[gentoo-portage-dev] Does temp need g+w?
Hi all, does temp directory in /var/tmp/portage/$cat/$pkg really need g+w permission? I have to use two versions of hardened kernel, one with disabled CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE_ALL (for emerge) and one with enabled (for normal run). Thanks in advance for your answer. -- Jan Sever
Re: [gentoo-dev] vmware team needs help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 13/02/2015 12:03 ??, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Hi all, I'm the only dev left in the vmware team who is taking care of VMware Workstation and friends. Or more precisely, not taking care of it these days, since my non-Gentoo workload is increasing and since VMware Workstation is not really the highest thing on my Gentoo priority list either (though I use it regularly). We could really need some help here... Things to do are e.g. * vmware-workstation, vmware-player, vmware-modules major version bump * tracking and applying patches to vmware-modules for newer kernels * sorting out the screwed-up bundled library situation ... :( We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. The only real alternative is to treeclean and tell people to use the bundled installer. No idea how well this works. Talk to me if interested... Best, Andreas If you write a small item we can add it to the next GMN to reach a wider audience. I see we already have a vmware entry at http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs/Vmware_developer which is nice :) - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU32TmAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCElQP/AyxKrLPXFFAxf81V5dB5SIB PItGeMu0FQrmQcKJ+0Phsr1UJTlkWqLghNOyEYU7sfcstfMKVmXPdOFpvBYyScnD R5DIgW8JAzoCuo54h1dJHdt4eS1DQiXMYjj+CfHk7SHmjVpG3CW4xkt1R5/DievG ZfLBYgmZYDuSBWmg4Ti9gnhASRTpG5H8N6/vlOV9Hw+f/B4yjbUt0XwEZ6ysxjkL Un88Ls+Jz0OKu5NseLuWuoS09/sZgEAQecQmmOaalfQkamAqewyYvU+YvZiwZt/I 1gW9zwc+8vnSPSlwpfqyQeT79omwS5+fUOAvyqwNzlFt+klnH/AgzP5dNOM+GZ4x eF7INgyqHV+nLWVB38rvq8DWF2XcT9ekcyYSrEybPXajLCRJZ9tY0K7FSyGkvstt u6zuGbJJx6HKqxPWFMwxPCToSoU22eGVcHxm46vNSdNmMTzJEm/vNjOEzkRo3OhQ T8tDA+ehQw/BybUDAcpTbtWRgIJyTBO727q/Spyu2db9clJuPZVUhIi7pokzyvcO 30iAo9++GGqGJR1TOlJJlfhBRb1eiaq0Hk3rR0J2y1MLBlNcVqhjss3gjF3Xoe6n ee+cSNHhMntxs6vWsgUcYSQ4daapUQCdE0A9TRvdjwVuQ4B4IkTtjsIctd0TzULj DG5VmYx9WuHXsYZt5bvS =dJ92 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 16:00:46 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org Let me point at the other pink elephant in the room. https://about.gitlab.com/ -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice) dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On 02/14/2015 10:00 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: Does anyone have experience with solutions such as [PHABRICATOR]? other similar systems? References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org (Has everyone forgotten that you don't need Github if you want to send a `git request-pull` ?) Phabricator works OK but it's a behemoth and tries to integrate a bunch of things we don't want to integrate. Maybe there's a way to disable them? A big turnoff for me was the install instructions, which are: $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/libphutil.git $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/arcanist.git $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/phabricator.git They all look for each other in the same directory, and there are no releases. A good compromise is to host the official repo on git.overlays.g.o and then mirror it on Github. That way less-experienced git users can contribute easily, and the devs can figure out how to get the changes into the official repo.
[gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests?
