RE: [gentoo-user] su: Permission denied!
-Original Message- From: JurLan Sterling Chavis wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I read that you need to be a member of the wheel group before you can use su. You're right :) That wasn't what happened in my case. I could use su, it just wouldn't let me su to root. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Virus's
I get them all the time. I figure it is because I responded to one of those cheesy "you won the lotto" spams (or maybe it was a Nigerian spammer). I just wanted to see what response I would get. -Original Message-From: Nicholas Hockey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:15 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [gentoo-user] Virus'sdoes anybody else on this mailing list get slammed by the "Microsoft Update" virus going around, i'm trying to figure out why i get nailed by it all the time, and i apologize for the apparent list spam. ( i believe the virus is called swen or gibe ) -- Many a man who thinks he's going on a maiden voyage with a woman finds out later that it was just a shake-down cruise. -- Nicholas Hockey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Encrypted E-Mail preferred
RE: [gentoo-user] To upgrade or Not/to upgrade the kernel??
You can keep both kernel versions around and reload the last one if you are having trouble. However, every time you switch, you will have to re-emerge packages which contain kernel modules (ati-drivers for me). -Original Message- From: Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] To upgrade or Not/to upgrade the kernel?? Hello, Is it safe to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to 2.4.22-gentoo-r2? This is a grey area for me still. I'm slowly gaining experience though. Where does one look to find out what has changed from 1 version of specific kernel sources to the next. I suppose this would also help in justifying an upgrade. I'm alittle sqeemish or apprehensive in upgrading because 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 has been working fine for the last 4 months without issue. Last time I upgraded it seemed like a bunch of stuff broke and had to be remerged. Foomatic, iptables, and some others. I don't know if this is because I'm a newb but it was very frustrating trying to get my system, firewall, printing,,, ect.. ect.. in working order again. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Mouse speed in enemy-territory
This probably a useless response, but here goes. Usually the game's mouse sensitivity is independent of desktop settings. It is this way for me and ut2003. Usually in games you can adjust the sensitivity beyond what it's GUI allows in it's config file. To fix your problem, I would look there first. Also, there is probably a kernel setting where you can adjust this. At some point in the 2.6test series, there was a kernel that made my movements jerky. The next release changed back to normal. That is why I think that you could adjust some setting and recompile kernel. -Nathan Van Eps -Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber I have configured my KDE to use a rather fast mouse acceleration. When I play enemy territory I set the mouse sensitivity to max and it still feels quite slow. Slower then on the desktop. When I ran Suse I had the mouse sensitivity at a little more than half, which was fast enough. Now with gentoo it is much slower. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] To upgrade or Not/to upgrade the kernel??
-Original Message- From: Joshua Banks --- Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) You can keep both kernel versions around and reload the last one if you are having trouble. However, every time you switch, you will have to re-emerge packages which contain kernel modules (ati-drivers for me). How do I know which packages contain kernel modules??? Is there a way for me to check before loading the new Kernel sources so I know what needs to be remerged again? I don't know of a quick way. You would have to search the installed packages to see which ones drop files in /lib/modules. Perhaps someone else knows a better way? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Mouse speed in enemy-territory
-Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:55:00 -0600 , Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This probably a useless response, but here goes. :) Usually the game's mouse sensitivity is independent of desktop settings. It is this way for me and ut2003. Usually in games you can adjust the sensitivity beyond what it's GUI allows in it's config file. To fix your problem, I would look there first. I already did set the mouse in the game, but I don' t see any difference. Did you check the config file? I remember the GUI in quake would only allow me to set the sensitivity to a capped number (for example 4). I edited the config file to set it to something higher (for example 8). The one for ut2003 is something like .ut2003/ut2003.ini. Just making sure you saw that part of my post, Nathan Also, there is probably a kernel setting where you can adjust this. At some point in the 2.6test series, there was a kernel that made my movements jerky. The next release changed back to normal. That is why I think that you could adjust some setting and recompile kernel. I know that there is one mouserelated option, I check if I can find something there. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: A good book on C Programming?
-Original Message- From: Gavin Henry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: A good book on C Programming? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, During my degree, BEng (Hons) Electronics and Communications Engineering, we did C programming every year, but I never kept it up, as I had no interest and didn't see the point. But now I really want to get back into it as I see a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write something or help on some projects etc. I need some good books. I used to have one called A Book On C, but sold it, and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted websites. Anyone have any recommendations? This book: http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?us erid=2VU1IVSMPQbtob=Yisbn=0131103628TXT=Yitm=1 It is rather terse, but since you have some experience with C, it might be best. One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more with GNU/Linux? I would say C is more often used than C++. But I have no facts to back that up. :( Regardless, learning C is a step in learning C++. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation
-Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:33 -0600, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shouldn't have to build and install Mesa. The program opengl-update just changes some links from /usr/lib to another directory. The files for your mesa build are still there. Just not linked to libGL in /usr/lib. FYI, the mesa files are built when you build xfree. I just noticed. Thanks. I now renamed the agpgart.o module so X can't find it and now KDE works again. I really wonder about how it works. In my X-config file I have still fglrx, and the module is loaded, but it is no longer used since I disabled agpgart. But then how does X run? I thought I would have to have at least change the module to radeon. There are two modules built for X within the ati-drivers package. The regular one and the DRI one. The regular one is for 2D stuff and it is working for you. The DRI one is for OpenGL and is not working for you. Did you install a new kernel version? FYI, you have to re-emerge ati-drivers when you do that (because a kernel module is built within that package). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation
You shouldn't have to build and install Mesa. The program opengl-update just changes some links from /usr/lib to another directory. The files for your mesa build are still there. Just not linked to libGL in /usr/lib. FYI, the mesa files are built when you build xfree. I'd look up the directory where the Mesa files are kept, but I don't have my Gentoo box in front of me. I'll do it when I get home tonight. -Nathan Standard Disclaimer: The above statements are my current understanding of the gentoo platform. I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:51:43 -0600, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opengl-update xfree does switch back to mesa (the one merged into xfree). But then why doesn't it work again? When you unmerged the ati-drivers, did you switch the driver in XFree86 from fglrx to the ati (or radeon, i can never remember which) one? It's radeon and no I did not. If Mesa is used I don't need to switch back because the driver fglrx works as long as I don't use the OpenGL lib provided by ATI. I looked into the /usr/lib directory and there the libGL.so.1.2 is still the one from ATI. How can I force to build and install Mesa? -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] X and numlock
