RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo killed my pc

2003-10-09 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
To Test if the Powersupply is bad:

1) Remove PSU from the case all together.

2) Look at the ATX connector, there will be a Green wire. Short this wire to
ground with a small wire or conductive material (paperclip, etc)

3) If you have a voltmeter handy, Voltages on the ATX supply should read as
follows (around %5 tolerance)
Orange +3.3v
Yellow +12v
Red +5v

PIN SIGNAL PIN SIGNAL 
1 3.3V 11 3.3V 
2 3.3V 12 -12V 
3 GND 13 GND 
4 5V 14 PS_ON 
5 GND 15 GND 
6 5V 16 GND 
7 GND 17 GND 
8 PW_OK 18 -5V 
9 5V_SB 19 5V 
10 12V 20 5V 


However, the powersupply could very well show correct voltages on the bench,
but in the case and under load it will fail. Checking power while the
computer is on and running wouldn't be the best thing for your componants
either.


Also, saying you're having problems isnt any more helpful than saying help
X doesn't work.  I had a drive that was clicking. Thought it was DOA so I
returned it, the second one did the same. No its not Windows XP or Gentoo's
fault. It was my faulty power supply. 

CPU overheating? If you have a decent heatsink (Even the OEM AMD heatsinks
are good enough), did you use thermal grease? This makes a HUGE difference,
much more than one would realize.

Northbridge and RAM overheating is a heat issue in the case (needs more air
flow).

Ramdom Lockups in X (or Windows) not caused by overheating CPU are caused by
overheating Video card or crappy video drivers. Check to see if the card is
hot to the touch when it locks up.


A faulty power supply can cause any/all of the above.

A Note on choosing your power supply.

Don't go blindly with the biggest 500w power supply you can find. Research a
high quality supply and it will never fail you. Many power supply companies
still use the old ATX power distribution standard of having like, 50amps on
the +3.3 and 5v rails, and like, 10 amps on the +12v. The problem with this
is although it worked fine for the 3.3 and 5v chips like the old Pentium
II's and 3, for the new AMD XP and Pentium 4 chips, they rely on the +12v
rail. An XP 2500 can draw up to 7 amps of current from your 12v rail!.
Combine that with the current that other 12v devices such as fans and
harddrives use up, you can quickly saturate and fry your 12v rail out of
your powersupply.

In general, find the ps that has the largest capacity +12v rail you can
afford.
Antec makes very nice powersupplys. The True430 is a definite winner.
http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/true430_spe.html

This is the one I have, 
http://www.directron.com/4fanpsu.html 
The blue one. Made by a company called TTGI , I've put this under serious
stress.

6 harddrives (two 120 gig IDE, 4 80gig SATA :D ), CD-RW/ DVD 4 sticks of
ram, geforce 4, Xp 3200. 8 .25amp fans, 3 case lights

The last thing I swear !!
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/guides/power_supply/


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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM

2003-10-08 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
soulfly gentoo # du -sh distfiles/
22Gdistfiles

That's a lot of CD's 

If you get rid of dups you might be able to shave 5-6 gigs off there.

You will also have to get a copy of the rsync tree that you will need to use
and not update the tree.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pietro Leone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:07 AM
 To: ML-GentooUser
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM
 
 
 Hallo, a friend of mine (a crazy one ;-) want to download for 
 me all the gentoo packages and put them into CD-ROMs. Is it 
 possible? How can I use these CDs? Portage can manage CDs as 
 sources of packages, as apt of Debian does? (Of course 
 without copyng all packages into my HDD). What is the address 
 to use in order to download packages?
 
 Thanks, Pietro.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM

2003-10-08 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Sorry forgot something,

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml

Pick a mirror and go into the gentoo/distfiles and download
 -Original Message-
 From: Pietro Leone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:07 AM
 To: ML-GentooUser
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Gentoo CD-ROM
 
 
 Hallo, a friend of mine (a crazy one ;-) want to download for 
 me all the gentoo packages and put them into CD-ROMs. Is it 
 possible? How can I use these CDs? Portage can manage CDs as 
 sources of packages, as apt of Debian does? (Of course 
 without copyng all packages into my HDD). What is the address 
 to use in order to download packages?
 
