[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for hardened profile about gcc.

2010-10-23 Thread Duncan
Magnus Granberg posted on Sun, 24 Oct 2010 03:01:40 +0200 as excerpted:

> Display-If-Install: 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item for hardened profile about gcc.

2010-10-23 Thread Magnus Granberg
On Sunday 24 October 2010 02.44.00 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 24/10/2010 alle 02.28 +0200, Magnus Granberg ha scritto:
> > You may have noticed that GCC 4.4.4-r2 has gone stable on x86 and
> > amd64. The other archs will follow later. We have enable SSP support
> > by default on this and on newer versions for arches where it is
> > supported, namely on x86, amd64, ppc, ppc64 and arm. The previous
> > version GCC 4.3.4 had SSP, but it was not enabled by default.
> > Older gcc's like 3.X versions will be obsoleted and we will not fix
> > any bugs that work on GCC-4.4.4-r2 or newer, but fail with gcc 3.X.
> 
> I'd suggest updating it to
> 
> Display-If-Installed:  
> GCC 4.4.4-r2 is now stable (on x86 and amd64 as of 2010-10-24, other
> architectures will follow later). Starting from this version, SSP
> support is enabled by default for the architectures it is supported on
> (namely x86, amd64, ppc, ppc64 and arm). Previously, GCC 4.3.4 had SSP
> support but it was not enabled by default.
> 
> Older GCC versions, such as the GCC 3.x series will be obsoleted;
> problems arising on those versions, but not applying to GCC 4.4.4-r2
> will not be fixed, so please update to the new version.
Thanks for the notes
Have updated the news item with that changes.

/Magnus (Zorry)
Title: Info on GCC 4.4.4-r2 and GCC 3.X on Hardened profiles
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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for hardened profile about gcc.

2010-10-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno dom, 24/10/2010 alle 02.28 +0200, Magnus Granberg ha scritto:
> 
> 
> You may have noticed that GCC 4.4.4-r2 has gone stable on x86 and
> amd64. The other archs will follow later. We have enable SSP support
> by default on this and on newer versions for arches where it is
> supported, namely on x86, amd64, ppc, ppc64 and arm. The previous
> version GCC 4.3.4 had SSP, but it was not enabled by default.
> Older gcc's like 3.X versions will be obsoleted and we will not fix
> any bugs that work on GCC-4.4.4-r2 or newer, but fail with gcc 3.X. 

I'd suggest updating it to

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[gentoo-dev] News item for hardened profile about gcc.

2010-10-23 Thread Magnus Granberg
Hi

Was thinking to post a news item for the hardened profile about the new GCC 
4.4.4-r2  that have been stabled on x86 and amd64.

Hardened at gentoo.org
/Magnus (Zorry) 
Title: Info on GCC 4.4.4-r2 and GCC 3.X on Hardened profiles
Author: Magnus Granberg 
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2010-10-27
Revision: 1
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Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux

You may have noticed that GCC 4.4.4-r2 has gone stable on x86 and
amd64. The other archs will follow later. We have enable SSP support
by default on this and on newer versions for arches where it is
supported, namely on x86, amd64, ppc, ppc64 and arm. The previous
version GCC 4.3.4 had SSP, but it was not enabled by default.
Older gcc's like 3.X versions will be obsoleted and we will not fix
any bugs that work on GCC-4.4.4-r2 or newer, but fail with gcc 3.X.


Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:26:47PM +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
> * Markos Chandras :
> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:39:22PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > > On 10/23/2010 04:16 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > > > # Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
> > > > #  on behalf of QA team
> > > > #
> > > > # Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
> > > > # Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
> > > > # Dead upstream.
> > > > # Removal in 15 days.
> > > > # Alternatives:
> > > > # media-video/minitube
> > > > # media-video/xvideoservicethief
> > > > media-video/elltube
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I think whenever faster than the standard 30 days is used then there
> > > should be a reason in the mask entry.
> > > 
> > You need more reasons that those I already mentioned? The package is
> > broken, can't be fixed in any way, since there is no upstream anymore and 
> > plus there
> > are more featureful programs to view youtube videos than this one. Imho, 
> > the 30
> > days does not make sense here.
> 
> If I am not completely out of date, portage doesn't warn you if you have
> a package installed that is no longer available, meaning the ebuild was
> removed from your repositories.
> 
> If you don't sync while the package is masked, you might not realise
> that you have removed software installed.
> 
> That might be one reason to keep the package.mask entry longer than 15
> days. Or I and the premise are completely wrong, then why don't you
> remove the package in one week?
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
To my knowledge this package is broken for more than 6 months, since the
first change in Youtube API occurred, and the last commit in svn is in 2008. No 
one
should have this package installed, and if he does, he simply
don't/can't use it. I want to remove it in 15 days, so the *desktop
users* ( who sync rather often, unless you watch youtube videos on your
server) are aware of the situation and find sometime to migrate to the
alternatives. I really don't understand what is the big deal about this.
I want to remove a heavily broken program. Does it really matter when I
am gonna remove it since nobody can use it anyway? Anyway, I will extend
the deadline to 30 days if that makes you happy. End of story now please
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch for python.eclass