-Original Message- From: Redeeman hmm, i start X, and numlock isnt on.. how to make it become that automatically? any ideas? I believe there is an option in the XF86Config config file to turn this on. I'm not at a linux box, so I can't look this up. I'd either use the man page or look at an example XF86Config file. -Nathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Availabillity of gentoo
Uhh...No, I don't know how to remove you from this newsgroups. Sorry and have a nice day. -Original Message- From: croz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Availabillity of gentoo CAN SOMEONE MOTHERFUCKING TELL ME HOW TO GET MYSELF OFF THIS DAMN NEWSGROUPS UR ALL MORONS ASKING DUMBASS QUESTIONS. YOUR STUPID. FUCK! TELL ME HOW TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THIS SHITHOLE! I FORGOT !!$*(!$ FUCK YOU ALL! - Original Message - From: Gerhard W. Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Availabillity of gentoo I was wondering on how gentoo is financed and kept running. Up till now I was using Suse which is pretty stable and I can expect that Sue will continue living. In the worst case it will probably be bought (like now from Novell) but the distribution itself will survive. I now installed gentoo last week in a seperate installation to get a feel for it and I like it because it solves some issues I have with Suse. The only thing I wonder about is if I can expect gentoo being still available in a year (so to speak). I would hate to change to a distribution and after some time it dies and I will have to switch again. -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Nick Fisher GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Tom Wesley On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 21:43, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: -Original Message- From: Nick Fisher GNOME KDE use flags Ok... so there are gnome and kde USE flags. The descriptions aren't too informative... things like 'adds support for gnome'. Now as I understand it XFCE is quite gnome like... should I then use the -gnome flag when compiling X apps to use in XFCE? Or is using that flag only going to be populating some directory only gnome uses? You want -gnome and -kde, since you would never use those features. The gnome and kde add stuff like session management, which XFCE doesn't use. FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... Is it gnome/kde session management or XFCE session management? I assume the stuff that you have is specific to XFCE, so he should still use -gnome and -kde. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags (-gnome-gtk2) and XFCE questions
-Original Message- From: Nick Fisher FYI, XFCE4 has session management that is masked in portage, but works perfectly here... Session management? I'm not 100% what you mean in this context what 'session' is being managed in what way? Are we talking about the X session? As in the state of the session is managed so that I can shutdown, reboot and have the desktop back the way I left it? Exactly. Do kde, gnome and xfce all do this differently? You are getting into a fuzzy are of my knowledge, but here goes. Any X window manager can remember window size and position. In this way, kde, gnome, and xfce would be the same. Other session information, like what files you have open, what web pages you have open (in case of a browser), and etc. (app dependant sorta stuff) is specific to kde, gnome, and possible xfce. I kinda doubt that XFCE will have more than window size position management, but I don't know. I hope somebody more knowledgable than me will correct me. I personally thought that the kde and gnome flags would be used to install desktop icons n' stuff. I assume gnome and kde flags install this kinda of stuff, as well as the session management. Probably menu placement as well. Is it truly pointless using the gnome and kde flags unless you are running either the gnome or kde desktops? I would assume so. But once again I hope someone more knowledgable than me will correct me. I would think that they were made into flags in the first place becuase several different window managers emulate both of them.. I'm still very fuzzy on all this... -Nathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation
-Original Message- From: Gerhard W.Gruber I did emerge ati-drivers to get 3D accelleration. Unfortunately this doesn't work for my card (Asus Radeon 9800XT) as soon as I switch OpenGL to use the ATI provided library. I did this with opengl-update ati as the installation told me to. since this doesn't work and KDE breaks on startup I wanted to switch back to Mesa but opengl-update xfree didn't help and it told me there is only xfree or nvidia as an option. So how can I switch back to mesa? opengl-update xfree does switch back to mesa (the one merged into xfree). I tried emerge unmerge ati-drivers wich succesfully removed the ATI drivers, but it didn't return my system to the previous state so that I couldn't run KDE either. When you unmerged the ati-drivers, did you switch the driver in XFree86 from fglrx to the ati (or radeon, i can never remember which) one? Actually I can use the ATI drviers currently I only may not use the OpenGL lib from ATI to run KDE. I hope they fix this soon. :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with -alsa?
-Original Message- From: Oliver Lange mathieu perrenoud wrote: I fully agree. But emerge -ep world | grep '-alsa' can hardly be called shell hacking. Instead of that cryptic shell stuff (i mean in general), I'd like to have the portage tree and all it's stuff put into a simple SQL database. Then you could talk to your computer in clear english, like this: select name from packages where USE = '-alsa' (something like that) Doesn't that look pretty easy to learn bear in mind ? This would also reduce the enourmous number of files dirs on the harddisk. I just wrote my own updatedb script which excludes /usr/portage and /var/cache/edb, else each locate command completely floods the shell line buffer(s) with hits from these two paths.. Not to mention the extreme high speed which an SQL database would provide, compared to qpkg searches thru' the filesys... Using a SQL DB would increase the data stored on the harddisk. It is also slower than raw file access. The deal breaker is that you don't want to depend on a SQL DB for minimal installs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Find all installed packages with -alsa?
Sure I've used a SQL DB. A file stored in a DB is slower to load than a file on disk. This doesn't speak to indexing and cacheing that a DB might have (not to mention that DBs are usually way better machines than your desktop). Of course, you can apply these techniques to files on disk as well. -Original Message- From: Oliver Lange Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: Using a SQL DB would increase the data stored on the harddisk. It is also slower than raw file access. The deal breaker is that you don't want to depend on a SQL DB for minimal installs. ?? Did you ever use a SQL db ? Responses for queries within such 'tiny' databases (only 70,000 entries) come within a finger snap. qpkg needs several seconds for a query on a 2 GHz machine. You're right about the problem of choosing the right SQL database to be installed. If i'd suggest to add MySQL or Postgres to gentoo-stage-2, i would no doubt get a million of answers from people who'd call me crazy. Of course it would have to be a *tiny* and *independent* instance of a database which shouldn't conflict with any other installation of the same (or other) database(s) for other purposes. I see that this is kinda problem, but the advantages were great, especially for beginners who could easily learn to handle things, and - as a side effect - learn SQL.. Well, just an idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support?
