Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
But if I boot into 2.6.7-hardened-r17 with alsa compiled in, sound works great. I'm just wondering, since the error message you showed above meant the device files weren't there, are you using udev or devfs? If devfs, did you forget to enable 'mount at boot' or anything like that? -- Calvin Walton Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but since sound works great in 2.6.7 but not in 2.6.10, there has to be some type of a kernel problem right? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:46:27 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if I boot into 2.6.7-hardened-r17 with alsa compiled in, sound works great. I'm just wondering, since the error message you showed above meant the device files weren't there, are you using udev or devfs? If devfs, did you forget to enable 'mount at boot' or anything like that? -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
I turned the volume and pcm up in the xfce4 mixer (even though it's grayed out), but alsamixer is a bad command. When I open xmovie in a terminal and try to play an MP3, I get this: open odevice failed Ahh...that's a different issue. So what's in /dev, /dev/snd/, and /dev/sound/? Did you reboot after getting the modules setup in /etc/module.d/alsa and running update-modules force? An open odevice failed is due to no devices in /dev - /dev/dsp /dev/pcm with associated device nodes in /dev/snd and /dev/sound. Or it's a bad error message meaning the current user doesn't have permission to use the devices. Hi Bob, I don't have anything in /dev/sound. Here's /etc/modules.d: aliases ath_pci i386 ppp slmodem It sounds like I need an alsa in there? I always compile everything I can into the kernel so this module stuff is new to me. - Grant Bob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
Hi Grant, I don't have anything in /dev/sound. Here's /etc/modules.d: aliases ath_pci i386 ppp slmodem It sounds like I need an alsa in there? I always compile everything I can into the kernel so this module stuff is new to me. Per-chance have you emerged alsa-lib alsa-utilities alsa-oss? And you'll need to - rc-update add alsasound boot Once the above is in place, edit /etc/modules.d/alsa, add the sound card defs, reboot (yes, you really, really need to reboot), and run alsamixer in a term, unmute the card, adjust the volume levels and esc to exit the mixer. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
Hi Grant, I don't have anything in /dev/sound. Here's /etc/modules.d: aliases ath_pci i386 ppp slmodem It sounds like I need an alsa in there? I always compile everything I can into the kernel so this module stuff is new to me. Per-chance have you emerged alsa-lib alsa-utilities alsa-oss? And you'll need to - rc-update add alsasound boot Once the above is in place, edit /etc/modules.d/alsa, add the sound card defs, reboot (yes, you really, really need to reboot), and run alsamixer in a term, unmute the card, adjust the volume levels and esc to exit the mixer. Bob Hi Bob, All this extra stuff is being done on the off-chance that sound wasn't working because alsa was compiled into the kernel instead of as a module. Why would alsa work as a module, but not when built into the kernel? Avoiding all of this is one of the reasons I moved up to 2.6. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
Hi grant, All this extra stuff is being done on the off-chance that sound wasn't working because alsa was compiled into the kernel instead of as a module. Why would alsa work as a module, but not when built into the kernel? Avoiding all of this is one of the reasons I moved up to 2.6. Just to avoid extra work for my self, I have two rules I follow - all sound/v4l drivers are compiled as modules. And all ethernet drivers are compiled into the kernel. This is not to say that they don't work the other way. But there are certain drivers that don't and I don't want to remember which they are. Thus, yes, alsa is always best compiled as a module and not in the kernel. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:13:56 -0800, Grant wrote: I don't have anything in /dev/sound. Here's /etc/modules.d: aliases ath_pci i386 ppp slmodem All this extra stuff is being done on the off-chance that sound wasn't working because alsa was compiled into the kernel instead of as a module. Why would alsa work as a module, but not when built into the kernel? Probably because you are using the slmodem drivers. which also have something to do with ALSA. I don't know the details, but when I installed slmodem on my laptop, it warned that the also driver had to be a module. you also need to re-emerge slmodem after compiling a new lernel. Avoiding all of this is one of the reasons I moved up to 2.6. It's not the same problem as with 2.4. there, ALSA was separate fro the kernel, so you had to re-emerge alsa-drivers after recompiling the kernel. With 2.6 the ASLA modules are compiled at the same time as the rest of the kernel, so having them as modules causes no extra work. -- Neil Bothwick This is a test of the emergency tagline stealing system. pgpPgUlrknFvc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
