Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad, kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3

[Tom Syroid]

Jose,

--On Friday, February 13, 2004 01:32:59 +0100 Jose González Gómez 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi there,

Is there anybody out there with a laptop with kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3
and a working Synaptics touchpad? I've found the following links:
I do. What, specifically, is it your looking for? Kernel conf? X config? 
It's all kinda inter-related ;-)

I'll give you what I can, but you have to start by providing some feedback 
on how far you're got, where you're stuck, etc.

One item of note: Cursor movement is still a little wild; haven't found the 
right tweak yet. But the configuration is workable.

/tom



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[gentoo-user] kdepim-3.2.0-r2 failure

[Tom Syroid]

Morning all,

OK, I'm stuck. The problem is 24 hours old and my first instinct was to 
assume it was a bug in one of the ebuilds I've merged in the last 36 hours. 
But after monitoring the list, it would appear it's a unique localized 
problem.

I'm running two Gentoo systems here very similar to several others on the 
list:

Full ~x86, one a single P3 the other a dual AthlonMP.
NPTL threading enabled on both systems.
phaedrus root # qpkg -I -v gcc
sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r6 *
sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.4 *
All latest patches/fixes/updates applied.
The build for kdepim-3.2.0-r2 craps out with:

snip<<<
checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext
checking if C++ programs can be compiled... no
configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ 
programs.
Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you 
might miss
a package named similiar to libstd++-dev.
died running ./configure, kde_src_compile:configure
*
* Your KDE program installation died while running the configure script
*

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdepim-3.2.0-r2 failed.
!!! Function configure_die, Line 170, Exitcode 0
!!! (no error message)
ends<<<
This is NOT kdepim specific, I've come to find. I can't build anything 
involving C++ code.

The weird part is, I built all the latest KDE 3.2.0 packages without error 
or incident.
I upgraded to the kdepim-3.2.0-r1 release late Wednesday.
I've downgraded to gcc-r5 -- same results.

Where to now, folks?
Suggestions, pointers, and general direction welcomed with open arms.
Best,
/tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0_test8 + Inspiron [Update 2]

[Tom Syroid]

Kevin,

Bring me up to speed on what you've done so far... when you say you can't 
get card manager working, what specifically are you doing to enable it? Do 
you have PCMCIA-CS sources installed? Do you have your /etc/init.d/net.* 
scripts auto-starting?

Best,
/tom
--On Saturday, October 25, 2003 15:30 -0700 "Kevin Miller, Jr." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think I am getting closer to getting my pcmcia card to work.  I was
able to  get the required modules for my pcmcia nic card to be detected
finally.   Still, during start up my computer cannot detect the
cardmanager.  I will  have to mess around with the /etc/conf.d/net file I
think.
On a positive note, ALSA is working:)  Wow, it is awesome!!!




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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test8 + Inspiron [UPDATE]

[Tom Syroid]

Kevin,

Try this (from my kernel .config):

#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_YENTA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
# CONFIG_I82092 is not set
# CONFIG_TCIC is not set
You could also enable any of the above (or all for that matter), and load 
them after-the-fact. At a minimum, you'll need CONFIG_PCMCIA enabled, and 
at least one bridge/bus driver. My wireless card happens to use the YENTA 
driver, so technically, I could disable CARDBUS in the above config. On my 
'round-tu-it' list ;-)

Problem with the 2.6 kernel (at least at this point in time, and with 
reference to Gentoo and their ebuilds) is that you must have PCMCIA enabled 
before PCMCIA-CS will install. And if PCMCIA-CS sees that PCMCIA is enabled 
in the kernel, all it will do is add the PCMCIA utilities. So if the 
current kernel doesn't support your bus/bridge or driver, you can't get it 
from PCMCIA-CS. I suspect we'll see (a) vendors addressing the situation, 
and (b) a PCMCIA-CS update as soon as 2.6 gets closer to "reality".

Best,
/tom
--On Friday, October 24, 2003 17:49:34 -0700 "Kevin Miller, Jr." 
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Arghh.  Can't get pcmcia to work.  Any hints?

Kevin



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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test8 + Inspiron [UPDATE]

[Tom Syroid]

Hi Dave,

--On Friday, October 24, 2003 16:26:02 -0400 David Olsen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2003-10-24 at 15:52:39, Tom Syroid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* I have the ORINOCO and ORINOCO-CS drivers comiled as modules (in my
prior  gentoo-2.4.20-r5 install, the card worked fine with the PCMCIA-CS
sources  and the ORINOCO_CS driver so I'm using this as a starting
point). * I can load the YENTA module manually, and the sockets are
recognized --  no errors.
* The ORINOCO and ORINOCO_CS modules load without error.
* If I try to start net.eth0, I get a failure error.
Why not use the linux-wlan-ng stuff?
Two reasons:

1. Last time I use the wlan drivers, it was a horrendous fight to 
configuration everything and KEEP it configured (aka WTFs in the night).