You should see the speed improvement only if your app uses POSIX threads. -Original Message- From: Redeeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:45 PM To: Gentoo Maillinglist Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support? On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 23:15, Tom Wesley wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 21:46, Tom Wesley wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 19:13, Thomas Achtemichuk wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:15, Chris Graves wrote: Is it possible to bootstrap with NPTL support? Is there a particular stage1 tarball I need? I believe you'll need to do the bootstrapping under a 2.6 kernel as glibc won't build with nptl without one. I had some difficulties using the experimental 2.6 LiveCD so I just used a regular LiveCD and rebuilt glibc and did an emerge -eD world after the install. Everything is working fine. As a curiosity, what are the advantages of NPTL? OK, to reply to myself, I have Googled a little. It's seems that NPTL is a more efficient form a thread management. Using a dual processor machine (Athlon MP 2400) would I be likely to see a noticeable speed increase if I enabled the nptl use flag and recompiled everything? yes thats what i understood too, it should have some more stuff too, and it only works on 2.6 (redhat ported to 2.4?) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] HiZ PpL
Just to confirm the bug, I have that same problem as well. I haven't looked into it yet. -Original Message- From: Jason Stubbs On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:14, Black Hand wrote: - i have a strange problem with gxine in debian. some times fail (segment fault) when i try to put gxine in full screen mode. i reinstall gxine in debian with apt-build (from sources, optimized) and the problem remains. someone have the same problem with gentoo? I haven't used gxine and so haven't had that problem. You will probably find that you get pretty good support here for tracking the problem down, though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Low memory build
TWM and FVWM are a simple low-resource window managers. Don't install gnome or kde! -Original Message- From: MARTINSON, GREGORY I am going to be bullheaded and take an old machine Pentium 166 with 48 Megs of memory and make it work as a home server (samba, cups and ftp as well as maybe a music player). I won't be installing tons of software on it, but I do want to eek our every last ounce of performance from an old beast. Do any of you have general tips, hints or things to avoid in developing such a system? For example, if I want every last ounce of performance should I start with bootstrapping or is that not necessary? Anyone know of a simple low-resource window manager? What media players work well with low resources? What compilation make.conf settings should I try? Thanks to any and all responses! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] XFree86 Problem
Does it work with the VGA device? -Original Message- From: Al Smith Hello All - I am trying to configure my X11 on my laptop and I keep failing with a no-screens error. I am running a toshiba laptop with a Trident CyberAladdin-P4 video card. Any assistance would be appreciated... Attrached is the XF86Config file -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] XFree86 Problem
Just curious; What changed in your config file? -Nathan -Original Message- From: Al Smith My X Problem is fixed. I ran xf86cfg to have it autodetect my settings... Seems to work... -Original Message- From: Al Smith I am trying to configure my X11 on my laptop and I keep failing with a no-screens error. I am running a toshiba laptop with a Trident CyberAladdin-P4 video card. Any assistance would be appreciated... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Back OT: Prince of Persia commercial
There is a DOS version of Prince of Persia you can download! -Original Message- From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] begin quote On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:40:24 -0600 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure that most of you who own a TV in the US have seen one of the many commercials for the new game 'Prince of Persia: Sands of Time'. SNIP Okay, bringing this back On Topic, i'm not sure how many of you played the original, but I know it made a nice impression on me when I was in the age of such games. (that and the much later RayMan ;) And now I'm rummaging around for some quality-braindeath (No, end user support doesn't cut it.) and wonder: Can anyone mention a clone, or an emulator/VM setup that can play said old game? ( nope, the ps/2 that I ran it on originally is dead ) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] volume control with XMMS and Alsa
This was happening to me, but you can restore the defaults at boot time by doing the following. 1) adjust the mixer to the desired levels 2) /etc/init.d/alsacontrol start 3) rc-update -a alsacontrol default -Nathan -Original Message- From: Tony Scharf Ok, Ive got XMMS running through ALSA, however every time the system boots, the volume is shut off AND the volume control only turns the sound on or off - i have to control level at the speakers. I am very new to Gentoo, though I have been using linux for a while. What do I need to check? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS
A lot of people seem to not use -O3, because it can cause worse performance in some situations. I'm gonna leave it in my make.conf till someone (maybe me, if I get some free time) shows that it causes worse performance on average. Because that is really what the flags in make.conf should be geared toward. They should be geared toward what gives you the best performance on average (without breaking things). -Nathan -Original Message- From: Jason Stubbs On Saturday 29 November 2003 05:57, Vano Beridze wrote: I installed gentoo from stage 1 (took 1 day) with the following settings CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 On the same machine with RedHat 9 (i386 packages) NetBeans 3.5.1(sun jdk 1.4.2_02) runs faster. What is the problem? Are my flags set incorrectly? The biggest improvement in performance will come by adding -fomit-frame-pointer to your flags. I would also suggest -O2. -O3 only brings performance improvements in a few situations and can cause worse performance in others. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NPTL documentation
conjectureI'd imagine the interface for POSIX threads hasn't changed. The NPTL just improved the 'backend'./conjecture I've a pdf file describing NPTL if you want me to mail that to you. There is a place online you can download it, but I forgot where that was. I haven't had time to read through it yet. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Scharf Yuval [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] NPTL documentation Hello, After installing NPTL, i.e. emerging glibc with USE=nptl I don't have the man pages of the pthread_* calls. So I'm looking for documentation of NPTL. I've searched the Internet but didn't find. Can some one tell me where I'll find the data I'm looking for? Thanks, Yuval Scharf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] XFS server eating too much CPU
kill -9: nothing can defeat the power of kill -9 -Original Message- From: Martin Hudec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] XFS server eating too much CPU Hi there, I've installed X Font server (4.3.0r3) on newly compiled Gentoo, and I've added it to default runlevel by rc-update add xfs default. Now it is eating minimum 40%CPU. It is not responding to kill command or /etc/init.d/xfs stop. I have 1.3 GHz Celeron computer. -- : :. kind regards :.. Martin Hudec :.: :.: =w= http://www.aeternal.net :.: =m= +421.907.303393 :.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] :.: :.: When you want something, all the universe :.: conspires in helping you to achieve it. :.: - The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] reiserfs undelete ?