 Thanks, Pietro.
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[gentoo-user] RE: [gentoo-dev] Migrating to a commercial PHP-based forums package for forums.gentoo.org

2003-09-28 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Open Source/GPL , free meaning no $$ needed, or gotta-pay for it, it doesn't
matter as long as the tool you're using is the right tool for the job.

If you insist on using the wrong tools ONLY because you think it is
un-ethical to use non-free software, you should reconsider your priorities.

After all, if you had to rent a specific tool (i.e. ball-joint splitter) to
work on your car, or use what common tools (i.e. a hammer) you have laying
around your house, what would you do ?



 Another option is to migrate to an alternate forums package.  
 Specifically, vBulletin, which has proven to be quite 
 scalable and effective with larger sites.  The main drawback 
 to this is the fact that it is a commercial software package, 
 which tends to raise the ire of some of the more zealous GNU 
 folks out there.
 
 So, my question to you is, how would you feel if we were to 
 do this? Horribly offended?  Saddened because there isn't a 
 GPL'd program to meet our needs, but pragmatic about the need 
 to do *something*?  Or C, none of the above?
 
 Basically, the choice comes down to one of two things:
 
 1) Lose some older posts and stay on a GPL-compatible package
 2) Move to a commercial solution and keep all the posts.
 
 Note that vBulletin *is* open source in that you have access 
 to the source code and can modify it.  It's just not Free.
 
 Finally, to keep this process somewhat manageably, I ask that 
 you make your responses on the forums.  I've also set up a 
 poll there so we can vote on what should be done.  I will 
 likely limit my responses to that discussion.
 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=554174

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RE: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue

2003-08-21 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
USE=apache2 emerge mod_php

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue
 
 
 
 I emerged mod_php and apache2, but can't seem to get mod_php 
 working.  I found 
 some posts on the Gentoo forums that say to uncomment
 
 APACHE_OPTS=-D PHP4
 
 in
 
 /etc/conf.d/apache2
 
 but I don't see it there to uncomment it.  I tried just 
 adding it but got 
 errors on restart.
 
 Can someone send me a url for apache2 + mod_php ?
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue

2003-08-21 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
As said, its not documented in a normal sense, but if you use ufed (emerge
ufed) to edit use flags, you will see apache2 as a use flag.

If you use -v along with the -p (pretend) flag, you will see apache2 as a
use flag,

I've gotten into the habbit of ALWAYS doing, 
emerge -pv package 

That will show you what flags are avialable for that specific package
Example,

soulfly root # emerge -pv mod_php

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2-r4 [4.3.2-r3] -apache2 -X +crypt -curl
-firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external -gdbm -imap -informix -ipv6 -java
+jpeg +ldap -mcal -memlimit +mysql +nls -oci8 -odbc +pam +pdflib +png
-postgres -qt +snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2




  USE=apache2 emerge mod_php
 
 Great, but where is this documented?
 
 I hate asking questions if I can read some docs first.  I'm 
 sure I must have 
 just overlooked the docs for this.
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
 So, If I like to buy a new motherboard and a new HD, what 
 should I buy? Assume that I would like to get the best a 
 person might expect from a home computer.


Another issue holding back IDE performance is that the IDE bus is sometimes
tied into the PCI bus which is limited to 128mb/sec (give or take).

Everything that's on that bus will fight for that limited bandwidth (i.e.
USB, sound, NIC cards, whatever)

Some of the newer motherboard have the IDE channels on their own bus path.
Even though it isnt THAT linux friendly, the new nForce 2 chips use AMD's
hypertransport technology to provide the IDE bus with FAR greater bandwidth
that the PCI bus can obtain (~800mb/sec).

Some benchmarks from my...
AMD 2500XP,
2x512 PC3200 in Dual Channel mode,
Asus A7N8X Deluxe,
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm
Windows XP :) 

WD1200JB on IDE channel
(the lower read speeds on the 512 and 1024mb where due to me accidently
starting Quake3 )
http://underthemain.net/~sweede/bench/bench_1.jpg

Dual WD800JBs on SATA, RAID-0
(small file)
http://underthemain.net/~sweede/bench/bench3.JPG
(large file)
http://underthemain.net/~sweede/bench/bench2.JPG


The Western Digital drives are amazing. Newer Intel motherboards have build
in, native SATA channels (meaning you can boot a dos floppy and see the
harddrive). I would look into those and other modern equipment. Research at
www.firingsquad.com , they usually have great hardware reviews.

