RE: [gentoo-user] buildpkg + moving packages
I'm maintaining 3 p3 computers, and i would like to compile stuff on one of them (using --buildpkg also) and then make the others use that package than compiling the whole thing again (although i'm using distcc). How can I publish that package for the others to use it ? Can I use apache on the compiling machine and from the others something like PORTAGE_BINHOST=http://compiling.machine.com/ packages/All ? Any other ideas ? How can I move a package from the compiling machine to a machine that does not have network installed ? (in what directory? what files ?). What parameters will I use for emerge on the not-compiling machines ( -g ? -K? any other ?) ? I nfs partition my /usr/portage.. If you do it this way, there is no need for each machine to have its own copy.. They will then all see the packages directory. Other then that, you would have to use some kind of rsync, or type tool.. Or just manually copy them over.. unless someone else has come up with something better. I do nfs and that has worked great for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] old or non-existant ebuild
Suppose I want programs X and Y on my gentoo machine. I notice that the ebuild for program X is outdated, and there is no ebuild for program Y. Is there some forum where I can request the update or creation of ebuilds for these programs? Sometimes you can ask the devs, and they do it. Sometimes they don't.. Not because they don't want to, but they are usually pretty busy already.. Best thing to do it create your own, and help out.. Most ebuilds are pretty easy... Where can I learn about getting involved in the ebuild process? I am not a programmer, but if there are a few well-documented steps to create an ebuild and put it in the portage tree, I would be interested in learning. First one is detailed instructions on how to build on. Don't let all the info fool you. Its not that hard.. Second one is how to submit it. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml The old X one, Most of the time you can just rename the ebuild, and maybe the source line(whatever line downloads the program), and it should get the latest version.. (that will help you better understand how ebuilds work to) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb
On Dec 4, 2003, at 2:11 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:52:42 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is conceivable, however, that I might have several users on the system, each of whom has a large Maildir who yet may desire to be able to locate other files in /home. PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp /home/*/.Maildir does not work, nor does PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp /.Maildir. Can anyone possibly suggest to me how I can exclude from the slocate database users' Maildirs, but NOT their other /home files..? I would think add one statement for each user. /home/user1/.maildir Personally, I just execute 'updatedb -e dir1,dir2,dir3 where dir1, etc. is the fully qualified path for a directory I want to exclude. Whilst this is practical on my current system, it wouldn't be should I expand to 50... 500... 5000 users. So I guess that in that case I'd have to write a script to read usernames from /etc/passwd enter /home/$USERNAME/.Maildir into PRUNPATHS, which is rather a chore. Any other suggestions much appreciated. Changing the code?? Seriously... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] spam after subscribing to gentoo-user
The gentoo-user list is archived here for example - say hello to your email address! http://www.cubik.ca/archives/gentoo-user/msg00840.html And who is responsable for that archive*? Can I sue he/she/them for publishing my e-mail address? Norberto [*] sorry, I'm on dialup and too lazy to go on-line again just to check who runs that website. Thats funny, I get the apache default index.html when I tried.. After doing some searching, [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to own it. Maybe asking him nicely would yelled some results. Isn't that great, he was smart enough to change his.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Thats just classic.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernels 2.4.20 don't work with reiserfs
You see this?? Starting with linux kernel v2.4.21 I cannot mount my FS anymore Special sanity checks were added to kernel code to prohibit mounting of filesystems that are bigger then underlying block device. If you now see this message on mount: Filesystem on xx:yy cannot be mounted because it is bigger than the device You may need to run fsck or increase size of your LVM partition Or may be you forgot to reboot after fdisk when it told you to If you do not use LVM, that usually means you need to run reiserfsck --rebuild-sb on your filesystem and agree to change it's default size to proposed one. Dunno Reiserfs, but came across it in case it affects you. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 02:39:08PM -0500, Mojo B. Nichols wrote: I run with / as reiserfs 2.20 no problem. I think you need to enable reiserfs in the kernel, and, I believe it can't be a module either. The problem is not with 2.4.20. 19 and 20 work fine, 21, 22, and 23 don't. And yes, I have CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y in my config file. I used make oldconfig to upgrade. The error is that I get something like failed to mount root partition on bootup. It then mounts readonly OK, but lots of other stuff fails after that. No doubt this is only a problem for certain people, but there are others. Maybe things work if you use genkernel. I did everything manually using vanilla-sources. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] spam after subscribing to gentoo-user
Unfortunately it's not just newbies or Outlook-challenged posters who do top postings. There are confirmed top-posters (disgusting as this may be) on every list who are well aware of what they are doing and who could care less about netiquette. IMO, the proper way to handle this would be to include a brief section (not a lengthy harangue) in the mail list FAQ (3. Gentoo Linux Mailing List Mini-FAQ) and to add a pointer to the FAQ in the welcome and confirmation messages generated by ezmlm/idx when a new user subscribes. Even that action won't get through to the top-posters who don't and won't ever practice netiquette. Well, I am curious, where can I find this proper netiquette your talking about?? Your obviously a lot smarter than most of us who just hap hazardly throw our comments any where in the message.. Please, show us the error of our ways and show me the web page of proper netiquette by a proper authority... Last I checked, your talking about preference. Your preference is to have the reply at the bottom, and other like it at the top. I wasn't aware this list was Collins way, or no way... But, like I said, if you show me this law that says we are all wrong, and your right, I will bow to the Collins law of proper netiquette. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] spam after subscribing to gentoo-user
And just why would you think that only bottom posters fail to trim their posts? That's even more likely with top posting - just start keying away at the top of the reply without looking at what was quoted below. Geez, I still can't believe people piss and moan about crap like this. Isn't there something else more important to throw all this hate behind?? Myself included.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] spam after subscribing to gentoo-user
But, like I said, if you show me this law that says we are all wrong, and your right, I will bow to the Collins law of proper netiquette. See http://www.albury.net.au/new-users/rfc1855.txt and search for top Few Things: one, This is not LAW, this is, and I quote Netiquette Guidelines. See that word, Guidelines. Thats not a law, just something that should happen based on what the article wrote up Also, did you READ this? Quote -- Status of This Memo This memo provides information for the Internet community. This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. -- This says this is NOT the standard. So where does it say I have to comply?? Here is where your out of line. I am using a piece of garbage mail reader/poster. If it does Top posting, how is that the fault of the Poster them self? Maybe you should go to the source, instead of the person?? Specially when the poster thinks that reading the top line and getting the answer, is easier than having to stroll to the bottom and looking for it after the numerous quotes and taglines you have to go through.. Try again.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail openpgp
On Sunday 30 November 2003 5:50 pm, Jeff Smelser wrote: The mail will show yellow if you don't have the public key to validate the signature against, or the key is untrusted. also check your gpg.conf and set these: keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve Maybe you need this also: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/kmailgentoo.php I saw that in my searches. That's for aegypten and I didn't want to use it. I have it working great now as I realized later I didn't have a gpg.conf in my home directory.. Dunno if I missed a step or what.. Works great now.. Thanks however.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail openpgp
Hi, You used that aegypten or just created gpg.conf at home directory with those two lines (keyserver and keyserver-options)? On Tuesday 02 December 2003 21:07, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: I saw that in my searches. That's for aegypten and I didn't want to use it. I have it working great now as I realized later I didn't have a gpg.conf in my home directory.. Dunno if I missed a step or what.. Works great now.. I use gpg. Actually, I copied my root version into there.. I then made some changes to it.. So I got the full pgp.conf in my home directory.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) QTparted and parted are not the same.. Parted does much more that qtparted does... You have to watch out for that. Parted should split fat32 just fine. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
