[gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-16 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hello all,
I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?
TIA 
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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 19:11, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know
> what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?

It really depends on what you want to do with the network. You'll find many 
howto's through google, though. Also, have a look at forums.gentoo.org for 
guides on how to share your portage tree between two computers, set up a mail 
server to serve two (or more) computers and more.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-16 Thread Phil Jackson
* Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Hello all,

Hello Jean,

> I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
> what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?

As the first person that replied to this message stated it really
depends on what you want to do;

A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT
connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever
going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill.

Phil

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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-16 Thread Jayson Garrell
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote:
> * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> 
> Hello Jean,
> 
> > I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
> > what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?
> 
> As the first person that replied to this message stated it really
> depends on what you want to do;
> 
> A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT
> connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever
> going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill.
> 
> Phil

Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable.

Jayson Garrell


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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-16 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 09/17/03 Jayson Garrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

> On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote:
>> * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> 
>> > Hello all,
>> 
>> Hello Jean,
>> 
>> > I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
>> > what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?
>> 
>> As the first person that replied to this message stated it really
>> depends on what you want to do;
>> 
>> A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT
>> connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever
>> going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill.
>> 
>> Phil
>
> Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable.
>
> Jayson Garrell
OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to
my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that
with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I
could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not
make it work
This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO
but any other advice will be welcome
Thx all,
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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-17 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?
   

OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to
my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that
with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I
could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not
make it work
This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO
but any other advice will be welcome
Thx all,
At first you have to make network connection between
PCs to work, but you still didn't say if it works or not.
So, can you ping to other PC?
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-17 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez





    Jean,

    Remember that you HAVE to use a crossover cable, as someone
mentioned previuosly. If you make a direct connection from network card
to network card without a hub, a normal network cable won't do the
trick.

    Regards
    Jose

Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

  Le 09/17/03 Jayson Garrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

  
  
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote:


  * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  
  
Hello all,

  
  Hello Jean,

  
  
I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know 
what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO?

  
  As the first person that replied to this message stated it really
depends on what you want to do;

A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT
connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever
going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill.

Phil
  

Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable.

Jayson Garrell

  
  OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to
my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that
with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I
could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not
make it work
This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO
but any other advice will be welcome
Thx all,
  






Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Sep 2003, at 7:43 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to
my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that
with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then 
I
could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could 
not
make it work
This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the 
NET-HOWTO
but any other advice will be welcome
You probably want to install Samba (SMB), then. This is an 
implementation of Microsoft filesharing for Linux, and will allow you 
to drag & drop files on your PC to & from your Linux box; I would 
imagine that KDE / Gnome also allow drag & drop of files on SMB shares, 
or you can mount Windows shares at the command-line on your Linux box.

First, as someone else has pointed out, you need to ensure that the two 
machines are connected via the RJ45 cable (as it's also called 
elsewhere). You need to allocate each machine a different IP address on 
the same subnet - something like 192.168.1.5 & 192.168.1.6, subnet mask 
255.255.255.0 - then `ping` between them.

When I first started networking I found Helmig's HOWTO for Windows 
useful: http://wown.com/
For configuring Samba: http://tinyurl.com/nnpz

HTH,

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-17 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 09/17/03 Jose Gonzalez Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

> Jean,
>
> Remember that you HAVE to use a crossover cable, as someone
> mentioned previuosly. If you make a direct connection from network
> card to network card without a hub, a normal network cable won't do
> the trick.
>
> Regards
>

>>>Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable.
>>>
>>Jayson Garrell

Yes, thanks for this; I think what I have now is a normal network
cable. Let me try to figure out what the crossover cable is in french...
Thx all

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Re: [gentoo-user] small network

2003-09-17 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 09/17/03 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

> On 17 Sep 2003, at 7:43 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>
>> OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to
>> my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that
>> with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but
>> then I
>> could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I
>> could not
>> make it work
>> This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the
>> NET-HOWTO
>> but any other advice will be welcome
>
> You probably want to install Samba (SMB),

done already

> then. This is an implementation of Microsoft filesharing for Linux, and
> will allow you to drag & drop files on your PC to & from your Linux box;
> I would imagine that KDE / Gnome also allow drag & drop of files on SMB
> shares, or you can mount Windows shares at the command-line on your
> Linux box.
>
> First, as someone else has pointed out, you need to ensure that the
> two machines are connected via the RJ45 cable (as it's also called
> elsewhere). You need to allocate each machine a different IP address
> on the same subnet - something like 192.168.1.5 & 192.168.1.6, subnet
> mask 255.255.255.0 - then `ping` between them.

My problem is here: it doesn't work

>
> When I first started networking I found Helmig's HOWTO for Windows
>useful: http://wown.com/ For configuring Samba: http://tinyurl.com/nnpz

I'll look at these, thx



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