Just keep a watch out for linux compat. :)

A good site for nForce 2 on linux,
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=29
Don't know of one for the newer intel-based motherboards, sorry.

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RE: [gentoo-user] 1.4 grp, emerge problems

2003-08-10 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Have you mounted / copied the contents of /packages/All to
/usr/portage/packages/All ??

-Original Message-
From: D.J. Bolderman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:05 PM
To: gentoo-user
Subject: [gentoo-user] 1.4 grp, emerge problems

I've just downloaded the first 1.4 live-cd to install on my laptop. I
don't have an internet connection on this computer yet, so I have
unpacked the portage snapshot which was on the cdrom. I followed the
install guide, and now I'm at the point to install the kernel. 

When I enter emerge -k sys-kernel/gentoo-sources, it wants to grab
linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2 off the net. This also happens with genkernel
package. The ebuild is in my portage dir, but still gentoo wants to
download it.

Did I miss something ?

Thanks, 
Dick

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RE: [gentoo-user] Oops forgot subject - SSLeay doesnt see OpenSSL

2003-07-26 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
I filed a bug for this this morning.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25319

I worked around it by, 
ebuild /usr/portage/dev-perl/Net-SSLeay/Net-SSLeay-1.22.ebuild unpack
cd /var/tmp/portage/Net-SSLeay-1.22/work/Net_SSLeay.pm-1.22/
./Makefile.PL -t
Touch ../.compiled
ebuild /usr/portage/dev-perl/Net-SSLeay/Net-SSLeay-1.22.ebuild merge

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 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:56 PM
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 Subject: [gentoo-user] Oops forgot subject - SSLeay doesnt see OpenSSL
 
 
 Whenever I try to emerge SSLeay I get this error:
 
 
 Checking for OpenSSL-0.9.6g or newer...
 I could not find your OpenSSL in `INSTALLDIRS=vendor'
 Please provide OpenSSL-0.9.6g installation directory (get 
 from http://www.openssl.org/ if you don't have it; please 
 note that  SSLeay is no longer supported, see README) (C-c to abort):
 
 
 I have OpenSSL 0.9.6j installed and have tried to set it to 
 look in /usr/bin where the openssl executable is but no dice. 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Why does PHP has dependency with QT ????

2003-07-16 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
I don't have the original post anymore, but the statement below is
incorrect, PHP uses a vararity of libraries which include gd, jpeg, libpng,
ming, imlib and imagemagik

  PHP has many functions used manipulate images, if your 
 wanting to use 
  Gallery
  for example, it used qt amongst other libs to upload, 
 resize and alter your 
  pics.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.qtdom.php

The qtdom extension requires QT  2.2.0 , but is very experimental and isnt
even documented in the php source. I would see no reason why we cant just
get rid of its dependency all together (comment it out even).


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RE: [gentoo-user] Build own distfiles mirror

2003-07-13 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
The distfiles directory is around 15 gigs, you can save a LOT of space if
you exclude many of the larger files like UT2k3, OpenOffice (there are
several versions), the KDE i18n stuff and all of the Linux kernels (the
ebuilds download the kernel packages from kernel.org anyways). Check the
rsync manual for how to exclude files.

Although what you plan on doing seems like a good idea. Emerge will just
skip any packages that havent been upgraded anyways.

 -Original Message-
 From: Spida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Build own distfiles mirror
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I want to setup a Gentoo Mirror for an install at my local
 Linux-User-Group (They have only ISDN/64kbit Inet).
 I did read that docs on this, and whereas the docs for setting up
 the rsync part of the mirror are ok, information on the
 distfiles-part isn't that complete.
 In the docs is mentioned that the distfiles mirror will be around
 30-40GB, but in the Forums I read something about 3-4GB.
 Is there a method to choose just a specific subset of packages?
 Like only the highest stable version, if there is no stable, the
 highest unstable version?
 Or should I do something like:
 
 for i in /usr/portage do
 for j in /usr/portage/$i do
 emerge -f $j;
 done
 done
 
 As for the download, it doesn't matter if its 1Gb or 40GB, as I
 have an agreement with to get local lan access to one of the
 mirrors.
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge go crazy

2003-07-12 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
They've moved apache 2.0 and MySQL 4.0 from ~x86 to stable, so any update
will update both of these.