isnt qtparted just a frontend? On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) QTparted and parted are not the same.. Parted does much more that qtparted does... You have to watch out for that. Parted should split fat32 just fine. Nope.. Q: What is QTParted ? A: QTParted is an attempt to create a linux-based clone of Partition Magic. Actually, a clone already exists called parted. It allows the creation, reorganization, and removal of partitions. But parted has a command line based interface, which can be difficult for a newbie to use. However the developer of parted decided to separate the core of the program from its interface. So the program parted is actually a simple command line UI to libparted. Libparted is the core that actually does the partition editing. QTParted is a GUI created around libparted written in QT (hence the name... QT + Parted = QTParted). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
HMm, re-reading it doesn't really make sense.. I have used parted on fat32 just fine. I know it works.. If your not getting it to work, maybe it something local. Nope.. Q: What is QTParted ? A: QTParted is an attempt to create a linux-based clone of Partition Magic. Actually, a clone already exists called parted. It allows the creation, reorganization, and removal of partitions. But parted has a command line based interface, which can be difficult for a newbie to use. However the developer of parted decided to separate the core of the program from its interface. So the program parted is actually a simple command line UI to libparted. Libparted is the core that actually does the partition editing. QTParted is a GUI created around libparted written in QT (hence the name... QT + Parted = QTParted). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] newbie gentoo install stage 1
i am having trouble with the bootstrap.sh script. I am doing a stage 1 install. I read this over and over again and your confusing me. Which install are you really trying to do?? stage1 is doing a complete compile for every package, yet your moving pre compiled packages over. Lets start by telling me, how you want to install this thing, with precompiled packages?? or completely compiling everything? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] newbie gentoo install stage 1
Then why are you not follow the stage1 install like it says?? Your changing it.. If you do it step by step, It will work... I don't remember anywhere it saying to drop eth0.. If you don't have the internet connection, you need to do a stage3 install.. I wish to do a stage 1 total rebuild. Hal Wigoda Engineer Berman Industries i am having trouble with the bootstrap.sh script. I am doing a stage 1 install. I read this over and over again and your confusing me. Which install are you really trying to do?? stage1 is doing a complete compile for every package, yet your moving pre compiled packages over. Lets start by telling me, how you want to install this thing, with precompiled packages?? or completely compiling everything? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] newbie gentoo install stage 1
Last time I checked it was. You can get around it by downloading what it needs.. But good luck with it. I do not want to download anything. I just want to build the system using the isos i downloaded and burned. Is this a stage 3 build then and not a stage 1? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] spam after subscribing to gentoo-user
Yes, I just set up a new email over the weekend at home, I am already getting Microsoft patched and return mail BS.. Someone is posting the emails on a web site somewhere... hi, before i subscriped to this list i got no spam at all, but after subscribing it startet, anyone else experienced this? if yes, then i recommend spamasassin for filtering it :D I already run it.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail openpgp
Cool, I will set that up when I get home today.. Thanks.. On Sunday 30 November 2003 5:50 pm, Jeff Smelser wrote: The mail will show yellow if you don't have the public key to validate the signature against, or the key is untrusted. also check your gpg.conf and set these: keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve now whenever you use gpg (whether through kmail or otherwise) gnupg will download the keys for you ...even easier!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filtering spam and MSTDs through POP
Check this out.. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/local-mail-0.3.0/local-email.html The mail account that I use for all my mailing lists is hosted on a friend's server. He doesn't want to take the time to setup a virus scanner or spamassassin on his box. Is there a way for me to run the mail I download from his via POP3 through f-prot, spamassassin, etc.? I'm currently using Mozilla Mail to download and would like to keep it that way. I was thinking about using fetchmail to download to a local account and then pointing Mozilla to a local POP3 server, but I still don't know how to run the downloaded mail through the filters. Can anyone help? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge -e pam
I just don't get this then. Apparently X is an indeirect dependency of PAM and PAM is a direct dependency of X. Why hasn't anyone else had this problem? Anybody here done a _FRESH_ build of gentoo 1.4 with both pam and X flags enabled? I just did, I am switching my desktop over to Linux and it compiled fine.. You can always re-emerge it and maybe it got deleted some how. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix and SASL problem
Did you read the ebuild?? DEPEND==sys-libs/db-3.2 =dev-libs/libpcre-3.4 sasl? ( =dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-1.5.27 ) ldap? ( =net-nds/openldap-1.2 ) mysql? ( =dev-db/mysql-3.23.28 ) ssl? ( =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6d ) Adding sasl looks like what works to me.. Hi, I have just installed postfix and have following problem: my ISP wants me to authenticate myself when using SMTP - so (I guess) I need SASL support. I have installed dev-libs/cyrus-sasl, configured /etc/main.cf and created /etc/saslpass.db. But when I try to send mail it bounces back and in the log is message: postfix/smtp[...]: warning: smtp_sasl_auth_enable is true, but SASL support is not compiled in. I installed Postfix first and Cyrus SASL as the next :-(. I have tried to unmerge Postfix and merge it again but it has no effect. How can I tell emerge to compile postfix with SASL? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Odd crashes
The problem I run into with kernel crashes, is that syslog never actually gets to process them. Kernel panics dies instantly.. The only way I have seen these is having a monitor on the box, with console up.. Not X or anything.. Its about the only way to see them.. okay, this might not solve anything, but would in case of a lock solid help somewhat. put the logger to log everything to /dev/tty10 (fex), that way you can catch on screen if the kernel balks something before it dies. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filtering spam and MSTDs through POP
Good question.. :) http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=pop+maildirsection=projects Not much going on, and not sure if any of those can even work for you. Hopefully someone else has a better answer.. Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Check this out.. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/local-mail-0.3.0/local-email.html The mail account that I use for all my mailing lists is hosted on a friend's server. He doesn't want to take the time to setup a virus scanner or spamassassin on his box. Is there a way for me to run the mail I download from his via POP3 through f-prot, spamassassin, etc.? I'm currently using Mozilla Mail to download and would like to keep it that way. I was thinking about using fetchmail to download to a local account and then pointing Mozilla to a local POP3 server, but I still don't know how to run the downloaded mail through the filters. Can anyone help? That looks just like what I need. Is there a POP3 server that will look at '$HOME/.maildir'? I prefer to use POP over IMAP. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
What does it matter? Fat16/32 is the same no matter how big it is.. Its all crap.. :) Should work just fine as long as the program doesn't limit itself. However, I wonder if that software is up to date. They are talking windows 95 and stuff on that homepage. Does it work even though my harddrive is as big as 80 GB? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
Your using fat32 with linux?? I don't know what your doing over there, but your scaring me just listening to this.. If you think fat32 is better, so be it, but I have no idea how your getting by with fat32 on a linux system.. Never loose files?? hmm... On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 22:00, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: What does it matter? Fat16/32 is the same no matter how big it is.. Its all crap.. :) fat32 is not crap, i still use it for all my files, ext2/3 and reiserfs is so insecure if you experience power failures, fat32 you never loose your files. thats what i have experienced the hard way -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] too large vfat
The Max size is 2TB... that isnt true, because i have a 250gb usb hd, which has a 250gb fat32 partition, but i just cant make a fat32 partition at my internal hd bigger than 130mb :( On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 22:32, SN wrote: Maximum partition size of Fat32 is 128GB. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
daniel wrote: Well... My bank uses a security plugin that only supports IE or Netscape 4 on mac or windows. *ugly words*... Are you sure? Mozilla supports netscape plugins... As well as Konquorer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
oppps, daniel did not write this, Jonas did.. Sorry daniel.. daniel wrote: Well... My bank uses a security plugin that only supports IE or Netscape 4 on mac or windows. *ugly words*... Are you sure? Mozilla supports netscape plugins... As well as Konquorer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Anybody with ftape 4.x here?