2010-10-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:54:52PM +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis 
wrote:
> Subpatch #11 adds temporary support for EAPI="0" in 
> python_get_implementational_package() to work
> around a part of bug #340395.
> This subpatch is very small, so I'm planning to commit it with the rest of 
> subpatches.
> 
> -- 
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

> --- python.eclass
> +++ python.eclass
> @@ -1711,10 +1711,18 @@
>   fi
>   fi
>  
> - if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "CPython" ]]; 
> then
> - echo "dev-lang/python:${PYTHON_ABI}"
> - elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "Jython" ]]; 
> then
> - echo "dev-java/jython:${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}"
> + if [[ "${EAPI:-0}" == "0" ]]; then
> + if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == 
> "CPython" ]]; then
> + echo "=dev-lang/python-${PYTHON_ABI}*"
> + elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == 
> "Jython" ]]; then
> + echo "=dev-java/jython-${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}*"
> + fi
> + else
> + if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == 
> "CPython" ]]; then
> + echo "dev-lang/python:${PYTHON_ABI}"
> + elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == 
> "Jython" ]]; then
> + echo "dev-java/jython:${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}"
> + fi
>   fi
>  }
>  
Well, I found sometime today and looked at your patches. Even thought I
find it quite hard to familiarize myself with the *rather complex* 
python.eclass,
I think your patches are fine if I may say.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch for python.eclass

2010-10-23 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
Subpatch #11 adds temporary support for EAPI="0" in 
python_get_implementational_package() to work
around a part of bug #340395.
This subpatch is very small, so I'm planning to commit it with the rest of 
subpatches.

-- 
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
--- python.eclass
+++ python.eclass
@@ -1711,10 +1711,18 @@
 		fi
 	fi
 
-	if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "CPython" ]]; then
-		echo "dev-lang/python:${PYTHON_ABI}"
-	elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "Jython" ]]; then
-		echo "dev-java/jython:${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}"
+	if [[ "${EAPI:-0}" == "0" ]]; then
+		if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "CPython" ]]; then
+			echo "=dev-lang/python-${PYTHON_ABI}*"
+		elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "Jython" ]]; then
+			echo "=dev-java/jython-${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}*"
+		fi
+	else
+		if [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "CPython" ]]; then
+			echo "dev-lang/python:${PYTHON_ABI}"
+		elif [[ "$(_python_get_implementation "${PYTHON_ABI}")" == "Jython" ]]; then
+			echo "dev-java/jython:${PYTHON_ABI%-jython}"
+		fi
 	fi
 }
 


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[gentoo-dev] Re: Patch for python.eclass

2010-10-23 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-10-22 09:56:56 Mike Frysinger napisał(a):
> On Monday, October 18, 2010 11:15:45 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > Il giorno lun, 18/10/2010 alle 17.10 +0200, Arfrever ha scritto:
> > > No. It's not related to that bug.
> > 
> > So I guess Mike's next reply is going to be "and what are you waiting
> > for, before fixing it?". Seriously.
> 
> i guess the answer is that you need someone on the QA team to fix it for you ?

You shouldn't assume, that I can write answers when I'm away.
I will work on a patch.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Torsten Veller
* Markos Chandras :
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:39:22PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > On 10/23/2010 04:16 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > > # Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
> > > #  on behalf of QA team
> > > #
> > > # Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
> > > # Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
> > > # Dead upstream.
> > > # Removal in 15 days.
> > > # Alternatives:
> > > # media-video/minitube
> > > # media-video/xvideoservicethief
> > > media-video/elltube
> > > 
> > 
> > I think whenever faster than the standard 30 days is used then there
> > should be a reason in the mask entry.
> > 
> You need more reasons that those I already mentioned? The package is
> broken, can't be fixed in any way, since there is no upstream anymore and 
> plus there
> are more featureful programs to view youtube videos than this one. Imho, the 
> 30
> days does not make sense here.

