Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Josh Saddler wrote:
> 
>> Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org?
>>
>> If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not "official."
>>
> Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org?
> 
> A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits
> them best; they don't have to use overlays.gentoo.org if they don't want
> to.
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml

I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :)




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Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa

Josh Saddler wrote:


Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org?

If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not "official."





Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org?

A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits 
them best; they don't have to use overlays.gentoo.org if they don't want to.


http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml



Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is
> a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses,
> to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live
> ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new recruits. I thought
> it would be a good idea to do something similar for our multimedia
> related projects, and Steve "beandog" Dibb agreed.
> 
> So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at
> http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to
> join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added.
> Administration of the overlay will be shared among the participating
> Gentoo devs, so new committers can quickly be added. Any users that want
> commit status can get access after their work is found to be of
> sufficient quality. We encourage this, as the overlay is also a training
> ground for new contributors to Gentoo.
> 
> We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining
> ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv,
> graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding
> edge packages, you can move them to the overlay for testing and shared
> maintenance.

Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org?

If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not "official."




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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Federico Ferri
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Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Hello again!
>
>
> I have set up a test server of the current stats code.  If you have
> a minute to check it out that would rock.  I'm very interested in
> overall feedback and bug reports.

1st: you could make an ebuild for it ;)

2nd: how to improve the output: you could make every data an
hyperlink: that would help understand better the contents
example:
Archs:
  hyperlink arch name to wikipedia perhaps

CFLAGS
  can link the flag name to GCC user guide relevant section, or to
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/CFLAGS#
same for other flags and MAKEOPTS

FEATURES
  can link feature to make.conf man page:
http://linuxreviews.org/man/make.conf/ (unfortunately this man page is
rendered with no anchors over variable/features, so you could do
better ^__^

USE flags
  can link to
http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=&use= (now
appears down)

System profiles:
  can link to profiles in cvs

Package atoms can link to packages.g.o or to gentoo-portage.com



those percentages are just funny:

33 (275.0 %)58 (483.3 %)  25 (208.3 %)

Total 12 (100.0 %)  [[ yeah, total is 100%, sometimes ]]

kde 3 (25.0 %) others 554 (4616.67 %) Total 1066 (8883.33 %)

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[gentoo-dev] Re: KDE Team Meeting - August 2009

2009-08-10 Thread Duncan
Tomáš Chvátal posted on Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:22:21 +0200 as excerpted:

> kde3 - Quo vadis mate.
> kde4.2 - Stable or not to stable that is the question there
> kde4.3 - oh yeah we are great 0 day 0 hour commit :D

FWIW, 4.3 killed a couple bugs here, so it may be better to focus on 
stabilizing it than on having to cope with the same bugs in 4.2.x.  Of 
course, that might be the continuing case, the newest always killing 
serious bugs in the old, for awhile longer...

4.3.0 is good enough to finally kill 3.5 today...

I may reply to the desktop list update I see waiting to be read, with a 
bit more detail, later.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Federico Ferri
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Ben de Groot wrote:
> We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining
> ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv,
> graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding
> edge packages, you can move them to the overlay for testing and shared
> maintenance.

note that for sound-related packages there exists pro-audio overlay

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/11/2009 03:06 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:

Ben de Groot schrieb:

So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay.
 [...]


Is there a special reason, why we need to split things even more? Why not 
invite those devs and
interested users to sunrise? Training ground for interested users is one of the 
main goals of our
project.


No, please not to sunrise :P  Don't make us remove sunrise from our 
installations because it will start wanting to replace packages from 
portage with its own, more bleeding edge than bleeding edge versions. 
Let it continue to offer packages that are not available at all in 
portage, instead of offering newer versions of packages that are already 
in portage.  Thank you :P





Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Loeser
Ben de Groot  said:
> So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at
> http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to
> join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added.
> Administration of the overlay will be shared among the participating
> Gentoo devs, so new committers can quickly be added. Any users that want
> commit status can get access after their work is found to be of
> sufficient quality. We encourage this, as the overlay is also a training
> ground for new contributors to Gentoo.

Why can't this be on our official overlays?  Is there a technical
reason, because we seem to just be spreading things out even more than
necessary.

-- 
Mark Loeser
email -   halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org
email -   mark AT halcy0n DOT com
web   -   http://www.halcy0n.com


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ben de Groot schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is
> a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses,
> to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live
> ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new recruits. I thought
> it would be a good idea to do something similar for our multimedia
> related projects, and Steve "beandog" Dibb agreed.
> 
> So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at
> http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to
> join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added.
> Administration of the overlay will be shared among the participating
> Gentoo devs, so new committers can quickly be added. Any users that want
> commit status can get access after their work is found to be of
> sufficient quality. We encourage this, as the overlay is also a training
> ground for new contributors to Gentoo.
> 
> We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining
> ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv,
> graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding
> edge packages, you can move them to the overlay for testing and shared
> maintenance.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Ben
> 
> 

Is there a special reason, why we need to split things even more? Why not 
invite those devs and
interested users to sunrise? Training ground for interested users is one of the 
main goals of our
project.

-- 
Thomas Sachau

Gentoo Linux Developer



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Good idea!
> 
> Out of curiousity:  Is a gitorious account a technical must or would an
> SSH pubkey do as well?

you need a gitorious account for commit access



Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ben de Groot wrote:
> So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at
> http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to
> join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added.