Unix is a what you say is what you get sort of operating system. It is not very forgiving, but I like it that way. It sucks when you type rm -r * in the root directory by accident. I did type it once and learned a very valuable lesson (don't do that). If you are often deleting files by accident, you should look into a solution that moves the files to a temporary folder to be deleted later. I can see this happening if your used to windows or macos, because you can always restore. I think gnome does this on the desktop by default. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Oliver Lange Redeeman wrote: its not a minus, its also a feature, sometimes if i delete data i really want it to disappear! Well if i want to delete a file forever, there are many tools out there which do the job. For example, Krusader offers a shred command, other tools work from the console. These tools overwrite the whole file with Null-Bytes before deleting them. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] irc client
xchat. Though I don't know how feature rich it is, since the mozilla client is good enough for me. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Andrew Gaffney I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is great, and Mozilla's IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can anyone recommend anything? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied
As someone pointed out to me earlier, you have to be part of the wheel group to su. You might want to check that, although I don't see how the command below removed you from the wheel group. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Joel Konkle-Parker Ok, I have no idea what happened here, but all of a sudden I lost the ability to 'su' into root. I did an `su` and logged in as root, emerged some stuff, and did a `usermod -G games joeljkp` to add myself to the 'games' group. I then did `exit` to get back to my account. Now when I type `su`, I get an error that says `su: permission denied`. I've tried over and over again, with the correct password, and nothing. I can switch to tty1 and login as root to begin with, with the exact same password, and it lets me in. Log in as myself, `su`, same password, and 'permission denied'. What's going on here? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, window s
That is weird. A compiler should generate the same code whether it is optimized or unoptimized. It would be interesting to hear an explanation from the gcc folk as to what causes this. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Matt Garman A while back I posted a message talking about the performance differences of a c++ program I wrote on gentoo and debian. In the end, I chalked up the performance degrade on gentoo to my having built gcc with too many optimizations. When I recompiled gcc with more conservative settings, my program ran as fast or faster on gentoo. If you recall, the processor/memory intensive part of my program is reading a 50,000+ line CSV file into memory. On my gentoo box, it takes about 1.6 seconds to load this into memory. On Windows, using MS Visual Studio 6.0, it takes five or six seconds to load into memory! I don't know how big a role computer speed plays, though. My home computer (gentoo) is an Athlon XP 2500 with 1 GB of ram. My work computer (windows) is a dual Xeon 1.5 GHz with 2 GB of ram. Judging by Windows Task Manager, only one CPU is used to load the data. So, loosely speaking, my home PC is 1.6 times faster, but the same process is 3.1 times slower (on my work PC). Again, this testing isn't scientific by any means, but I thought some folks might be interested. Looks good for gcc or AMD, in my opinion :) Matt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied
Thanks. I should have worded my reply I don't know if rather than I don't see how. Plus I should check replies before I bother. :) Sorry all. -Nathan -Original Message- From: brett holcomb Man group points out that the -G option will add you to that group but remove you from all others you might be a member of. On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:51:39 -0600 Van Eps, Nathan D. wrote: As someone pointed out to me earlier, you have to be part of the wheel group to su. You might want to check that, although I don't see how the command below removed you from the wheel group. -Original Message- From: Joel Konkle-Parker Ok, I have no idea what happened here, but all of a sudden I lost the ability to 'su' into root. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] DOOM ports?
All the graphics and sound are going to be the same regardless of the option you choose. Since they all are going to use the original CD. I would check the various websites to see what they have done to the original code. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Joel Konkle-Parker I have a copy of DOOM for DOS here, and I'd like to be able to play it on Linux. From what I can tell, there's several options (prboom, lxdoom, lsdldoom, doom-legacy, etc.) I want as close as I can get to the original, official game, though. No 'added features', 'patches', or 'enhancements'. I've tried the official Linux DOOM from ftp.idsoftware.com, but it's compiled with a.out binaries, and so won't work for me. The source code doesn't compile cleanly either. What are my options for an original DOOM experience? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ut2003
Hello, I can't get any sound from my ut2003 install. The weird thing is I also have the ut2003-demo installed and the sound works for it. I had to install ut2003 semi-manually, because the emerge didn't work. Anybody else have this problem? Thanks, Nathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, wi ndow s
Perhaps. But I think it unlikely that the only effect of a broken compiler would be too slow down all the programs you compile with it. I would think it would compile some programs, fail on some, and/or produce programs that don't work. I guess want I'm trying to say is that if rearrange instructions in an unexpected way, chances are that the program will simply fail, rather than being slower. Of course this is all conjecture on my part. I guess I would expect the aforementioned results if there were an optimizing stage that broken compiler failed on (but the compile succeeded). But as a compiler writer, I would at least output that the optimizing stage failed. Sorry if I am rambling on, but I find the topic interesting. I don't have professional experience writing compilers, but I took a course in college. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Eamon Caddigan Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eamon Caddigan Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is weird. A compiler should generate the same code whether it is optimized or unoptimized. It would be interesting to hear an explanation from the gcc folk as to what causes this. Plenty of programs break when compiled with aggressive optimizations -- why should a compiler be any different? If the compiler broke (because of aggressive optimizations), the compiler wouldn't make an executable. And if you compiled the compiler with good optimizations, the compiler would simply run faster (not the executable it generates). Its like deterministic. You expect your programs to run the same regardless of compiler optimization. You just want them to run faster... That's a fair expectation, but not quite how it works. When optimizing code, compilers rearrange instructions (among other things) to achieve faster (or smaller, etc.) code. It's not too difficult to imagine an incorrectly-optimized compiler creating executables that themselves fail, rather then simply refusing to compile any code. Especially when you consider how subtle the problems introduced by incorrect optimizations can be. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] KT400 AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)