All this extra stuff is being done on the off-chance that sound wasn't working because alsa was compiled into the kernel instead of as a module. Why would alsa work as a module, but not when built into the kernel? Probably because you are using the slmodem drivers. which also have something to do with ALSA. I don't know the details, but when I installed slmodem on my laptop, it warned that the also driver had to be a module. But if I boot into 2.6.7-hardened-r17 with alsa compiled in, sound works great. - Grant Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:45:48 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sound works great for me in 2.6.7 by selecting the following PCI device: * Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111 but there is no such option in 2.6.10 and the closest I see is this: * Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller but I have no sound. Hmm. I havn't been using the in-kernel ALSA, but when i check, the Intel i8x0 driver has been renamed in the configuration screen. If you look at the details (? in menuconfig), it is still CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0, the same thing. Does anyone know how I can get sound back? It seems strange that a working audio driver would be pruned from the kernel like this. Is there any output from the kernel when loading the sound driver in dmesg? also try building the alsa stuff as modules, i have occasionally seen problems when it is built into the kernel. -- Calvin Walton Hi Calvin, Thanks a lot for taking the time to look this over. Here's some stuff from dmesg that looks sound-related: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49395 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 48000 ALSA device list: #0: SiS SI7012 with AD1981B at 0x1400, irq 5 Not too great though. I'll try compiling all the alsa stuff as modules. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:45:48 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sound works great for me in 2.6.7 by selecting the following PCI device: * Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111 but there is no such option in 2.6.10 and the closest I see is this: * Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller but I have no sound. Hmm. I havn't been using the in-kernel ALSA, but when i check, the Intel i8x0 driver has been renamed in the configuration screen. If you look at the details (? in menuconfig), it is still CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0, the same thing. Does anyone know how I can get sound back? It seems strange that a working audio driver would be pruned from the kernel like this. Is there any output from the kernel when loading the sound driver in dmesg? also try building the alsa stuff as modules, i have occasionally seen problems when it is built into the kernel. -- Calvin Walton I loaded 8 modules, but the xfce4 mixer is grayed out even after I load them. I've tried restarting X, but it stays grayed out. I tried to play an MP3 anyway, but still no sound. This is what I get in dmesg after loading the modules: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5 PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:02.7[C] - GSI 5 (level, low) - IRQ 5 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49433 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 48000 Here are the modules I loaded: snd snd-seq-device snd-seq snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 Any ideas? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
Here are the modules I loaded: snd snd-seq-device snd-seq snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 Any ideas? Did you unmute the main, pcm, and ext. power amp switch (if there is one) in alsamixer? Or raise the gain of the appropriate channels with alsamixer? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
Here are the modules I loaded: snd snd-seq-device snd-seq snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 Any ideas? Did you unmute the main, pcm, and ext. power amp switch (if there is one) in alsamixer? Or raise the gain of the appropriate channels with alsamixer? Bob I turned the volume and pcm up in the xfce4 mixer (even though it's grayed out), but alsamixer is a bad command. When I open xmovie in a terminal and try to play an MP3, I get this: open odevice failed - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
I turned the volume and pcm up in the xfce4 mixer (even though it's grayed out), but alsamixer is a bad command. When I open xmovie in a terminal and try to play an MP3, I get this: open odevice failed Ahh...that's a different issue. So what's in /dev, /dev/snd/, and /dev/sound/? Did you reboot after getting the modules setup in /etc/module.d/alsa and running update-modules force? An open odevice failed is due to no devices in /dev - /dev/dsp /dev/pcm with associated device nodes in /dev/snd and /dev/sound. Or it's a bad error message meaning the current user doesn't have permission to use the devices. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:45:48 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sound works great for me in 2.6.7 by selecting the following PCI device: * Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111 but there is no such option in 2.6.10 and the closest I see is this: * Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller but I have no sound. Hmm. I havn't been using the in-kernel ALSA, but when i check, the Intel i8x0 driver has been renamed in the configuration screen. If you look at the details (? in menuconfig), it is still CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0, the same thing. Does anyone know how I can get sound back? It seems strange that a working audio driver would be pruned from the kernel like this. Is there any output from the kernel when loading the sound driver in dmesg? also try building the alsa stuff as modules, i have occasionally seen problems when it is built into the kernel. -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