They are at 4.04.. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/ftape/ http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/ftape-tools/ There are gz versions there.. They have been updated in 2002.. So it may work. Good luck in that endevor hi, i have a iomega dittoMAX 3,5GB. It run's only with ftape version 4.x, but i can't compiling it on my server with 2.4.20/22. the only kernel patches i found are from 2.4.7, but the patches doesn't work, the kernel can't compiling. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
Google is your friend. Many times just putting in the library your looking for gives you what you need to know. OK, ok, not very bad... :-) But I can imagine situation: I compile some program, which has no ebuild, and it depends on some library, which is in standard ebuild package, but I cannot find it, if its name is completely different from ebuild's name.This didn't happen to me yet (I'm using gentoo for a week :-)). What happened to me was, that I desperately searched for my favorite /sbin/ip for several hours. How can I know, that it's in iproute and not in iputils. I have to install it to realize! I think there should be some index - web page/application is sufficient - listing all files in packages compiled with maximum USE flags. Doesn't Gentoo have something like GRP? It could serve this purpose. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap
Hi, I've recently had a rash of problems at work with my Outlook mail files growing too large and then getting corrupted. Some Googling around says that this is probably caused by them being larger than about 300MB. Mine's about a gig. Hmm, one of mine just grew over 300m.. I really hate Microsoft and their programmers I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at work sometime after the start of the year. I think my first step would be to get something like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it backed up as well. Man I wish I could do that. Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me? Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the mbox format and your back to using huge files again and the problems that go with it. My problem with maildir, is that pine doesn't work with it well. My inbox is fine, but it reverts back to mbox for the folders. I can't figure out if its something I did, or a pine problem.. Any reason I should choose one over the other? The description for courier-imap says it was designed for maildirs. Whatever I choose would probably need to support both Evolution and Outlook users at the same time. It doesn't matter, imap is imap as far as the mail reader is concerned.. Its a choice of Maildir to mbox really as far as the server. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
Host is given to you by bind-tools... I don't know if there is a utility for this, I know qpkg gives you what host was installed by, but I don't know if there is something BEFORE its installed.. ebuilds really don't know what's going to be installed.. I don't think.. Hi, I'm quite new in Gentoo, but it seems to be VERY suitable for me. But I'm missing one feature, which I often used in RPM distros - search engine. Please tell me, how you find package by name of the file it contains? I can list files only in packages, which are already installed. Is it possible to see what files WILL BE installed by emerge something? For example /sbin/ip - finally I found it in iproute package, but only by chance. Does exist some utility or search engine for this? (Now I'm seeking the host utility). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
I ran gentoo on a system for a few days earlier this year, right up to where my system became a casualty of an emerge limitation, documented at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-manual.xml : Warning: Unmerging packages can be dangerous. If you remove any core packages your system may cease to function and the removal of various libraries may cause software to fail. Portage does not warn you if you are removing core packages or dependencies for other packages. This seems like a critical limitation to me. It means that unless I have a deep understanding of the dependencies among packages, the number of packages on my system can only grow. In general, Gentoo seems to be quite well architected, and this limitation sticks out like a sore thumb to me. What is the rationale? Is it on the to be fixed list, or is it intentional? If it's intentional, how do people maintain systems over the long term without re-installing every so often? First, this is being addressed as we speak... There is a program called qpkg, that addresses this. you can run it and it will tell you if anything is dependant on it or not.. Let us know when you get gentoo running and we would be more then happy to help you figure it out. I'm searching for a Linux distro to switch to (I'm one of those Red Hat customers being left in the lurch), and Gentoo seems really nice, *except* for this one problem, so some enlightenment would really be appreciated. Fedora is the new version of redhat, fyi.. As a former redhat hater, I mean user, you will find that gentoo is more then redhat wished they could have been. Rpm is horrible. The reverse dependencies will be ironed out soon. Even if they don't, gpkg, and a little knowledge of your system is all that is needed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
Isn't it broken?? what is wrong with emerge --depclean ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
No, it actually has some problems.. # emerge -p depclean *** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN SERIOUSLY IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR SANITY BEFORE ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT. *** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT *** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : Packages in the list that are desired may be added *** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored *** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE *** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN IN-USE LIBRARIES MAY BE REPAIRED BY *** WARNING *** : MERGING *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS *** ABOUT THE *** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY. It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so right there.. And if that's not enough.. http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=depcleanfield0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=depcleanfield0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=depcleanfield0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=depclean There are 4 bugs in gentoo buglist, 2 being packages being cleaned that should not have... -Original Message- From: Redeeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:57 PM To: Gentoo Maillinglist Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge' works here On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 20:50, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Isn't it broken?? what is wrong with emerge --depclean ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] building openoffice
yes does the openoffice ebuild really require 4-5G of available diskspace to compile? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
Sergey, I am curious, your a Debian guy from my google searches. If your trying to fish for information. Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself?? Your fishing for information from people who just simply love gentoo for what it is, and don't care about the politics.. Your best to go to the man himself who really sets this stuff up... Seems pretty childish to run around fishing for information to try to see how we work when you can just read the homepage and get it yourself. Thank you for answers. Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. That's all there is to it. No-one is allowed to touch the contract without being backed up by the managers decision. Are managers 'Gentoo Technologies Inc' employees? Can managers alter the Social Contract? How much power Daniel Robbins have? Can he override (or veto) managers decisions? Thanks a lot for taking time to reply. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
This is a political question. We know how gentoo runs, most, if not all, can care less how developers argue about getting something in some contract as long as gentoo runs and ebuilds come out when they should. Again, whats so hard about asking the people you SHOULD be asking.. I am just trying to tell you your asking in the wrong place. If you want to keep asking in here and getting opinions from here, fine.. But don't go back to your debian friends with it as law, since you find it hard to ask Daniel Robbins. Frankly, I find your questions to be odd. If you really wanted to get this for some Company, or important reasons, you would be smart enough to know where to get the information you need. You, to me, seem to just be trying to get some information for some other reason.. Just my ΒΌ cent worth. You still have not answered MY question of why you need to know? Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Sergey, Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself?? Jeffrey, isn't gentoo-user the place to ask questions about the Gentoo? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
