Re: [gentoo-user] What doesnt work with 2.6 ?

2004-02-04 Thread Troy Dack
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 15:00, HvR wrote:
 apparently LVM doesnt work under 2.6 or did i miss some config
 setting?
 

It's now EVMS and you need Device Mapper Support and the evms tools. 
EVMS can handle lvm without any problems.

Visit evms.sf.net for the good oil.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 13:36, Tommi Pirinen wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: 
  Hi,
  
  On Saturday 31 January 2004 20:30, Jerry McBride wrote:

   2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and emerge
   updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above.
   
  Well, I had some severe problems the last days with X, glibc and others (nptl 
  related, big downgrade and recompile time, wohooo plus a mulish X emerge, 
  dying again and again). And this 'garbage' becomes realy useful, if you want 
  to circumvent (or simply find!) the error that is holding you back for hours.

 You're just underlining the point here. The garbage only becomes
 useful in exceptional situation thus it need not be shown in typical
 compilations but might be available elsewhere whenever needed. The
 reasoning behind showing much carbage on every compilation is that
 only devs and experts would ever compile their own products.

So how did you install Gentoo?

  It is obvious that such a mechanism has not been developed with
 gentoo-like solution in mind.

The compilation system was around long before Gentoo.

Since Gentoo is primarily a from source distribution then seeing how a
package is built is part of the process.

If you don't like it, pick another distro, use the GRP packages and
don't compile anything yourself or write some code and submit patches.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome apps under kde

2004-01-31 Thread Troy Dack
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 22:10, Karl Huysmans wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Have been looking everywhere, still can't find a solution to this
 problem:
 
 I run KDM and a KDE desktop, but I do use some Gnome gtk2 apps
 (Evolution, Mozilla compiled with gtk2, ...).
 
 To change theme and font settings for these Gnome apps, I open
 gnome-control-center from a shell. Lots of  GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL and
 GLib-GObject-CRITICAL error messages, but Control Center opens.
 
 Open Theme preferences and I get  this:
 Window manager warning: Failed to read theme from file
 /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml: Failed to open file
 '/usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml': No such file or
 directory.
 
 Adjust the settings for theme and fonts, everything OK.
 
 But on next KDE login, settings are lost. Open Control Center again
 (same errors as above), double-clicking on either Font or Theme icons in
 Control Center immediately restores all of my previously made changes.
 
 When I open a Gnome session with the same user, everything is as I had
 set in Control Center.
 
 Tried doing the same with a freshly created user, same problem, so it is
 not user related.
 
 I have several Gentoo boxes, on some of them I have this problem, on
 others not.
 
 Any ideas? 

In ~/.kde/Autostart create a shortcut to run gnome-settings-daemon ..
this should give your gtk apps the settings they need

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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-01-31 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:30, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Is anyone takling suggestions for Gentoo improvements???
 
 A few I would like to see... in order...
 
 
 1-PROGRESS BARS... man-o-man would I love a progress bar during an emerge 
 update, instead of all the text that gets listed to console. And updating 
 portage cache... WOW. That's a real friendly, informative screen update. :') 
 Maybe just expanding the existing -quiet switch in emerge would be better?

Patches do exist for this and I'm sure a brief session with google would
find them.  Try checking bugs.gentoo.org or forums.gentoo.org

 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and emerge 
 updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above.

As others have stated, this can be achieved by simple redirection, and
if you want add it as an alias for your shell.

 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time, on maybe 
 a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I really have issue 
 with the manner of organizing the system startup scripts. Could we please, 
 use something more granular, more static? Like the good, old fashion SystemV 
 stuff that they used in Caldera Open Linux? KDE ships with a SysV editor that 
 would be a PERFECT match for something like this. I'm so tired of booting the 
 laptops at work and wating for the CACHING to complete... If nothing else 
 is done, please see PROGRESS BARS above.

If you have an issue with the gentoo rc-scripts then I suggest you pick
a different distro. This is how gentoo does it. - full stop.  The
gentoo rc-script system is one (of many) reasons that a great deal of
people move to gentoo.

Progress bars, see www.bootsplash.org and then emerge bootsplash and a
patched kernel (gentoo-sources or gentoo-dev-sources), rebuild kernel,
make an initrd (or copy one the ebuild provides), edit
grub.conf/menu.lst and you are good to go.

 4-DEVFS is a horrible beast... Have odd hardware? Have odd drivers? You gotta' 
 edit the devfs config file... Blah... Please go back to using a static /dev 
 directory like Linus intended. :') It's one of the FIRST things I remove from 
 my Gentoo installs and it's s much better.

