systems that use something other than
/etc/env.d, for example)

Does it make sense to allow both styles?
Is it worth it to convert everything to doenvd?

Cheers,
Marcelo

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[gentoo-dev] Re: base packages up for grabs

[Ryan Hill]

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> working here is no longer fun

* HUGZ *



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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Robin H. Johnson]

I'm one of the folks on the base-system alias already, but here's the
key stuff that I interact with, and some other related notes.

Put me down for the following:
> sys-process/supervise-scripts
> sys-apps/smartmontools
> sys-apps/sg3_utils
> sys-apps/dmidecode
> sys-apps/ethtool
> sys-apps/microcode-ctl
> sys-fs/mdadm
> sys-libs/libcap

And if nobody else turns up, I'll try to take care of these ones too:
> sys-process/schedutils
> sys-process/acct
> sys-apps/irqbalance
> sys-fs/quotatool

> sys-apps/mii-diag
Can this one just go away? Is there anything that it does that ethtool
doesn't do?

> sys-apps/sysutils
Has collision on /usr/$libdir/libsysfs.a with sysfsutils. Maybe see if
sysfsutils replaces it?

> sys-libs/nss-db
My name should be on this one already.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-04-08 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2007-04-08 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
games-board/pysol-cardsets  2007-04-02 19:31:27 tupone
net-news/hellanzb   2007-04-05 18:37:26 aballier
x11-misc/klineakconfig  2007-04-06 01:40:39 genstef
net-print/foomatic  2007-04-07 13:27:10 genstef
dev-util/ecletex2007-04-07 19:45:00 betelgeuse
dev-util/eclipse-cdt2007-04-07 19:45:48 betelgeuse

Additions:
games-sports/toycars2007-04-02 19:48:47 tupone
dev-util/duma   2007-04-03 05:57:40 nerdboy
perl-core/Math-BigRat   2007-04-03 21:37:46 mcummings
perl-core/bignum2007-04-03 21:38:48 mcummings
net-misc/italc  2007-04-03 22:34:13 jokey
net-nntp/hellanzb   2007-04-05 18:35:25 aballier
media-video/mplayerthumbs   2007-04-06 21:00:49 genstef
net-wireless/aircrack-ptw   2007-04-06 21:02:37 pylon
net-misc/x-lite 2007-04-07 16:14:01 jokey
kde-misc/metamonitor2007-04-07 16:17:58 jokey
sys-auth/pam_abl2007-04-07 17:20:37 jokey
sys-auth/pam_sha512 2007-04-07 17:26:45 jokey
net-analyzer/zniper 2007-04-07 18:23:53 jokey
dev-libs/liblazy2007-04-08 12:31:05 genstef
dev-python/pkipplib 2007-04-08 13:17:56 kloeri

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Removed Packages:
games-board/pysol-cardsets,removed,tupone,2007-04-02 19:31:27
net-news/hellanzb,removed,aballier,2007-04-05 18:37:26
x11-misc/klineakconfig,removed,genstef,2007-04-06 01:40:39
net-print/foomatic,removed,genstef,2007-04-07 13:27:10
dev-util/ecletex,removed,betelgeuse,2007-04-07 19:45:00
dev-util/eclipse-cdt,removed,betelgeuse,2007-04-07 19:45:48
Added Packages:
games-sports/toycars,added,tupone,2007-04-02 19:48:47
dev-util/duma,added,nerdboy,2007-04-03 05:57:40
perl-core/Math-BigRat,added,mcummings,2007-04-03 21:37:46
perl-core/bignum,added,mcummings,2007-04-03 21:38:48
net-misc/italc,added,jokey,2007-04-03 22:34:13
net-nntp/hellanzb,added,aballier,2007-04-05 18:35:25
media-video/mplayerthumbs,added,genstef,2007-04-06 21:00:49
net-wireless/aircrack-ptw,added,pylon,2007-04-06 21:02:37
net-misc/x-lite,added,jokey,2007-04-07 16:14:01
kde-misc/metamonitor,added,jokey,2007-04-07 16:17:58
sys-auth/pam_abl,added,jokey,2007-04-07 17:20:37
sys-auth/pam_sha512,added,jokey,2007-04-07 17:26:45
net-analyzer/zniper,added,jokey,2007-04-07 18:23:53
dev-libs/liblazy,added,genstef,2007-04-08 12:31:05
dev-python/pkipplib,added,kloeri,2007-04-08 13:17:56