MySQL 4.0 isnt a big deal, much has changed but most everything in the
databases still works properly, you will need to re-emerge PHP and any thing
else that relies on MySQL

Apache though, I think that was a HUGE mistake moving that to stable and
having it replace the Apache 1.3.27 series

If you don't want apache 2.0, (neither do i) I think porotage looks for an
/etc/portage/package_mask (? Search the forums/mailing lists for the exact
filename) file, add =apache-2.0.10 to it 

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 right now I took a emerge -DUp world and found something disturbing.
 [ebuildU ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.13-r3 [3.23.57]
 [ebuildU ] net-www/apache-2.0.47 [1.3.27-r3]
 
 why the hell would I upgrade my apache 1.3x to 2.0x?
 and mysql 3x to 4x. Not until I decide anyway.
 
 Can anyone please tell me why this is suddenly happening?
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement

2003-07-12 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
1) emerge gentoolkit

qpkg does that 

Note, that in debian, apt-* doesn't show what packages are installed, you
need to query dpkg. Also, apt-* are front-ends to dpkg and its many tools.

emerge info in gentoo currently reports Portage configuration information.

2) Gentoo network installation (PXE) HOWTO 
http://www.menteb.org/docs.php?doc=pxe

I don't have enough extra boxes laying around to try out the network
install, but I have faith in the author of that how to that it works :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement
 
 
 Some suggestions:
 
 1. emerge is missing one key function -- I say key, because we can't
consider deploying Gentoo as the OS of choice for x86 
 servers unless
it has this feature: the ability to see what ebuilds were installed
on the system and what version they are.
 
Package management is extremely important to us in the server arena
because it represents the bulk of our long-term 
 maintenance for both
by hand and with our extensive automated tools which 
 figures out what
stuff to install based on what currently is installed. 
 Currently, the
argument is to use Debian instead of Gentoo because of missing bits
related to package management such as this. I suck at coding or I'd
contribute something, but I could take a shot at it.
 
Perhaps consider a command such as 'emerge info' to list one-liners
listing all installed ebuilds and their versions? And 'emerge info
specific ebuild' to view info for a specific ebuild. And 
 some sort
of wildcard support such as 'emerge info foo*' to return info about
all installed ebuilds matching the wildcard pattern.
 
For the most part, I think you've already got code in 
 emerge to figure
out what ebuilds are installed and at what version... 
 could adapt it
to also be used for an 'emerge info' function.
 
 2. The only other thing we're missing with Gentoo is a 
 network boot/install
server -- we already have AIX's NIM, Solaris's Jumpstart, RedHat's
KickStart. Even Windows and MacOS has something. :) With 
 the number of
sites and servers we run, this is a crucial bit of functionality.
 
Since that functionality is generally generic -- support tftp, etc.
...it sounds theoretically simple to support this one way 
 or another.
I wonder if RedHat's KickStart stuff could be ported to Gentoo? I
hesitate to suggest this, but I'm also hesitant to suggest 
 something
that would chew up developers' time by doing something 
 from scratch.
 
Gentoo's got a firm hold on the desktop... and getting 
 there with the
hardened project for the high security stuff... but could 
 get a bigger
chunk of the servers.
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for improvement

2003-07-12 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
 
 Cool! I'll give it a try. Thanks for the update/corrections :)
 

Hey, Us gentoo users, we rock like that :)


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RE: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo Newbie] Silraid and kernel versions

2003-07-03 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Use the gs-sources or ac-sources

Gentoo-sources (which is based off of 2.4.20) doesn't have the Sii raid
controller driver yet

 -Original Message-
 From: Derek Clarkson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Subject: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo Newbie] Silraid and kernel versions
 
 
 Hi guys,
   I'm trying to load 1.4rc4. The iso image I boot from 
 appears to be a 2.4.21 
 kernel and has the necessary silraid driver I need for the 
 sil3112 SATA 
 controller on my mobo. However when I download the stage 1 
 files, they appear 
 to be a 2.4.20 kernel without the silraid driver.
 
 Have I got this right and how do I get the later code ?
 
 
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[gentoo-user] Distfiles getting to large ?