The ati-drivers don't need agpgart. The fglrx kernel module has that functionality built in. I have 9500pro and everything is working. If you can't get the ati-drivers to work, the radeon driver under X should get you a good resolution and refresh. My mainboard is a dual Tyan athlon mb, so I guess our hardware configuration is quite different. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Dennis Freise I posted this a while ago, but didn't get any helpful answer there... I've got an ASUS A7V8X mainboard, which has a KT400 chipset, and I've got a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card. I can't get this working with X and any other driver than the vesa-vga driver :( The problem is, that the agpgart-driver, which is needed for the ati-drivers, does not support agp3 (agp-4x) which is by default enabled in the Radeon-card. I googled _a lot_ to find any suggestions, and I found many ways to disable agp3 in the mainboards bios, but that's not what I want. I've got winxp on another partition, and that benifits from that mode, so I want to leave it enabled at least for that OS. I do not need 3d-acceleration under linux, but something more than 60 Hz on the x-desktop would be _really_ nice :) Now my question: Has anybody got this kind of hardware-combination running with any other (better) X-mode ? Which kernel do you use ? Which drivers do you use ? Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] wget Address family not supported
Lots a people i guess. I did this: USE=-ipv6 emerge wget and then it worked. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] wget Address family not supported I did a recent sync and wget was updated to version 1.9. Now, when it tries to pull any source down from any location, I get the message Address family not supported and it fails. Anybody else seing this? Calculating world dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/man-pages-1.61 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/man-pages-1.61.tar.bz2 --14:58:58-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/man-pages-1.61.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/man-pages-1.61.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... 128.193.0.3 Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... failed: Address family not supported by protocol. Retrying. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Yahoo videos
Well that sounds like a challenge...:) -Original Message- From: SN I don't have to try it :-) I was sitting next to the guy who implemented Yahoo launch, if you know what I mean :-) So I just know it ain't possible can't tell you more. - Original Message - From: Michele Di Trani They like to watch the videos that on Yahoo. I have not been able to Wich kind of codec is used for these Yahoo Videos? In Linux you can easily watch divx, xvid, mpg, wmv, asf, realmedia, avi, mov.. (have you tried emerging Xine or Mplayer?) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] svg viewer
I ran across this page, so I thought I'd post it for the person who wanted a svg viewer. http://xsvg.org/ It isn't completed, but the status page lists what works. -Nathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] X server - no screens found
Hall was assuming the Kamil hadn't run xf86config at all. Which is what I thought from Kamil's email as well. -Nathan -Original Message- From: downtime null first of all, please use text only. many of us use MUAs that don't support HTML formatted emails. i've been having the same problem. i don't remember when exactly it started happening tho. i just remember rebooting one time and not being able to get back into X. my temporary fix was to add a stanza to my XF86Config for the default 'nv' driver and setting that as the default. i haven't had any luck in figuring out the actual problem tho. Hall, is this how you solved this problem? simply running the config again? i don't understand how this would fix the problem since you'd want to change to the 'nvidia' driver after running it. On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:06:25AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: At 09:57 AM 11/11/2003, you wrote:br blockquote type=cite class=cite citefont face=arial size=2Hallo,nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; br I've got problem with starting X server, i am getting this errorbr /fontnbsp;br font face=arial size=2Fatal server errorbr no screens foundbr /fontnbsp;br font face=arial size=2Using vt7br (EE) No devices detected/font/blockquotebr You need to configure XFree. Try running 'xf86config' as root or look in /etc/X11 for a file called XF86Config.example. Rename it to XF86Config and edit it to match your system. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Adobe SVG
Adobe SVG! SVG is a W3C standard. Anyway, I believe mozilla will view SVG. I'm not sure which version supports or if you will need a plugin. You will have to check out mozilla.org. Or await a more knowledgable person to reply. -Original Message- From: dave willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:36 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Adobe SVG anyone know if there is an Adobe SVG viewer for linux? -dave (I*NT*p) Brevity is the soul of wit. - Shakespeare -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge time problem
You are started with good CFLAGS, so that isn't the problem. I lack a workstation to check, but I don't think 'tar' will set dates properly. So I'm not so sure that is the problem. I'd try to post the error verbatim if you can. I'm sure someone else has a better idea about this than me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] emerge time problem I didn't set any CFLAGS on purpose. If some are set by default in make.conf or added as a result of the install instructions, that is what I would have picked up, of course I will double check that though. -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:30 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] emerge time problem Did you have any dangerous CFLAGS in make.conf, like -malign-double and -ffast-math? Have you tried to emerge emerge? Stick in there, someone on this list will be able to help ya! It took me a couple of weeks to get everything to work for me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge time problem I am trying to get through my first install of Gentoo. It has gone very roughly. I still do not have email from that computer and hence, cannot cut-and-paste the exact error I am having, but, here goes... History--- I downloaded and followed the instructions for a Gentoo install from the gentoo website a few weeks ago. I made it through the first part where it says I have a full system. Now I am trying to get a desktop manager to work. I have finally been able to get twm to work, but, like the person who wrote the document, I would rather have nearly anything than twm. In the process somewhere between having a working system and getting graphics, emerge stopped working. Problem-- In brief, the error is that my system is not sane. The specific error can be seen by editing nearly any configure script in any of the builds and finding where the script uses ls to check against the system time and see if your system is sane. After closer inspection, I see when the tar -xvf step is run that every file is from the future. A long ways in the future. I didn't do the math, but I would bet the executing process is believing it is time 0 when it is running. What I have already tried-- If I go into the build directory and touch the configure script, then run it again, I can manually run the install process, e.g. configure;gmake;gmake install When I type date, it looks right to me. When I create files they have the current time on them. I don't know what the problem is, but I am guessing it is related to installing the desktop since that is all I have done to change anything since the last time I saw emerge work. I have tried emerge rsync which did not help. I have tried emerging other things, all builds fail for the same reason. The build stops and tells me to check to make sure my clock works. Frustrated venting-- I am at a loss here because I don't know python, so I am shooting blind in the emerge code, and sh is not my language of choice either, so the error, which occurs at the ./configure step of emerge, is beyond me. I like gentoo so far EXCEPT the NASTY install. I have been at it for over two weeks now. I am not a raw beginner at building source, debugging software and or hardware, UNIX, or PCs. I went with Gentoo after my 8'th re-install of Mandrake in 4 weeks. I could only keep the system alive for that long. I found that Mandrake would lose its brains and become very unstable. I have not had any instability, but I can't say I have a functional computer yet either. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] wine warcraft 3 (OT)