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 09:20 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote:
>
> > ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking 
> > > my butt: 
> > Acme.jar
> The entire Acme package is here:-
> http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz
> 
> > netscape.jar
> I couldn't find anything useful about this.

I researched the heck out of it. Best I could find based on the classes
within it's LiveConnect which I am pretty sure is a Netscape 4.x
technology which I would assume is quite outdated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI#LiveConnect
http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/plugins/pjava.htm

Because of age, documentation much less source code or etc is quite hard
to find. But pretty sure all the classes are in the sdk found here.

http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/

That's all I got :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 08 April 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > sys-apps/byld
> > sys-apps/yard
> > sys-apps/mkinitrd
> > app-admin/superadduser
>
> I can probably pick these up if nobody else wants them.

three of those should be a cake walk ... mkinitrd is a friggin mess though, so 
after you check the open bugs on it, i dont feel bad if you change your mind 
on it
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> sys-apps/byld
>> sys-apps/yard
>> sys-apps/mkinitrd
>> app-admin/superadduser
> 
> I can probably pick these up if nobody else wants them.
> 
>> sys-boot/syslinux
> 
> And this, but a bit less interested...
> 
> Thanks,
> Donnie
> 
I can take syslinux, at least short term; I've hacked at it for years.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Donnie Berkholz]

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> sys-apps/byld
> sys-apps/yard
> sys-apps/mkinitrd
> app-admin/superadduser

I can probably pick these up if nobody else wants them.

> sys-boot/syslinux

And this, but a bit less interested...

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Timothy Redaelli]

Alle domenica 08 aprile 2007, Mike Frysinger ha scritto:
> working here is no longer fun; the following are up for  grabs
> ... drop me a line if something interests you
> net-misc/netkit-rsh
I know it very well (patches are mine) so I can maintain it.

Happy Easter to .* :)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 08 April 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Mike Frysinger kirjoitti:
> > working here is no longer fun; the following are up for 
> > grabs ... drop me a line if something interests you
>
> So you are looking to remove these things from the base-system herd or
> new people to join the herd?

 will remain, i'm looking to fill 

to fill , you need not be part of the base-system herd in 
the "watch over it all" position
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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Petteri Räty]

Mike Frysinger kirjoitti:
> working here is no longer fun; the following are up for  grabs 
> ... 
> drop me a line if something interests you

So you are looking to remove these things from the base-system herd or
new people to join the herd?

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Christopher Sawtell]

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote:
> Michael Cummings wrote:
> > So, fellow devs, what's new with development?
>
> As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies
> on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of:

> ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking 
> > my butt: 
> Acme.jar
The entire Acme package is here:-
http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz

> netscape.jar
I couldn't find anything useful about this.

> vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better
> and better every day :D)
> # unzip -l vecmath1.2-1.14.jar
The vecmath source is available from a CVS server via:-
https://vecmath.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectSource
The licence is https://java3d.dev.java.net/jrl.html
and https://java3d.dev.java.net/jdl.html

Debian version:-
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/vecmath1.2/vecmath1.2_1.14.orig.tar.gz
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/vecmath1.2/vecmath1.2_1.14-3.diff.gz



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[gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