2. I firmly believe in KISS. Why add another level of driver if there's a 
driver already installed that works? Er, or -should- theoretically work ;-) 
As noted, I had the ORINOCO drivers running swell under the 
gentoo-2.4.20-r5 kernel; should work under the 2.6.0 kernel.

Having said that, if anyone can atest to their functionality under my 
current setup, I'll give 'em a go. I'm not opposed to functionality, just 
unnecessarily complex functionality. Unnecessarily complex functionality 
-will- break one day.

Best,
/tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test8 + Inspiron [UPDATE]

[Tom Syroid]

Robert, Kevin, Paul (and anyone else following this thread)...

/// NOTE: I had to strip the attachments -- you want 'em, email me off-list 
///

Mmmm. What is it about us geek-minded-folk that would inspire us to blow 
away a perfectly good working kernel configuration, start over with a new 
one, and hack on it until 3am... enrichening one's "knowledge base" is 
compelling at times, but it sure can turn into a time-sink...

Anywhoo -- time for an update.

I have a working 2.6.0 config on my Dell Inspiron 8000:

* built from 2.6.0 sources (not gentoo development sources),
* patched with mm1,
* sound works,
* my touchpad works (ie, tap for single-click, double-tap for double-click, 
scroll functionality, etc. etc; it's still a little "schitzy", but I'm 
suspect part is getting used to the new config and part is tweaking the 
XFree parameters),
* APM works (shows in KDE),
* NVIDIA driver installed and working.
* Desktop/program response is markedly improved over the 2.4.20-r5 kernel I 
was using. Nice.

NOTES:

* my kernel config is attached for anyone interested
* XF86Config attached for anyone interested
* I had to re-emerge nvidia-kernel. When I did, portage insisted on 
re-installing gentoo-sources (which I had unemerged). I worked around this 
by commenting out the virtual kernel section in the ebuild. I suspect this 
is not the "correct" way to deal with a src kernel install, but it worked.
* You don't need the alsa-driver ebuild any more (handled by the kernel); 
you do need the alsa-libs ebuild installed to achieve sound under KDE.

STILL BROKEN:

WIRELESS. My card is a Linksys WPC11. I'm 90% there, but anyone who's 
fought with wireless under Linux can attest to the fact that the last 10% 
can be a hair-pulling, long, frustrating process. At the moment, I'm 
content to be at the 90 mark; I'll tolerate the cable for the moment.

Here's what I've done so far:

* I have PCMCIA enables at the kernel level -- required to emerge the 
PCMCIA-CS sources with kernels > 2.5.x. Modules include the PCMCIA driver 
and YENTA.
* I have the ORINOCO and ORINOCO-CS drivers comiled as modules (in my prior 
gentoo-2.4.20-r5 install, the card worked fine with the PCMCIA-CS sources 
and the ORINOCO_CS driver so I'm using this as a starting point).
* I can load the YENTA module manually, and the sockets are recognized -- 
no errors.
* The ORINOCO and ORINOCO_CS modules load without error.
* If I try to start net.eth0, I get a failure error.

I've tried, literally, dozens of combinations in my quest to make wireless 
work, to no avail. If anyone's got any "good ideas", I'll give them a shot.

Best,
/tom
--On Thursday, October 23, 2003 15:32:30 -0400 Robert Crawford 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tom & Kevin,
If someone doesn't post a working .config for the Dells, and you still
have  problems after trying again a few times, maybe someone will
configure one for  you. It's not hard (once you've done a bunch of them,
and know what all the  options are, and know your hardware), and only
takes 5-10 minutes. If you do  need this, post any peripherals you need
working, and how in general you wish  to use the computer- I'm sure
you'll get some help.
Robert Crawford


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[gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test8 + Inspiron

[Tom Syroid]

Good day,

I'd like to take another stab at the 2.6.x kernel series on my Dell 
Inspiron (8000). While I'm hardly a newbie, the last time I tried to 
configure a 2.5/6 kernel on this system, I was somewhat -less- than 
successful; after two days I gave up in disgust ;-)

Anyone on the list have .config file they'd be willing to share as a 
starting point? Feel free to email me offlist if so desired.

Best,
/tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] Zope/Plone

[Tom Syroid]

Thanks for the response, Jean...