You don't have to use devfs, add gentoo=nodevfs to your kernel boot
options.

 Anyone willing to work/collaborate with me on implementing suggestion 3? 
 
 The SysV stuff is pretty well documented on the net, the Open Linux stuff can 
 still be found on the net too. All that needs to be done is developing an 
 ebuild that wipes out the gentoo hack and slides in a decent startup script 
 package that supports the gentoo layout. Do we really need dependencies in 
 the startup scripts???

Since you don't seem to like it then I'd suggest you start hacking on
the baselayout ebuild and provide patches to give people an alternative,
say baselayout-systemv.

It's a little more than a gentoo hack and I feel that it is a decent
startup script, I no longer have to try and fit things in between other
services, renumber them to get the order right, and all that hassle. 
Add script to whichever runlevel I want and the script starts the
services at the appropriate time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SCO gets personal!

2003-09-17 Thread Troy Dack
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 00:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Apologies if ye think this is off-topic but have you seen this?
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/32798.html
 
 I wonder if all this hype is still inflating their stock price? I think we
 should all pretend they don't exist and ignore their noise.
 
 This makes me feel like learning how to set up DDOS attacks myself!
 

Next time you want to practice your DDOS techniques please don't do it
on public mailing lists with an auto responder!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Finding Files in packages

2003-09-08 Thread Troy Dack
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:07, Brett I.Holcomb wrote:
 Thank you for the information.  I might file a bug requesting that the tools 
 support non-installed.  Even if they made epm capable that would help but it 
 may not be possible.
 
 I could use the last method but then I have to do the download and check it 
 out.  
 
 Thanks.  I'll have to think about this.
 

The major problem with getting this sort of functionality lies in
exactly why most people install Gentoo, flexibility.

To get a database of files that *any* package provides would require a
system that was built with every USE flag turned on.  This is because
the functionality of many packages and therefore the files that it
installs are effected by *your* USE flag settings.

 (ok, not every one, because some conflict, but you get the idea)

With RH, Debian or MDK all packages that get installed by an end user
are built with the same settings, this allows things like rpmfind.net to
be viable.

With GRP packages it should be possible to build a database of what
package provides what files, and query this, but I expect it would be
something that is maintained outside of portage because not everyone
will have (or want) all the GRP packages available to them.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test2 results

2003-08-02 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 01:57, Collins Richey wrote:
 Also, AFAIK, there is no support yet for nvidia cards.  I'm using the nv
 support built into xfree.  Since I'm not a gamester, that's no big deal.

emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx

The patches are applied in the ebuild if you are running a 2.5/2.6
kernel when you do the emerge

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Re: [gentoo-user] PDF Server

2003-03-27 Thread Troy Dack
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 18:34, Jimmie Fulton wrote:
 I wrote my pdf (and jpg printer) script in Python... to each his own.
 :)  Its at work behind a firewall; maybe I'll post it later if I
 remember.
 
 The script is a cups backend.  (I did it this way so that Netatalk can
 share the same cups printer that samba uses.)  It uses the arguments
 sent from samba to determine the user and filename that is printed.  I
 am able to get filenames from just about any program, including
 AutoCAD.  30x48 PDFs/JPEGs from AutoCAD. :)  I use regular expressions
 to clean out unacceptable windows filename characters, and to change
 stuff like Microsoft Project - Pennzoil 3rd Floor.mpp to Pennzoil 3rd
 Floor.mpp.  I also check for files that already exist by the same name
 and append a sequence number to new files if needed so that nothing gets
 overwritten.  Taking the username, I have the script create a folder for
 each user (the first time they make a print) on a mounted Windows share;
 you could easily store the share on the Linux box, of course.  The file
 has a .tmp extension until the file is completely written, in which it
 is changed to .pdf or .jpg.  As far as security goes, it is possible to
 have the script change the permission on the file (or containing
 directory) based on the user that printed it.
 
 I use AdobePS drivers, which I have set up to download automatically to
 new windows clients directly from the Linux box, just like a standard
 Windows Print Server (Point-and-Print).

Jimmie,
I'd really like to take a look at the python script and the Samba/CUPS
config.  This is something that I have been wanting to implement but
haven't been able to get all the bits into the right places
(particularly the automagic driver download for Windows clients).