Sorry I forgot to mark this thread as off-topic. So I guess you haven't got it to run...:) I checked the instructions on transgaming and on winehq. From what I gather, you don't need winex since war3 has an opengl mode and the only enhancement winex adds is directx stuff. And I tried following the directions on winehq and it didn't work. X freezes when I try to patch the game to the newest version. I guess I will keep fiddling with it. I know there were some settings in XF86Config to make X more stable for wine when using the ati-drivers. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Steve Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:13 PM To: Gentoo User Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] wine warcraft 3 On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 12:08, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: Has anyone gotten warcraft 3 to run under wine? From www.transgaming.com: Searching games database Search Results: WarCraft II Working Rating: 4 Popularity: 335 Forum Posts: 55 Warcraft III Working Rating: 4 Popularity: 1988 Forum Posts: 2014 Warcraft III: Frozen Throne Working Rating: 3 Popularity: 174 Forum Posts: 30 Warcraft: Orcs Humans Working Rating: 0 Popularity: 0 Forum Posts: 1 -- Steve Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] (OT) Doom
I thought doom, doom2, and quake were released as freeware. In which case it would be ok just to offer the cds for free download... -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Doom On Nov 6, 2003, at 3:29 am, Chris wrote: Would anyone know how I can get my hands on the full version of Doom. Not Doom 2 or 3 just the first one. I have been looking for it for the last two years since my kids destoyed the cd and have had no luck. http://tinyurl.com/tvaj HTH, HAND, c, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] wine warcraft 3
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[gentoo-user] su question
Somebody will probably tell me to RTFM, but I did read the man page (not the manual). I can't su to root under a user. Is this disabled? It says username/password incorrect, but that ain't true. Always used to work with Debian. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text. So I have to use the menu every time. -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson I am only sending text mails to this list. But if someone else sends a NON text email to this list and I reply to it I am FORCED to send it in non-text format. As far as I know there's no way around that in Outlook. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
Small correction: Another list member pointed out to me that fomit-frame-pointer isn't enable for any of the O settings for x86 (according to the documentation). I wanted to make sure, so I emailed gcc-help email address. Someone emailed me the following procedure to determine exactly what flags are getting set for the different O settings. To figure out what the differences are between the various optimization settings, do this: touch foo.cpp g++ -O2 -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp cat foo.s Replace -O2 with the one(s) that you are interested in. Compare the differences in the .s files. Make sure you save the foo.s that you are interested to compare against... :-) -Original Message- From: SN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance Well since I had a crash 3 days ago I can tell you what my exerience with CFLAGS: First install: Filesystem: ext3 -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -funroll-loops Note: according to gcc manuall, fomit-frame-pointer finline-functions and all the cra is already turned on by O3 Second install: Filesystem: reiserfs -march=athlon-xp -02 -pipe By accident I was already doing a little test of my own, on the first install, startup time of konqueror, prelinked: 0,7s second install had only 0,6s Also the files, compiled binaries, libs were almost10% smaller. I guess that's one part of the faster startup. After studying the gcc manuall up and down I don't believe, that the gentoo suggested O3 is not the best flag for compiling the whole distro, I think it makes things much worse, only people should use that flag, who already know, that they have certain functions in their programms that will benefit from O3, which in most cases doesn't happen. Also some poeple still believe, that they have to add 50 other flags to their make.conf, cause gcc man shows them. Here is what gcc manual on their HP says: O3 contains: -fforce-mem -foptimize-sibling-calls -fstrength-reduce -fcse-follow-jumps-fcse-skip-blocks -frerun-cse-after-loop-frerun-loop-opt -fgcse -fgcse-lm -fgcse-sm -fdelete-null-pointer-checks -fexpensive-optimizations -fregmove -fschedule-insns -fschedule-insns2 -fsched-interblock -fsched-spec -fcaller-saves -fpeephole2 -freorder-blocks -freorder-functions -fstrict-aliasing -falign-functions -falign-jumps -falign-loops -falign-labels -fdefer-pop -fmerge-constants -fthread-jumps -floop-optimize -fcrossjumping -fif-conversion -fif-conversion2 -fdelayed-branch -fguess-branch-probability -fcprop-registers -fforce-mem Force memory operands to be copied into registers before doing arithmetic on them. This produces better code by making all memory references potential common subexpressions. When they are not common subexpressions, instruction combination should eliminate the separate register-load. Enabled at levels -O2, -O3, -Os. -fomit-frame-pointer Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't need one. This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many functions. It also makes debugging impossible on some machines. On some machines, such as the VAX, this flag has no effect, because the standard calling sequence automatically handles the frame pointer and nothing is saved by pretending it doesn't exist. The machine-description macro FRAME_POINTER_REQUIRED controls whether a target machine supports this flag. See Register Usage. Enabled at levels -O, -O2, -O3, -Os. -foptimize-sibling-calls Optimize sibling and tail recursive calls. Enabled at levels -O2, -O3, -Os. -finline-functions Integrate all simple functions into their callers. The compiler heuristically decides which functions are simple enough to be worth integrating in this way. If all calls to a given function are integrated, and the function is declared static, then the function is normally not output as assembler code in its own right. Enabled at level -O3 So guys please, don't fall for that CFLAG hype, most of these optimization tales are just plain mystery and I'd say 99% of the people, that set CFLAGS don't even know what they are doing, they read posts in threads then they post them themselves and so on. It's just plain crap. Set the right march and O2 and you won't loose over any other distro, if you want fast startup times, prelink will do its job. Also you have to note, that some distros use kernel patches that enhance speed, the kernel from kernel.org ususally is very stable and works for most, but isn't very much tuned to run for best performance. - Original
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Yes, but if you are replying to an email with HTML in it, it won't use plain text. -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Who do you call????