--On Friday, August 08, 2003 01:27:49 +0200 Jean Jordaan 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I can't log in to the admin account, no
way - no how. I've tried the zpasswd.py command/script.
This password should get you in at
   http://:/manage
i.e. the root of the Zope server. Now you're logged in to Zope's
management interface. This is quite seperate from Plone. In this
root, you probably need to add a Plone instance, let's say with
the id plone. Then you should browse to
   http://:/plone and join the plone site
there.
Nope. Doesn't work as advertised for me...

===snip===
phaedrus root # /etc/init.d/zope stop
* Stopping zope... 
[ ok ]
phaedrus root # cd /usr/share/zope/zope*
phaedrus zope-2.6.1 # ls
Makefile  access  inituser  lib   setup.py   stupid_clean  w_pcgi.py 
wo_pcgi.py   z2.py   zpasswd.py
ZServer   import  inst  pcgi  setup.pyc  utilities w_pcgi.pyc 
wo_pcgi.pyc  z2.pyc  zpasswd.pyc
phaedrus zope-2.6.1 # ./zpasswd.py inituser
Username: zopeadmin
Password:
Verify password:

Please choose a format from:

SHA - SHA-1 hashed password (default)
CRYPT - UNIX-style crypt password
CLEARTEXT - no protection
Encoding: SHA
Domain restrictions:
phaedrus zope-2.6.1 # /etc/init.d/zope start
* Starting zope... 
[ ok ]
phaedrus zope-2.6.1 # nmap localhost

Starting nmap 3.30 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2003-08-07 18:05 CST
Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
(The 1637 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port   State   Service
22/tcp openssh
111/tcpopensunrpc
873/tcpopenrsync
971/tcpopenunknown
3306/tcp   openmysql
6000/tcp   openX11
8080/tcp   openhttp-proxy
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2.089 seconds
phaedrus zope-2.6.1 #
===ends===
So Zope is listening on 8080.
I fire up my browser and enter: http://localhost:8080. Gets me the start 
page (so I know everything is working). Then I go to 
http://localhost:8080/manage. Get me a login prompt. Enter the exact same 
username/password entered above, and it won't let me in.

Seems like this should be an easy problem to solve, but it hasn't been so 
far.

If it's nothing I'm missing, I'll file a bug report -- might be something 
amiss with the installation process. For one, the ebuild should spit out 
the admin username/password set by default during the install.

Best,
/tom
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[gentoo-user] Zope/Plone

[Tom Syroid]

OK, I'm thoroughly stumped and can't find an answer on any of the Plone 
message lists.

I installed Zope/Plone today to evaluate it for a pending project.

Emerged without error.

No admin user password provided in the install script (documentation says 
it should be displayed). I can't log in to the admin account, no way - no 
how. I've tried the zpasswd.py command/script. Won't let me log in with the 
password supplied. Tried adding a "superuser" passwd. No Joy. Tried 
re-installing and watching the install script. Nada.

Could someone *please* tell me what the default manager password is for 
Plone. Looks like an interesting project; I just hate to be derailed by 
something as simple as this...

TIA,
/tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] SUMMARY: Kernel 2.6.0 test1 Exploits

[Tom Syroid]

Kurt,

--On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:30:26 -0400 Kurt Bechstein 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have you installed module-init-tools?
I am now ;-) I changed my make profile to ~x86. module-init-tools was not 
previously installed; installing it now along with everything else to bring 
my system up to date.

Best,
/tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] SUMMARY: Kernel 2.6.0 test1 Exploits

[Tom Syroid]

Jason,

--On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 13:43:34 +0900 Jason Stubbs 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Did you make a symlink from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-test1-2.6.0
or  whatever it is? When you re-emerge nvidia-kernel, it looks at your
kernel  version via the kernel source at that symlink and if it is above
2.5.something it applies a patch. I don't know if the modutils will make
a  difference because I emerged them before emerging an unstable kernel.
I'm  running mm-sources, btw.
Yes I did. /usr/src/linux points to /usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test1.

I'm currently emerging the modutils from ~x86 -- we'll see if that makes a 
difference. There's definitely something amiss with my modutils 
functionality regarding the 2.6 kernel (works fine under 
gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5). I'll keep hacking away. I'll either solve the 
problem or break something trying ;-)

/tom



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Re: [gentoo-user] SUMMARY: Kernel 2.6.0 test1 Exploits

[Tom Syroid]

Scott,

--On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 03:25:55 -0600 Scott Carmichael 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Update your portage tree... Cuz I got nvidia-kernel working fine on 2.6.0
I did -- late last night. My system is set to 'stable' for the moment 
(~arch). My current nvidia package is 1.0.4363-r2. Same as yours?

Perhaps it's something to do with the new modutils package for 2.5/6 Dan 
Foster pointed me to...

Thanks for the input.