Please feel free to drop me a line off list if you don't want to make it
public.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Building a quot;single purposequot; machine

2003-03-13 Thread Troy Dack

Michael W. Holdeman said:
 OK here is what I want to do. I have a TP600, 12gig drive, wireless
 card. I  have 1 windows program to run that is used in the ambulance for
 filing out  Prehospital EMS reports in the ambo, then transfers teh file
 to the server in  teh station when it comes back, into range of the
 802.11b AP.
 I really have had very good luck with Win4Lin and Gentoo for this, but
 this  machine will ONLY be running that app, so.
 I'd like to build Gentoo w/xfree, but no kde (no prob so far) but have
 it when  booted automatically log in as a user and start win4lin and teh
 EMS prog. Anyone have any luck or suggestions for doing this?


The starting of the application automatically shouldn't be too hard,
~/.xinitrc or something like that should be able to accomplish it.  Doing
it this way may require you to run X from the console (ie: startx) instead
of using a graphical login.

As for logging in as a user, you might be able to do something using
/etc/inittab

You said no kde, but 

Using KDEs KDM it has an automagic login function/setting to login a user
automatically when kdm starts.  You can also put files in ~/.kde/Autostart
that will be run as kde starts.  Additionally you can hide the kicker (bar
at the bottom).

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia - starting from scatch

2003-03-12 Thread Troy Dack
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:19, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 It works,
 
 after installing the 4191.ebuild's the nvidia load perfect!!
 
 Before sending my last e-mail i have read the portage manual again but the solution 
 you give me are not in there.
 Where can i find more info on the portage and emerge/ebuild.
 

man ebuild
man 5 ebuild
man emerge
emerge --help
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/docs.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] restart Apache on ip change

2003-03-12 Thread Troy Dack

Denny Schierz said:
 hi,

 how can i restart apache automatically, if the ip from rp-pppoe has
 changed.

 i put into the ip-up /etc/init.d/apache restart but it does not work.
 I think, that pppd doesn't check (rp-pppoe restart itself), that the ip
 has changed.

Try /etc/ppp/ip-up.local and ip-down.local

I remember digging those out of the rp-pppoe scripts somewhere and they
work for me

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Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office packages

2003-03-08 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 16:14, Jason Giangrande wrote:
 Does anyone know the differences between the openoffice package and the
 openoffice-bin package?
 

OpenOffice - takes about 2 days to build
OpenOffice-bin - takes about 10 minutes to install

-bin is pre-compiled the binary package available from openoffice.org

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yellow star.

2003-03-03 Thread Troy Dack
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 00:35, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
 On Monday 03 March 2003 14:30, Sigurd Stordal wrote:
  I get a yellow star whe emerging perl doing an emerge -e world.
  I seems to remember something about it on this list earlier, but can't find
  it when I look at the mail list archives.
  So anyone knows what is wrong.
 
 
 This is a bug in portage, the system logging code does not work with empty 
 strings. For now pressing ^D at each star works
 
 Paul

Edit /etc/init.d/functions.sh and look for the logger line.  Replace:
 $*
with
$*


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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 problems

2003-03-01 Thread Troy Dack
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 23:51, efejta wrote:
 My system seems to be having issues...when I try to update libperl, it halts:
 
 example output:
 
 # emerge --update libperl
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
  emerge (1 of 4) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to /
  md5 ;-) perl-5.8.0.tar.gz
  *
 
 
 the yellow star just stays there an nothing happens.  Running top shows now 
 activity by python or anything else suggesting the script is doing something.  
 What is going on?
 
 Also, I am having the same escape character problem with man pages, but I am 
 hoping it has to do with the fact that I interrupted an emerge --update 
 world...but etc-update doesn't tell me I need to do anything.

To fix:
1. open /etc/init.d/functions.sh in your editor
2. change the following line:
/usr/bin/logger -p ${pri} -t ${tag} -- $*
   to:
/usr/bin/logger -p ${pri} -t ${tag} -- $*
3. save functions.sh

You should now be good to go


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade

2003-02-27 Thread Troy Dack

Timothy James Friesen said:
 Hello all,

 I emerged kernel 2.4.20-rc1 today.  /usr/src/linux still points to my
 2.4.19-rc10 kernel.  What should I do about this?

The symlink has to be made manually by you.  Some people like to have
multiple kernel trees for testing different things so the ebuilds do not
mess with your symlinks.

You can manually add a couple of commands to /etc/conf.d/local.start to
make the symlink at boot time, uname -r will give you the version of the
running kernel

  I assume I should
 only  unmerge 2.4.19-rc10 after succesfully compiling 2.4.20-rc1.

Unmerging the kernel will only remove the sources in
/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-rc10 not the actual kernel that you installed into
/boot.  But it is a good idea to keep it around until you get your new
kernel successfully built and booted.

 Also.  Will emerge -u world take me to the altest 1.4-rc3 release once
 all the  mirrors catch up, or will I have to do another emerge command?

