Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 23:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?':
> I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian paradigm.
>  My first distro was Debian.  So a comparison to Debian would do me a
> world of good.

ARCH ~= STABLE

but more volatile -- there's no real release version, packages are 
maintained separately unless they are packaged together upstream or depend 
on one another so you'll still get regular updates, but the packages have 
been though some amount of testing by the devs and those running:

~ARCH ~= TESTING

though there's less testing, packages don't have to survive being masked 
for any period of time so you will occasionally get an package that would 
only be suited for "Sid".  It's still exceedingly rare for these packages 
to screw your system, but it is possible especially if you don't read the 
e(info|notice|warn)s that are output during the install or become lax in 
your config file updating.  Anything truly experimental will be masked 
while the devs (and brave users) test internally.

If you do run ~arch and can spend some time reporting you successes and 
failures, consider becoming an arch tester, assuming your arch needs more.

package.mask'd, profile masked, or missing keyword ~= SID (or worse)

These packages are either experimental with changes that are likely to 
break the system, or have been known to break someones system, possibly 
including data loss.  Some development teams *cough*KDE*cough* are quite 
flexible with the "experimental" label -- I had kde 3.5 installed with few 
to no problems for (what seemed like) months before they were unmasked.

Of course, ebuilds in the forums and bugzilla (and anywhere else other than 
the standard portage tree) are like foreign repositories.  Gentoo devs 
(and most of the people on the mailing lists) can't and won't provide 
support for those packages or problems that may/might be caused by them.

-- 
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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] Non Standard X Resolution

[Jure Varlec]

On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:46, Jamie wrote:
> In the next few days I will be getting my brand new Dell 2007WFP LCD
> delivered and obviously I want to use it on my Gentoo box.
> This screen uses a non-standard resolution of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I have no
> idea how to get this setting in my XOrg setup. Can anyone point me in the
> right direction?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jamie

It's a valid resolution, simply put it under Modes, Subsection Display, 
Section Screen.
The only problem you should have are invalid VideoBIOS entries if your card is 
an i915.


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[gentoo-user] gentoo at linuxworld in san francisco this summer?

[michael]

Will Gentoo have a presence at LinuxWorld in San Francisco, in August? I
think last year they had a booth in the .org pavillion.

As a San Fransiscan Gentoo user, I'd like to be involved. To whom do I
speak?

Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] eix corruption?

[Andrew Frink]

On 5/3/06, JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:> This was caused by a change to the portage metadata format.  I believe the> solution is to add 'PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD="backport"' to your /etc/eixrc.That was the ticket : )
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gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listalso you could upgrade your version of eix to a newer version, that fixed it for me.

Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[Farhan Ahmed]

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> I just discovered something (I think).  Probably everyone else already
> knew it but didn't tell me. Shame on all of you!

Had we told you, would you be this excited about discovering the new
feature?

> 
> Do all audio cd's have the mp3's and ogg files on them also
> 

No..

> (snip)

I'm hoping that KDE Dev's decide to the same to DVD also.. It'd be
great.. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie partiton type question

[Farhan Ahmed]

Martin S wrote:
> (snip)
> 
> I can mount /dev/usb as root and r/w to it. But as user I get
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mount /mnt/usb
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
>   missing codepage or other error
>   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>   dmesg | tail  or so
> 
> And dmesg | tail says
> ...
> FAT: invalid media value (0x01)
> VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda.
> 
> So where am I going wrong? Please help this befuddled temporary newbie.
> 
> (snip)

Try changing the permissions of /dev/sda*.. I suggest you do a

chmod 0666 /dev/sda*

and then try to mount it.. If it succeeds then change the ownership to
group disk

chown root:disk /dev/sda*

and the permissions to 660 (rw/rw)

chmod 0660 /dev/sda*

I'm not sure whether this will help but it's worth giving a try..

