Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml
Thilo Bangert wrote: Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Thilo Bangert wrote: All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to no-herd. maintainer-needed is different from no-herd. no-herd is valid when a dev is maintaining a pkg outside of a herd. no-herd is not valid for when the package is entirely unmaintained, maintainer-needed would be a better tag for it. I would not make that change. if that were so, we would need to document it. from my reading of the current policies[1,2,3] is required and either no-herd or in herds.xml, no-herd only being allowed if no herd fits. This is where all the discussions died from last time, that I can tell. We never really decided on a specific policy change, and nothing got documented, or done. In the end, we still have a few ebuilds in the tree that have no maintainer or no herd, and nobody really cares since all the portage utilities work around it anyway. Still, as a matter of QA, it'd be nice to fix. Steve -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml
> you should look at > the archives to see what people decided. from reading the archives and the response so far as well as the current documentation on the subject i conclude that the issue is still not clear and people make up their own stuff as they go along. the following may be a formalisation of current (best) practices: - maintainers fall into three categories. herds, gentoo developers and non-gentoo proxy maintainers. - a herd is defined in herds.xml. exception: no-herd. no-herd is limited to the situation where no suitable herd can be found. - a gentoo developer is defined in dev-rel/roll-call/userinfo.xml. - every ebuild has a herd. - a package can belong to more than one herd. - a package can be maintened by no or more parties. - a package with herd different from 'no-herd' is said to be maintained by the members of that herd. - all maintainers different from herds state their maintainership using the tag. the tag requires the tag. - a package with herd 'no-herd' and no additional maintainers is said to be unmaintained. - a of [EMAIL PROTECTED] indicates no maintainership and is only allowed as the sole maintainer. meaning a single tag and a single no-herd tag. infact it is semantically equivalent to a single no-herd tag and no additional maintainers. - a package that is proxy maintained needs an additional gentoo association in form of a maintaining herd or gentoo developer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be such an association, but only if the original one disappeared. optionally one may want to include, although personally i prefer to state it explicitly: - a missing or empty tag is equivalent to no-herd open questions: - what does it mean when the package is maintained by a herd and an additional maintainer? how does one determine the order in which to contact multiple maintainers? - are there situations in which we specify a other than no-herd but don't want its members to act as maintainers? ... what are your current best practices regarding metadata? regards Thilo pgpA6IXbqq6cC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites sys-apps/855resolution
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 00:33 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Hello All, > > sys-apps/915resolution superseed this package and support 855 configurations. > > Please upgrade your configuration to sys-apps/915resolution. > > Comments/suggestions can be entered at bug#159586. > > Package will be masked at 2007-05-25, removed at 2005-06-08. > > Best Regards, > Alon Bar-Lev. Why not just remove both when xf86-video-intel-2.* goes stable? thanks, Seemant signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml
Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Thilo Bangert wrote: > > All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to > > no-herd. > > maintainer-needed is different from no-herd. no-herd is valid when a > dev is maintaining a pkg outside of a herd. no-herd is not valid for > when the package is entirely unmaintained, maintainer-needed would be a > better tag for it. I would not make that change. if that were so, we would need to document it. from my reading of the current policies[1,2,3] is required and either no-herd or in herds.xml, no-herd only being allowed if no herd fits. > > I tried to fix up your list and thanks > found a handful of the packages not > even in existence in the tree. Can you re-run this with a fully up to > date tree? funny - so why would cvs up not be enough? which packages? i was able to find all packages on packages.gentoo.org thanks [1]http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/metadata/index.html [2]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/herds/index.xml [3]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=4 pgpGNreQAXTcz.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Last rites sys-apps/855resolution