I dont' know, frankly, but he has been on the debian weekly status.. Seems to be very active.. I didn't care to go that far. I just don't see someone who really wants these questions answered for important reasons, coming to a list of us to get it unless he has an agenda, I may not like... But I am skeptical at heart, so. Do you mean he's part of the debian team or just a debian user? On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:20 -0600 Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergey, I am curious, your a Debian guy from my google searches. If your trying to fish for information. Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself?? Your fishing for information from people who just simply love gentoo for what it is, and don't care about the politics.. Your best to go to the man himself -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
I feel like I am talking to my wife here. Barry Marler wrote: This forum's name is fairly illustrative of it's purpose: to discuss issues relating to using the distribution. Before I decide, if I want to use a distribution, I want to know something about it. Here are my questions and I need answers to draw a conclusion. The Gentoo philosophy per se is, IMHO, not germane to gentoo-user. Then you probably know the right place for this? Do you not read what I say?? Daniel Robbins is your man for this political crap. All I care about is that it doesn't destroy my system, NOT hard to deal with dependencies, but I still have the control of what I want when installing/using my applications.. I don't care about what they do, because 90% of their decisions, do not affect me much.. Example, they don't like this app so they won't support and ebuild for it?? who cares, I will create my own. (they have never done this as far as I know however) Your question your trying to get some much information for, no one really knows here.. I have told you who to go to. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo SLOW with Seti@home
Finallyrunning TOP occurred to me and when I did, I saw a root session running nanoand i could not recall having logged in as root and run nano any time in the past few days. But I can't rule it out as I almost certainly would have adjusted the host name of the local portage mirror when the operator changed it. But when cycled through the various terminals, I was not connected to any login session.whatever it was, was running in the background. Well, you got a serious problem then. I cant think of any reason nano should be running unless YOU, or scary yet, a hacker is running it.. my suggestion is to run ps -ef or the like, and figure out where that nano is coming from.. If you can't figure it out, then give us the output and let us help you figure it out.. My thought is, you ran nano as some point and logged out and that's just a run away process.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=Tkinter Most things python, are in dev-python.. Hi, I'm looking for the Tkinter lib for Python. So far my 'emerge search's have not born any fruit. Does anyone know what ebuild this lib is in. Is it even in an ebuild? Yes I have done an 'emerge sync' within the last 24 hours. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
Opps. my mistake.. I should have read it better.. There isn't one.. :) Let me crawl back in my hole.. http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=Tkinter Most things python, are in dev-python.. Hi, I'm looking for the Tkinter lib for Python. So far my 'emerge search's have not born any fruit. Does anyone know what ebuild this lib is in. Is it even in an ebuild? Yes I have done an 'emerge sync' within the last 24 hours. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
What's with your questions?? Sven Vermeulen wrote: Thank you for anwers. Here are some more. 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? Gentoo has several top-level projects [1]. Each project is in charge for a well-defined part of the distribution. When decisions need to be made, the situation is discussed at the appropriate mailinglists/channels, after which the Gentoo managers (the leads of the top-level projects) get together to discuss the situation and vote. Who are Gentoo managers? Are they elected? Are they Gentoo Technologies Inc employees? 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. Can Gentoo maintainers alter the Social Contract? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] rebuild all
emerge -ep world.. Take p off when your satisfied its correct Hello everyone, Is there an emerge option for rebuilding the whole box (assuming all emerged source tarballs still present) ? It's the -O3 issue... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] rebuild all
That includes the kitchen sink and the dirty dishes.. :) Jeffrey Smelser wrote: emerge -ep world.. Would thta also include all packages which are not depended on by any of the world packages or their dependencies ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] rebuild all
No?? So why does it work on my system?? And what the hell does that command do?? This to me looks like your installing every package on the system, why would you want to do that? emerge -ep world.. Would thta also include all packages which are not depended on by any of the world packages or their dependencies ? nope! why would it? for this you have to do: cd /usr/portage emerge *-*/* but first you should remove package.mask ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] rebuild all
Actually, that's every package there is an ebuild for, not on the system. Which is what he wants.. No?? So why does it work on my system?? And what the hell does that command do?? This to me looks like your installing every package on the system, why would you want to do that? emerge -ep world.. Would thta also include all packages which are not depended on by any of the world packages or their dependencies ? nope! why would it? for this you have to do: cd /usr/portage emerge *-*/* but first you should remove package.mask ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?
begin quote On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:58 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and slow down the direct IO from fast to its faster to compile, really ? Well, depends on the situation but most of the time you're probably right. Well, okay. On a machine with PIO disks and gigabit ethernet, its probably faster to use the network *g* ccache-distcc-gcc, so first it checks ccache for have I done this already? then it goes to compile on distcc. Hence, ccache should cache the compiles on the machine that does the emerge regardless of where the code was compiled? Yep, that should be the case. I have openmosix here and all 4 of my machines are compiled the same.. So wouldn't it be faster lets say, I nfs ccache, so all my other machines technically won't have to compile any code once the first pc does it?? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] removing color
Is there a command line program or script I can filter something through to remove color? For example, if I want to run 'emerge' and get output with no color, how can I do this? You could always use tee, and just set the file to /dev/null.. I think tee will cut the colors out and still output to the screen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?
Yep, that should be the case. I have openmosix here and all 4 of my machines are compiled the same.. So wouldn't it be faster lets say, I nfs ccache, so all my other machines technically won't have to compile any code once the first pc does it?? Actually, what Id suggest (and I did here when I last ran mosix systems) : mount /usr/portage over nfs (master, the machine with fastest disks, host this) my master server then builds with : emerge --usepkg --buildpkg -u world Then the same command can be issued on either machine, as they will all share /usr/portage/packages, the binaries will be installed when avaiable, and if they aren't avaiable, new binaries will be generated for the rest to use. also FEATURES=buildpkg is a nice idea. I prefer not to do the unpack/configure/ccache dance unless necessary. I will impliment that this weekend.. :) good idea.. have to look into the buildpkg feature.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user]Multiple screens for 1 box
Might want to search this list. Not to long ago, I remember a conversation where someone was doing this sorta thing.. It is possible from what I think I read.. ;) On 2003.11.14 03:29, Alex Unigovsky wrote: The problem lies here: how to split several USB mice and keyboards among several servers? USB mice are a non-issue, /dev/input/mouse0, /dev/input/mouse1, etc. The problem is the usb keyboards. Does xfree86 currently support specifying a keyboard device? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Dhcpcd and passing client options?