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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie partiton type question

[Martin S]

Changed /etc/fstab accordingly. Didn't help much.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mount /mnt/usbmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,   missing codepage or other error   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dmesg | tailInbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:e0:00:9b:77:39:00:d0:02:c7:60:00:08:00 SRC="" href="http://215.94.188.166">215.94.188.166 DST=
85.225.73.22 LEN=521 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=50 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=31260 DPT=1026 LEN=501Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:e0:00:9b:77:39:00:d0:02:c7:60:00:08:00 SRC="" href="http://202.97.238.131">202.97.238.131 DST=
85.225.73.22 LEN=491 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=45 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=33162 DPT=4081 LEN=471FAT: bogus number of reserved sectorsVFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.
FAT: bogus number of reserved sectorsVFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.FAT: bogus number of reserved sectorsVFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.2006/5/3, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 03/05/06, Robert Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> have you tried to change "/dev/sda" to "/dev/sda1" in fstab?> best regards. robertAs Robert says, change sda to sda1 and you may also want to add
noatime.  Then you should be able to mount it as a (single) user.  Ifyou have different users and want to allow any one of them to unmountit irrespective of who originally mounted it, then replace user with
users.To unmount it run:$ sync && umount /mnt/sda1or just:$ eject /mnt/sda1--Regards,Mick--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
 mailing list-- Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Non Standard X Resolution

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

On Thursday, May 4 2006 13:16, Jamie wrote:
> In the next few days I will be getting my brand new Dell 2007WFP LCD
> delivered and obviously I want to use it on my Gentoo box.
> This screen uses a non-standard resolution of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I have no
> idea how to get this setting in my XOrg setup. Can anyone point me in the
> right direction?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jamie

How exactly is this non standard? It is a perfectly valid resolution, my 
laptop screen has the same resolution.

You will most probably only have too add a "1680x1050" mode to the Screen 
section of your xorg.conf and possibly fiddle with the hsync and vrefresh 
settings if you have them set.

It should just work, assuming your video card is capable of outputting that 
resolution, most are afaik.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

[lordsauronthegreat]

On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:34 am, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 5/1/06, Farhan Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86", it
> > might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it
> > has not broken a thing in my system.
>
> And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you
> are prepared for the consequences.

WHAT CONSEQUENCES!?

I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian paradigm.  My 
first distro was Debian.  So a comparison to Debian would do me a world of 
good.

> It is very much a testing environment, where either the ebuild or the
> package itself might not be completely stable, or worse, incompatible
> with previous configuration files or other packages on your system.
> Baselayout and udev have been particularly 'dangerous' on ~x86
> recently.
>
> Additionally, ~x86 updates more frequently than x86, so you will have
> much more downloading and compiling to do at each update.

Yeah, I think I'll avoid that until I have a distcc network running!  
Compiling on my poor laptop takes *forever!*

> Yes ~x86 does work most of the time, and the Gentoo devs are extremely
> good at fixing problems quickly.  But it can be expected to break
> occasionally, and you need to know what do when it does.

Mean time to failure?

> If you want ~x86 for specific packages, use /etc/portage/package.keywords.

Okay.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

[lordsauronthegreat]

On Monday 01 May 2006 11:51 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
> > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"
>
> no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you
> want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it.

Why I asked before doing.  What is it?

> > > MAKEOPTS=""
> >
> > MAKEOPTS="-j2"
>
> -j1 is a good one for singlecore/single cpu computer, where the compiling
> is running in the background.

Okay.  That sounds non-violate.

> > > USE=" X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb
> > > bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri
> > > dvd dvdread elibc_glibc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam
> > > fastbuild foomaticdb
> > > force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm
> > > gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java
> > > javascript kde kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit
> > > mikmod mhash mng motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg
> > > opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline
> > > samba sdl session simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2
> > > svg tcltk tcpd tiff tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb
> > > udev userland_GNU vorbis x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib"
> >
> > Do you really need all these USE flags and features? I think not.. Add
> > USE flags that really are useful not add them just because they might
> > become useful sometime.. The more features you have in your packages,
> > the slower and more memory hungry they are.. Take a look at my USE
> > flags..
>
> you think - but you don't know what he wants and needs.

I didn't change many from the defaults because I didn't know what most of them 
were.  If it ain't broke don't fix it.

> btw, I would emerge ufed and work down the list

I'll emerge it now, and ask you what on earth it is now as well.