Ghostbusters! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] env-update
Check that the (non-comment) line before CHOST has a ending double quote
on it.
-Original Message-
From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:10 AM
To: gentoouser
Subject: [gentoo-user] env-update
howdie all
i am busy doing a stage 1 install i have just chrooted and
edited my make.conf file but now when i type env-update
i get this error
!!! Invalid token (not =) CHOST
!!! Parse error in /etc/make.conf.
!!! Incorrect multiline literals can cause this. Do not use them.
my /etc/make.conf
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon-xp -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
when i hash CHOST out then i moans about CFLAGS
any ideas thanks
ryan
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RE: [gentoo-user] Another 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 and Adaptec 2940 quest ion
Pretty sure it is aic78xx. I have a 2940 and use it. There is a aic7900, but I would think that is for way newer stuff. -Original Message- From: Patrick Marquetecken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:32 PM To: Gentoo-user Subject: [gentoo-user] Another 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 and Adaptec 2940 question I have a adaptec 2940 U2 what SCSI option must i choose in the kerel ? It went terrible wrong with genkernel. Patrick -- Please, Spock, do me a favor ... 'n' don't say it's `fascinating'... No... but it is... interesting... -- Spock PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gcc optimizations
Just as a FYI, -fomit-frame-pointer is included in -O -O2 -O3 -Os according to: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html;. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Peter Ruskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc optimizations On Tuesday 28 Oct 2003 20:47, Javier Villavicencio wrote: -O2 -frename-regs = FASTER than -O2 I'll post my complete benchmarked results ASAP. It includes many more CFLAGS (but for my architecture only, an AMD Athlon-XP). Hmmm, I tried: CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -frename-regs -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe ...and emerging clanlib-0.6.5-r1 failed with something like 'gcc cannot make executables'. Removing -frename-regs from the CFLAGS solved that problem. Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre8-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] scrollkeeper_problems?
I had this exact same problem. Check out this forum thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=610577sid=2b54c915d50425f86566ae09 4bf4fc85#610577 I unmerged all the docbook stuff and libxml2, deleted /etc/xml/catalog and /etc/xml/docbook, turned down some of my CFLAGS, and remerged those files. Everything worked then. -Original Message- From: Karshi F.Hasanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] scrollkeeper_problems? I got the following errors when try to install the scrollkeeper: -- checking for intltool-extract... /usr/bin/intltool-extract checking intltool version... 0.27.2 checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for xml2-config... /usr/bin/xml2-config checking libxml2 version... 2.5.11 checking for xslt-config... /usr/bin/xslt-config checking for docbook-dtd412-xml... * ERROR * Couldn't find the DocBook XML V4.1.2 DTD. Please make sure that you have the docbook-dtd412-xml package installed. If it is installed, the package probably did not register the DTD in the catalog properly. Consult http://scrollkeeper.sourceforge.net/docbook.shtml for more information. configure: error: DocBook XML V4.1.2 DTD not present in /etc/xml/catalog. Make sure docbook-dtd412-xml is installed and registers DTD in catalog. !!! ERROR: app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.12 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 338, Exitcode 1 !!! econf failed -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gcc optimizations
I don't see where that is mentioned in the online documentation. Is this an undocument feature or am I just missing it in the docs? Thanks, Nathan -Original Message- From: Sami Näätänen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc optimizations On Wednesday 29 October 2003 16:54, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: Just as a FYI, -fomit-frame-pointer is included in -O -O2 -O3 -Os according to: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html;. Only if it does not affect debugging. In x86 it does so it is NOT included. So one must set it separately. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 and Adaptec 2940
Hello,
I think mine used to do that when I used genkernel. I know something SCSI
was in a loop, but I couldn't read the screen because something was wrong
with the console. I ended up compiling by hand and I just included aic78xxx
in the kernel. Then things were fine.
-Nathan
-Original Message-
From: Stewart C. Russell
Are there any known problems with Athlon XP kernels and a plain old
Adaptec 2940? I have one driving a slide scanner and a CD-ROM, and it
fails to initialise.
After successful POST, and the Adaptec screen identifies the devices
hanging off the chain, the init procedure gets knocked for a loop. It
gets stuck producing messages like:
host 1 abort timed out - bus is being reset
(scsi:0:-1:-1) Disconnected list inconsistency ...
Yikes! There is a loop in the free list ...
and this goes on and on, bumping the pid up by one as it goes.
It worked fine under Redhat 7.3 (kernel 2.4.20-20.7). I'm a little
suspicious that the card might be borked, as Knoppix 3.2
didn't pick up
any devices on the chain.
I tried setting acpi=no in the kernel parms, but that didn't help. I
haven't yet tried to restart under RH7.3; that would involve a bit of
hard-drive shuffling.
