Re: [gentoo-user] patching source

2003-08-07 Thread Henti Smith
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:22:32 +0200
Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Morning!
 
 On Wednesday 06 August 2003 06:24, downtime null wrote:
  is it possible to download an ebuild package, patch the source, then
  build the package?
 
 I don't know whether there is an automated solution, but the best I can come 
 up with is the following:
 
 1. Fetch the files:
   emerge -f package
 2. Set $PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf (place for local ebuilds that will
not be overwritten by emergy sync)
 3. Copy the Ebuild in question and the patch to a place under $PORTDIR_OVERLAY
 4. Change the ebuild (add the epatch statement, check some ebuild for an
example)
 5. emerge
 
 Step 1 is optional, I think. Also, check the portage docs - I have never done 
 anything with $PORTDIR_OVERLAY, so I don't know what directory will be first 
 searched for an ebuild if it is in both $PORTDIR_OVERLAY and /usr/portage. 
 Possibly you have to give it a unique name.

this is a bit of overkill don't you think 

why not just : 

ebuild file.ebuild unpack
cd /var/tmp/portage/packagedir/work/packagedir_unpacked
patch source tree 
ebuild file.ebuild compile
ebuild file.ebuild merge

This would seem to be the whole point of portage/ebuild setup so that you can have 
control over the whole process. 

The above process of duplicating the ebuild and adding your own patches is really only 
needed if you are submitting a patch to the main ebuild .. but to custom patch just 
one application the above should work fine.


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RE: [gentoo-user] duplicate emails

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Knecht
David,
   Yours did not double post to me. I have only received one double post in
the last few days, and it was a response to me, so that might have been
intended.

Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: David H. Askew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate emails


 Hmm .. mines double posting ... hmm I wonder why.

 On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 15:18, David H. Askew wrote:
  I've noticed that I get duplicate emails on this list from several
  users.  What might be causing this ?
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[gentoo-user] Program maximized in icewm

2003-08-07 Thread Meka[ni]
Is there an option to make the windows maximized when starting a program. I've 
tried with
-geometry 800x600,0,0 but it doesn't work for every program. Am I doing something 
wrong?
Thanx ppl. :o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update all installed packages - emerge -uDpv world (don't work)

2003-08-07 Thread CrPy
Hi,

Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 17:31 schrieb Robert Kruus:
 It is rumored that CrPy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi ml,
 
  Am Montag, 4. August 2003 12:51 schrieb CrPy:
   Hi,
  
   there are a concern, I like to have cleared and dicussed.
  
   1. Why does
   emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) != emerge -uDpv world?
   The first try to update all packages. All installed package are
   updated. The second try to update all packages in world  'deep'. But
   the irst and the second are not the same. World 'deep' is less than
   $(qpkg -I -nc).
  
   Where is my mistake, or is it a bug? BTW regenworld don't change
   anything
  
   /CrPy
 
  Are there nobody interessed in? Or what ... ?!?
 
  Maybe I do not understand what world mean. But as far as I can see not
  all installed packages are in world.

   That's right, the system packages are not included in world.  They would
 however be included in the qpkg -I command.
   IFAIK, dependencies for emerged packages also do not necessarily end up in
 the world file (i.e. if you and install of gentoo then do emerge gnome
 ...), but I'm not sure about that, though they should get caught with the
 -D option.

Thanks of reply :)

OK. Thats true. But I think it is a bug. Because all the packages that are not 
updated by emerge -uDpv world, are in the list of emerge -e world. Thats 
strange isn't it?

It would be fine if same guys of there, would try if the output of 
emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) is different output than emerge -uDpv world.
If so, take a look if these package are in the output of emerge -e world.

So if there is a different between emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) and emerge -uDpv 
world and the package are in emerge -e world, then it should be a bug in the 
update mechanism of portage. Or I'am wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc questions

2003-08-07 Thread Spider
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:21:25 +0200
Ole Langbehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 my home network consists of 1 Athlon XP 1800 and a P120 Server.
 So I thought I would give distcc a try (maybe not a bad idea :).
 