> > USE="-X -arts -apache2 -berkdb -cups -dri -eds -esd -gdbm -gnome
> > -gstreamer -gtk -gpm -xmms 3dnow acl bash-completion bzip2 fbcon hal lzo
> > mbox mmx nsplugin nvidia offensive sse svga tiff urandom"
> >
> > -X because I don't every application to be built with X support, -arts
> > because of the same reason.. The applications that i think will need X
> > support I add a line like this to /etc/portage/package.use
>
> so you want to break douzends of packages for him? Why? -dri? Maybe he
> needs it? fbcon? Why? who needs it? You are telling him to deactivate
> usefull stuff and activate useless? Great!

Yeah, but I don't usually go through and add stuff to package.use.

> > Remember, always add the minimum USE flags you need to /etc/make.conf,
> > you should always tune your system to specific packages by adding USE
> > flags to be used for the specific package to /etc/portage/package.use
>
> oh, yeah, increase the work and risk subtle breakage here and there 

I agree with minimal USE flags, but I just don't know which ones I can get 
away with disabling.  So I go cautiously.  It's saved me much pain.


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[gentoo-user] Non Standard X Resolution

[Jamie]

In the next few days I will be getting my brand new Dell 2007WFP LCD
delivered and obviously I want to use it on my Gentoo box.
This screen uses a non-standard resolution of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I have no
idea how to get this setting in my XOrg setup. Can anyone point me in the
right direction?

Thanks

Jamie

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 15:00 -0700, James Ausmus wrote:
> On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > # Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0
> > domain hsd1.ma.comcast.net.
> > nameserver 68.87.71.226
> > nameserver 68.87.73.242
> 
> 
> Aha!  You're on Comcast!
> 
> I also have Comcast, and occasionally I have issues where their DNS
> servers will give me the wrong IP for a domain name (happens when
> their automated "You must register to use our system" system gets
> funked up and forgets that I'm a legitimate user) - I get their
> "Please contact us to sign up" redirected page instead. So, try
> copying the URL that emerge is trying to grab, paste it into your
> regular web browser, and see what comes up. If it comes up with a file
> download, then just save that file into /usr/portage/distfiles and
> then that particular emerge should be fine (but you will still
> apparently have a larger issue). If it comes up with the Comcast
> stupidity web page, then you know where your issue lays. I haven't
> even attempted to talk with Comcast tech support about it, as what
> they'll say is "You're using a router? You're running Linux? That
> configuration isn't support, hook a Windows box directly up to the
> cable modem and it should work fine". The way I personally resolved it
> was to use non-Comcast DNS server settings...
> 
> HTH-
> 
> James
> 

I had to deal with something similar when I was using CableOne.  I
registered my router once and never had problems with it again
afterward, aside from the fact that they charged me $99USD a month for a
static IP.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 17:44 -0400, Christopher E wrote:
> OK, Mick
> 
> Answer to proxy is NO
> 
> OK, Michael
> that run fine intill I run the norm "emerge ..."
> 
And what happens when you run the emerge normally?
> Ok, Johnson,
> # /etc/nsswitch.conf:
> # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-libs/glibc/files/nsswitch.conf,v
> 1.1 2005/05/17 00:52:41 vapier Exp $
> 
> passwd:  compat
> shadow:  compat
> group:   compat
> 
> # passwd:db files nis
> # shadow:db files nis
> # group: db files nis
> 
> hosts:   files dns
> networks:files dns
> 
> services:db files
> protocols:   db files
> rpc: db files
> ethers:  db files
> netmasks:files
> netgroup:files
> bootparams:  files
> 
> automount:   files
> aliases: files
> 
> # Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0
> domain hsd1.ma.comcast.net.
> nameserver 68.87.71.226
> nameserver 68.87.73.242
> 
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
> 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
> 127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0  00 lo
> 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
> 
> Ok I think I got them all :)  Now the questions is why would this do
> this AFTER / DURING a update using emerge as stated in other emails in
> this thread?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] [solved] no krename action when right-click on file/dir in konqueror

[Robert Walter]

On Thursday 04 May 2006 03:48, Ryan Tandy wrote:
> The recommended procedure is to submit it as a Gentoo bug (after making 
> sure it hasn't already been reported), and let the Gentoo maintainer 
> decide whether or not to file an upstream bug.
ok, i did that. thanks for your advise! 

