[gentoo-user] Where is (and how do I read) root's mail?

2005-03-01 Thread ME
Hi,
I feel a bit dumb here.
On my Redhat systems, when I open a root shell and have the message You 
have new mail in /root, I just type mail and there I am reading the 
messages on the command line.

With Gentoo, I get the You have new mail... message, but I don't have 
the proper application to read it (and do not know what to emerge).

Moreover, I am not able to find the messages!  I looked under /root, 
under /var and did not find any (I might just be missing them, but I 
suspect they are not getting where they should).

Can anyone let me know what to install / setup to get this going?
BTW, I have installed metalog for system logger, if that matters.
Thanks.
Marc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-19 Thread ME




Maybe I am wrong on that, but your emerge problem could be due to the
libtool config.

There is a manual fix to run after updating gcc, from a previous
message:

Probably upgraded gcc recently?
Try fix_libtool_files.sh
3.3.4 as root.
If that doesn't work try emerging libtool again, perhaps with
emerge -1 libtool.


This is sort of a recurring emerge problem that you see many people
having in the mailing list. It happened to me with a similar "No such
file" errors in the gcc-lib, the fix_libtool worked, but I am no wiz,
somebody can comment on that?

Mrc




Dennis Taylor wrote:

  Thanks to all who have responded,

I am going to try the Knoppix later today to see if I can get a better X config file.  I suspect that the probing done to get the configuration for the monitor did not work quite right.  I can probably dig some more and figure out how to get it to use a lower refresh rate or something like that to get it going if Knoppix does not happen to configure it right.  More on that later.

Meanwhile, I was not surprised that X is a requirement for the Window managers.  I thought I remembered it that way, but it has been 10 years since I played with X.  I still cannot get Gnome to emerge properly.  Does anyone have an insight into what causes the following error?  I think I have included enough of the output from the emerge to find the top most error. :-)

-

libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer  -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./rdjpgcom.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/rdjpgcom.o
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./rdjpgcom.c -o rdjpgcom.o /dev/null 21
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/wrjpgcom.o
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o libjpeg.la jcapimin.lo jcapistd.lo jctrans.lo jcparam.lo jdatadst.lo jcinit
.lo jcmaster.lo jcmarker.lo jcmainct.lo jcprepct.lo jccoefct.lo jccolor.lo jcsample.lo jchuff.lo jcphuff.lo jcdctmgr.lo
jfdctfst.lo jfdctflt.lo jfdctint.lo jdapimin.lo jdapistd.lo jdtrans.lo jdatasrc.lo jdmaster.lo jdinput.lo jdmarker.lo jd
huff.lo jdphuff.lo jdmainct.lo jdcoefct.lo jdpostct.lo jddctmgr.lo jidctfst.lo jidctflt.lo jidctint.lo jidctred.lo jdsam
ple.lo jdcolor.lo jquant1.lo jquant2.lo jdmerge.lo jcomapi.lo jutils.lo jerror.lo jmemmgr.lo jmemnobs.lo \
-rpath /usr/lib -version-info 62
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -c ./wrjpgcom.c -o wrjpgcom.o /dev/null 21
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -o rdjpgcom rdjpgcom.lo
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o rdjpgcom .libs/rdjpgcom.o
libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -o wrjpgcom wrjpgcom.lo
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o wrjpgcom .libs/wrjpgcom.o
g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/
crtbeginS.o  .libs/jcapimin.o .libs/jcapistd.o .libs/jctrans.o .libs/jcparam.o .libs/jdatadst.o .libs/jcinit.o .libs/jcm
aster.o .libs/jcmarker.o .libs/jcmainct.o .libs/jcprepct.o .libs/jccoefct.o .libs/jccolor.o .libs/jcsample.o .libs/jchuf
f.o .libs/jcphuff.o .libs/jcdctmgr.o .libs/jfdctfst.o .libs/jfdctflt.o .libs/jfdctint.o .libs/jdapimin.o .libs/jdapistd.
o .libs/jdtrans.o .libs/jdatasrc.o .libs/jdmaster.o .libs/jdinput.o .libs/jdmarker.o .libs/jdhuff.o .libs/jdphuff.o .lib
s/jdmainct.o .libs/jdcoefct.o .libs/jdpostct.o .libs/jddctmgr.o .libs/jidctfst.o .libs/jidctflt.o .libs/jidctint.o .libs
/jidctred.o .libs/jdsample.o .libs/jdcolor.o .libs/jquant1.o .libs/jquant2.o .libs/jdmerge.o .libs/jcomapi.o .libs/jutil
s.o .libs/jerror.o .libs/jmemmgr.o .libs/jmemnobs.o  -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4 -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-
pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../.. -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib
/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o  -Wl,-soname -Wl,libjpeg.so.62 -o .libs/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crti.o: No such file or directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/crtendS.o: No such file or directory
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crtn.o: No such file or directory
make: *** [libjpeg.la] Error 1

!!! ERROR: media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 43, Exitcode 2
!!! make failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

clwsapp08 root #

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo


On Thursday 17 February 2005 21:41, Dennis Taylor wrote:
  
  
I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something.  I want to run X-windows
on my 

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-17 Thread ME
Yes, you definitively have to configure Xorg before you can run Gnome or 
KDE.