 What I want is: Everything should be compiled on the fast Athlon
 machine. I got this setup working, but I still have a few questions:
 
 first of all, the relevant parts of make.conf:
 This is on the Athlon:
 
 #distcc
 DISTCC_HOSTS=localhost
 DISTCC_VERBOSE=1
 MAKEOPTS=-j2

Why theese instead ofFEATURES=distcc ?? 
 CC=distcc
 CXX=distcc g++
 
 This is on the P120:
 
 #distcc
 DISTCC_HOSTS=athlon
 DISTCC_VERBOSE=1
 MAKEOPTS=-j4
 CC=distcc
 CXX=distcc g++
 
 
 With this setup, both machines compile on the athlon, but:
 
 - is there any way to shut down the distccd on the P120? When I did 
 this, I didn't get a connection to the Athlon anymore and everything
 was compiled locally (on the P120) again...
 - why is the CPU usage on the Athlon just at about 25% during compiles


Try DISTCC_HOSTS=athlon/10 localhost  (first 10 jobs go to the athlon)


 on the P120. I increased MAKEOPTS to -j4 to get slightly more CPU
 usage, but am not sure this is the best way to get more performance.
it is,  the p120 has to do all the preprocessing, which is a lot in most
c++ code.  Try to even increase it further to -j6 (that should be enough
to keep the athlon going at all times. track the athlons CPU usage for
results)

 
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[gentoo-user] kde problems with dcopserver...

2003-08-07 Thread Al Raq

Hi,

I tried with all possible solutions (google and irc)
to have kde3 starts but in vain.

Every time I try to start kde using kdm or gdm I have
a message saying:

could not read network connection list.
/home/me/.DCOPserver_localhost__0

Please check that the dcopserver program is running.
End of message.


.DCOPserver_localhost__0 does not exist.
gnome works fine but need kmail back ...

I will appreciate your help.
Thanks,


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Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate emails

2003-08-07 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:18, David H. Askew wrote:
 I've noticed that I get duplicate emails on this list from several
 users.  What might be causing this ?

Very probably double posts on their part, or perhaps people are replying to 
you directly and to the list?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-07 Thread Norberto BENSA
Chris I wrote:
 On 2003.08.06 14:56, Norberto BENSA wrote:
  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
   Python is not on the liveCD.
 
  Errr... How does portage runs then?

 correct me if this isnt the case with the new live cds (still using an
 rc1 disc myself), but there is no portage on the livecds either.

 There is portage and python in the stage balls, but that isnt on the
 install cd in a usable form.

Ahhh OK. I didn't download any of the 1.4 era LiveCDs. The only Gentoo CD I 
have is an installation cd version 1.2 :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Young


Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
  I was told this CPU was an XP by my vendor. Why does it not say in the
  model name that it is an XP see cat cpuinfo bellow.
 
  It is currently running redhat and I would like to install Gentoo on it
  but I am wondering which optimization flags I should use?
 
  I was hoping
 
 
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
  CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
 
  would be safe and

 -O2 is safe.

 
  CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3
  -pipe -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
  -frerun-cse-after-loop
  -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
  -ffast-math
  -fprefetch-loop-arrays
  CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

 is simply mad. Read man gcc

http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3opt.html



  Thanks in advance.
 
  This is my cat cpuinfo
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
  processor   : 0
  vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family  : 6
  model   : 6
  model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
  stepping: 2
  cpu MHz : 1110.953
  cache size  : 256 KB
  fdiv_bug: no
  hlt_bug : no
  f00f_bug: no
  coma_bug: no
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 1
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
  mca cmov
  pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
  bogomips: 2215.11
 
 
  I was expecting something more like this
 
 
  cat /proc/cpuinfo:
 
  processor   : 0
  vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family  : 6
  model   : 6
  model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
  stepping: 2
  cpu MHz : 1533.411
  cache size  : 256 KB
  fdiv_bug: no
  hlt_bug : no
  f00f_bug: no
  coma_bug: no
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 1
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
3dnow
  bogomips: 3060.53

 yeah. I bet you have a fsb of 100MHZ.
 XP needs an FSB of 133MHZ.

I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if I
increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me model name
: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ or something similar?



 Glück Auf,
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Re: [gentoo-user] timezone

2003-08-07 Thread Tom Hosiawa
 Did you set whether you are using local or UTC time in /etc/rc.conf?

That was it(CLOCK=local), I tried that before but for some reason
thought the time was wrong again; its good now

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching updates with cron

2003-08-07 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi Thorsten,

Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2003 16:15 schrieb Thorsten Kampe:
 Hi,

 I have a vcron job[1] that syncs the portage tree und afterward
 fetches available updates - at least that's how it is supposed to
 work. The sync works fine and the fetch, too, at least according to
 /var/log/emerge.log[2].