If I am not completely out of date, portage doesn't warn you if you have
a package installed that is no longer available, meaning the ebuild was
removed from your repositories.

If you don't sync while the package is masked, you might not realise
that you have removed software installed.

That might be one reason to keep the package.mask entry longer than 15
days. Or I and the premise are completely wrong, then why don't you
remove the package in one week?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Petteri Räty
On 10/23/2010 08:59 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> Il giorno sab, 23/10/2010 alle 20.58 +0300, Petteri Räty ha scritto:
>> My point was to have something along the lines of "Removal in 15 days
>> because of the above." 
> 
> It would just be a formula to use, and a silly one. _Obviously_ the
> removal is because of the above, and if the time is shorter, the reason
> _is_ the one above.
> 

I didn't consider it obvious. I could be alone of course but doesn't
hurt to be explicit.

Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno sab, 23/10/2010 alle 20.58 +0300, Petteri Räty ha scritto:
> My point was to have something along the lines of "Removal in 15 days
> because of the above." 

It would just be a formula to use, and a silly one. _Obviously_ the
removal is because of the above, and if the time is shorter, the reason
_is_ the one above.

What is it, next time you're going to ask us to make ChangeLog stating
"Version bump, because upstream released a new version"?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Petteri Räty
On 10/23/2010 08:51 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:39:22PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> On 10/23/2010 04:16 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>> # Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
>>> #  on behalf of QA team
>>> #
>>> # Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
>>> # Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
>>> # Dead upstream.
>>> # Removal in 15 days.
>>> # Alternatives:
>>> # media-video/minitube
>>> # media-video/xvideoservicethief
>>> media-video/elltube
>>>
>>
>> I think whenever faster than the standard 30 days is used then there
>> should be a reason in the mask entry.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Petteri
>>
> You need more reasons that those I already mentioned? The package is
> broken, can't be fixed in any way, since there is no upstream anymore and 
> plus there
> are more featureful programs to view youtube videos than this one. Imho, the 
> 30
> days does not make sense here.
> 

My point was to have something along the lines of "Removal in 15 days
because of the above."

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:39:22PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> On 10/23/2010 04:16 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > # Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
> > #  on behalf of QA team
> > #
> > # Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
> > # Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
> > # Dead upstream.
> > # Removal in 15 days.
> > # Alternatives:
> > # media-video/minitube
> > # media-video/xvideoservicethief
> > media-video/elltube
> > 
> 
> I think whenever faster than the standard 30 days is used then there
> should be a reason in the mask entry.
> 
> Regards,
> Petteri
> 
You need more reasons that those I already mentioned? The package is
broken, can't be fixed in any way, since there is no upstream anymore and plus 
there
are more featureful programs to view youtube videos than this one. Imho, the 30
days does not make sense here.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Petteri Räty
On 10/23/2010 04:16 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> # Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
> #  on behalf of QA team
> #
> # Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
> # Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
> # Dead upstream.
> # Removal in 15 days.
> # Alternatives:
> # media-video/minitube
> # media-video/xvideoservicethief
> media-video/elltube
> 

I think whenever faster than the standard 30 days is used then there
should be a reason in the mask entry.

Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] QA last rites: media-video/elltube

2010-10-23 Thread Markos Chandras
# Markos Chandras  (23 Oct 2010)
#  on behalf of QA team
#
# Does not work with recent versions of ffmpeg.
# Does not work with youtube anymore due to API changes.
# Dead upstream.
# Removal in 15 days.
# Alternatives:
# media-video/minitube
# media-video/xvideoservicethief
media-video/elltube

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[gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-libs/capseo; media-libs/libcaptury; media-video/captury

2010-10-23 Thread Diego E . Pettenò

# Diego E. Pettenò  (23 Oct 2010)
#  on behalf of QA team
#
# Ebuilds are in very sorry state; they all try to workaround
# distcc/ccache which an ebuild should never do; they
# are ready to call autogen.sh and not use the autotools
# eclass; USE=debug tinkers with flags; don't call econf and
# don't use elog. See bugs #213197; #255872 and #293931 at
# least. Maintainer is unresponsive, the ebuilds should all
# be rewritten at the very least.
#
# Removal on 2010-12-22
media-libs/capseo
media-libs/libcaptury
media-video/captury