[Mike Frysinger]

working here is no longer fun; the following are up for  grabs ... 
drop me a line if something interests you
app-benchmarks/nbench
sys-power/nvram-wakeup
sys-power/nvram-reboot
sys-power/athcool
sys-process/runit
sys-process/minit
sys-process/schedutils
sys-process/acct
sys-process/atop
sys-process/supervise-scripts
sys-process/watchpid
net-misc/netkit-rsh
net-misc/netkit-fingerd
net-ftp/ftp
net-ftp/netkit-ftpd
sys-apps/smartmontools
sys-apps/gluelog
sys-apps/slocate
sys-apps/discover
sys-apps/syscriptor
sys-apps/tcb
sys-apps/minised
sys-apps/mawk
sys-apps/mii-diag
sys-apps/fakeroot
sys-apps/byld
sys-apps/mondo
sys-apps/sg3_utils
sys-apps/yard
sys-apps/logwatch
sys-apps/lshw
sys-apps/usbd
sys-apps/memtester
sys-apps/xmbmon
sys-apps/help2man
sys-apps/sysutils
sys-apps/isapnptools
sys-apps/miscfiles
sys-apps/dmidecode
sys-apps/setserial
sys-apps/man-db
sys-apps/initng
sys-apps/gscanbus
sys-apps/irqbalance
sys-apps/ethtool
sys-apps/turbotail
sys-apps/minutils
sys-apps/discover-data
sys-apps/microcode-ctl
sys-apps/debianutils
sys-apps/stat
sys-apps/netkit-base
sys-apps/memtest86
sys-apps/ren
sys-apps/mtree
sys-apps/initng-ifiles
sys-apps/rename
sys-apps/hprofile
sys-apps/dnotify
sys-apps/fbset
sys-apps/mkinitrd
sys-apps/ezusb2131
sys-apps/mindi-kernel
sys-fs/autorun
sys-fs/ntfsprogs
sys-fs/mdadm
sys-fs/ext2resize
sys-fs/dd-rescue
sys-fs/devfsd
sys-fs/multipath-tools
sys-fs/quotatool
sys-fs/lsscsi
sys-fs/quota
sys-fs/dosfstools
sys-fs/mtools
sys-fs/amiga-fdisk
sys-fs/device-mapper
sys-fs/reiser4progs
sys-fs/lde
sys-fs/cramfs
dev-util/autotoolset
dev-util/autoproject
dev-util/makepp
sys-block/di
sys-block/mbuffer
sys-block/nbd
sys-block/mtx
sys-block/noflushd
sys-block/buffer
sys-block/gpart
sys-libs/libcap
sys-libs/pwdb
sys-libs/lrmi
sys-libs/libraw1394
sys-libs/lib-compat
sys-libs/libavc1394
sys-libs/libieee1284
sys-libs/detect
sys-libs/gi-detect
sys-libs/libaal
sys-libs/gdbm
sys-libs/nss-db
app-admin/superadduser
app-admin/grubconfig
app-admin/sysklogd
app-admin/socklog
sys-boot/grub
sys-boot/syslinux
sys-devel/remake
sys-devel/omni
sys-devel/cons
sys-devel/subterfugue
app-crypt/hashalot
app-shells/sash
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Roy Wright]

Jeffrey Gardner wrote:
> Michael Cummings wrote:
>   
>> So, fellow devs, what's new with development?
>> 
>
> As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies
> on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of:
>
> dev-java/ant-core
> dev-java/ant-contrib
> dev-java/commons-cli
> dev-java/itext
> dev-java/junit
> dev-java/gnu-jaxp
> dev-java/sax
> dev-java/saxon
>
> ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking
> my butt:
>
> Acme.jar
>   

http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz

> netscape.jar

I think this is a really old and obsolete jar.  I found this thread
which might be relevant:

http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t140950-package-netscapejavascript-does-not-exist.html

> vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better
> and better every day :D)
>   
This is an older version of part of the the java3D project.
https://vecmath.dev.java.net/

In portage as dev-java/sun-java3d-bin
/usr/share/sun-java3d-bin/lib/vecmath.jar

Note, portage only has 1.3.2 and 1.4.0_pre5

> Anyway, that's where I'm at
> Hope y'all are having better luck!!!
>
> je_fro
>   

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Re: [Off-topic] Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 09:19 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> I think we all should do our part in asking people to keep things on
> topic, and for discussions to move to the proper lists.  If it isn't
> about development, it doesn't belong here.