 But actually the .tar.bz never reaches /usr/portage/distfiles, so I
 have to execute emerge -fuD world manually. This happens with all
 updates!

 I even tried to search for the files - with locate - but they're not
 on my harddisk.

 Does anyone have a hint or idea?!


 Thorsten

 [1] 0  */12  *  *  *  root  /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh;
 emerge -fuD world  /dev/null [2] Started emerge on: Aug 07, 2003
 12:14:020

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the '' at the wrong position? Afaik the line 
should read:
0  */12  *  *  *  root  /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh;
emerge -fuD world  /dev/null 
I believe you are forcing your updates straight forward to /dev/null

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:48, Robert Young wrote:
 So

 CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp  is Ok regardless or the FSB speed?


I don't know, but I would change the FSB anyway. It can only become faster 
(assuming your hardware is not faulty and supports it without problem). So, 
check your BIOS settings and tell us whether it works as intended.


Cheers,
Renat


 Renat Golubchyk wrote:
  On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
   Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
 
snip
 
  snip
   I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if
   I increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me model
   name
  
   : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ or something similar?
 
  It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the
  machine: with FSB of 100MHz it showed Athlon 1100MHz, with FSB of
  133MHz it shows AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+.


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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Young
Yep

It seems to be working as advertised. I guess I have been under utilizing this
machine for the last wile.


Thanks for all the help.

Although I am still interested in knowing if the march can be athlon-xp even when
the cpu is not reporting that it is an XP.
Renat Golubchyk wrote:

 On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:48, Robert Young wrote:
  So
 
  CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp  is Ok regardless or the FSB speed?
 

 I don't know, but I would change the FSB anyway. It can only become faster
 (assuming your hardware is not faulty and supports it without problem). So,
 check your BIOS settings and tell us whether it works as intended.

 Cheers,
 Renat

  Renat Golubchyk wrote:
   On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
  
 snip
  
   snip
I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if
I increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me model
name
   
: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ or something similar?
  
   It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the
   machine: with FSB of 100MHz it showed Athlon 1100MHz, with FSB of
   133MHz it shows AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Blackbox

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 14:01, Alexander Futasz wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:06:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is it easy to install Blackbox on a Gentoo system? Is it more stable
  and faster than KDE? Do you suggest me any other GUI?
 
 I would suggest openbox. It looks and performs better than fluxbox or
 blackbox, IMHO.
 
 # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.1
 
 Alex
Alex,
   Hi. I've been pretty happy with fluxbox, but things can always get
better, right?

   How do you measure performance to say it's better?

Thanks,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Install: chroot Illegal Instruction

2003-08-07 Thread Ariel Sandberg
Originally I had downloaded stage1-x86-1.4-20030726.tar.bz2

Today I downloaded stage1-x86-1.4-20030806.tar.bz2.  I think there must of
been something wrong witht the /bin/bash of stage1-x86-1.4-20030726.tar.bz2
tarball.  Could this be?

Well I'm glad to say stage1-x86-1.4-20030806.tar.bz2 does not seem to have
this problem...

Cheers,
Ariel

 -Original Message-
 From: Ariel Sandberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:01 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Install: chroot Illegal Instruction
 
 
 Hi
 
 I'm installing the livecd onto a Pentium 200Mhz MMX system 
 with 160Mb Ram
 8gb hard drive. If  you need more info on system let me know
 
 So I download the x86 basic cd image (~80mb 
 gentoo-basic-1.4-20030803.iso)
 and started to install with this cd.  I downloaded Stage1 tarball and
 extracted it over my /mnt/gentoo.
 
 I follow these steps:
 # mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
 # cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
 # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
 Illegal Instruction
 
 Any Ideas why I would have this problem?  any recomendations?
 
 Thanx
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-07 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:56, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 August 2003 17:59, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
  On Dienstag, 5. August 2003 18:13, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
   Want to work on a project that hundreds (thousands hopefully) will
   use? GLIS (Gentoo Linux Install Script) is looking for a GUI
   programmer to write a custom frontend for Gentoo's installer.  If
   you fit the bill and are interested, please email me :)  Thanks!
(...)
  I am interested - in case you agree that we do it using Qt.
(...)
 Wouldn't something console based be better?  I have a couple of
 servers that really won't take X at all.

Sure, that would be better.
Do you have (n)curses knowledge?
Would you like to do it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Perl hates my linux

2003-08-07 Thread William Kenworthy
I think the reason you have had no replies is that you have given no
information, so its anyones guess what is actually happening.