> > ps. i run kde 3.4.3
> >   
> I run Openbox. :P
grrr :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

[Teresa and Dale]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>Set up a Samba server...  hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface 
>for that.  Very easy.
>
>In a related story...
>
>The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes 
>checking file intergrity.  It went so darn fast... I was sure something was 
>wrong.  No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow!  It's now a 
>pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze!  Linux and Samba is so much faster!
>  
>

I tried the KDE setup but still no go.  I think I need to change
something in the Linksys router, I'm not sure what though.  I think it
is working on the Linux end.  I can ping the windoze box from my Linux
box but I don't know how to do anything on the windoze side.  Pointers??

Clueless.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] OT - manual builds - ./configure error

[Lucien D.]

This problem has been irking me for some time now.

Whenever I try to build packages manually i.e. not emerge.  They fail
when executing ./configure with the following error:

Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-': machine `i686-pc-linux' not
recognized
configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub i686-pc-linux- failed

several different packages have done this so I believe it is a system
setup issue.  I can sometimes avoid the problem by passing a --build
argument to ./configure.  Luckily emerge seems to work fine, its only
manual compiles.

Any help would be appreciated...

-Lucien


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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

[lordsauronthegreat]

On Tuesday 02 May 2006 02:18 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, here's my deal.  My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has
> already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to
> working, again.  This is what I want to do to make it easy when this
> happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather
> than later too.

I just make sure I don't do anything important on Windoze.  Then if it dies... 
oh well, worse things can happen at sea.

> I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if
> it takes a few CDs.  When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the
> first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little
> interaction from me.
>
> Is there such a creature?  Please tell me it is free.  I'm used to Linux
> remember.

IBM/Lenovo has this neat little Rapid Restore thing which does exactly that.  
I'm not sure it'll work on a non-IBM machine, but it's worth a try.

> I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS.  <
> hangs head in shame >  She a great person in all other respects though.
> I just have to keep working on this area.

Not everyone is a computer junkie ; )

> Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her
> documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work.  :D
> Again, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I ask
> anywhere else.

Set up a Samba server...  hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface 
for that.  Very easy.

In a related story...

The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes 
checking file intergrity.  It went so darn fast... I was sure something was 
wrong.  No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow!  It's now a 
pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze!  Linux and Samba is so much faster!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Manuel McLure]

JimD wrote:

Manuel McLure wrote:


I *just* (as in an hour or so ago) upgraded from courier-imap to dovecot.
On large folders (1000+ messages) dovecot is *much* faster. I'd say 
around

5x faster when bringing up the folder in Squirrelmail.



Any major changes in setup?  Any quirks with your fav. client?


A couple. First of all you won't find your subscribed folders unless you 
copy courierimapsubscribed to subscriptions, and edit this to remove 
INBOX. from the start of each folder name. Second, it won't allow 
plain-text authentication over a non-SSL connection unless you change a 
configuration setting. This doesn't apply to 127.0.0.1 so SquirrelMail 
still works fine, but if you have non-encrypted IMAP on your internal 
network, you either want to go encrypted or specifically allow plaintext 
logins. Otherwise it's working beautifully.


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Re: [gentoo-user] no krename action when right-click on file/dir in konqueror

[Ryan Tandy]

Robert Walter wrote:
hi 
(posting to gentoo-user and gentoo-amd64)
  
gentoo-amd64 is not relevant - it's a KDE issue, not an AMD64 specific 
one.  gentoo-desktop would have been the most appropriate list, but 
-user works too.

with krename version 3.0.9 to 3.0.11, the 2 servicemenu files 
(krename_dir.desktop, krenameservicemenu.desktop) changed the location.
that's why the konqueror action "rename with krename" when right-clicking on a 
file or directory disappeared.
  

oh noes!

a simple mv solved the problem
$ mv /usr/share/services/krename* 
/usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
  

Glad to (hear|read) it.

my questions now.
should that be reported as a bug?
  

Yes.

because the problem is in the source tar not in the ebuild, it's rather a kde 
than a gentoo problem, right?
what would you do? 
  