2003-06-19 Thread Bjorn Sodergren

I was thinking about this a while ago, and currently the /distfiles/
repository has around 10,000 files. Wouldn't it be a good idea to start
thinking about re-organizing it? Right now the apache generated HTML = file
is over 2 megs!=20

One thing I was thinking would be to place packages in their portage
catagories.

For instance, all of the kernel packages (linux-2.x.y.tar.bz2's) will go
into=20 /sys-kernel/

All of the files that the kde ebuilds call for would go in=20 /kde-base/
 =20
Any patches for programs could go into either

/patches/sys-kernel  (I think this is a prefered method)
Or=20
/sys-kernel/patches=20


A couple of obvious problems would be the re-organizing files, but that
could be scripted seemingly easily. The problem would be propogating it = to
the rest of the distfiles servers. I wouldn't think the ebuilds = themselves
would be a problem. You would just need to change

SRC_URI=3Dmirror://gentoo/${P}.tbz2 to
SRC_URI=3Dmirror://gentoo/${CATEGORY}/${P}.tbz2

In any ebuilds that download packages from a distfiles mirror (I've =
noticed items like the kernel sources don't)

Anyone else have any pros/cons to such a task?


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RE: [gentoo-user] Distfiles getting to large ?

2003-06-19 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Perhaps I should of posted this on the dev list...

I wasn't refering to /usr/portage/distfiles, but
http://foo.com/gentoo/distfiles

Creating a directory index on that server for people who just happen to
browse to /distfiles/ must be rough.

It might also help in cleaning up old or un-needed files in /distfiles/ on
the mirrors.


 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Smart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Distfiles getting to large ?
 
 
 I saw a option someplace that stated how much HD space 
 (max) would 
 be consumed, and that was set to 2G, so yes there could be 
 many files in 
 there, seeing as the Kernel is 30megs...
 
 
 
 Bjorn Sodergren wrote:
 
 I was thinking about this a while ago, and currently the /distfiles/ 
 repository has around 10,000 files. Wouldn't it be a good 
 idea to start 
 thinking about re-organizing it? Right now the apache 
 generated HTML = 
 file is over 2 megs!=20
 
 One thing I was thinking would be to place packages in their portage 
 catagories.
 
 For instance, all of the kernel packages 
 (linux-2.x.y.tar.bz2's) will 
 go into=20 /sys-kernel/
 
 All of the files that the kde ebuilds call for would go 
 in=20 /kde-base/
  =20
 Any patches for programs could go into either
 
 /patches/sys-kernel  (I think this is a prefered method)
 Or=20
 /sys-kernel/patches=20
 
 
 A couple of obvious problems would be the re-organizing 
 files, but that 
 could be scripted seemingly easily. The problem would be 
 propogating it 
 = to the rest of the distfiles servers. I wouldn't think the 
 ebuilds = 
 themselves would be a problem. You would just need to change
 
 SRC_URI=3Dmirror://gentoo/${P}.tbz2 to 
 SRC_URI=3Dmirror://gentoo/${CATEGORY}/${P}.tbz2
 
 In any ebuilds that download packages from a distfiles 
 mirror (I've = 
 noticed items like the kernel sources don't)
 
 Anyone else have any pros/cons to such a task?
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] kernel: built-in vs. module

2003-06-18 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Just my opinion, unless you change hardware a lot, I don't think there is an
advantage.

Some things though, like I2c support, you want as modules because you might
not be sure which one your hardware supports and you can auto-detect it.


 I've been using linux full time for about 6 months now, but I 
 haven't found anything on the pros and cons of compiling the 
 kernel with features built-in vs built as modules? What are 
 the advantages of either case?
 
 curious,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Laptop with usb cdrom and no floppy

2003-06-12 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=57754

Do you have another system to do this with?? Or maybe you can get the topic
creator to link you to his.

 -Original Message-
 From: The Doctor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of Jon Fox
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Laptop with usb cdrom and no floppy
 
 
 I've got gentoo running since January on my old HP Omnibook, 
 but I just for a Dell D400 at work (light and small) 
 and want to kill off WinXP. However, I need to be able to 
 boot up something on the new machine which has no ide or 
 scsi cdrom... just a usb cdrom. 
 
 I can't seem to get my gentoo disk to boot properly as the 
 mounting doesn't want to use a usb cdrom on the LiveCD.
 