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/14/2015 03:38 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests? As a general comment (I'm not at all related to vmware team), we can well discuss merits of code review, pull requests etc and even using difference VCSes (in this case Git). But lets please not move too much outside of gentoo infrastructure control and of all things discussing a proprietary solution? Does anyone have experience with solutions such as [PHABRICATOR]? other similar systems? References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org - -- Kristian Fiskerstrand Public PGP key 0xE3EDFAE3 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU32MaAAoJEP7VAChXwav6FI4IAJT4bLRCSAe0Jquq6Kb6hmqJ VSgnYGmL3gtaIbPb3WM3xOv0vo1lsVuFObZjHqhiUlmeqMGfy4MdZpUmRfiSHVOE BXqqMJyWc1guroJbN/DVMd4iorYLmAWcyxOM/K5+NjO0e6rd6WMvDIYO4ogiixhT m3rODQ6BStABe7YdlrNrIPrr1sUofau0rLVYkgClgwoBXqC6/PxJV9GHOiuGo039 JYb0G9CFBmGu1MenXd/KMWHVqt9ITnEsn+W7UCFugHHwXrD3BS92clnJUY7Z17eQ /17PE7F1C2KBB4rw787DnREV97+jreZnEwcfo5GNh6saREdMRfREpWt/8EYeP9s= =WNnT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On 15/02/15 02:00, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: On 02/14/2015 03:38 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests? As a general comment (I'm not at all related to vmware team), we can well discuss merits of code review, pull requests etc and even using difference VCSes (in this case Git). But lets please not move too much outside of gentoo infrastructure control and of all things discussing a proprietary solution? Does anyone have experience with solutions such as [PHABRICATOR]? other similar systems? References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org Most (all?) Gentoo overlays on GitHub still retain their presence on g.o.g.o
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/14/2015 04:34 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 02/14/2015 10:00 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: Does anyone have experience with solutions such as [PHABRICATOR]? other similar systems? References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org (Has everyone forgotten that you don't need Github if you want to send a `git request-pull` ?) A fair point, indeed Phabricator works OK but it's a behemoth and tries to integrate a bunch of things we don't want to integrate. Maybe there's a way to disable them? A big turnoff for me was the install instructions, which are: $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/libphutil.git $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/arcanist.git $ git clone https://github.com/phacility/phabricator.git They all look for each other in the same directory, and there are no releases. Yeah, that looks bad enough to run away screaming. Thanks. A good compromise is to host the official repo on git.overlays.g.o and then mirror it on Github. That way less-experienced git users can contribute easily, and the devs can figure out how to get the changes into the official repo. Indeed - -- Kristian Fiskerstrand Public PGP key 0xE3EDFAE3 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU32xWAAoJEP7VAChXwav6ju8H/0Xjq1otmi2eW6gLdRG9FRyW fdTfeiB/3izZVzUYeT6ElqSaRvWPSB9yy7CFdfD6UKNNMWjrHkmqrpxpo663FtZ9 u8YtG5y4tsytO4raLL9o41MGoVRLksQ24Yza22nPW71E24bFjjLE/6WSSQvySEj5 lE3K8sIjlFCCtslo8AbD7pIJGQheVJKhp+NObhlv5B+yi8yb5b15SzqhSAIrMw3u TVizuEkSpL7PtAvLtzvOIq8trLfwsYBT8vy5izMnLEtmlUR1dUy4J2zxS/IjIByB IihY39oKgW4wguM5n4fmwv3DC1VFC+QwmOX6mZqKN/CKe6doUUwZhFEvnJe9Q0Q= =sx/u -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] ffmpeg vs libav choice of default
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 01:32:40 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 4 February 2015 at 17:26, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:12:12 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav being listed first in || ( ) dependencies). In the replies to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=7694982 several users have expressed their preference for ffmpeg. So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why we prefer libav over ffmpeg? good luck ! wait for other opinions, but I'd say: libav has a cleaner codebase and stricter development rules. (NB: some gentoo devs are member of the core libav dev team) IMHO, from a pure consumer POV where I want to play a random video and my programs using the libraries not to break, ffmpeg is much better (more codecs get in faster, API is preserved a bit longer), so I never understood nor agreed with that choice of default. I think for our users the latter is more important. After all the discussion we had here and on the forums, I propose we change the default to ffmpeg. Thoughts? I'd say let libav be default in developer profiles, ffmpeg in base. It's good to have the stricter one default for developers in order not to make it completely unusable for users. Alexis.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:10:36 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 16:00:46 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org Let me point at the other pink elephant in the room. https://about.gitlab.com/ +1 i've never worked on deploying it but i've seen people doing it and it seems it's some non negligible amount of work... considering a simple cgit viewer for g.o.g.o isn't even there, i'd say any solution is good as long as someone volunteers to do the work meanwhile, github, or any equivalent that fits better the social contract, is just as good and already deployed
[gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On 14/02/15 20:30, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 15:38:12 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests? Any plans to take the quizzes and take responsibility yourself? :) I've been around long enough (2005-ish or so) to know that I don't want the Gentoo dev-community drama :-P But perhaps more importantly, I tend to disappear for whole months at a time. Should user-submitted patches/pull requests be sent to the vmware herd email, or directly to you?