Hello All, sys-apps/915resolution superseed this package and support 855 configurations. Please upgrade your configuration to sys-apps/915resolution. Comments/suggestions can be entered at bug#159586. Package will be masked at 2007-05-25, removed at 2005-06-08. Best Regards, Alon Bar-Lev. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: invalid in metadata.xml
Thilo Bangert wrote: > All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to > no-herd. I think that is not quite right, and since maintainer-needed is not a maintainer but multiple people listening to the alias and users I would like to suggest the following addition to herds.xml to make it legal: maintainer-needed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Orphaned packages. Every developer is encouraged to fix bugs here, proxy-maintain or take over maintainance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maintainer Needed Best regards, Stefan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml
On Thursday 10 May 2007 19:38:13 Thilo Bangert wrote: > /me goes back to reading up on some history: missing metadata.xml - 2006-11-22 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/44407 -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml
Thilo Bangert wrote: > Hi everybody, > > the following list of packages uses a invalid tag in its > metadata.xml. Invalid in the sense of 'could-not-be-found-in-herds.xml' > > Most of them appear to be simple mis-spellings or minor misunderstandings. > Others may lack an entry in herds.xml (s390?). > > AFAICT most packages have straight forward fixes, which will be applied in > about 24 hours. Beat me to it if you want or stop my insanity by speaking > up. > > All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to > no-herd. > > kind regards > Thilo > maintainer-needed is different from no-herd. no-herd is valid when a dev is maintaining a pkg outside of a herd. no-herd is not valid for when the package is entirely unmaintained, maintainer-needed would be a better tag for it. I would not make that change. I tried to fix up your list and found a handful of the packages not even in existence in the tree. Can you re-run this with a fully up to date tree? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport
On Thu, 2007-10-05 at 14:20 -0400, Patrick McLean wrote: > Jim Ramsay wrote: > > > > 1) Create a single local USE flag (flashsupport or something) that will > > just pull in this dependency. > > > > 2) Use the same set of USE flags as libflashsupport has, with any of > > them adding libflashsupport to the dep list, since these are all global > > flags and will most likely be enabled for both netscape-flash and > > libflashsupport > > > > I'm personally thinking (1) is the better of the 2 options, but I'd > > like to know if anyone has any other wondrous solutions to this. > > Does/will anything else dep on flashsupport? If not, why not just add > the USE flags to netscape-flash and install libflashsupport as part of > the netscape-flash install instead of a separate package. If its a separate package that will be updated separately, then it doesn't make sense to put it in the separate package and I support option 1. Otherwise, if they'll always be together, then just put it in the same package. -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport
Jim Ramsay wrote: > > 1) Create a single local USE flag (flashsupport or something) that will > just pull in this dependency. > > 2) Use the same set of USE flags as libflashsupport has, with any of > them adding libflashsupport to the dep list, since these are all global > flags and will most likely be enabled for both netscape-flash and > libflashsupport > > I'm personally thinking (1) is the better of the 2 options, but I'd > like to know if anyone has any other wondrous solutions to this. Does/will anything else dep on flashsupport? If not, why not just add the USE flags to netscape-flash and install libflashsupport as part of the netscape-flash install instead of a separate package. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml
> > > > Is it reasonable to simply add the no-herd or should > > perhaps the policy be relaxed, such that a missing tag is > > equivalent with no-herd? > > iirc there was a flamewar about this a while ago. you should look at > the archives to see what people decided. whatever the outcome of the discussion was, the current situation is still unclear, which is why it needs to be addressed again. either we decide to relax the policy and change the documentation, or we dont and fix the ebuilds. /me goes back to reading up on some history: The Dreaded herd tag - 2006-10-28 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/43733 Herds suck, fix them - 2006-06-15 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/39385 Please use land-misc herd where appropriate! No no-herd madness!!! 2004-10-07 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/21899 Packages with non-existent herd in metadata.xml - 2004-09-27 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/21633 kind regards Thilo pgpy8WyjAHBdD.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport
I am about to add libflashsupport[1] to the tree, which optionally adds pulseaudio, oss, esd, and ssl (via openssl or gnutls) support to netscape-flash-9.0.31.0 This libflashsupport-1.2 will have the following use flags: pulseaudio oss esd ssl gnutls Now, I was thinking that it would be much easier for users if the netscape-flash ebuild automatically pulled this in, and was wondering the best way to do this. I have 2 ideas: 1) Create a single local USE flag (flashsupport or something) that will just pull in this dependency. 2) Use the same set of USE flags as libflashsupport has, with any of them adding libflashsupport to the dep list, since these are all global flags and will most likely be enabled for both netscape-flash and libflashsupport I'm personally thinking (1) is the better of the 2 options, but I'd like to know if anyone has any other wondrous solutions to this. [1] http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio -- Jim Ramsay Gentoo/Linux Developer (rox,gkrellm) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml
> Hi everybody, > > the following list of packages uses a invalid tag in its > metadata.xml. Invalid in the sense of 'could-not-be-found-in-herds.xml' FWIW, I've been providing similar results on a daily basis for some time now at GPNL (Gentoo Packages that Need Lovin) website: http://spaceparanoids.org/gentoo/gpnl/ Feel free to fixxor your ebuilds. :) Steve -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-db/firebird needs an active maintainer
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 12:20 +0200, Timothy Redaelli wrote: > Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen ha scritto: > > dev-db/firebird is without an active maintainer and have an open > > security bug #120343 ¹. > > > > Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update > > metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug. > > > > ¹ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120343 > > > > I can do it :) > I'm fixing the ebuild to use doenv, doinitd, etc instead of insinto and > to use external libedit I am willing to help as well. Was trying to work with sekretarz on getting an ebuild for 2.0. I have one in the works just needs some review, and I believe and update to 2.0.1. Wanted to commit it to tree, but did not want to step on current maintainers toes. Tim, can we collaborate on it? I use Fb daily, clients businesses, as well as mine depend on it. Joined upstream fb-dev ml but spent most time playing middle man with sekretarz and fb-dev ml. You can email me directly or hit me up on irc to proceed with this. At min would like to get you a copy or etc of what I have so far for 2.0. It's a mixture of the ebuild in bugzilla, and existing 1.5.x ebuilds in tree. -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Bangert wrote: > The metadata cleanup continues... > > A list of 427 packages found at > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/herd-metadata-check.log > > do not have the required tag in their metadata.xml[1]. > > Is it reasonable to simply add the no-herd or should perhaps > the policy be relaxed, such that a missing tag is equivalent with > no-herd? > > kind regards > Thilo > > [1] Gentoo Development Guide - Package and Category metadata.xml > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/metadata/index.html iirc there was a flamewar about this a while ago. you should look at the archives to see what people decided. - -- === Mike Doty kingtaco -at- gentoo.org Gentoo Council Gentoo Infrastructure Gentoo/AMD64 Strategic Lead GPG: E1A5 1C9C 93FE F430 C1D6 F2AF 806B A2E4 19F4 AE05 === -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBRkM+KoBrouQZ9K4FAQIfigP+K447icY7rWKLnltRkm+omZqVGfj5AbwE ahY3UlIb/McOxor+IDwbw05BJ85Mys1fVdB4NWK6UZJu3bGLA2Gl4nHHQJjnwp1b FPHeE/C15E1U0lkuY0AppH/ABOEi3Sdw9gMxlQTQvLD/qTQ1+thcMrBvYjb1r7DH 5H23iAxxB6U= =kmPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml
The metadata cleanup continues... A list of 427 packages found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/herd-metadata-check.log do not have the required tag in their metadata.xml[1]. Is it reasonable to simply add the no-herd or should perhaps the policy be relaxed, such that a missing tag is equivalent with no-herd? kind regards Thilo [1] Gentoo Development Guide - Package and Category metadata.xml http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/metadata/index.html pgp1MBpXu4fX8.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] missing metadata.xml
Hi everybody, the packages in the attached list have no metadata.xml. The following basic metadata.xml will be added to each package in about 24 hours. Speak up to stop the insanity. Thanks. kind regards Thilo http://www.gentoo.org/dtd/metadata.dtd";> no-herd [EMAIL PROTECTED] app-crypt/keylookup missing metadata.xml app-doc/doc++ missing metadata.xml app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell missing metadata.xml app-misc/grabcartoons missing metadata.xml app-text/expander missing metadata.xml dev-libs/mm missing metadata.xml dev-libs/mpatrolmissing metadata.xml dev-util/byacc missing metadata.xml dev-util/egypt missing metadata.xml media-libs/libipod missing metadata.xml net-misc/monmotha missing metadata.xml net-misc/zssh missing metadata.xml sys-apps/einit missing metadata.xml sys-cluster/wulfstatmissing metadata.xml sys-cluster/xmlsysd missing metadata.xml sys-devel/autoconf-archive missing metadata.xml sys-fs/ddrescue missing metadata.xml www-apps/browser-config missing metadata.xml www-client/downman missing metadata.xml www-client/netrik missing metadata.xml www-client/w3mirmissing metadata.xml www-servers/plb missing metadata.xml x11-libs/ViewKlass missing metadata.xml x11-libs/dndmissing metadata.xml x11-libs/kylixlibs3-borqt missing metadata.xml x11-libs/libPropListmissing metadata.xml x11-libs/xclass missing metadata.xml Found 27 packages with missing metadata.xml pgpihy3Q9SH8o.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml
Hi everybody, the following list of packages uses a invalid tag in its metadata.xml. Invalid in the sense of 'could-not-be-found-in-herds.xml' Most of them appear to be simple mis-spellings or minor misunderstandings. Others may lack an entry in herds.xml (s390?). AFAICT most packages have straight forward fixes, which will be applied in about 24 hours. Beat me to it if you want or stop my insanity by speaking up. All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to no-herd. kind regards Thilo app-cdr/powerisoinvalid herd: app-cdr app-editors/xxe invalid herd: maintainer-needed app-emulation/hercules invalid herd: s390 dev-libs/libffi invalid herd: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev-libs/liboil invalid herd: media-video dev-libs/libvc invalid herd: maintainer-needed dev-python/python-lzo invalid herd: noherd dev-ruby/jabber4r invalid herd: Ruby dev-ruby/net-sftp invalid herd: Ruby dev-ruby/net-sshinvalid herd: Ruby dev-ruby/pdf-writer invalid herd: Ruby dev-util/cgvg invalid herd: dev-util media-libs/schroedinger invalid herd: media-video media-tv/freevo invalid herd: maintainer-needed net-fs/fex invalid herd: noherd net-ftp/tftp-hpainvalid herd: basesystem net-misc/netkit-rusers invalid herd: maintainer-needed net-misc/netkit-rwall invalid herd: maintainer-needed net-misc/redir invalid herd: maintainer-needed net-misc/vncsnapshotinvalid herd: maintainer-needed net-misc/xf4vnc invalid herd: maintainer-needed sci-electronics/splat invalid herd: ci-electronics sys-apps/cpint invalid herd: s390 sys-apps/lkcdutils invalid herd: s390 sys-apps/s390-oco invalid herd: s390 x11-libs/libsexyinvalid herd: Gentopia x11-libs/openmotif invalid herd: maintainer-needed x11-misc/gromit invalid herd: maintainer-needed Found 28 packages with invalid pgpgBSRLMoNIw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-db/firebird needs an active maintainer
Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen ha scritto: > dev-db/firebird is without an active maintainer and have an open > security bug #120343 ¹. > > Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update > metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug. > > ¹ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120343 > I can do it :) I'm fixing the ebuild to use doenv, doinitd, etc instead of insinto and to use external libedit -- Timothy `Drizzt` Redaelli - http://dev.gentoo.org/~drizzt/ FreeSBIE Developer, Gentoo Developer, GUFI Staff There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