/tom

//  Scott Carmichael - http://jobe.ca/

Tom Syroid said on 07.15.03 at 22:33:

Evening all,

Just a quick note to recap -- for anyone interested -- my exploits with
2.6.0 over the past 24 hours (with thanks to Terje for his encouragement
;-).




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Re: [gentoo-user] SUMMARY: Kernel 2.6.0 test1 Exploits

[Tom Syroid]

Dan,

--On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 04:46:13 + Dan Foster 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Doesn't grub require you to enter the decimal equivalent? vga=794 might
be a better option?
I'll give it a try. Wasn't aware of this, but thanks for the insight.


* Using /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4:
*   Loading module emu10k1...
*   Failed to load emu10k1
FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.0-test1/modules.dep: No such file
or  directory
Did you install and use the new modutils package? Required for 2.6, I
hear.
Is this in ~86? (I've got the system on 'stable' at the moment)? Do you 
have a package name?

Best,
/tom


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[gentoo-user] SUMMARY: Kernel 2.6.0 test1 Exploits

[Tom Syroid]

Evening all,

Just a quick note to recap -- for anyone interested -- my exploits with 
2.6.0 over the past 24 hours (with thanks to Terje for his encouragement 
;-).

I've managed to enable what I'll call "quasi" fb support -- that is, small 
fonts similar to what one would get with fb buffer/video selection enabled 
and a GRUB kernel option of vga=791. This is important to me as I do a lot 
of work from the command line, and I've gotten used to having lots of real 
estate to work in.

Here's the pertinent .config options:

# Graphics support

CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=Y
CONFIG_PCI_CONSOLE=y
Which nets me a font somewhat smaller than fb/vga=791.

In grub.conf, appended to my kernel line, I have:

video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x31A

A couple further observations:

- rsync hung hard on my tonight during a routine backup/transfer under 
2.6.0 -- never done this under 2.4.20. I'll have to investigate this one 
further
- my init process serves up the following errors:

===snip===
* Mounting proc at /proc...
* No /sys to mount sysfs needed in 2.5+ kernels!
* Using /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4:
*   Loading module emu10k1...
*   Failed to load emu10k1
FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.0-test1/modules.dep: No such file or 
directory
===ends===

- anyone know if I have to manually create the /sys directory? Bug? 
[creating the /sys directory removes the error -- tested as I was writing 
this]
- apparently the init scripts are looking for the ../kernel-2.4 module dir. 
Bug?
- I compiled SBLive support direct into the kernel -- no joy. No sound.
- the current nvidia kernel will not compile against 2.6.0 -- you'll have 
to use the default XFree nv driver.
- If you've got your mouse threshold up (mine was at 6), cursor movement 
under 2.6 is erratic and skitzy. Drop it back to the default of about 3 and 
you'll be good to go.

All else appears "normal" at this time. More as I learn more.

Best,
/tom
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[gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 Test

[Tom Syroid]

I'm preparing to build/test the new 2.6 kernel on my dual Athlon box. I'm 
current running gentoo-sources 2.4.20-r5.

My question is this: In the past it's been noted on numerous occasions the 
importance of having the link /usr/src/linux pointing to the current kernel 
before configuration. Does this advice also apply to the 2.5.x series 
kernels, linked as "linux-beta"?

In other words, do I need to create a /usr/src/linux symlink to the 2.6 
test directory, or will the existing linux-beta symlink suffice?

Best,
/tom
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[gentoo-user] [OT] The Computer Geek Diet

[Tom Syroid]

Morning all,

As an humorous change of pace to all the serious "stuff" that's been tossed 
around on this list over the past week or so, check out Nick Petreley's 
LinuxWorld column this week:

j

In particular, the Gentoo Geek Calorie Guide:

Gentoo Linux calories
Installing Gentoo for the first time: 3,700 calories
Installing Gentoo for the second time: 200 calories
Compiling and installing most software on Gentoo Linux: 30 calories
Updating most installed software on Gentoo Linux: 6 calories
Tapping fingers waiting for GNOME or KDE to compile on Gentoo Linux: 1,200 
calories
Tapping fingers waiting for an rsync server to become available: 4,700 
calories
Tapping fingers waiting for OpenOffice to compile properly on Gentoo: 2,300 
calories
Smacking head against wall after you find out there's a binary version 
available: 6,200 calories

Be well, and Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadians!

/tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages Downgraded??

[Tom Syroid]

What gives is you updated Portage, which in turn updated /etc/make.conf, 
and you probably elected to overwrite your old file with the new shiny one.

Try putting back the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag.

/tom

--On Wednesday, February 26, 2003 18:22:58 -0800 Arlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I just updated portage and did a web-rsync; rsync.  But for some reason
a bunch of packages downgraded.  Here's a partial list, there are about
[snip]
What gives?


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