Good idea!

Out of curiousity:  Is a gitorious account a technical must or would an
SSH pubkey do as well?



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:08, Sebastian Pipping 
> wrote:
>> 0)  Make sure you have these packages installed:
>>dev-python/rhpl
>>dev-python/urlgrabber
>>dev-python/dbus-python
> 
> What do you need these for?

a short and correct answer would be that smolt 1.2 already depends on
them.  i cannot say much more, except that urlgrabber might be
replaceable.  i don't use any of them in the gentoo-specific extensions.



sebastian



[gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi,

The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is
a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses,
to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live
ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new recruits. I thought
it would be a good idea to do something similar for our multimedia
related projects, and Steve "beandog" Dibb agreed.

So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at
http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to
join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added.
Administration of the overlay will be shared among the participating
Gentoo devs, so new committers can quickly be added. Any users that want
commit status can get access after their work is found to be of
sufficient quality. We encourage this, as the overlay is also a training
ground for new contributors to Gentoo.

We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining
ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv,
graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding
edge packages, you can move them to the overlay for testing and shared
maintenance.

Enjoy!

Ben



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Mark Bateman wrote:
> emerge rhpl -va
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29  USE="nls -multicall" 288 kB
> [ebuild  N] dev-python/rhpl-0.213  236 kB
> 
> Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 523 kB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> is this correct? 

yes,  thanks for asking.

(though my code neither uses that component nor do i know what it does)



sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:08, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> 0)  Make sure you have these packages installed:
>        dev-python/rhpl
>        dev-python/urlgrabber
>        dev-python/dbus-python

What do you need these for?

Cheers,

Dirkjan



[gentoo-dev] Re: Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Bateman
Sebastian Pipping  hartwork.org> writes:

> 
> Hello again!
> 
> I have set up a test server of the current stats code.  If you have a
> minute to check it out that would rock.  I'm very interested in overall
> feedback and bug reports.
> 
> To check it out please do as following:
> 
> 0)  Make sure you have these packages installed:
> sys-apps/portage
> dev-util/git
> dev-python/rhpl
> dev-python/urlgrabber
> dev-python/simplejson
> dev-python/dbus-python
> 

emerge rhpl -va

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29  USE="nls -multicall" 288 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/rhpl-0.213  236 kB

Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 523 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] 




is this correct? 









Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> 3)  Run the client  (which asks and shows details before submission)
> # python sendProfile.py \
> --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/

I forgot to mention you need to create a random machine id one way or
another before you can submit data.  An easy and transparent way to do
that would be running this command:

  # sudo sh -c 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid > /etc/smolt/hw-uuid'

The smolt ebuild is doing the very same.


We have data from 8 machines so far, you can be number 9.
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html




Sebastian




[gentoo-dev] KDE Team Meeting - August 2009

2009-08-10 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi,
The August is getting to the middle and this month we didnt find any 
reasonable excuse to not have meeting :]
So the data:
When -> 19:00 UTC @ 20.8.2009
Where -> #gentoo-meetings
Yay we (/me and nirbheek) created channel for this so the traffic on -kde wont 
be ruined even tho we suck out most important pple for a moment ;D

Topics:
kde3 - Quo vadis mate.
kde4.2 - Stable or not to stable that is the question there
kde4.3 - oh yeah we are great 0 day 0 hour commit :D
qt4-tng eclass - we are better than startrek too :]
Back to the future 2 - I was there, and brought back the plans for 4.4 we will 
have after this meeting (The longterm plans ;]).

Looks like these could last us for a while. So thats it.

As usual the meeting is mandatory for DEV's and HT's. Only allowed excuse is 
that you score some great chick on the beach earlier that day. Everything else 
does not count.

See you all around. And remember we need to speed up for catching up onto the 
christmas world domination plan.

Cheers


Tomáš Chvátal
Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Overlays/Sunrise/X11]
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> 0)  Make sure you have these packages installed:
> sys-apps/portage
> dev-util/git
> dev-python/rhpl
> dev-python/urlgrabber
> dev-python/simplejson
> dev-python/dbus-python

>From what I hear not everyone has the HAL daemon installed.
HAL is required, too:

sys-apps/hal



Sebastian




[gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello again!


I have set up a test server of the current stats code.  If you have a
minute to check it out that would rock.  I'm very interested in overall
feedback and bug reports.

To check it out please do as following:


0)  Make sure you have these packages installed:
sys-apps/portage
dev-util/git
dev-python/rhpl
dev-python/urlgrabber
dev-python/simplejson
dev-python/dbus-python

1)  Check out the code
# git clone git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git
# cd smolt-gentoo/client
# git checkout --track -b gentoo origin/gentoo

2)  Verify my server is running at the very moment by browsing to
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html

3)  Run the client  (which asks and shows details before submission)
# python sendProfile.py \
--server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/


Please note that a summary update is triggered manually so gentoo.html
will not update instantly.  You can ping me on Freenode though, to make
me trigger an update earlier.

To disable certain classes of data for privacy reasons you can put this
in ~/.smolt/client.cfg

[gentoo]
arch_related = True
compile_flags = True
features = True
global_use_flags = True
installed_packages = True
installed_packages_use_flags = True
mirrors_sync = True
mirrors_distfiles = True
package_mask = True
repositories = True
system_profile = True

and turn "True" to "False" where necessary.

Have fun and please share your experience with it.



Sebastian



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