Billk


On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 13:32, Stephen Turner wrote:
 hey the new perl update or version is causing a conflict with another
 package in my system or something. i sent an email erlyer with no reply im
 having to manualy update other packages to stay decently secure :-p
 atleast i hope lol
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql 4.x

2003-08-07 Thread hwbj
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:18:59PM -0500, downtime null 
 wrote something like this:

 zap reset it, but it's still not really starting. if i run
 '/etc/init.d/mysql start', there is no mysql process started. there
 aren't even any new entries in any log files that i can see from
 trying to start it.


IIRC it's

/etc/init.d/mysqld start




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: etc-update and fstab...

2003-08-07 Thread Steven Elling
On Sunday 03 August 2003 14:59, Spider wrote:
 begin  quote
 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:56:03 -0500

 Steven Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't think passwd should be updated by etc-update.

 Neither Do I.  But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't get it, since
 portage -shouldnt- try to be smart on what files are suggested to
 update and not, but just do its thing, leaving such decisions to root,
 who is capable of doing them.

 portage will not remove a modified configfile (passwd) but will allow
 emerge baselayout, if you tell it to.Trying to be smart in cases
 like this will only lead to confusion and complexity.

 using etc-update is -optional- and a lot of people don't use it, some
 use another system (I know of one script which used vimdiff for
 example, I've seen others with diffstat.)

  OK.  But as I stated in an earlier post, you cannot count on the
  user's system having the same mount / dump options or mount points.
  Neither can you count on a user's system using the same devices for
  the filesystems.  I use SCSI in some system and IDE in others, plus,
  swap space is the first patition on my drives.

 that is why our default fstab has /dev/ROOT and /dev/BOOT, stopping such
 problematic things from happening.  Unfortunately people still think
 that /dev/ROOT is a great harddrive to use, and thus assign it.

  Now, I'm not saying that updates to fstab shouldn't be made.  I'm just
 
  saying the updates should be presented to the user in a different way.

 it is, its presented as /etc/._cfg.fstab

ARRG... forget I even brought it up since no one understands what I 
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Re: [gentoo-user] South Florida Gentoo Users?

2003-08-07 Thread Michael Rasile
On Tue Aug 05, 2003 at 03:01:36PM -0400 or thereabouts, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Hi All,
   Are there any folks on the list in South Florida? The FLUX users group 
 (Florida Linux Users eXchange) is in the middle of a discussion of 
 Gentoo. The posts are generally negative. I think I've been called an 
 elitist (it's a product of misappropriated elitism)
   Perhaps a visit to the FLUX archives would enlighten Gentoo users of 
 what others in the Linux community think about our distro, and perhaps 
 a few could help debunk some of the negative press we're getting there. 
 Here's a link to the thread: 
 http://www.flux.org/pipermail/linux/2003-August/013353.html
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Greetings!
This is a most unfortunate and sad situation. The gentoo irc channel that I
use, irc.freenode.net, is a very positive atmosphere. Gentoo is difficult
enough to learn without negativity. My personal feeling is: if you can't say
anything positive about the distribution, then choose another one. Gentoo
isn't a perfect distribution, but which one is? It has a high learning
curve, but in my experience with my irc chat group on gentoo, everyone has
gone out of their way to help newbies to gentoo. Most of the users on the
site are not new to linux but to gentoo. I have always been treated as an
equal by the group. Again, I would question the purpose of the site you
describe and ask, where are the sysops, can't they control the negativity.
There is nothing wrong with disagreement, but it should lead to
understanding and maybe improvement in certain areas.
Anyway, those are my humble thoughts on the matter. I would also add: how
many of those people who are talking negatively about Gentoo have actually
tried Gentoo? Maybe they tried and couldn't get it to go. It is not the
easiest install in the world. One really needs to follow the install docs to
the letter. Good luck and I sincerely hope things improve.

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[gentoo-user] mysql 4.x

2003-08-07 Thread downtime null
when i recently ran 'emerge -U world', mysql was upgraded to 4.0 which
i'm happy about. the only problem is that it won't start and it won't
stop. when i run '/etc/init.d/mysql start' it says that it's already
running, but when i run '/etc/init.d/mysql stop' it says '[!!]'. and
there is never any mysqld running at any time during that process. i
don't know what happened. i don't know if it ever worked since i
upgraded. i would suspect that it didn't.

so... any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] fltk without xft support?

