Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6 going back on topic, maybe....
Chris wrote: It depends on which one you want. There is gentoo-dev-sources, and mm sources and maybe one or two others. Is there any chance that someday one will be able to get 2.6.x by upgrading 2.4.x vanilla-sources, or will they remain separated forever (meaning one has to explicitly ask to emerge gentoo-dev-sources)? Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6 going back on topic, maybe....
As a new user of Gentoo, may I ask a dumb question... How would one go about trying this new kernel? I imagine I need to emege something, then run menuconfig and compile, but are there instructions someplace on just what to do? And will I be able to save all my 2.4 related files in case something goes wrong? Thanks Adrian On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 03:47:45 +0100 Jakub Krajcovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html -- GPG public keys available at pgp.mit.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6 going back on topic, maybe....
On Friday 13 February 2004 09:55 pm, Linux Gentoo wrote: As a new user of Gentoo, may I ask a dumb question... How would one go about trying this new kernel? I imagine I need to emege something, then run menuconfig and compile, but are there instructions someplace on just what to do? And will I be able to save all my 2.4 related files in case something goes wrong? Thanks Adrian It depends on which one you want. There is gentoo-dev-sources, and mm sources and maybe one or two others. On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 03:47:45 +0100 Jakub Krajcovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html -- GPG public keys available at pgp.mit.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Chris P. Carter --- The smallest and even the dumbest of questions can lead to enlightenment. True wisdom is knowing when to listen, when to speak, when act and when to but out. --- Gentoo Linux - KDE 3.2 (and proud of it) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6 going back on topic, maybe....
emerge sources -s will list all available sources. It should live alongside 2.4 fine (did in the past), but on complex kitchen sink machines like mine, I will have to see. I am about to try 2.6 mm and see how it goes. I did try an earlier 2.6 vanilla some months back and as others have found, it benchmarked slower (on things I do every day), wasnt too good on the desktop and had many incompatibilities but as a fair bit of time has passed I am compiling it again and will try it soon. BillK On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 11:55, Linux Gentoo wrote: As a new user of Gentoo, may I ask a dumb question... How would one go about trying this new kernel? I imagine I need to emege something, then run menuconfig and compile, but are there instructions someplace on just what to do? And will I be able to save all my 2.4 related files in case something goes wrong? Thanks Adrian On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 03:47:45 +0100 Jakub Krajcovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html -- GPG public keys available at pgp.mit.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6 going back on topic, maybe....
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, William Kenworthy uttered the following immortal words, (on things I do every day), wasnt too good on the desktop and had many incompatibilities but as a fair bit of time has passed I am compiling it again and will try it soon. As far as the 2.4 releases were concerned ck's patches improved things a lot, http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ Grendel -- Would you like a smoke and a pancake? A cigar and a waffle? Pipe and a crepe?Bong and a blintz? I have a Dutch accent, isn't that weird??? --Johann Van Der Smut -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
I was just reading an article in LInux Journal today about the 2.6 Kernel.. the new I/O scheduler looks like it rocked. The tests they ran on 2.4 took 30 minutes.. same tests took 30 seconds on 2.6.. thats like a HUGE differene. On 2004 February 1 Sunday am 11:47, Jakub Krajcovic wrote: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Karl Huysmans wrote: How well does XFS perform in this kernel? I have a server with dual 3ware cards (8 250 GB Maxtor P-ATA disks/RAID5 on the boards) striped with 2 partitions of 1.7 TB each. XFS is having some problems, as are some of the other FS's. Somthing todo with the vfs layer. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0402.0/0449.html With 2.4.20-xfs got 135 MB/s write, over 190 MB/s read. Tried one of the 2.5 series just once, and only got about half of these speeds on the same hardware. On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote: /Jakub Krajcovic wrote: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: //_http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html_ This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've already been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems./ -- Karl Huysmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
How well does XFS perform in this kernel? I have a server with dual 3ware cards (8 250 GB Maxtor P-ATA disks/RAID5 on the boards) striped with 2 partitions of 1.7 TB each. With 2.4.20-xfs got 135 MB/s write, over 190 MB/s read. Tried one of the 2.5 series just once, and only got about half of these speeds on the same hardware. On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jakub Krajcovic wrote: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've already been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems. -- Karl Huysmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Ok I want to switch for sure! Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 NIC? Any problems at all? On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jakub Krajcovic wrote: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've already been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On 10:07 Sun 01 Feb , LJN wrote: Ok I want to switch for sure! Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 NIC? Any problems at all? The 3c905c works fine here. -- Bill Roberts -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 NIC? Any problems at all? FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450 and 3com 905c without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4. Vanh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 01 February 2004 7:54 am, Vanh Phom wrote: FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450 and 3com 905c without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4. How many frames per second are you getting in glxgears? Have you gotten Direct Rendering working? - -- The choices we make dictate the life we lead. To thine ownself be true. -- William Shakespeare KI4DPT -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHQutWMqSOYd58pwRAtKmAJwOMDc/K9kNXSxO1wcz40IOJdZ0IgCdEvi+ dajAEA4/YS9LnJ1uncr8LZo= =p+5E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sunday 01 February 2004 07:54 am, Vanh Phom wrote: Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 NIC? Any problems at all? FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450 and 3com 905c without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4. Yeah, 2.6 has been a real winner over here also. I've got it on two servers supporting a medium sized lan at work with out a sinlge glitch to mention. Makes one wonder how things could get any better. :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:04am up 123 days, 14:57, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel, but anticipate doing so here before too long. Cheers, Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:16:27 -0500 Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel, but anticipate doing so here before too long. Just curious. So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have none. What applications are you using? I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl. -- Collins - Denver Area - Gentoo stable kernel 2.6.2-rc1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Hi, On Sunday 01 February 2004 17:16, Sean Johnson wrote: Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. well, I had a big recompile session yesterday, because the latest nvidia-driversnptl refused to work. Up to that moment, everything was very pleasant, but I did not see any differences between nptl and non-nptl, so it was not too painful. (Well, glibc, gcc, X, qt, KDE complete.. I wasted a whole day... btw genlop is a real useful tool). Oh, and I tried 2.6 kernels with and without preemption and my system seems a little more fluid without preemption... Glück Auf Volker -- Conclusions In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug. Even with its numerical advantage removed, the Empire would still squash the Federation like a bug. Accept it. -Michael Wong -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:38, Collins Richey wrote: Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel, but anticipate doing so here before too long. Just curious. So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have none. What applications are you using? I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl. On the desktop system, I use gads of stuff, including KDE, GNOME, enlightenment (which is my primary window manager), OpenOffice, Abiword, Gnumeric, gaim, evolution, samba, nfs, openldap, mysql, MozillaFirebird, etc. I'm running off of an nvidia card using the 4496 drivers, since they seem to work better than the 5528 or 5532 drivers. I haven't tried the 5536 drivers yet. On the internet system, it's a bit more stripped down, as it's a headless box with more specific purposes, and is running stuff like apache w/ssl,php,mod_perl, mysql, openldap, postfix, etc. As far as what I did when switching over to nptl in both cases, I first booted from a 2.6 kernel. Then I added the nptl USE variable, and did an emerge glibc. When that was done, I then did an emerge -e system. Then as stuff broke, I recompiled it as well. Some of the more notable things that I had to recompile were apache, mysql, php, and X (for the desktop). In the case of X, it wasn't broken to the point of not working, but it had become quite flaky. Since the recompile, it hasn't given me any trouble. Unfortunately, since I didn't run into any problems, I'm not very good at offering any troubleshooting advice. :) Hope this is the sort of thing you were looking for. Cheers, Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:38 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:16:27 -0500 Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel, but anticipate doing so here before too long. Just curious. So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have none. What applications are you using? I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl. Mind if I intrude? I run everything that I want in portage... And whatever I need outside of it. No errors or no problems. That includes: KDE 3.1.4, 3.2.0, XMMS, JUK, GCC latest version, GLIBC, latest version, JAVA, firebird, jedit, netrexx, reginarexx, JUK, mpg321, alsa utils and libs latest versions, X 4.3.0-r3, apache, whatever I can find... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:33am up 123 days, 16:26, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Ditto here! bryce On Sunday 01 February 2004 03:32 am, Bill Roberts wrote: On 10:07 Sun 01 Feb , LJN wrote: Ok I want to switch for sure! Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 NIC? Any problems at all? The 3c905c works fine here. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html -- GPG public keys available at pgp.mit.edu pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
Jakub Krajcovic wrote: Hi people, for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all those that still haven't switched, have a look here: http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've already been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems. -- Andrew Gaffney System Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 776 North Bell Avenue Chesterfield, MO 63005 636-357-1548 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