The recommended procedure is to submit it as a Gentoo bug (after making 
sure it hasn't already been reported), and let the Gentoo maintainer 
decide whether or not to file an upstream bug.

best regards. robert
  

HTH.  Ryan

ps. i run kde 3.4.3
  

I run Openbox. :P
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[JimD]

Martin Richardson wrote:


Hi Jim,
I have not actually installed a web mail client, so I can't talk
from experience, but I was considering doing so a while back. Have You 
had a look at horde or more specifically horde-imp? Looked good for me 
at the time.


Good luck.


No I have not.  However I will check it out.

Thanks for the tip,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[JimD]

Manuel McLure wrote:


I *just* (as in an hour or so ago) upgraded from courier-imap to dovecot.
On large folders (1000+ messages) dovecot is *much* faster. I'd say around
5x faster when bringing up the folder in Squirrelmail.


Any major changes in setup?  Any quirks with your fav. client?

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[JimD]

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:


I never heard of it as "event driven programming", but I think what it
should refer to is the MVC pattern. The "events" for web applications
are of such a homogenuous nature that it has no worth to think of it as
"event driven". One needs a good understanding of MVC and the
Doc/Controller model (and serialization of state data) for building
fine complex webapps whose overall logic should keep being
understandable.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming


On the opposite, if you've just a plain simple page to display, MVC is
definitely way too heavy.


Very true.



-hwh




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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

[Teresa and Dale]

Kris Kerwin wrote:

>Dale,
>
>I believe that the kernels have been able to write to NTFS safely for 
>some time, now.
>
>In fact, as I recall from the last time that I built that 
>functionality into my own kernel, menuconfig said that there were 
>never any reported problems with the same code that has been in place 
>since 2.4. Since there were no reported problems, the code was 
>assumed stable.
>
>In short: it's always been able to write safely.
>
>Disclaimer:
>IANALKHG
>"I am not a linux kernel hacker guru"
>
>Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>Kris
>
>  
>


Thanks for that info.  I have this kernel version installed:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -a
> Linux smoker 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #2 PREEMPT Tue Dec 27 04:46:01 CST 2005
> i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ GNU/Linux
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /


I'll upgrade eventually.  I have read where people had trouble but they
never say what kernel version they are using so it's hard to tell if it
applies now or not.  I thought it best to err on the side of caution. 
Now I know it's OK and I may just try it with a few files to see what
happens.

I just wish I could put Linux on the stupid thing and be done with it. 
We spent almost $200.00 on that stupid windoze install.

Thanks for the info.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] no krename action when right-click on file/dir in konqueror

[Robert Walter]

hi 
(posting to gentoo-user and gentoo-amd64)

with krename version 3.0.9 to 3.0.11, the 2 servicemenu files 
(krename_dir.desktop, krenameservicemenu.desktop) changed the location.
that's why the konqueror action "rename with krename" when right-clicking on a 
file or directory disappeared.
a simple mv solved the problem
$ mv /usr/share/services/krename* 
/usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ 

my questions now.
should that be reported as a bug?
because the problem is in the source tar not in the ebuild, it's rather a kde 
than a gentoo problem, right?
what would you do? 

best regards. robert

ps. i run kde 3.4.3
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[JimD]

Michael Sullivan wrote:


I know about event-driven programming (I wrote in VB for years before I
achieved the enlightenment of Linux), but I didn't know that it was
possible with PHP.  I use event-driven techniques in Gambas and qt.  I
always thought squirrelmail code was like that for security purposes...


You can do event-driven programming in just about any language.

Here is the good Wiki article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming

At the bottom there are links to some good frameworks/libraries.  PHP 5 
has a nice one called PRADO.


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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[Richard Fish]

On 5/3/06, S. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Richard Fish wrote:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127618
Thanks for the link, very interesting indeed.

In comment #18 someone says that Nvidia won't release a newer legacy
driver set any time soon, whereas in the nVNews-forum someone from
NVIDIA Corporation announced that an updated legacy graphics driver is
planned for the near future. That one should match 1.0-8756.

Sounds pretty bad and good at the same time. Still: isn't someone of the
Gentoo-guys (experienced in patching) able to patch the old 6629 for the
time being or do I simply underestimate the effort?