Yes and at min, if it does go off topic and remains on list. Please
update subject to reflect it being off topic. Like has already taken
place with this thread ;)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Tobias Scherbaum]

Joseph Jezak wrote:
> I like this thread!

Indeed! This thread is fun - and fun is what Gentoo should be about.

> The PPC team had a bugday yesterday and managed to get almost 70
> bugs off of our list of open issues!  Thanks to nixnut, mabi,
> dertobi123 and ndansmith for helping to clean up the bug list. :)

Well, it was a merely informal bugday, at least for the ppc people. But
it was fun though and we were in need of such an event :) Conclusion:
Let's have more bugdays! ;)

Personally I'm fighting with getting the HPPA parts of the upcoming
release done in time - looks quite promising as of now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tears of unfathomable sorrow

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

Hi.

Alec Warner wrote:
> Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo.  I've already done
> most of the work (sorry to burden you kloeri I think just the tree-bits
> are left).
> 

I, for one, have no joy in seeing you leave.

> Many will wonder why; but this has been a while in coming.  I don't get
> along with many like I used to and in many cases I don't find myself
> agreeing with the direction of things.  Those who know me know I always
> bitched about how I didn't do enough for Gentoo and that too is a reason
> for leaving.
> 
> I expect to still file patches for portage and I expect to hang out in
> gentoo-dev-help on irc and I expect to mentor for this years summer of
> code.
> 
> For TreeCleaners I'm sorry that this is out of the blue; I hope you guys
> continue to nuke broken crap from the tree.
> 
> For everyone who still loves working in their little window in gentoo, for
> all the devs that only read core and not -dev, for all the devs who made
> gentoo what it was when I started; thanks.  It was a fun ride.
> 
> -Alec
> 

I'm sorry to see you go and I wished you would stay. As that doesn't
seem likely, I hope you may later join us again.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Josh Saddler]

Michael Cummings wrote:
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development?

2007.0 handbooks. I am t3h master of the handbooks. They're basically
done, unless I actually hear from arch teams that changes are needed.
I've been working my keister off; I think I racked up >100 commits for
these things. Part of that was to make future updates easier, as I added
conditional evaluations to all the handbooks. This lets an editor make a
single small change to the ToC for some $arch handbook (say, to use a
new kernel version), and those changes will be propagated to every
chapter of that arch HB. Lots of XML  and  now used for
all arches.

Also, I'm looking into redoing how the handbooks are done in the first
place; right now, we have vast amounts of shared content that are
identical between arches, but are still repeated in each
hb-install-$arch-bootloader.xml file, for example. The existing setup:
within those pages, we can display extra content (or avoid displaying
content) just by doing an XML test to see which handbook you are viewing
(i.e. if you view Sparc, you won't see the x86 partitioning scheme).

I sent a proposal to the gentoo-doc list about turning that on its head,
and instead using several more separate files that include that shared
content, so that we can cut down the duplications in the $arch-foo.xml
files through the use of s that would pull in that shared
content. End result is that you'd end up with a very trimmed down file
that only includes extra content relevant to that arch, with GuideXML
mojo to yank in the non-arch-specific content. Nifty, eh?



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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Paul Varner]

On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 19:03 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has
> migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no
> longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on?

When my systems at work are not kicking my butt, I've been working on
shortening the list of bugs assigned to the tools-portage herd. (BTW,
thank you for taking genlop).

On that note the equery depends/depgraph should work a lot better in the
gentoolkit-0.2.4 series of releases than it has in the past.  I would
appreciate if people would test and look at it.

Regards,
Paul
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Joseph Jezak]

Michael Cummings wrote:
> When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in 
> the
> last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having.
> 
> Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of development?
> Surely there's a usenet channel where you can discuss conspiracy.gentoo at
> length? Or at least take it to the user list?
> 
> /me stretches and blinks
> 
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has
> migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no
> longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on?
> 
> Anyone?
> 

I like this thread!