See the seperate email that I'm posting here shortly.

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo releases and what they mean to you!

2003-02-27 Thread Troy Dack
OK, in an attempt to stop the 95 million posts asking how to upgrade to
the latest Gentoo Release Candidate please read on

   ****
  *Gentoo Releases are essentially only relevant to the LiveCD.*
   ****

Once you have chosen a profile and done:
   emerge sync
   emerge --update world

You will have the *latest* Gentoo installed on your system.

This contrasts with a distro like Red Hat where they release a version and
then bug fixes for that version.

Because the LiveCD only has a minimal number of applications that install
from it when you emerge --update world *all* versions of your installed
software that have an upgrade available, will be upgraded.

In summary:

 If you have done:
 emerge sync

 recently then you are up to date, don't sweat it.



Note:
If you would like to assist the developers please download the latest
LiveCD and do an installation.  If you get any errors, please let the
developers know by submitting a bug @ bugs.gentoo.org (remember to do
a search first, someone may have the same problem)

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Re: [gentoo-user] IMAP USE flag

2003-02-20 Thread Troy Dack
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 14:06, Andrew Dacey wrote:
 I actually ran into this awhile back but hadn't had the chance to look into
 it further at the time. But now I've got a fresh box installed and I'm
 coming across it again. I plan to run IMAP on this box so I added imap to my
 use flags. What I'm noticing though is that when I go to install a package
 that can use IMAP (like PHP), it wants to install uw-imap. I haven't yet
 decided which IMAP server I want to use, but this seems to force me into
 using uw-imap. My options seem to be:

I think you will find that this only happens with PHP.  From memory PHP
*needs* some of the headers (or something like that) that are installed
with uw-imap and these do not come with courier-imap.

I've come across this myself and wondered the same thing.

I did try this:
emerge php
emerge unmerge uw-imap php
emerge courier-imap
emerge --nodeps php
and PHP failed to build.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync mirror

2003-02-15 Thread Troy Dack
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 19:46, Robert Cole wrote:
 I'm trying to setup my own personal mirror so I can setup multiple
 machines without busting my bandwidth.

 The documentation has massive holes in it. For example it appears that
 an http server is needed but the rsync mirror docs for gentoo say
 nothing about that. 

A http server is only needed if you want to be a mirror for distfiles as
well as the portage tree.

The easiest way to share your portage tree and source files across
multiple computers on a local network is with nfs.

Put something like this in /etc/exports:

  /path/to/portage  192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,sync)

Then on each of your client machines add the following to /etc/fstab:

  server:/path/to/portage  /usr/portage  nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192  0 0

On both server and client make sure that you have portmap and nfs added
to the boot runlevel (rc-update add portmap boot; rc-update add nfs
boot)

Now when you rsync from *any* machine the portage tree will be update. 
When you emerge a package from *any* machine the source files will be
saved in distfiles and be available to all machines.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I sort mail easily?

2003-01-30 Thread Troy Dack

Collins Richey said:
 On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:20:33 -0600 (CST)
 Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for a way to sort incoming mail (mail recvd from
 fetchmail) easily.

 el snippo 

 Unless you have a need to forward mail for others, I would suggest that
 you forget about procmail/sendmail et al

Yep, if you have no more than a handful of users then don't worry about
procmail etc...

 and just emerge sylpheed.
 Sylpheed has filtering capability to store your mail in separate folders
 by a variety of criteria, and it works just fine.  You need GTK+ and a
 few graphics packages.  Do emerge -p sylpheed to see what is required.

Linux has a wealth of Mail User Agents (MUAs) that can do this sort of
thing now.  Emerge them and see which one you like.  Here's a list.

Mozilla Mail (part of Mozilla)
  - can filter incoming messages
  - integrated GnuPG support
  - can also display nntp in the same client

Evolution
  - full featured PIM similar to MS Outlook
  - integrated GnuPG support
  - search function and Virtual folders is excellent
  - doesn't do nntp
  - can work with Exchange servers with a plugin from ximian.com

Sylpheed (and Sylpheed-claws)
  - Same sort of features as the other two
  - integrated GnuPG support
  - can also display nntp in the same client
  - -claws is a fork of sorts that has extra features not in the
normal sylpheed

KMail
  - Default KDE MUA
  - similar features to all the others
  - doesn't do nntp (use KNode)

Balsa
  - Never used this one but I think it is Gnome/gtk based

For IMAP use I've found sylpheed to be rather unkind on my slow old IMAP
server, but that is just my experience.

-- 
 Troy Dack

 http://linux.tkdack.com



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