Re: [gentoo-dev] ffmpeg vs libav choice of default
On 4 February 2015 at 17:26, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:12:12 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav being listed first in || ( ) dependencies). In the replies to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=7694982 several users have expressed their preference for ffmpeg. So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why we prefer libav over ffmpeg? good luck ! wait for other opinions, but I'd say: libav has a cleaner codebase and stricter development rules. (NB: some gentoo devs are member of the core libav dev team) IMHO, from a pure consumer POV where I want to play a random video and my programs using the libraries not to break, ffmpeg is much better (more codecs get in faster, API is preserved a bit longer), so I never understood nor agreed with that choice of default. I think for our users the latter is more important. After all the discussion we had here and on the forums, I propose we change the default to ffmpeg. Thoughts? -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
Dnia 2015-02-14, o godz. 17:10:36 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 16:00:46 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org Let me point at the other pink elephant in the room. https://about.gitlab.com/ Could we limit this to packages that can be sanely deployed? -- Best regards, Michał Górny pgp3uM9iNfa6A.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
Dnia 2015-02-14, o godz. 19:43:08 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:10:36 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 16:00:46 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: References: [PHABRICATOR] http://phabricator.org Let me point at the other pink elephant in the room. https://about.gitlab.com/ +1 i've never worked on deploying it but i've seen people doing it and it seems it's some non negligible amount of work... considering a simple cgit viewer for g.o.g.o isn't even there, i'd say any solution is good as long as someone volunteers to do the work http://cgit.gentooexperimental.org/ -- Best regards, Michał Górny pgpMnZFH5uRtS.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 15:38:12 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests? Any plans to take the quizzes and take responsibility yourself? :) -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice) dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Fix random SonameOrChoicesTestCase failure
In commit 11467fc640995e3dc8897c82bbc7130d5bf27d05, the atom_not_selected variable was initialized outside of a loop, when it should have been re-initialized for each iteration of the loop. This caused atom_not_selected to have an incorrect value in some cases, triggering random failures of SonameOrChoicesTestCase, as observed here: https://travis-ci.org/gentoo/portage/jobs/50673911#L1114 Fixes: 11467fc64099 (depgraph: soname dependency resolution (bug 282639)) --- pym/_emerge/depgraph.py | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py b/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py index 63c89a4..e8a3110 100644 --- a/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py +++ b/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py @@ -1860,9 +1860,9 @@ class depgraph(object): replacement_candidates = [] # Set of all packages all atoms can agree on. all_candidate_pkgs = None - atom_not_selected = False for atom in atoms: + atom_not_selected = False if not atom.package: unevaluated_atom = None -- 2.0.5
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/14/15 20:42, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 14/02/15 20:30, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015, 15:38:12 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 13/02/15 00:03, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: We have an overlay that can be used and is used for user contributions. Any plans to move it to github so we can fork and send pull requests? Any plans to take the quizzes and take responsibility yourself? :) I've been around long enough (2005-ish or so) to know that I don't want the Gentoo dev-community drama :-P But perhaps more importantly, I tend to disappear for whole months at a time. Should user-submitted patches/pull requests be sent to the vmware herd email, or directly to you? You don't have to participate to the discussions in the mailing lists :) You can just contribute code! Even a single patch a month or so is better than nothing - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU36bkAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCbHgP/RrqhwyRFUxjBZhRnCRhRWeR