Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 15. September 2003 18:12 schrieb ext Gour:
> Dirk Heinrichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been
> > integrated into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.
>
> What do you recommend: LVM2 or EVMS2 since both use the same Device
> Mapper?

Depends on what you want to achieve. If you just want logical volumes, LVM 
(I ommit the "2") is fine. EVMS gives you much more. It handles the whole 
process from partitioning to fs creation in one single program (either 
ncurses or gtk based). It also has so called feature plugins, which perform 
special tasks on a per volume basis (i.e. I use the BBR plugins on all 
volumes on a laptop). 

Maybe you should take a look at http://evms.sourceforge.net and decide for 
yourself.

OTOH, you could just start with LVM and switch over to EVMS later. It has a 
plugin for LVM volumes.

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Vaughn
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Both EVMS2 and LVM2 are backwards-compatible with LVM1 and the volumes
generated by it.
Stroller wrote:
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| On 15 Sep 2003, at 2:05 pm, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
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|> Am Montag, 15. September 2003 15:04 schrieb Collins Richey:
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|>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support
|>> for
|>> LVM, and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?
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|> Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been integrated
|> into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.
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|
| Sorry. I don't understand what you just said. 8-\
| I think LVM2 is supposed to be backwards compatible with LVM1. Is that
| right..?
|
| Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Sep 2003, at 2:05 pm, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Montag, 15. September 2003 15:04 schrieb Collins Richey:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support 
for
LVM, and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?
Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been 
integrated
into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.
Sorry. I don't understand what you just said. 8-\
I think LVM2 is supposed to be backwards compatible with LVM1. Is that 
right..?

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Gour
Dirk Heinrichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been integrated 
> into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.

What do you recommend: LVM2 or EVMS2 since both use the same Device
Mapper?

Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 15. September 2003 15:04 schrieb Collins Richey:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support for
> LVM, and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?

Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been integrated 
into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:45:07 -0500
Stephen Boulet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've  been very happy with LVM. I have /root on reiserfs and /boot on ext2, 
> but all my other partitions are on LVM and are reiserfs:
> 

> 
> I don't know how representative my experiences have been, but I ended up 
> assigning too much space to the /tmp and /var partitions by following the 
> guide. YMMV.
> 
> With reiserfs, shrinking a partition isn't hard at all.
> 
> In general, I'm very happy with my setup. I've both grown and shrunk 
> partitions, and it was easy.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -- Stephen
> 
> On Monday 15 September 2003 02:16 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Montag, 15. September 2003 08:57 schrieb Gour:
> > > Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
> > > install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.
> > >
> > > Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G & 80G) install on home machine?
> >
> > Yes, why not? I'd use EVMS, though.
> >

> >
> > I've got a some shell code to create an initrd for EVMS, which you could
> > use as starting point for your own, if you want.
> >

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support for LVM,
and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Stephen Boulet
I've  been very happy with LVM. I have /root on reiserfs and /boot on ext2, 
but all my other partitions are on LVM and are reiserfs:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 2.9G  243M  2.6G   9% /
/dev/vg/usr10G  6.5G  3.6G  65% /usr
/dev/vg/usr_local  10G  4.9G  5.2G  49% /usr/local
/dev/vg/home   30G   18G   13G  60% /home
/dev/vg/opt   2.0G  1.7G  330M  84% /opt
/dev/vg/var   8.0G  2.3G  5.8G  29% /var
/dev/vg/tmp   3.0G  322M  2.7G  11% /tmp
none  252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1  99M  9.3M   85M  10% /boot

I don't know how representative my experiences have been, but I ended up 
assigning too much space to the /tmp and /var partitions by following the 
guide. YMMV.

With reiserfs, shrinking a partition isn't hard at all.

In general, I'm very happy with my setup. I've both grown and shrunk 
partitions, and it was easy.

Good luck.

-- Stephen

On Monday 15 September 2003 02:16 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Montag, 15. September 2003 08:57 schrieb Gour:
> > Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
> > install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.
> >
> > Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G & 80G) install on home machine?
>
> Yes, why not? I'd use EVMS, though.
>
> > In Gentoo's LVM docs it is recommended NOT to put
> > /etc
> > /lib
> > /mnt
> > /proc
> > /sbin
> > /dev
> > /root
> >
> > in LVM partition.
>
> Hmm, the list above combines to /. So unless you use an initrd to do the
> volume discovery at boot time, you should leave /boot and / on standard
> partitions, the rest can be on LVM volumes. However, if you think you'll
> need to resize / anytime in the future, use an initrd and put / on LVM
> also.
>
> I've got a some shell code to create an initrd for EVMS, which you could
> use as starting point for your own, if you want.
>
> HTH...
>
>   Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 15. September 2003 08:57 schrieb Gour:
> Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
> install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.
>
> Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G & 80G) install on home machine?

Yes, why not? I'd use EVMS, though.

> In Gentoo's LVM docs it is recommended NOT to put
> /etc
> /lib
> /mnt
> /proc
> /sbin
> /dev
> /root
>
> in LVM partition.

Hmm, the list above combines to /. So unless you use an initrd to do the 
volume discovery at boot time, you should leave /boot and / on standard 
partitions, the rest can be on LVM volumes. However, if you think you'll 
need to resize / anytime in the future, use an initrd and put / on LVM 
also.

I've got a some shell code to create an initrd for EVMS, which you could use 
as starting point for your own, if you want.

HTH...

Dirk
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