The PPC team had a bugday yesterday and managed to get almost 70
bugs off of our list of open issues!  Thanks to nixnut, mabi,
dertobi123 and ndansmith for helping to clean up the bug list. :)

Personally, I just picked up maintainership of the vanilla-sources
package.  If your arch hasn't already, please let me know in the
cleanup bug what kernels you'd like to keep:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173710

Have fun!
-Joe
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[gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

[Michael Cummings]

Been a while, upstream moved on in life but we continued to get interested users
filing bugs, so

genlop-0.30.6 went into the tree this morning. Primarily a bug fix release based
on what was open in bugs.gentoo.org. Enjoy :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Raúl Porcel]

Michael Cummings wrote:
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has
> migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no
> longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on?
> 
> Anyone?
> 

I'm currently fixing all the possible bugs in the herds/teams i am. Like
ia64, doing all the bugs assigned to the team, from 130 bugs to 30 right
now. There are some bugs i can't do, like the ALSA and cdr ones, since i
only have remote access to the ia64 box, and no one in the team seems to
have a soundcard in his ia64 box :)

Mozilla is good, i'm working atm in mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1, and
put it in the tree ASAP. And we don't have too many bugs that affect so
many people.

net-p2p is good too, in this case is mainly version bumps and
stabilizations. Like with net-irc, i already made some cleanup like a
month or two ago.

With treecleaners we have some packages waiting, as we have to get the
60 days for removal. We have some new bugs too, waiting for all the
treecleaners to vote.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tears of unfathomable sorrow

[Raúl Porcel]

Alec Warner wrote:
> Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo.  I've already done
> most of the work (sorry to burden you kloeri I think just the tree-bits
> are left).
> 
> Many will wonder why; but this has been a while in coming.  I don't get
> along with many like I used to and in many cases I don't find myself
> agreeing with the direction of things.  Those who know me know I always
> bitched about how I didn't do enough for Gentoo and that too is a reason
> for leaving.
> 
> I expect to still file patches for portage and I expect to hang out in
> gentoo-dev-help on irc and I expect to mentor for this years summer of
> code.
> 
> For TreeCleaners I'm sorry that this is out of the blue; I hope you guys
> continue to nuke broken crap from the tree.
> 
> For everyone who still loves working in their little window in gentoo, for
> all the devs that only read core and not -dev, for all the devs who made
> gentoo what it was when I started; thanks.  It was a fun ride.
> 
> -Alec
> 

Jeez, we are loosing a lot of ppl who mentored...

Thank you very much for mentoring me. I won't forget that.

You'll be missed. Thanks again.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Brent Baude]

To encourage the positive discussion around actual development, I've 
been working on the following:


* Upcoming media and stages for the release with the releng team
* PS3 stages and media.  This is going quite well and Gentoo, if I can 
say so, has been a leader in PS3 adoption.  Interested devs, swing by 
#gentoo-ppc64; help is welcome.
* Working on an ebuild for the newly released, experimental petitboot, 
which is a lightweight bootloader based on kboot for ps3s. 


-ranger
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Rémi Cardona]

Petteri Räty a écrit :

Rémi Cardona kirjoitti:

Oh and I'm working on an updated gnome2 eclass, as the current one reads
data in /var/db. Fixing this should fix gnome/xfce packages for paludis
users among other benefits. If anyone wants to fix env saving in
portage, it would help us a lot :)



Environment saving works fine as far as I can tell in
sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3. At least it preservers export FOOBAR properly
now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262


I've read the bug report but ours looks somewhat different. Ideally we 
would like some exported variable in pkg_{pre,post}inst to be available 
in pkg_{pre,post}rm. I tried it again this weekend and it still didn't work.


/me gently pokes portage devs

Petteri, thanks for your help.