Hello, Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong here. Im sure this is totally basic but I'm unsure if this is correct or not and am unable to test without having my cable modem in place. SNIP So for Eth0 I would just uncomment the iface_eth0=dhcp line and to pass the -R option I would just need to uncomment dhcpcd_eth0=... and add -R in replacement of the 3 periods ...? dhcpcd_eth0= -R.. I don't think you need the space, but, better safe than sorry.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Moving /usr/portage
Oh, that I knew, but it doesn't help in this case. Since the partition /usr/portage was in was full, all I needed to do was move it to some place that wasn't full. Since I had an existing 20GB partition that was 90% empty, adding 1.5GB to it was no big deal, but it had to be a directory with a simlink. I thought about taking that partition and broking it into two, and then mounting that partition at /usr/portage, but grub (and all of Linux) is sort of picky about partition numbers changing that I didn't want to deal with it. I am a big believer in not adding more partitions than necessary.. It just becomes a big headache.. I have two 40 gig drives here that are one big partitions, (except for extra swap partition) and I just mount to directories as I need.. This way, if my mp3s become a problem, I can move them and clear space on my other directories.. My movies seem to move a lot as those things take up a drive in no time. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Moving /usr/portage
Mark Knecht wrote: And these can be put into /etc/fstab to 'mount' them at boot time? Yes! Actually, I do --bind /usr/portage on /home/ftp/pub/os/gentoo/portage /usr/portage /home/ftp/pub/os/gentoo/portage nonebind 0 0 It would seem sensible to order fstab with these coming after the actual disk mount instructions? Yes Mark, you would need to put this after the partition mount. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] fcrontab' editor
Gentoo uses the $EDITOR variable where others may not. You must remember the fcron is probably ran on many different linux's, unixs and whatever else.. So you need a default in the conf for those systems... and gentoo doesn't require it either... So technically not all gentoo's don't have a $EDITOR variable set. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 November 2003 09:58 am, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: | cron always uses the $EDITOR variable first.. So its right. | | Whats the problem? | % grep editor /etc/fcron/fcron.conf | # Location of the default editor for fcrontab -e | editor = /usr/bin/vim | And the purpose of this variable in fcron.conf is what? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get gcc-config to do anything?
Is gcc emerged correctly? I'm not sure .. it looks a bit screwy. Why the N in the first emerge feedback below? blommie i18n # emerge -p gcc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r8 Here is why gcc-config isn't working.. run the above without the -p and things will magically work. That is the only gentoo version that allows gcc-config work before upgrading ver 3. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?
begin quote On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:39:25 +0100 Oliver Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just in case - does anyone know (or wants to write) an article about the best way how to setup: gentoo + distcc + ccache + tmpfs (question of the month ? :) Contact me in priv and I'll make a rough draft, which you can formalize using the Gentoo Documentation Policy. I'll even host it for you. ;) Let us lowly pee-ons know when this is finished, I wouldn't mind seeing this Doc as I am always looking to make my compiles faster.. I wouldn't mind checking out ccache.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?
gentoo - your already there! distcc - emerge distcc. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild ccache - emerge ccache. follow instructions printed at end of ebuild I get this part tmpfs - if you have lots of ram, run mount tmpfs /var/tmp/portage. if not, don't. For the most part, that's all there is to it. If you want to know the possibilities, use your imagination or wait until somebody else does it and puts it into a nice guide like Spider is talking about. here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that in 'theory'.. But your leaving out several things..Big problem with distcc is that it likes to fail compiles if your using different gcc versions during compiles.. Things of this nature.. There should be a document on how to install all this making sure you let whoever know these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big compile distro, its good to know these things. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compile power ?
On Friday 14 November 2003 01:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: here is the problem with that.. Distcc does work like that in 'theory'.. But your leaving out several things..Big problem with distcc is that it likes to fail compiles if your using different gcc versions during compiles.. Things of this nature.. There should be a document on how to install all this making sure you let whoever know these kinds of issues... Being gentoo is a big compile distro, its good to know these things. At the end of emerging distcc, you will see: Tips on using distcc with Gentoo can be found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml That document covers all your questions. I am aware of this.. Isn't that what i said in my letter? I think we are on two different tracks here.. Just forget it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos
I don't have to try it :-) I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, if you know what I mean :-) So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more. I wasn't going to reply to this, but I have decided to.. What was the reason he had for implementing this security feature?? If they are trying to stop people from stealing those feeds, they have failed because I know what you can use, on windows, to download them.. However, if its to say they only want windows people using it, it will make my decision easier in going to linux desktop.. I admit, other the launchcast, I have no reason to stay windows.. but I love launchcast and if I am at my pc at home, its on and running.. So I am curious how they feel about linux and if they will ever do anything for linux.. It may not be much to them, but I won't be paying my 4 bucks a month if they are just totally against a unix variant.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Starting Daemon at boot
rc-update add samba default Check out the man page so you know what's goin on Hi, Can anyone tell me how to start /etc/init.d/samba start at boot so I don't have to manually invoke the command. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] booting gentoo on alpha machine
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-alpha-install.xml A friend of mine just got an old alpha machine from work, and he wanted to try running linux on it so I told him to try gentoo. But we're having trouble getting started, I see no boot iso for stage 1, only the tar file. So how do we get to a command prompt where we can start installing it? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: libssl: error [fixed]
Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, lets think about this for a minute.. You create a library for others to use. When you deem a change necessary enough to bump versions, this normally means you have changed the library in such a way, that calls to it should change... Minor version number bumps are supposed to *not* break binary compatibility with applications. Your right, and I said that.. Your missing my point in my little rant. Wouldn't you think?? So are you really fixing the problem, or are you to lazy recompile the programs so it works right.. I hope your not going to be the guy later who gets hacked and says gentoo sucks because their security is bad.. I just ran into this libssl problem today, and found that I couldn't rebuild the programs, since my version of wget wouldn't work anymore (due to the missing library). I had to to the link replacement as the parent poster did just to get the source fetcher to work (I clean my distfiles due to diskspace). I am aware of this, you would need to download is some other way.. I know. This is actually a ebuild bug and the old libs should be there.. but are not.. So, doing a revdep-rebuild will recompile what you want.. (removing the links first of course). Actually, I see it as a build bug, but I'm not too sure how to word it. The programs linked with libssl should be depending upon libssl.so.0 and not more specific versions. This is how dynamic libs are designed under unix, so something seems a bit odd that this even happened at all. Since libssl.so.0 is a link to the more detailed version number there would have been no problems. Here is the point your missing. THIS TIME, its a minor revision and it probably doesn't mean anything to throw links on it to get it to work.. I agree.. Next time however, it may not be. And he is figuring out that throwing a link on a library will work.. So, with that said, next time he will do that again, and risk the integrity of the system, if it works at all... Then he won't know how to fix it because of him just being lazy on how your really suppose to fix those kind of problems.. I agree, the ebuild has cause several problems.. I am just trying to show the proper way of keeping your system healthy, you wanted throw links in there, thats your business... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Updating
Add --deep or -D.. Actually.. Your best bet is emerge -Dupvl world.. This will give you a wealth of information so you can determine the best way to upgrade your packages. Hi all.. I just want to know if the following command is the right one to use to see if I need to update any packages. emerge -up world It comes up empty.. so does this mean I am fully up to date, or am I doing something wroing. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] HELP - MySQL - OT
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Passwords.html Help I have a connect.php that allows for authentication of my database as a user pmt I changed the password and didnot back up the file...Now I can't access at all. What is the command to change the password for user pmt without knowing the correct password. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge SUNK!!!