Sounds like you have config problems with Xorg.
A trick you can do, if you are unsure how to setup xorg.conf, is to boot 
from a bootable linux CD (like Knoppix) and, assuming that KDE does 
launch normally, just copy the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf over to your Gentoo 
install.  You can then work from that template.

X -config did not work for me either...
Good luck,
MArc
Dennis Taylor wrote:
I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something.  I want to run X-windows on my Gentoo 
box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful.  It is unclear to me whether 
Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg.  When Gnome would not emerge without error, I 
tried first emerging/configuring Xorg-X11, but it will not configure correctly for me.  
When I run X -config, it produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all 
corrupted.  When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start and show a 
dotted background like I remember from years ago using XFree86.  The mouse 
works because moving it around moves the mouse pointer (X).  I can only get out of it 
with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and that leaves my monitor unreadable.
Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE?  If so, any ideas?
My use flags are as follows:
USE=gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly
I did an emerge --sync last week.
Dennis Taylor
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[gentoo-user] alsa problem

2005-01-12 Thread Me
I emerged alsa and got the first part, but when emerging alsa-driver-1.0.8 I
got this message:
ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
Please to make sure these options are set correctly.
Once you have satisfied these options, try emerging this package again.

But, esearch alsa showed none of the packages installed.

I'm following the docs on gentoo.org .  Any assistance, please?




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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa problem [SOLVED]

2005-01-12 Thread Me
I got it fixed.  I also found the meaning of the state file and was able to
create this, so my sound works in command mode even on re-boot.  I'm happy
now.



-Original Message-
From: Me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa problem

I emerged alsa and got the first part, but when emerging alsa-driver-1.0.8 I
got this message:
ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
Please to make sure these options are set correctly.
Once you have satisfied these options, try emerging this package again.

But, esearch alsa showed none of the packages installed.

I'm following the docs on gentoo.org .  Any assistance, please?




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[gentoo-user] kernel update

2005-01-12 Thread Me
I currently have 2.6.9-r9, and recently did emerge -uD world.  I got an
updated set of kernel headers (2.6.8-r2) and an updated set of development
sources (2.6.10-r4).  In order to use the new kernel and save the 2.6.9
(just in case), I think that I need to do:
make oldconfig
make modules_install
emerge alsa-driver (according to the alsa gentoo doc, it says that whenever
you re-compile kernel sources, this should be done - hopefully, my
/etc/asound.state, make.conf and modules.d/alsa files will be left intact)
cp bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.10-r4
cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.10-r4
cp /usr/src/2.6.10/.config /boot/config-2.6.10-r4
edit grub.conf to add the new kernel version
rm -f /usr/src/linux 
ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4 /usr/src/linux

I don't think I've left anything out. any input is greatly appreciated. I'm
somewhat new at this and don't want to have to redo anything I don't have
to.





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RE: [gentoo-user] before begining

2005-01-12 Thread Me
John~
(1) Absolutely read the handbook first.
(2) Don't skip any reading
(3) See Step 1

Continue 'listening in' to this mail-list.  It's invaluable for the
assistance.

Join #gentoo (irc) and 'listen-in' there as well.

Don't hesitate to ask any questions.

You may want to start with a less aggressive stage (3 is a good choice for
first-installs).  It's not a 'weaker path' as some may suppose, but it will
definitely give you as much of the joy without as much of the pain.

Welcome!


-Original Message-
From: John Coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] before begining

I have been reading most of the emails sent to this list for the past
couple of days because I plan to start my first attempt at installing
my gentoo system. Is there any addvice from those who have completed
this recently? It will be an amd 800 and I have been running suse for
the past year with great success, and I have tried Feddora core 1 and
previous versions of redhat.

Thanks
John Coder

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RE: [gentoo-user] kernel update

2005-01-12 Thread Me
Charlie~
Thanks very much for the sanity check.

I looked at using make oldconfig, since I've made a few changes to the
existing kernel, and didn't want to have to 'rememeber' to make all of those
changes again.
I didn't know that the emerge was only for 2.4 kernels.  But, under 2.6, for
some reason, I couldn't seem to get sound working at the commandline, and by
removing the sound from the kernel and going through the steps in the alsa
gentoo guide, I was able to get it running (and through some additional
googling, set the asound.state file to keep it running on reboot).
Yeah, I knew the arch/i386... path, I just didn't want to type it all out ;)
Being able to boot back to the 2.6.9 kernel is what I'm trying to do with as
a part of this exercise.  I had a serious problem develop on my first
install, which got so out of hand, that I re-installed.  I just don't want
that problem again.

