[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-17 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on  Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:46:11 -0500:

 On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:39:41PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
 Title: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2 
 Author: Petteri R??ty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Author: Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Posted: 2008-XX-XX
 Revision: 1
 News-Item-Format: 1.0
 Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc8

 As of Portage 2.2 the world set does not include the system set any
 more. If you want emerge --update --deep @world to update the system
 set too, you need to add @system to the new world_sets file in
 /var/lib/portage/. For more information on world_sets see man portage.
 
 This brings up a question.

I've a question as well, but a different one.

Running portage-2.2_rc8 (the latest as of this morning's update), every 
time I try to emerge -NuD system, it tries to add @system to /var/lib/
portage/world_sets (saying recording it in world favorites file, but it 
goes in world_sets not in world), regardless of the fact that I don't 
WANT system included in world and in spite of all the einfos and posts 
here and etc to the contrary.

I like world NOT including system, but it seems at present, portage is 
trying to FORCE it to include it anyway, despite the einfo and all the 
messages I've read here to the contrary.  I was /wondering/ why despite 
all the messages to the contrary, it seemed world still included system.  
After reading this thread, I took another look at the above fine and 
decided I must have put it there when I first upgraded, and forgotten 
about it.  So I removed it.  Next thing I know, it's back!  Then I look 
and sure enough, portage keeps putting it back every time I remove it!  
That's not nice!

Current workaround: Since I don't have anything else I need to list in 
world_sets I simply symlinked it to /dev/null, so portage writes @system 
into /dev/null and system and world continue to be separate as they're  
supposed to be!  Now it can write @system into world_sets all day, and it 
won't change anything.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on  Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:33:10 +:

 Current workaround: Since I don't have anything else I need to list in
 world_sets I simply symlinked it to /dev/null, so portage writes @system
 into /dev/null and system and world continue to be separate as they're
 supposed to be!  Now it can write @system into world_sets all day, and
 it won't change anything.

Harumph!  That workaround doesn't seem to work either.  I guess I have to 
resort to putting an emerge previous to portage's emerge in the path, 
that deletes the file portage keeps putting back, before calling the 
portage emerge.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-17 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto

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Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
| On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
|
| Hi folks,

Hi again.

| Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves
| replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of
| channels.
|
| Thanks for all the hard work.
|
| Getting the bot out there
| -
| If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
| each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
| channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles.
|
| Please add it to #gentoo-pt. I'm not the owner but I can be your point
| of contact there.

I can't find any request for #gentoo-kde, so Robbin please add it there.
Your points of contact there can be me and keytoaster.

| Regards,
|
| Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
| Gentoo- forums/userrel/Sparc/KDE
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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on  Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:42:19 +:

 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 excerpted below, on  Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:33:10 +:
 
 Current workaround: Since I don't have anything else I need to list in
 world_sets I simply symlinked it to /dev/null, so portage writes
 @system into /dev/null and system and world continue to be separate as
 they're supposed to be!  Now it can write @system into world_sets all
 day, and it won't change anything.
 
 Harumph!  That workaround doesn't seem to work either.  I guess I have
 to resort to putting an emerge previous to portage's emerge in the path,
 that deletes the file portage keeps putting back, before calling the
 portage emerge.

Duh!  Guess I had to ask in ordered to figure it out myself. =:^S

Maybe this should be mentioned in the upgrade documentation as it sure 
confused me.  @system isn't part of world, but with the new sets 
functionality, as of portage-2.2, system is treated as any other set, 
and /just/ as with any other set, it will be added to world if found on 
the command line unless --oneshot/-1 is set as well.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-17 Thread Benedikt Morbach
To avoid having @system added to world_sets, you could add
[system]
world-candidate = false
to your /etc/portage/sets.conf


[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-17 Thread Duncan
Benedikt Morbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on  Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:39:34 +0200:

 To avoid having @system added to world_sets, you could add [system]
 world-candidate = false
 to your /etc/portage/sets.conf

Thanks.  

(FWIW, someone reminded me that this isn't a portage support forum, too.  
Still, thanks.)

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-08-17 23h59 UTC

2008-08-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-08-17 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
games-arcade/blobwars   2008-08-16 20:31:23 mr_bones_
games-arcade/project-starfighter2008-08-16 20:31:24 mr_bones_
games-action/blobandconquer 2008-08-16 20:32:41 mr_bones_
games-arcade/viruskiller2008-08-16 22:32:38 mr_bones_

Additions:
profiles/default/linux/alpha2008-08-11 17:14:10 armin76
dev-tex/sketch  2008-08-12 17:30:57 aballier
media-plugins/vdr-bgprocess 2008-08-14 19:45:23 zzam
app-misc/gourmet2008-08-15 03:09:28 nixphoeni
dev-libs/faxpp  2008-08-15 06:46:20 dev-zero
sys-fs/s3fs 2008-08-15 12:30:33 caleb
app-misc/beanstalkd 2008-08-15 21:24:34 caleb
sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs 2008-08-16 04:42:13 vapier
media-libs/libpano132008-08-16 10:58:41 maekke
media-gfx/autopano-sift-C   2008-08-16 11:07:16 maekke
dev-python/pycountry2008-08-16 17:33:18 cedk

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Removed Packages:
games-arcade/blobwars,removed,mr_bones_,2008-08-16 20:31:23
games-arcade/project-starfighter,removed,mr_bones_,2008-08-16 20:31:24
games-action/blobandconquer,removed,mr_bones_,2008-08-16 20:32:41
games-arcade/viruskiller,removed,mr_bones_,2008-08-16 22:32:38
Added Packages:
profiles/default/linux/alpha,added,armin76,2008-08-11 17:14:10
dev-tex/sketch,added,aballier,2008-08-12 17:30:57
media-plugins/vdr-bgprocess,added,zzam,2008-08-14 19:45:23
app-misc/gourmet,added,nixphoeni,2008-08-15 03:09:28
dev-libs/faxpp,added,dev-zero,2008-08-15 06:46:20
sys-fs/s3fs,added,caleb,2008-08-15 12:30:33
app-misc/beanstalkd,added,caleb,2008-08-15 21:24:34
sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs,added,vapier,2008-08-16 04:42:13
media-libs/libpano13,added,maekke,2008-08-16 10:58:41
media-gfx/autopano-sift-C,added,maekke,2008-08-16 11:07:16
dev-python/pycountry,added,cedk,2008-08-16 17:33:18

Done.

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-08-17 Thread Zac Medico
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Hi everyone,

At least a few people have expressed a desire to have support for a
package.keywords file in the profiles [1] as a means to add or
subtract any number values to or from the KEYWORDS that apply to a
given ebuild. This would allow a specific profile to alter which
packages are visible to consumers of a given keyword. This is useful
for profiles that differ from other profiles in some significant way
despite sharing the same values for stable and unstable keywords.
For example, embedded profiles which use uclibc instead of glibc.

An alternative solution for some cases might be to introduce
additional keywords values, such as those suggested in GLEP 22 [2].
However, the package.keywords approach may provide greater
simplicity and flexibility which would allow it to serve as a
solution for a larger number of use cases. For example, the uclibc
profiles would not have to maintain separate keywords for every
single package.

Since older versions of portage will simply ignore package.keywords
files that may exist in a given profile, care should be taken not to
use package.keywords in older profiles that are known to be used by
older versions of portage.

Does package.keywords seem like a good solution for the types of
problems it's meant to solve? Would anybody like to discuss any
alternative approaches?

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55321
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0022.html
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Thanks,
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