2003-08-07 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On 07 Aug 2003 05:02:03 -0700
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
I'm asking a question I don't understand and I probably won't
 understand the answer unless it's really basic. Thanks in advance for
 helping. (This is coming from a non-Gentoo application developer using
 my system remotely...)
 
 1) Does the version of fltk installed on my system have xft support
 built in?
 
qpkg -l fltk |grep lib -  ( qpkg is in the gentoolkit package)

Darkmere root # qpkg -l fltk |grep lib -
x11-libs/fltk-1.1.3 *
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk.a
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_forms.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_gl.a
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_gl.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_images.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_forms.so - libfltk_forms.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_forms.a
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_images.a
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_gl.so - libfltk_gl.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk.so - libfltk.so.1.1
/usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_images.so - libfltk_images.so.1.1

Darkmere root # ldd /usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk_forms.so |grep xft -i -
libXft.so.2 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x4001d000)

Darkmere root # ldd /usr/lib/fltk-1.1/libfltk.so.1.1 |grep -i xft -  
libXft.so.2 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40098000)

(grep -i for Ignore CaSe)


Now this tells us it is indeed linking to xft




Then some ldd on the files will show :

 
 2) If it does, is it possible to build a version that has it turned
 off as a test?

Now this is more interesting, and here's how I went about checking
cd /usr/portage/x11-libs/fltk
look inside the fltk-1.1.3.ebuild and youll see :

 local myconf
myconf=--enable-shared --enable-static --enable-threads \
--enable-xdbe --enable-xft


So yes, its enabled.  And an option inside the ebuild. (but not a USE
flag)


 3) If so, how?


change the --enable-xft to --disable-xft

if you want to keep this change over emerge sync then find and read
documentation about PORTAGE_OVERLAY and copy it there.

if not, just do 
ebuild fltk-1.1.3.ebuild merge


And it will build and install.  ldd on the .so and see if it still links
to libXft or not.


hope this helps some in future debugging and digging for help :) (I
figured methodology would help a bit instead of just posting the
answers)


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Re: [gentoo-user] x-chat buttons missing

2003-08-07 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Thursday 07 August 2003 02:51 pm, Kees Bergwerf wrote:
 Op donderdag 7 augustus 2003 23:31, schreef Marius Mauch:
   [T][S][I][P][M][B][L]
 
  The buttons were there with xchat-2.0.0 and not with xchat-2.0.3, so

 Ok! Then I know that is not something that I did wrong :-)
 I need those buttons sometimes..
 They will come back some day I hope :-)

/mode #channel +-[s|i|p|m|l]
/ban user
/topic newtopic

I think that covers them all. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine GUIs that work with GNOME2?

2003-08-07 Thread brett holcomb
Well it does sort of. as far as it's concerned it's new or 
an upgrade.  If it didn't take into account the slot it 
would say D for downgrade.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:28:26 -0400 (EDT)
 Jason A. Pfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm...so it doesn't take the SLOT into account when it's 
determining if 
something is an upgrade or an install?  I guess that's 
why it thinks it's 
upgrading from 2.2.0 to 1.0.5-r3 but it's really a new 
install.  
Hmmm...interesting.  I'm going to try and do an install 
of one of the 
dependency packages to verify that all works well and 
then do the real 
full install of xine-ui and totem if it does.

Thanks for all your help!

--Jason

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, brett holcomb wrote:

It means that this version will go in what it calls SLOT 
1.  It's a way for Gentoo to install different versions 
of 
the same package such as Gnome.  They coexist on the 
system.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:07:02 -0400 (EDT)
  Jason A. Pfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hrm...What does the SLOT=1 in 
gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3.ebuild 
mean?  I'm still 
a little new to gentoo.  I've only be using it for a 
few 
months now.

Thanks!

--Jason

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RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources

2003-08-07 Thread Gwendolyn van der Linden
 p.s.: Do you see an effect of your screen staying dark
 during boot every
 now and then, coming back to live if you switch the console back and
 forth?

No, I have not...

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Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc

2003-08-07 Thread Dr. Robert M. Fuhrer
At 02:03 PM 8/7/2003 -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Thursday 07 August 2003 01:41 pm, Anthony Floyd wrote:
 On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:32:08 -0400

 daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On August 7, 2003 01:05 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote:
   Hi All,
 I just messed up! I blew away my .bashrc. It seems that it might
   be recoverable because my aliases are still working. Any ideas?
 
  i've done this before too.  the way i recovered was (a) copy the
  one in /etc/skel/.bashrc to ~.  if you don't have one (you should)
  copy one from one of the other users.  if your bashrc is custom
  though, i think you're sol.