That's the one thing I really like about gentoo.  This user-list and the irc
channel seem to be the most helpful places in the world. As soon as I can,
I'm dumping my windows boxes entirely and staying with gentoo.

Regards,

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Gehlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel update

On Thu, January 13, 2005 7:26, Me said:
 I currently have 2.6.9-r9, and recently did emerge -uD world.  I got an
 updated set of kernel headers (2.6.8-r2) and an updated set of development
 sources (2.6.10-r4).  In order to use the new kernel and save the 2.6.9
 (just in case), I think that I need to do:
 make oldconfig

I myself prefer the 'make menuconfig' config.

 make modules_install
 emerge alsa-driver (according to the alsa gentoo doc, it says that
 whenever
 you re-compile kernel sources, this should be done - hopefully, my
 /etc/asound.state, make.conf and modules.d/alsa files will be left intact)

This applies if you're using a 2.4-kernel. In 2.6, use the native 
ALSA-drivers (available under Sound).

 cp bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.10-r4

arch/i386/boot/bzImage, but I'm sure you'll find it anyway

 cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.10-r4
 cp /usr/src/2.6.10/.config /boot/config-2.6.10-r4
 edit grub.conf to add the new kernel version
 rm -f /usr/src/linux
 ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4 /usr/src/linux

 I don't think I've left anything out. any input is greatly appreciated.

IF anything didn't go well, you can always boot back to the previuos
kernel (if you kept it in grub.conf)

 I'm
 somewhat new at this and don't want to have to redo anything I don't have
 to.


Don't worry, plenty of help out here :)






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RE: [gentoo-user] kernel update

2005-01-12 Thread Me
Got a couple warnings during kernel make:
Warning: inter-module ... is deprecated.
(Actually there were three such messages. Not sure where I'd find them after
the make is over, but just wondering if there is something in the config as
of 2.6.10 that I should change before installing this.

John


-Original Message-
From: Charlie Gehlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] kernel update

On Thu, January 13, 2005 7:59, Me said:
 Charlie~
 Thanks very much for the sanity check.

 I looked at using make oldconfig, since I've made a few changes to the
 existing kernel, and didn't want to have to 'rememeber' to make all of
 those
 changes again.

If you'd like, you can run 'make menuconfig' after oldconfig to see if
there's any new bleeding egde-super options that you might be interested
to activate.

 I didn't know that the emerge was only for 2.4 kernels.  But, under 2.6,
 for
 some reason, I couldn't seem to get sound working at the commandline, and
 by
 removing the sound from the kernel and going through the steps in the alsa
 gentoo guide, I was able to get it running (and through some additional
 googling, set the asound.state file to keep it running on reboot).

I've never had any problem with native 2.6-ALSA, but I've emerged theese
packages (not needed to re-emerege after kernel-updates):

alsa-lib
alsa-utils
alsa-tools

 Yeah, I knew the arch/i386... path, I just didn't want to type it all out
 ;)

heh :p

 Being able to boot back to the 2.6.9 kernel is what I'm trying to do with
 as
 a part of this exercise.  I had a serious problem develop on my first
 install, which got so out of hand, that I re-installed.  I just don't want
 that problem again.

 That's the one thing I really like about gentoo.  This user-list and the
 irc
 channel seem to be the most helpful places in the world. As soon as I can,
 I'm dumping my windows boxes entirely and staying with gentoo.

 Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: Charlie Gehlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel update

 On Thu, January 13, 2005 7:26, Me said:
 I currently have 2.6.9-r9, and recently did emerge -uD world.  I got an
 updated set of kernel headers (2.6.8-r2) and an updated set of
 development
 sources (2.6.10-r4).  In order to use the new kernel and save the 2.6.9
 (just in case), I think that I need to do:
 make oldconfig

 I myself prefer the 'make menuconfig' config.

 make modules_install
 emerge alsa-driver (according to the alsa gentoo doc, it says that
 whenever
 you re-compile kernel sources, this should be done - hopefully, my
 /etc/asound.state, make.conf and modules.d/alsa files will be left
 intact)

 This applies if you're using a 2.4-kernel. In 2.6, use the native
 ALSA-drivers (available under Sound).

 cp bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.10-r4

 arch/i386/boot/bzImage, but I'm sure you'll find it anyway

 cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.10-r4
 cp /usr/src/2.6.10/.config /boot/config-2.6.10-r4
 edit grub.conf to add the new kernel version
 rm -f /usr/src/linux
 ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r4 /usr/src/linux

 I don't think I've left anything out. any input is greatly appreciated.

 IF anything didn't go well, you can always boot back to the previuos
 kernel (if you kept it in grub.conf)

 I'm
 somewhat new at this and don't want to have to redo anything I don't
 have
 to.


 Don't worry, plenty of help out here :)






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