Why don't you just set make.conf to use the default, so it goes after a valid gentoo rsync server?? You don't need to find a host.. My usual rsync mirror (gazza.citylink.co.nz) is out of action, so I thought I would point at another rsync mirror: rsync.planetmirror.com.au .as listed on the Gentoo.org download page (sort of - when you try the rsync link on the gentoo.org page, the site tells you it has been moved and presents the adres above). BIG MISTAKE! When I ran an emerge sync, it started off OK...and i went on with other business on another PC. When i checked about an hour later, the silly thing was in the /FixDOS subdirectory or portage...and pulling down a dozen different staging files plus 3 full ISO images!!! I'm on a dataquota of 3 GB / month of international traffic. This silly thing just ate up about 600 MBs downloading stages and ISOs for non-intel platforms. Anyone have any advice on how to limit the scope of emerge sync? Or is that mirror set up bad and wrongly? I suspect the latter. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] fcrontab' editor
cron always uses the $EDITOR variable first.. So its right. Whats the problem? In fcrontab, I notice that the editor variable is over-ruled by the EDITOR variable. % echo $EDITOR /bin/nano % grep editor /etc/fcron/fcron.conf # Location of the default editor for fcrontab -e editor = /usr/bin/vim However, when I run 'fcrontab -e' the editor used is nano. Of course I can simply change EDITOR, but that is besides the point. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] anyone have success with daap (itunes sharing)?
I'm trying to get daap going to share the mp3s and oggs on my fileserver via itunes sharing, with little success. I'm following the directions at http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030711140157143 I have the files downloaded, but whenever I try to compile libhttpd-persistant I get tons of g++ errors, and I'm not sure why :( make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/libhttpd-1.3-persistent-e/src' gcc -I../src -g -I../ -I/usr/local/include -D_OS_UNIX -c protocol.c In file included from protocol.c:41: select.h:29:20: iostream: No such file or directory This is not a good sign. iostream is a core header for c++. My guess is that you didn't run, or don't have a configure program that comes with that. If its there, run it and try again. If it doesn't, your going to have to find where the iostream.h file is, and adjust the Makefile to that directory. (I don't remember where it is since its been awhile since I have coded c++ in linux) Basically, the Makefile is looking for headers in the wrong spot. The problem your going to have though, if it doesn't have configure, if there is a library that it uses and it fails again, your going to have to look the old fashion waygoogle the header.. ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cross gcc
Might want to gander at this before you go cross compiling.. http://dev.gentoo.org/~brad_mssw/amd64-tech-notes.html Where can I get cross compiler ? I want build gentoo system for x86_64 (opteron). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] First time Install/Bootloader with Windows Query
SNIP this: /dev/hda1 (The first partition): Windows 2000 Professional/MBR /dev/hda2: Windows apps /dev/hda3: Doc storage And I wanted to add: /dev/hda4: /boot partition for Linux (Grub: 0, 3) /dev/hda5: Linux SWAP (Grub: 0, 4) /dev/hda6: Linux root (/) (Grub: 0, 5) 0=a1 1=a2 2=a3 3=a4 I'd start with this in the grub prompt: root (0, 3) //the /boot partition root (hd0,3) setup (0, 0) setup (hd0) if you add the ,0, it will try to install grub in the first partition.. You want it in the mbr Then in the conf file: default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,3)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz //Should that be just /grub/splash.xpm.gz, since 0,3 is the /boot partition? Doesn't matter.. Either will work Then: title=My example Gentoo Linux (genkernel) root (hd0,3) kernel (hd0,3)/boot/kernel-KV root=/dev/hda3 ^^ wouldn't this be root=/dev/hda6?? initrd (hd0,3)/boot/initrd-KV Then for Windows 2000: title=Windows 2000 root (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 if the chainloader doesn't work, take out the (hd0,0) part, I have never used it but it could work. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get gcc-config to do anything?
hmm.. What version of gcc you running?? You MUST be running 2.95-3 (I think) or later to use this.. The env its talking about is /etc/env.d/gcc.. If you don't have that.. I would suspect your copy of gcc is older... If not, let me know and I will try it from another angle. I've just emerged gcc-config. I can't get beyond this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] todos $ gcc-config --list-profiles * /usr/bin/gcc-config: No default profile setup! How do I set a profile? How do I find out what my current profile is supposed to be? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cross gcc
Here is what I found: 2.6 kernel LiveCDs available for x86 and amd64? Thanks to Bob Johnson's hard work, we now have LiveCDs available for x86 and amd64 that use the 2.6 kernel. The x86 LiveCDs can be downloaded here, and the amd64 ones are here. The 2.6 LiveCD for amd64 should be preferred over the 2.4 LiveCD because the 2.4 kernel did not provide the necessary hardware/driver support. Enjoy the new CDs! http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/experimental/amd64/livecd/ There are 2.4 kernels in there.. (obviously the ones that don't say 2.6..) So maybe that will work for you. -Original Message- From: Andrew B. Panphiloff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jeffrey Smelser Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] cross gcc , 11.11.2003, 18:18, Jeffrey Smelser : Might want to gander at this before you go cross compiling.. http://dev.gentoo.org/~brad_mssw/amd64-tech-notes.html Thanks for link. The problem, in essence, is this: I have Tiger K8W (S2875) motherboard, two Opterons and two SATA disks, so promise driver for SATA150 TX2Plus controller support only 2.4.x kernel and also I don't want use unstable kernel. Booting from LiveCD for opteron I can't get access to my hard disk. I want to compile at least kernel for x86_64.
RE: [gentoo-user] anyone have success with daap (itunes sharing)?
I did run the configure program and it seemed to go fine.
When I adjust
the gcc line to this:
gcc -I../src -g -I../ -I/usr/local/include \
-I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/
-D_OS_UNIX \
-c protocol.c
which includes the proper location of the iostream header,
or this to get the other headered it complains about:
gcc -I../src -g -I../ -I/usr/local/include \
-I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ \
-I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/i686
-pc-linux-gnu/ \
-D_OS_UNIX -c protocol.c 21 | more
I get different errors:
naked src # gcc -I../src -g -I../ -I/usr/local/include \
-I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ \
-I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/i686
-pc-linux-gnu/ \
-D_OS_UNIX -c protocol.c 21 | more
In file included from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/iosfwd:45,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ios:44,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ostream:45,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/iostream:45,
from select.h:29,
from protocol.c:41:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/bits/s
tringfwd.h:46: parse error before std
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/bits/s
tringfwd.h:47: syntax error before '{' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/bits/s
tringfwd.h:60: parse error before '' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/bits/s
tringfwd.h:65: parse error before '' token
In file included from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/cstdio:50,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/i686-p
c-linux-gnu/bits/c++io.h:35,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/bits/f
pos.h:44,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/iosfwd:46,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ios:44,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/ostream:45,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/g++-v3/iostream:45,
from select.h:29,
from protocol.c:41:
The strange part is I don't need to do all these includes when simply
compiling a simple cout hello world program, g++ foo.c
-o foo works
fine. All my emerges compile fine as well, so I'm thinking that these
packages need something specific to get them to go on gentoo.