Ideas, suggestions, replacement cards welcomed.
thanks,
Stewart
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RE: [gentoo-user] gnome and openbox
I don't know fer sure, but gnome2 could be using gconf to store its config. You maybe want to try the gconf-editor... -Original Message- From: eric heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 3:32 PM To: Doug Weimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and openbox Thanks for the suggestion, but no, Gnome's not loading metacity from there. I greped the whole ~/.gnome2 directory for metacity and didn't find anything. Either loading metacity is somehow hard-coded into the gnome-session, or there's some session config file I don't know about. Any other ideas? Thanks eric heller. On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 13:20, Doug Weimer wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 03:16, eric heller wrote: cat ~/.xinitrc: bbkeys -t openbox gnome-session Is there something I can do to tell Gnome not to bother loading it's own window manager? Have you checked the session file? If your using gnome2, take a look at .gnome2/session and see if it is trying to load metacity there. If it is, try deleting the metacity entry. Doug -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] an idea
That isn't what I read. gs stands for gentoo stable and this kernel is more suitable for a production environment than the rest. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml -Nathan -Original Message- From: Hall Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] an idea On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:30, blade- wrote: i use the gs sources, had an update today and a few days ago The gs-sources track a pre kernel. It's similar to the 2.6 kernel in that it gets frequent updates. It's also a patched/custom kernel and any change to the patches would require a kernel package update. If you want stable, i.e. not changing weekly or so, do NOT use that kernel package. Use the stock vanilla kernel, for example. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] stability libxml2/docbook/scrollkeeper proble ms FIXED
My optimization flags were too aggressive. I recompiled libxml2 with the default optimizations and it worked. This happened to me with the findutils too. And 2.6 is still working great for me. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. I decided the instability was a good excuse to try 2.6.0-test8 and it works great (so far). I still haven't resolved the /etc/xml/catalog and /etc/xml/docbook problem. If someone would be willing to mail me a copy of their files, that would be great. -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. Has anybody had stability problems with dual athlon mp systems with the 2.4.20-r6 kernel? I'm getting freezes after a few minutes of starting the kernel. It works fine without an SMP kernel (I used the one from the 1.4 boot disk). Does anybody have a stable dual athlon mp system running? Which kernel do you use? When I try to emerge gnome it stops while trying to emerge scrollkeeper. Scrollkeeper stops because of a missing docbook 4.1.2 xml dtd in /etc/xml/catalog. This file is populated when you emerge docbook-xml-dtd. The emerge fails (but doesn't stop) when the command xmlcatalog is used to update /etc/xml/catalog. The binary xmlcatalog is installed when installing the package libxml2. Has anybody had any problems with this and know a fix? Sorry if I missed comments in earlier threads. Due to the high volume of the list, I usually only pay attention to a small number of emails. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] stability libxml2/docbook/scrollkeeper proble ms
Hello, I decided the instability was a good excuse to try 2.6.0-test8 and it works great (so far). I still haven't resolved the /etc/xml/catalog and /etc/xml/docbook problem. If someone would be willing to mail me a copy of their files, that would be great. Thanks, Nathan -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. Has anybody had stability problems with dual athlon mp systems with the 2.4.20-r6 kernel? I'm getting freezes after a few minutes of starting the kernel. It works fine without an SMP kernel (I used the one from the 1.4 boot disk). Does anybody have a stable dual athlon mp system running? Which kernel do you use? When I try to emerge gnome it stops while trying to emerge scrollkeeper. Scrollkeeper stops because of a missing docbook 4.1.2 xml dtd in /etc/xml/catalog. This file is populated when you emerge docbook-xml-dtd. The emerge fails (but doesn't stop) when the command xmlcatalog is used to update /etc/xml/catalog. The binary xmlcatalog is installed when installing the package libxml2. Has anybody had any problems with this and know a fix? Sorry if I missed comments in earlier threads. Due to the high volume of the list, I usually only pay attention to a small number of emails. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] stability libxml2/docbook/scrollkeeper problems
Hello, Has anybody had stability problems with dual athlon mp systems with the 2.4.20-r6 kernel? I'm getting freezes after a few minutes of starting the kernel. It works fine without an SMP kernel (I used the one from the 1.4 boot disk). Does anybody have a stable dual athlon mp system running? Which kernel do you use? When I try to emerge gnome it stops while trying to emerge scrollkeeper. Scrollkeeper stops because of a missing docbook 4.1.2 xml dtd in /etc/xml/catalog. This file is populated when you emerge docbook-xml-dtd. The emerge fails (but doesn't stop) when the command xmlcatalog is used to update /etc/xml/catalog. The binary xmlcatalog is installed when installing the package libxml2. Has anybody had any problems with this and know a fix? Sorry if I missed comments in earlier threads. Due to the high volume of the list, I usually only pay attention to a small number of emails. Thanks, Nathan Van Eps -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
I was 100% slackware, then 100% debian, and now 100% gentoo. I have to use NT at work though...blech. -Nathan -Original Message- From: Patrick Marquetecken Op di 21-10-2003, om 13:47 schreef Eric Livingston: I'm curious regarding the penetration of linux as a comprehensive solution for all computing tasks in a normal day. i.e. what percentage of Linux users are 100% linux, or even 100% Gentoo for that matter. /snip One year ago i did the switch to 100% Linux (it was hard), as a Sun Solaris sysadmin with a few Windows servers and Macintosh I can work with Linux all the time. At work I can use samba an rdesktop, nfs and if al my Mac's are switch to Mac X , Linux will rule them all. :-) At home it feels that I can do more then when I was using Windows, the only program I'm missing is Adobe Photoshop. Patrick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] x86 installation problem
Hello, You were right. My CD was bad. I burned a new one. Unfortunately it doesn't have the nice picture like the old one. :( The weird thing is I got the error again with the new CD once. And I've froze twice during the install. I think something might be flaky with my dvd drive. Despite the flakiness, I've almost got gentoo installed. I just gotta get grub to work and I'm set. Thanks for the help, Nathan Van Eps -Original Message- From: Roger Miliker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] x86 installation problem On Saturday 18 October 2003 19:36, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: Hello, I can't get my LiveCD to boot. I always get the error: isolinux: Disk error 44, AX=4280, drive 9F. Has anyone got that error before? Does anyone know what it means? I've tried the gentoo and the smp kernel and a bunch of different permutations of the installation options. I have the 1.4 AthlonXP live CD and my system is a dual Athlon MP workstation. Thanks, Nathan Van Eps not sure, but sounds like a scratched or otherwise broken cd. md5sum it and check cheers Roger -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] x86 installation problem
Hello, I can't get my LiveCD to boot. I always get the error: isolinux: Disk error 44, AX=4280, drive 9F. Has anyone got that error before? Does anyone know what it means? I've tried the gentoo and the smp kernel and a bunch of different permutations of the installation options. I have the 1.4 AthlonXP live CD and my system is a dual Athlon MP workstation. Thanks, Nathan Van Eps -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