Rémi
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-db/c-jdbc

[Petteri Räty]

+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (08 Apr 2007)
+# Still generation 1 and we are one major version behind
+# 30 days and in junkyard unless someone expresses a need
+# for this package. Do it in:
+# https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157427
+dev-db/c-jdbc
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Re: [gentoo-dev] resolvconf

[Roy Marples]

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:57:18 -0700
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Roy Marples wrote:
> > A new version of resolvconf-gentoo is about to be released which
> > also works with dash and busybox. Also, the next resolvconf script
> > for dnsmasq will (also due out soon) supports updating dnsmasq via
> > dbus which means the local resolver is never down which is
> > important.
> 
> Is there any documentation around on what people need to do to change
> to resolvconf and why they would want to do so?

Aside from the man page, no not really. And our documentation says just
to install it and see the manage.

As to what it does, it manages DNS information setup for all your
interfaces in a sensible manner and works with local resolvers such as
dnsmasq, bind and djbdns for cases where the libc resolver isn't man
enough for the job.

A good example of this is a wired and wireless connections to different
subnets and running a VPN connection. Using resolvconf and a local
resolver we can send requests to the VPN domain only to the VPN name
servers, something which libc resolver cannot do.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:16 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:45 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote:
> >   
> >> Here is what I'm doing these days..
> >> 
> >
> > Let's see.  I'm currently leading the 2007.0 release, which includes
> > building LiveDVD releases for amd64/x86, LiveCD for alpha/ppc, and doing
> > the entire PPC release, since Pylon is currently away due to school.
> >
> > Besides that, I'm coordinating the articles and DVD media for Linux+DVD
> > magazine for their upcoming Gentoo issue.  I've released new versions of
> > catalyst (2.0.3) and genkernel (3.4.7) and will likely be releasing
> > newer versions of both soon.  I have been working on the Catalyst
> > Reference Manual, which I expect to have ready soon to allow me to
> > stabilize catalyst 2.0.x and finally put catalyst 1.x to pasture.
> >
> >   
> Damn, and there was me thinking you did the GWN occasionally as well

Don't even get me started on the GWN.  I have been trying to drum up
some help and things have gotten better, but it still takes me way too
long (on probably the worst days for me, work-wise) to get the GWN out.
I've been working with several excellent people to help with automation
and also some great writers to get me content.

If you guys would like to see the GWN getting closer to actually being
on time, start writing summaries/stories and submitting them.  They
don't need to be in GuideXML or anything.  Plain text is actually
preferred unless you're really good at GuideXML already.

(Goes to working on last week's GWN in hopes of getting it out tomorrow)

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
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Re: [Off-topic] Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 14:38 -0700, Steven De Bock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I really like the way where this mailinglist is heading with this
> topic. I subscribed to this mailing list a while ago with the hope to
> read more stuff like this, rather than all those rants from the
> previous days.
> 
> I've already seen a lot of "requests for help" passing this thread,
> covering a wide range of topics. I suppose these "direct" requests
> will certainly attract more people, who don't really know where to
> start contributing, to the Gentoo community.
> 
> Keep it up a little longer ;)

I agree wholeheartedly.  The constant political bickering needs to stop.
This is a development list and should be focused on development-related
and technical discussions.  As an example, things that need to be
discussed with/about the Council can go to the gentoo-council mailing
list.  Topics to be discussed with/about the Trustees or the Foundation
should go to gentoo-nfp.

I think we all should do our part in asking people to keep things on
topic, and for discussions to move to the proper lists.  If it isn't
about development, it doesn't belong here.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

[Jeffrey Gardner]

Michael Cummings wrote:
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development?