 Hi Ernie,

 You can recover your aliases like so: alias  aliases.txt.

 But other customizations ... sorry, no help here.

 A
What about typeset -f?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror problem

2003-08-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 07 August 2003 23:15, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:38:50 +

 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Thursday 07 August 2003 22:27, Peter Ruskin wrote:
   On Thursday 07 Aug 2003 23:22, Collins Richey wrote:
I'm not a regular kde user, but with konqueror I get:
   
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
  
   You say you are using the nvidia drivers, so you should have the
   following in /etc/X11/XF86Config:
  
   Section Module
   Load  glx
   EndSection
  
   If you don't, I would guess that would provoke that message.
  
   Peter
 
  funny thing.
 
  I HAVE this in my XF86Config, but after the update to nvidia-glx-4496,
  I get a missing glx error two or three times a day.
 
  example: I play a game of ut2003demo, I return to kde, I want to play
  another game of ut2003demo--- ooops GLX is missing on...
 
  opengl-update nvidia
  /etc/init.d/xdm restart
  .
  .
  (playing a little bit of ut2003demo, or not)
  .
  reboot
 
  login to kde, open a konsole and with a chance of 50% glxinfo returns
  an error, because, jippieh, glx is missing.
 
  I am sick of that.

 Ahah! I have the correct settings, but I, too, get failures with
 glxinfo, so a quick trip to the xfree log (which I almost never peruse)
 reveals:

 (II) LoadModule: glx
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: glDepthBoundsNV
 (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 (II) UnloadModule: glx

 I'll repeat opengl-update again and try once more when a download
 finishes.


Hi, I just got curios and had a look into /usr/lib
There were some libGL and libGLcore files from nvidia 4396.
I removed them, emerged 4496 again, did opengl-update and started X.

I have still to play ut, but glxinfo does not show errors.

Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] mkinitrd

2003-08-07 Thread Shane Hickey
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:33:36 +0200
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In most cases, you don't even need an initrd.

However, if you really want an initrd, check out genkernel (it's in
portage).  It's a fancy little script to help you compile your kernel. 
I was monkeying around with it and I noticed that it built an initrd for
my kernel choices.

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[gentoo-user] Strange error

2003-08-07 Thread Makurin Roman
After sync i`ve got strange error:


sudo /usr/bin/emerge -vpUD world
 --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options.

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-libs/db-4.1 have been masked.
!!!(dependency required by net-nds/openldap-2.1.22 [ebuild])

!!! Problem with ebuild app-arch/rpm-4.2_pre069
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge downgraded glibc and now I can't emerge.

2003-08-07 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 14:14, Ming-Che Lee wrote:
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 Hi!
 
 On Tuesday, 5. August 2003 12:05 spiff.devotion wrote:
 
  Well, emerge installed glibc-2.3.1-r4 anyway, and now I can't use
  emerge anymore, since the python installed on my system required
  glibc-2.3.2.
 
 Have a look at this thread in the forums: 
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=68195highlight=

Got beaten as well, here below is the tip Sirron gave me to sort out the mess.
It worked fine for me. Hope it helps.

==
Hello Frederic.

Here is how I recovered.

First I found the python source in the /usr/portage/distfile. 
Python-2.2.2.tgz also Python-2.2.3.tgz should work also. And if you 
don't have it in the distfile, just download it directly from pythons
site.

then untar the file into /tmp (or whatever temp location you want).  
next go to the python directory you just created with the untar, and do 
the ./configure --prefix=/usr command. you must use the 
--prefix=/usr in order to override the standard location of python. I 
forgot this many times, but someone corrected me and that makes it work.

Then do make, and make install (you can also do make test before 
make install if you want).