Why would you? cout is a internal c++ function and doesn't use headers. iostream
includes several other functions that this program must need.. I am starting to think
this was written for something other that linux, and has something unix or something
else specific in it..
I guess no one has tried this before :)
I have not. Your getting parse errors.. Thats program specific... Have you googles
around on this??
Nice machine name btw.. (as I write down for future use)
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RE: [gentoo-user] Portage seems to be against my will
# nano /var/cache/edb/world Remove the lines containing simgear and flightgear from that file. That's all. :) Is this a bug in emerge/portage or is it too random to track down ?? I had a similar issue last week with /var/cache/edb/world listing the 2.6 kernel package that I emerged to take a look at. When I did that, emerge/portage then thought that that was my current or primary kernel when it wasn't. Check to which kernel the symbolic link '/usr/src/linux' points. That's certainly what you mean by primary kernel - I think... Edit /var/cache/edb/virtuals and make sure you delete all entries from virtual/linux-sources that you don't want to be emerged. Ah, and yes - it is a known bug that not all unmerged packages get deleted from the world-file. But I don't think it's a too serious bug, because you can easily fix it with nano/vi/whatever editor you like :) Yeah, but your assuming everyone who uses gentoo is smart enough to edit these files.. Since redhat is going away, in a sense, your already seeing the flood of them coming over here and some of them are not smart enough to know that.. As much as I like helping out on this list, it get rather ugly having to answer the same ones over and over just because its deemed not serious enough.. Seems like a trivial fix to me anyway... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] libssl: error [fixed]
Well, lets think about this for a minute.. You create a library for others to use. When you deem a change necessary enough to bump versions, this normally means you have changed the library in such a way, that calls to it should change... Wouldn't you think?? So are you really fixing the problem, or are you to lazy recompile the programs so it works right.. I hope your not going to be the guy later who gets hacked and says gentoo sucks because their security is bad.. This is actually a ebuild bug and the old libs should be there.. but are not.. So, doing a revdep-rebuild will recompile what you want.. (removing the links first of course). You guys amaze me sometimes. Ok guys, The libssl.so.0.9.7 probelm I fixed it ( the one that says error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) First link libssl.so.0.9.7 to libssl.so.0.9.6 then do libcrypto: cd /usr/lib/ ln -s libssl.so.0.9.7 libssl.so.0.9.6 ln -s libcrypto.so.0.9.7 libcrypto.so.0.9.6 then just merge openssl emerge openssl -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] assigning net.eth? to specific nethwork devices
You can autoload the module on boot in the order you want them to be. /etc/modules.autoload is a good start. I have a wired and wireless nic on my laptop, I've noticed the wireless nic sometimes get eth0 and other times eth1. Is there a way to assign a nic to be a choosen eth device? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] rpm -qa like
Try gentoolkit Hi everybody, I saw early today a post that was saying that to see all the packages in the system, something like rpm -qa, exists a command qpkg -I -v. I tried this command but it seems I don't have this command in my Gentoo. Is there a package I should emerge to use qpkg ? Thanks in advance ! Alex, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Openssl error after update
openssl breaks a bunch of programs.. You need to run revdep-rebuild to rebuild all the packages that require openssl.. You can create a link from 0.9.6 to 0.9.7 temporarly.. But make sure you recompile because it could have bad side affects, if not now, later. this thing updated openssl last night and now it gives me the following error: bash-2.05b# etc-update !!! CANNOT IMPORT FTPLIB: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory !!! CANNOT IMPORT FTPLIB: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Scanning Configuration files... Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) any ideas what went wrong? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Openssl error after update
when you run revdep-rebuild -p, it will show you. Take off the -p, and it will recompile them.. Its not a perfect system, but it at least is a good start.. Devs are trying to find a better way as we speak. Which programs would need recompiled? On Monday 10 November 2003 01:53 pm, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: openssl breaks a bunch of programs.. You need to run revdep-rebuild to rebuild all the packages that require openssl.. You can create a link from 0.9.6 to 0.9.7 temporarly.. But make sure you recompile because it could have bad side affects, if not now, later. this thing updated openssl last night and now it gives me the following error: bash-2.05b# etc-update !!! CANNOT IMPORT FTPLIB: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory !!! CANNOT IMPORT FTPLIB: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Scanning Configuration files... Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) any ideas what went wrong? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssh keys
Gentoo runs this the first time you run the SSHD daemon.. So it wasn't overlooked. I've never had to generate my keys for ssh. Under Slackware this is done the first time you boot into a fresh install. Under Gentoo this was not done. Now I'm not sure if this is something I've messed up or is there some step I've overlooked.? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Openssl error after update
well, of course not. You created the links.. Get rid of those links and run them. I just said you can create those links if you can't do it right away.. Ok, I cd'd to /usr/lib and ran: bash-2.05b# ln -s libssl.so.0.9.7 libssl.so.0.9.6 bash-2.05b# ln -s libcrypto.so.0.9.7 libcrypto.so.0.9.6 Then I ran: bash-2.05b# revdep-rebuild Now no error messages when I run etc-update. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssh keys
Oh.. why are you running it directly?? Do this. /etc/init.d/sshd start... that will do it.. Any reason your running it manually? Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Gentoo runs this the first time you run the SSHD daemon.. So it wasn't overlooked. I'm definately still in the dark then. I've rebooted this system but there was no keys generated. running sshd results in: crash root # sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. I must be overlooking something just not sure what. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] MySQL 4.1 ebuild?