As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies
on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of:

dev-java/ant-core
dev-java/ant-contrib
dev-java/commons-cli
dev-java/itext
dev-java/junit
dev-java/gnu-jaxp
dev-java/sax
dev-java/saxon

..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking
my butt:

Acme.jar
# unzip -l Acme.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/Acme.jar
  Length Date   TimeName
    
0  10-19-99 12:40   META-INF/
   68  10-19-99 12:40   META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
 3097  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/IntHashtable.class
  479  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/IntHashtableEntry.class
  941  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/IntHashtableEnumerator.class
 6124  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/JPM/Encoders/GifEncoder.class
  357  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/JPM/Encoders/GifEncoderHashitem.class
 2912  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/JPM/Encoders/ImageEncoder.class
 1261  10-19-99 12:37   Acme/JPM/Encoders/PpmEncoder.class


netscape.jar
# unzip -l netscape.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/netscape.jar
  Length Date   TimeName
    
0  05-11-00 04:11   META-INF/
   68  05-11-00 04:11   META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
0  03-06-00 14:45   netscape/applet/
 2076  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/AppletAudioClip.class
 4377  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/AppletClassLoader.class
 1394  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/applet/AppletProperties.class
 8679  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/AppletSecurity.class
 1149  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/AppletSecurityException.class
 1367  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/AppletThreadGroup.class
 1383  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/Console.class
 3397  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/ConsoleFrame.class
  904  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/applet/ConsoleInputStream.class
 1305  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/ConsoleOutputStream.class
11491  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/applet/EmbeddedAppletFrame.class
 3370  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/HistoryElement.class
 1246  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/HorizontalRule.class
16795  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/applet/MozillaAppletContext.class
 2775  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/MozillaFrame.class
 3231  06-27-96 11:42   netscape/applet/MozillaWindow.class
0  03-06-00 14:45   netscape/javascript/
  915  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/javascript/JSException.class
 1077  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/javascript/JSObject.class
0  03-06-00 14:45   netscape/net/
 4635  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/net/URLConnection.class
  889  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/net/URLInputStream.class
 1139  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/net/URLOutputStream.class
 1469  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/net/URLStreamHandler.class
  798  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/net/URLStreamHandlerFactory.class
0  03-06-00 14:45   netscape/plugin/
  810  06-27-96 11:43   netscape/plugin/Plugin.class
    ---
76739   30 files

vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better
and better every day :D)
# unzip -l vecmath1.2-1.14.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/vecmath1.2-1.14.jar
  Length Date   TimeName
    
0  08-06-01 13:51   META-INF/
   71  08-06-01 13:51   META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
0  08-06-01 13:50   javax/
0  08-06-01 13:51   javax/vecmath/
 4948  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple2f.class
 4966  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple2d.class
 5393  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple3f.class
 6621  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple3d.class
 5684  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple4f.class
 5822  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple4d.class
   08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple3i.class
 4831  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple4i.class
 1848  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector2f.class
 1834  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector2d.class
 2262  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector3f.class
 2245  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector3d.class
 2290  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector4f.class
 2272  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Vector4d.class
  799  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/TexCoord2f.class
  708  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/TexCoord3f.class
 1945  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple3b.class
 1326  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Color3b.class
 1466  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Color3f.class
 1948  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Tuple4b.class
 1410  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Color4b.class
 1550  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Color4f.class
 1671  08-06-01 13:50   javax/vecmath/Point2f.class
 1655  08-06-01 

[gentoo-dev] Re: Tears of unfathomable sorrow

[Steve Long]

Alec Warner wrote:
> I expect to still file patches for portage and I expect to hang out in
> gentoo-dev-help on irc and I expect to mentor for this years summer of
> code.
> 
I might be wrong, but my impression is you can't do that without being a
dev. So how about just hanging on til end of summer? You can stipulate you
won't be involved in anything else..


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[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: app-misc/gfontview

[Stefan Schweizer]

»Q« wrote:

> In ,
> Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 070407 Stefan Schweizer wrote:
>> > # masked for removal: no release since 2001, build broken, bug
>> > 154671 app-misc/gfontview
>> 
>> I have added a comment to the bug.
>> If you want to remove this package, please provide a better
>> explanation.
> 
> The bug is now marked invalid, but I'm not clear on what's happening,
> because the last comment also justifies removal.  Is gfontview still
> scheduled for removal?
> 

no

Best regards,
Stefan

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