After that, you must rescue your portage. go to 
/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files.

you will see a file named portage-rescue-2.0.47-r10-x86.tbz2. Issue this
command (exactly)

tar -xjpUvf portage-rescue-2.0.47-r10-x86.tbz2 -C /

you will be overlaying /usr/portage but that is exactly what you want to
do. And dont forget the / because you are untarring into root  (/)

immediately issue emerge rsync (it will complain at the end, but 
that's ok) and then emerge python and finally emerge portage

Steps in brief (you may need some slight changes depending on location 
of the Python source file:

cd /tmp
tar -xzvf /usr/portage/distfile/Python-2.2.2.tgz
cd Python-2.2.2
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make test
make install
cd /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files
tar -xjpUvf portage-rescue-2.0.47-r10-x86.tbz2 -C /
emerge rsync
emerge python
emerge portage

I hope this works for you. Let me know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wanted: GUI programmer (GLIS)

2003-08-07 Thread Riyad Kalla
I think everyone agrees the solution is to implement it with Java/Swing

crawls under desk and hides

Nathaniel McCallum wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In this case why do you think about a bash script backend instead of a
nice little C (or C++) program?  Since we are talking about a Gentoo
installer - not a platform independent thingie - we can safely assume
that the needed libraries for a real program are there, so what would
be the advantage of a bash script?


Also, why not python?  I know that RedHat's installer (anaconda) is in
python, and it is pretty nice...
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 kernel - Cannot open Eterm

2003-08-07 Thread Zack Gilburd
On Thursday 07 August 2003 12:48 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
  Hello
 
  I'm running 2.6.0_beta2 kernel.  In enlightenment I can open Xterms
  but not Eterms.  If I type Eterm in Xterm I get the following error
  message.

 Well.  Yet again I am in that perplexed frame of mind where my problem
 has been solved by the most unlikely of actions.  I re-emerged X and
 eterm and now I have a terminal.  What difference could the re-emerges
 possibly have made towards the kernel?  And why can't getting a terminal
 be as simple as compiling and booting off a kernel rather than making a
 series of four or five changes?  I guess I'll let 2.6 stabilise before I
 reanalyse the situation.

 I'll stop whilst I can in this reflective mood.

 Thanks for your help Jason.

 With regards.
 Dhruba Bandopadhyay.

You forgot to enable PTY and other terminal support.  Unfortunately, the 2.6 
default configs do not have these features enabled by default, IIRC.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gthumb issues

2003-08-07 Thread drewbian
Hi, 

Not exactly a fix but I have found gqview to be a suitable alternative
to gthumb.

drewbian

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 07:16, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
 Is anyone else having issues with gthumb?  No matter what I try, gthumb 
 refuses to show its image preview window.  I have the preference selected 
 and the window layout set up to show it but it never shows.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this?  Is this an issue with the gentoo ebuild 
 for gthumb?
 
 I've got gthumb-2.1.1.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc

2003-08-07 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Thursday 07 August 2003 01:41 pm, Anthony Floyd wrote:
 On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:32:08 -0400

 daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On August 7, 2003 01:05 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote:
   Hi All,
 I just messed up! I blew away my .bashrc. It seems that it might
   be recoverable because my aliases are still working. Any ideas?
 
  i've done this before too.  the way i recovered was (a) copy the
  one in /etc/skel/.bashrc to ~.  if you don't have one (you should)
  copy one from one of the other users.  if your bashrc is custom
  though, i think you're sol.

 Hi Ernie,

 You can recover your aliases like so: alias  aliases.txt.

 But other customizations ... sorry, no help here.

 A


Bless you Anthony. My aliases thank you. This is why I love Gentoo. 
There are actually people on the list who know Linux. With Windows, a 
bone headed stunt like that probably would have meant a reinstall.
At least I knew enough not to reboot w/o a working bashrc. Thanks to 
you too Daniel. I knew that there had to be a bashrc somewhere but 
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[gentoo-user] Upgrading to 1.4?

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Renouf
How can I upgrade to 1.4 without starting from scratch? I'd like the 
features added in the latest release, like automated kernel 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine GUIs that work with GNOME2?

2003-08-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
As I understand it the ebuild will set conditions on what it needs to have 
built (the dependencies).  Just doing -u will say it has the latest.  To 
emerge previous versions you have to use the path /usr/portage/... .


 I understand.  It was just a little confusing.  Now I understand how it
 works.  I tried to manually install that version and it wouldn't let me.
 I tried to emerge -u libglade and it said that there was no upgrade.
 Then, I tried to emerge it and it wanted to re-merge the installed one.
 Then I tried emerge libglade-0.17-r6 and it said that there was no such
 ebuild.  So it will only do this to satisfy non-conflicting dependencies?

 I'm installing totem now.

 Thanks!

 --Jason

 On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, brett holcomb wrote:
  Well it does sort of. as far as it's concerned it's new or
  an upgrade.  If it didn't take into account the slot it
  would say D for downgrade.
 