The fact that no patch has been forthcoming, either from Gentoo or
someone on the nvnews forums, is probably an indicator that there is
no developer with all of:

a. A card requiring the legacy drivers.
b. A need to use 2.6.16+.
c. Knowledge of what needs to be done to fix the drivers.
d. The motivation to spend time supporting a proprietary driver.

As Chris indicated, you are being screwed by NVidia.  Their 7174
drivers are broken, and they are being very slow to fix them.  The
previous release is stable, but won't work with new kernels.  Pretty
much the same old story of proprietary drivers on Linux unfortunately.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Richard Fish]

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please respone ASAP as I would like to try and continul with this
stuff as I am having noting but bad luck with it.


You really need to give us more info than this.  Try running emerge
from a console, and redirect all the output to a file.  Something
like:

emerge --update --newuse --deep world > emerge-fail.txt 2>&1

Then you can post the contents of emerge-fail.txt.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Manuel McLure]

> Nick Rout wrote:
> I am running courier as well.  I haven't tried dovecot.  My largest
> folder has about 75 emails so I guess performance should be fine.
> I am the opposite and delete everything.  It has come to bite me in the
> bum many times.  I need to start saving emails.

I *just* (as in an hour or so ago) upgraded from courier-imap to dovecot.
On large folders (1000+ messages) dovecot is *much* faster. I'd say around
5x faster when bringing up the folder in Squirrelmail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Difficulties

[Richard Fish]

On 5/3/06, Kris Kerwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Why is it that these various packages haven't switched their
dependecies back to the 6.8.2-r6 virtual for x11-xorg? Why are they
looking for dependencies from the 7.0 tree, still? Is it because I
still have some rogue 7.0 packages installed on this computer?


Probably, yes.  For example, the ghostscript dependancy is:

   X? ( || ( (
   x11-libs/libX11
   x11-libs/libXt )
   virtual/x11 ) )

So if you had libXt still installed, portage might decide that it also
wanted libX11, and result in the masked problem you see.

Probably the easiest way to fix this is get a list of all the ~x86 x11
packages you have installed, and remove them.  Something like this
should do the trick:

# cd /var/db/pkg
# for x in `grep -l \~x86 x11-*/*/KEYWORDS` ; do

   echo =`dirname $x`
done | xargs emerge --unmerge -pv


HTH,
-Richard


And of

course, the mega-money question, how do I fix the problem? What other
information do you need to aid in diagnosing the problem?

Thanks in advance for all of your help!

Kris Kerwin
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Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 not compiling?

[Glenn Enright]

On Thursday 04 May 2006 4:40 am, Stephen Cantini wrote:

> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium-m -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"

Dont know much about the app, but does removing -msse3 make any difference?


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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[Glenn Enright]

On Thursday 04 May 2006 7:35 am, S. Schwartz wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127618
>
> Thanks for the link, very interesting indeed.
>
> In comment #18 someone says that Nvidia won't release a newer legacy
> driver set any time soon, whereas in the nVNews-forum someone from
> NVIDIA Corporation announced that an updated legacy graphics driver is
> planned for the near future. That one should match 1.0-8756.
>
> Sounds pretty bad and good at the same time. Still: isn't someone of the
> Gentoo-guys (experienced in patching) able to patch the old 6629 for the
> time being or do I simply underestimate the effort?
>
> Sigi
Nvidia dont release the source for this driver, which makes it difficult for 
others to patch it, even if they new how the card internals worked ;). Does 
the xorg nv driver do what you need?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Zac Slade]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 16:04, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Signals are the only way (or you have a "parent died" logic inside the
> > child process). And this will always open a racing condition when
>
> But I won't be able to use svc to interact with the child. That's why I
> feel I must reformulate the whole setup.
If you need deeper interaction with a child process then you might need to 
look outside the realm of shell.  I'd suggest looking at perl.  Not that you 
can't accomplish what you are looking for with bash scripting, but you may be 
better served by using a more full featured programming language than shell 
offers.
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[gentoo-user] Xorg 7 and disappearing mouse device

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi all,

a little while ago I posted that I would like to disable the pointer
stick on my laptop but still use the touchpad and usb mouse.  Well, it
couldn't have been simpler!  I have a device for each one
(/dev/input/mouse[0-2] and a common device that melds all three together
(/dev/input/mice).  So I just added two mouse devices to xorg.conf, and
two InputDevice's to my serverlayout, and removed the
single /dev/input/mice and it works great.