 I get:
 mount: Mounting /newroot/dev/cdroms/* on
 /newroot/mnt/cdrom failed: No such file or directory.
 
 -- CD Not found
 
 and I have a busybox prompt. But no modules that seem to give 
 scsi simulation and thus can't mount the cdrom. 
 
 Unless somebody has a better suggestion on how to get a 
 working filesystem, I'm going to try a debian install and 
 bootstrap from there.
 
 -- Jon/mycr0ft
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge runs amok

2003-06-10 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Emerge is only trying to remove old packages that where installed via stage2
process that where upgraded by emerge --update world|system . 

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge runs amok
 
 
 I had some porblems with my system, and some files got 
 deleted. I fixed this 
 by untarring the stage2 tarball and running 'emerge system'. Now 
 unfortunately, emerge wants to remove vital things from my 
 system. This is 
 what happens after I do an emerge portage:
 
 Recalculating the counter... Counter updated successfully.
  Clearing invalid entries in dependancy cache... ...done!
 ccache
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  sys-apps/portage-2.0.48-r1 merged.
 
  sys-apps/portage
 selected: none
protected: 2.0.48-r1
  omitted: none
 
  clean: No packages selected for removal.
 
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  Auto-cleaning packages ...
 
  sys-apps/baselayout
 selected: 1.8.5.8
protected: 1.8.5.9
  omitted: none
 
  sys-devel/gcc-config
 selected: 1.3.1-r1
protected: 1.3.3-r1
  omitted: none
 
  sys-apps/sed
 selected: 4.0.6
protected: 4.0.7
  omitted: none
 
  Packages in red are slated for removal.
  Packages in green will not be removed.
 
  Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
  (Control-C to abort)...
  Unmerging in: 5 4 Killed
 
 
 How do I make it stop doing this? It does this every time I 
 emerge a package.
 
 Thanks,
 Larry
 
 
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RE: [gentoo-user] php 4.3.2 virtual/mta

2003-06-08 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
I think the php eclass should have information to detect what mta is
actually in use and where the proper sendmail compatible binary is and
during postinstall, modify the php.ini. Or simply not have the check for
/usr/sbin/sendmail. 

It makes sense on doing the check for /usr/sbin/sendmail as it would resolve
some 'I cant send mail via php' issues. However actually trying to emerge
php seems to have caused a new problem that doesn't need to be.


 Well, for the record... ln -s /usr/bin/nbsmtp 
 /usr/sbin/sendmail did the job.  Are we saying that the 
 ebuild should be modified to provide this linkage automatically?


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RE: [gentoo-user] php 4.3.2 virtual/mta

2003-06-07 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
Php does not require sendmail, you can use Qmail, postfix, exim or any other
sendmail compatible mailer. You would then need to change the php.ini to
reflect the location of the sendmail compatible binary (Qmail automaticly
(or should) symlinks /var/qmail/bin/sendmail to /usr/lib/sendmail).

You can also configure PHP to use SMTP as its mailer. Even though the
php.ini file says that is a win32 setting, it does work in Linux.

That said, a look in eclass/php.eclass we find 
 [ -x /usr/sbin/sendmail ] || die You need a virtual/mta that provides
/usr/sbin/sendmail!

Perhaps the issues are not php related but a problem with the MTA ebuild we
are using.

Creating a the correct symlink should fix the problem

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul de Vrieze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] php 4.3.2 virtual/mta
 
 
 On Saturday 07 June 2003 15:24, Mike Arrison wrote:
  Gentooers,
  Anybody else see this recently?
 
  !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.2 failed.
  !!! Function php_src_compile, Line 211, Exitcode 1
  !!! You need a virtual/mta that provides /usr/sbin/sendmail
 
  My /var/cache/edb/virtuals contains an mta line as follows:
 
  virtual/mta net-mail/nbsmtp net-mail/ssmtp
 
  Don't tell me that php _needs_ sendmail in particular.
 
 For the mail functionality of php (and many other 
 applications) sendmail is 
 needed indeed. If you don't care about mail capability in php 
 you could use 
 --nodeps to have php build anyway.
 
 Paul
 
 ps. Not that dev-php/php is the standalone php interpreter, 
 NOT the apache 
 module
 
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 Paul de Vrieze
 Researcher
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 Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
 


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