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:28:26 -0400 (EDT)
 
Jason A. Pfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hmmm...so it doesn't take the SLOT into account when it's
  determining if
  something is an upgrade or an install?  I guess that's
  why it thinks it's
  upgrading from 2.2.0 to 1.0.5-r3 but it's really a new
  install.
  Hmmm...interesting.  I'm going to try and do an install
  of one of the
  dependency packages to verify that all works well and
  then do the real
  full install of xine-ui and totem if it does.
  
  Thanks for all your help!
  
  --Jason
  
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, brett holcomb wrote:
   It means that this version will go in what it calls SLOT
   1.  It's a way for Gentoo to install different versions
  of
   the same package such as Gnome.  They coexist on the
   system.
  
   On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:07:02 -0400 (EDT)
  
 Jason A. Pfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hrm...What does the SLOT=1 in
  
  gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3.ebuild
  
   mean?  I'm still
   a little new to gentoo.  I've only be using it for a
  
  few
  
   months now.
   
   Thanks!
   
   --Jason
   
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RE: [gentoo-user] resiserfs

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Knecht

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Subject: [gentoo-user] resiserfs


 Just wondering if anyone else has had bad experience with reiserfs.


No, I've used reiserfs on multiple systems for about 8 months. I have had no
problems with reiserfs under Gentoo or Redhat. It's worked great for me.

Possibly something about the drivers triggers misoperation in your specific
hard disk controllers? What sort of machine are you having these problems
on? All of my reiser machines (6 total?) are Athlon or Athlon XP with Via
chipsets. I have enabled Via chipset support in my kernels.

Best of luck finding the answer.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Idea

2003-08-07 Thread Gentoo
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eList,

Hi everybody..

Every time I use emerge -S to look for something I've got to wait an eternity 
for results to appear.. so  I feed up with this and I was thinking to 
turn the whole portage system (the pseudo database I mean) into mysql, what 
do you think about that?

As far I could see It's not so hard to translate. In this moment I'm writing 
a bash script (no pyhton knowledge sorry) to try to full the mysql database 
with the portage data.

And obviusly the benefits are a lot.

So.. I'm expecting your thoughts about this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fetching updates with cron

2003-08-07 Thread Chris I
On 2003.08.07 12:57, Thorsten Kampe wrote:

[1] FETCHCOMMAND='/usr/bin/proz -r --no-netrc --no-getch --no-search
-k=4 --timeout=300 -t=5 --retry-delay=15 --max-bps=0 ${URI} -P
${DISTDIR}'
Did you try checking to see if ${DISTDIR} is a valid variable outside 
of portage? Try a cron script that does something like:

echo ${DISTDIR} | mail -s distdir check myemailaddress;

or even

env | mail -s env myemailaddress;

I think that this was an invalid destination, so the download completed 
and it saved them to nowhere. Try replacing it and manually entering 
the /usr/portage/distfiles path.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge downgraded glibc and now I can't emerge.

2003-08-07 Thread Ming-Che Lee
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Hi!

On Tuesday, 5. August 2003 12:05 spiff.devotion wrote:

 Well, emerge installed glibc-2.3.1-r4 anyway, and now I can't use
 emerge anymore, since the python installed on my system required
 glibc-2.3.2.

Have a look at this thread in the forums: 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=68195highlight=

Best regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc questions

2003-08-07 Thread Ole Langbehn
Spider wrote:

#distcc
DISTCC_HOSTS=localhost
DISTCC_VERBOSE=1
MAKEOPTS=-j2
   

Why theese instead ofFEATURES=distcc ?? 
 

CC=distcc
CXX=distcc g++
   

you mean the lines above or below? I'm guessing the CC and CXX lines. 
Cause I already have distcc in FEATURES.

With this setup, both machines compile on the athlon, but:

- is there any way to shut down the distccd on the P120? When I did 
this, I didn't get a connection to the Athlon anymore and everything
was compiled locally (on the P120) again...
- why is the CPU usage on the Athlon just at about 25% during compiles
   



Try DISTCC_HOSTS=athlon/10 localhost  (first 10 jobs go to the athlon)

good hint, but can I shutdown the distccd on the p120 or does it have to 
run? I guess it does.


And off-list. 
Would you -PLEASE- stop staring new threads by pressing reply to and
then erasing everything inside the message?  your email was just sent as
it was a reply to the gentoo-sources thread.  
Silly me. Sorry...
Oh, there is a threaded view in mozilla :) nice...


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