It also lets me specify Emulate3Buttons on my touchpad, and not the usb
mouse (which didn't work previously).

Well, almost great - here's the problem:

When I unplug one usb mouse and plug in another (or even the same
one) /dev/input/mouse2 disappears and /dev/input/mouse3 appears, so X
doesn't use it anymore (no mouse device exists for mouse3.

However, if I switch to a console before changing mice, the new mouse
takes the old position at /dev/input/mouse2, then I switch back to X and
it works.

I need to do this plugging and un-plugging because I have a wired
keyboard & mouse at my desk, but I'm frequently moving around our test
facility, so I take my wireless mouse with me.

I don't want to use udev, because I would like a general solution that
works for any of my usb mice (OK, I have a few at different locations :)

Ideally, I would like to make /dev/input/mice use all mice
from /dev/input/mouse2 and up (ie. not the stick or touchpad).  Can I do
that somehow?

Any pointers would be appreciated.  Thanks,
-- 
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If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact,
proof is necessary.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Difficulties

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

On Thursday, May 4 2006 8:15, Kris Kerwin wrote:
> I tried installing xorg 7.0, but of course, as it is masked, it didn't
> work. Since I'm a college student in the midst of finals, having a
> working graphical desktop is mission critical right now, and I don't
> have the time to tinker with it to get it to work. So, I reinstalled
> 6.8.2-r6. I did my best to remove all of the modular dependencies
> that 7.0 installed (this was definantly the hardest part).
>
> Now, however, whenever I try to emerge -Du world, I get warnings that
> various packages want to reinstall some of the dependencies from the
> 7.0 tree, but can't because they're masked. Unfortunately, emerge
> isn't very verbose, even with the -v option, and only returns one
> blocker at a time (instead of all of them). Here is it's output as a
> sample of the problem:

The modular X migration guide located at 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml includes a 
list of packages you may download which you add to package.keywords to unmask 
all of the X.org 7.0 packages. The package list is here: 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-packages.txt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

[Kris Kerwin]

Dale,

I believe that the kernels have been able to write to NTFS safely for 
some time, now.

In fact, as I recall from the last time that I built that 
functionality into my own kernel, menuconfig said that there were 
never any reported problems with the same code that has been in place 
since 2.4. Since there were no reported problems, the code was 
assumed stable.

In short: it's always been able to write safely.

Disclaimer:
IANALKHG
"I am not a linux kernel hacker guru"

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Kris

On Tuesday 02 May 2006 17:01, Teresa and Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> >First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in
> > between for good measure ;-).  Then you can use a Knoppix or
> > other Linux LiveCD on her machine, run partimage and save an
> > image of her OS partition on one of your boxen over the LAN.  If
> > you don't want to take up too much of your valuable disk space
> > you can of course compress the image.  If you rather save it on
> > CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file
> > sizes.
> >
> >You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box.
> >
> >http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
> >
> >Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE
> > and DriveImage XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE
> > LiveCD).
> >
> >http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> >
> >http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm
> >
> >They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I
> > use Knoppix and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down
> > to the relatively basic dd command) which should do the trick on
> > a VFAT partition.
>
> Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing.  < sighs >  I wonder if
> the newer kernel will write safely yet
>
> Dale
>
> :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Bo Andresen]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 17:26, Dave Jones wrote:
> Here's the output of  locale
>
> LANG=
> LC_CTYPE="POSIX"
> LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
> LC_TIME="POSIX"
> LC_COLLATE="POSIX"
> LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
> LC_MESSAGES="POSIX"
> LC_PAPER="POSIX"
> LC_NAME="POSIX"
> LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
> LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
> LC_ALL=
>
> and locale -a
>
> C
> POSIX
> en_GB
> en_GB.iso885915
> en_GB.utf8
> en_US
> en_US.iso885915
> en_US.utf8

It turns out I was wrong about this. If I type

# LC_ALL=POSIX oowriter2

they don't work for me either. Same goes for LC_ALL=C. All other locales on 
your list from locale -a they do work with. (Except en_GB.utf8 which results 
in a lot of errors on my system. That's why I use en_US.utf8. If you do wish 
to use UTF-8 you should follow the guide provided by Gentoo). So try changing 
your locale to something other than POSIX or C i.e. export LC_ALL=whatever. 
And start OOo from the prompt.