According to http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mysql an ebuild has not been created for it yet.. Hi, I'm new to the list, but have been using Gentoo for awhile now. Does anyone know of any plans, or already completed ebuilds of the newer MySQL 4.1 tree? If not, how are people's experience upgrading to 4.1 on a gentoo box? Thanks, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Building the kernel
So the rule book says.. But if its a minor kernel change, your taking a chance that the module your using isn't using something thats changed.. SO its just safer.. I have used modules from different versions and they have worked, but its hit or miss at best and shouldn't really be done. (I did it by mistake) Hello, Please tell me if the following statement is correct: Because modules call internal functions of the kernel as fixed addresses, when the kernel is changed (even a small change) all modules must be rebuilt. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge transcode fail
USE=mmx emerge transcode I can't seem to emerge transcode 0.6.10, it seems to fail during compile... Anyone solved this one yet? snip make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/transcode-0.6.10 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 115, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge transcode fail
Its a bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30877 USE=mmx emerge transcode It took me some time and many tries, but then I found that out. Shouldn't emerge warn you about that. If it doesn't comile w/out mmx then why do not activate mmx for transcode by default? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
Short answer: You can do just about anything you want. Its all a matter of figuring it out. i am going to make my own version of the livecd, i read the thread on the forum, but i still have questions, is it possible to recompile it all? and then add more stuff too, and will it be possible to integrate portage into it and stuff? Your going to have to realize a couple things.. First, everything that can be written, must be on ramdisk since you can't assume you will find a hard drive to write it too. The more dynamic stuff you have, the bigger the ramdisk. You will run out of memory real fast if you think your going to be able to do a emerge sync into a ramdisk. But, As I said, you can do it. anothing thing, when the livecd loads, you can choose between 2 kernels, gentoo kernel, and gentoo smp kernel, would it be possible for me to have a 2.6 kernel and a 2.4 kernel? and in case, how? I have no idea why gentoo's livecd doesn't have a bigger selection of kernels.. Thats a low amount of disk space. But thats just configuring grub, or whatever you use, to handle all the kernels before you make the iso and making sure all the kernels compile everything you need.. This all depends on what kind of live cd you want, something a bunch of computers can use, or build one for a specific pc you have.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
Should be hd1... I have seen funnier things however.. Like was stated before, you can always type root (hd'TAB' and it will give you your choices..probably hd0,hd1... Does grub's numbering include the CD, so the SATA drive would be (hd1)? Or is it still (hd0)? I'm remote from the machine right now so I cannot try this until later today.) I couldn't get it to boot last night after I finished the stage 3 install due to this problem. It kept saying 'file not found' and it was late so I figured I'd read more about grub today. It can find bzImage files using some of those commands that show up when I do a tabbed completion, correct? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
Helpful information. Thanks. hda is a CDROM hde is the SATA drive Does grub's numbering include the CD, so the SATA drive would be (hd1)? Or is it still (hd0)? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml Chapter 23, the section titled Configuring GRUB. I am curious, does that document tell you whether to count cd's or not?? I can't find it.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
Helpful information. Thanks. hda is a CDROM hde is the SATA drive Does grub's numbering include the CD, so the SATA drive would be (hd1)? Or is it still (hd0)? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml Chapter 23, the section titled Configuring GRUB. I am curious, does that document tell you whether to count cd's or not?? I can't find it.. Ok I found it, thats quite odd it says it doesn't count apapis.. Mine does at home... I am gonna have to look into it more.. Maybe mine is a super atapi?? :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to lock an ebuild version?
create /etc/portage directory.. Then create package.mask. And put in there =ebuild.version.. Hi, how can I keep a specific version of an ebuild on my system? I don't want it to be updated with emerge -puvUD world. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to lock an ebuild version?
Well, wherever you set your portdir_overlay directory, just cp that ebuild WITH directory style over to that directory. That will keep the ebuild you want in case its deleted from portage.. Its very important you copy the categories and so forth are copied with to make sure it works right.. Will that keep an emerge sync from deleting the physical *.ebuild files? I have a feeling one might want to keep those around and not have the rsync process wipe it out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Off Topic: Dhcp client and etc/resolv.conf
dhcpcd -R should work.. When eth0 gets its dhcp info from comcast it will undoubtedly make entries in /etc/resolv.conf with the dns servers that comcast wants me to use over-riding the manual/static (don't know if I'm saying that correctly) entry that I currently use. Is there 'any way for me to tell the dhcp client to not use, or say, discard the dns server ip's/info that is given to me or to somehow tell /etc/resolv.conf to only use nameserver 192.168.1.1 ?? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
MAL, Hi. Thanks for the help. As Jeffery said, this write up on the Gentoo site seems to differ from what you're saying, unless I'm misunderstanding you. It would seem according to the Gentoo install doc that the CD is not counted. I think my confusion, or possibly worry, right now is that I did 2 hours of installation, which ends with installing grub but somehow wiping out the Gentoo installation. Can that happen? I did create the boot floppies, so maybe they will help me work out what's going on. My recollection was that last night, at the grub step where I thought I should type 'root (hd4,0)', grub complained so I tried 'root (hd0,0)' and it worked. Then it isn't counting your CD. It will not hurt your gentoo install either and your just trying to write to the mbr.. like I said, I thought I remember it counting cd's, but I could be wrong.. When running the setup, it had to find your /boot drive.. SO you should be ready to go, just make sure your grub.conf is looking for hd0,0. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
I'm pretty sure I did have the root command set to (hd0,0) to get this far. One difference between the Redhat docs I'm looking at and the Gentoo install page is that Gentoo recommends kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 while Redhat would do: kernel /bzImage root=/dev/hda3 They don't show that the file is in /boot and they don't reference the hard drive and partition. I think part of this is because RH uses an initrd file? Maybe I am also under Gentoo now? I used genkernel the for first time last night, and I see that the Gentoo install instructions talk about this getting created. (See Code Listing 16.3) I'll go do some poking around later. this thing must be bootable, as you say, since I get to grub. Here is the difference.. If your using /boot as its own partition, you should use /kernel-blah. if your using /boot on your root partition, then its /boot/kernel-blah. What gentoo did, smartly, was just write out the above because they put on the boot drive a link. The boot - . This enables the above to work either way you want your drive.. Redhats default install separates boot, so /boot will not work in grub. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SATA grub question
Here is the difference.. If your using /boot as its own partition, you should use /kernel-blah. if your using /boot on your root partition, then its /boot/kernel-blah. What gentoo did, smartly, was just write out the above because they put on the boot drive a link. The boot - . This enables the above to work either way you want your drive.. Redhats default install separates boot, so /boot will not work in grub. Interesting. Thanks for the info! I'll get back to you this evening, either with success or more questions. I'm learning about how to use grub's find here in the office, so I hope things will go smoothly later. I forgot to say that grubs default is to look for /boot in hd0,0.. And redhat default install also puts /boot in that area.. Forgot to answer that question. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to emerge so that it recompiles all installed packages ?
Try emerge -ep.. That will show you what its going to compile.. However, there was a bug in this that it would start over after portage.. But I think it was fixed, has that been released?? I don't remember... Hi, Does anyone know how to make (or force) 'emerge' in recompiling every installed package? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to emerge so that it recompiles all installed packages ?
-- quoting Tiago Lima -- Does anyone know how to make (or force) 'emerge' in recompiling every installed package? try $ emerge -p world HTH! Greetings, Matthias It works without the -e too?? I will have to try that.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to emerge so that it recompiles all installed packages ?
yeah?? And?? I am assuming he is saying emerge world will do it.. but to make sure, do emerge -p world At 01:47 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote: Does anyone know how to make (or force) 'emerge' in recompiling every installed package? try $ emerge -p world Wait, I thought the -p option was for pretend, as in don't do it, just tell me would get done. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