o/FEX/JMSY3zXMfeJE47O3InqMewfxcREZxEI50W4g0mJGKy/Z+fOXbyo9efWRBE jNOZoRDh3ZXOIQL6lO7beQpJTzC7l2uI9/iqAe27IF0RV4KtufnIaOQA/IYuAd3f BN2hntL+roSzb2JZkU+MkvB3M63CvDeORz9vVJDKGXE1JbrzGHHOpRzhXO5nSDt8 td0qvpBrbyy2nipYbtOpbtJowVWuGoLFlw5L3FlnjvReMsPTshHXyAzwb8DDqszR VTux2KYKpjRvKC+jDPRuy0TQPQYeInLdO7uvpoXknmKey1UdRO3NU1V8PQ4llET4 k/WoX3ONlkOGyxkW0yRGLF9wwGJRfjqvKCfbW6Kc/VinhaNj6jzGahPZ1YZdu33X hBegfJgyDDivYoA56rHprjFdOKtGv7zpy3fbaP6RjN8MfP7wHPlw7CiJVX5aXRGx kTGYF2dYdekfmVIrLaPx6UGGBZcaoiqnpY3HiBo5jNFQTRSZWIxwAbyS7wdbvt32 YEZ8RUvBqJlJVNCzQpEaT8KO4YKRKjxRf5c2MQ7kXUAVjr1vpSutA7Gwcx1xsnEO m8Pi66V8h7Qno3egDFFydR3x2aESYE4q3ZxJX7zkWkleKBRVdLHjIsR8CFwg9J5J 39C695DOhcko0t+l/qnb =0B8P -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default
On 14/02/15 19:41, Fabio Erculiani wrote: If only libav and ffmpeg developers would stop breaking their API on every release... Just break it once and for all. It's so sad that I still can't upgrade from libav-9 because of this. Feature request: could you stop breaking the API for a couple of years? Thanks. If you say that you have to, well, I won't believe you. Libav 10 and Libav 11 had no api removal for that reason and probably Libav 12 will see only few items deprecated since 2 years removed. lu
Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Fix random SonameOrChoicesTestCase failure
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 11:11:56 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: In commit 11467fc640995e3dc8897c82bbc7130d5bf27d05, the atom_not_selected variable was initialized outside of a loop, when it should have been re-initialized for each iteration of the loop. This caused atom_not_selected to have an incorrect value in some cases, triggering random failures of SonameOrChoicesTestCase, as observed here: https://travis-ci.org/gentoo/portage/jobs/50673911#L1114 Fixes: 11467fc64099 (depgraph: soname dependency resolution (bug 282639)) --- pym/_emerge/depgraph.py | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py b/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py index 63c89a4..e8a3110 100644 --- a/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py +++ b/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py @@ -1860,9 +1860,9 @@ class depgraph(object): replacement_candidates = [] # Set of all packages all atoms can agree on. all_candidate_pkgs = None - atom_not_selected = False for atom in atoms: + atom_not_selected = False if not atom.package: unevaluated_atom = None LGTM -- Brian Dolbec dolsen
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:49:56 +0200 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: You don't have to participate to the discussions in the mailing lists :) You can just contribute code! Even a single patch a month or so is better than nothing Forgive me for hijacking the thread, but, the “or so” in the above isn’t all that flexible. See section 3.k of http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1chap=3. Being required to do something Gentoo-related at least every two months in order to not be considered “inactive” pretty much eliminates any incentive I had to try and become a developer presently. I could certainly see myself picking up three or four packages that I personally care about and maintaining them, but not actually needing to commit anything for a couple of months simply because those packages don’t release anything new very often. Then I’m declared inactive and kicked out because I didn’t commit often enough, simply because I chose to make a small contribution appropriate to my other workload, rather than no contribution at all. Perhaps that’s “your” (collective) intent—to avoid developers who do a tiny bit of work here and there on a few packages, in favour of having a much smaller number of developers who have to handle more packages—which is fine, but it excludes people like me from participating as full developers. -- Christopher Head signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: vmware team needs help
On 02/14/2015 06:38 PM, Christopher Head wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:49:56 +0200 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: You don't have to participate to the discussions in the mailing lists :) You can just contribute code! Even a single patch a month or so is better than nothing Forgive me for hijacking the thread, but, the “or so” in the above isn’t all that flexible. See section 3.k of http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1chap=3. No one is going to boot you for inactivity if you have nothing to do. You might get an are you alive? email, but assuming you answer within a few weeks, all my work is done is the best reason to be doing nothing.