To change your locale permanently you should change /etc/env.d/02locale and 
run env-update. You only need to set LC_ALL it will all other LC_ variables.

HtH

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[gentoo-user] Portage Difficulties

[Kris Kerwin]

Hi all,

Sorry about the obscure subject line, but I wasn't sure how to 
concisely and correctly describe the problem in only a few words.

I tried installing xorg 7.0, but of course, as it is masked, it didn't 
work. Since I'm a college student in the midst of finals, having a 
working graphical desktop is mission critical right now, and I don't 
have the time to tinker with it to get it to work. So, I reinstalled 
6.8.2-r6. I did my best to remove all of the modular dependencies 
that 7.0 installed (this was definantly the hardest part).

Now, however, whenever I try to emerge -Du world, I get warnings that 
various packages want to reinstall some of the dependencies from the 
7.0 tree, but can't because they're masked. Unfortunately, emerge 
isn't very verbose, even with the -v option, and only returns one 
blocker at a time (instead of all of them). Here is it's output as a 
sample of the problem:

-
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-libs/libX11" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your 
request:
- x11-libs/libX11-1.0.0-r2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man 
page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by "app-text/ghostscript-esp-7.07.1-r8" [ebuild])



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-plugins/xmms-oss
!!! Depgraph creation failed.
--

Why is it that these various packages haven't switched their 
dependecies back to the 6.8.2-r6 virtual for x11-xorg? Why are they 
looking for dependencies from the 7.0 tree, still? Is it because I 
still have some rogue 7.0 packages installed on this computer? And of 
course, the mega-money question, how do I fix the problem? What other 
information do you need to aid in diagnosing the problem?

Thanks in advance for all of your help!

Kris Kerwin
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:33, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) 
A eureka moment!':
> On Wednesday 03 May 2006 20:08, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka
> > moment!':
> > > I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in
> > > kde.
> >
> > I have to agree.  In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent
> > storage.
>
> you can use audiocd:// for that too.

Unfortunately, I can't find how to pass special FLAC parameters to that 
encoder.  I use very aggressive settings (basically the limit of 
what "streamable FLAC" allows) to save HD space w/o loss of quality.  
Instead of the normal 20%-30% savings by using FLAC instead of wav, I get 
an average of 50%.

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[James Ausmus]

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0
domain hsd1.ma.comcast.net.
nameserver 68.87.71.226
nameserver 68.87.73.242



Aha!  You're on Comcast!

I also have Comcast, and occasionally I have issues where their DNS
servers will give me the wrong IP for a domain name (happens when
their automated "You must register to use our system" system gets
funked up and forgets that I'm a legitimate user) - I get their
"Please contact us to sign up" redirected page instead. So, try
copying the URL that emerge is trying to grab, paste it into your
regular web browser, and see what comes up. If it comes up with a file
download, then just save that file into /usr/portage/distfiles and
then that particular emerge should be fine (but you will still
apparently have a larger issue). If it comes up with the Comcast
stupidity web page, then you know where your issue lays. I haven't
even attempted to talk with Comcast tech support about it, as what
they'll say is "You're using a router? You're running Linux? That
configuration isn't support, hook a Windows box directly up to the
cable modem and it should work fine". The way I personally resolved it
was to use non-Comcast DNS server settings...

HTH-

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

OK, Mick

Answer to proxy is NO

OK, Michael
that run fine intill I run the norm "emerge ..."

Ok, Johnson,
# /etc/nsswitch.conf:
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-libs/glibc/files/nsswitch.conf,v
1.1 2005/05/17 00:52:41 vapier Exp $

passwd:  compat
shadow:  compat
group:   compat

# passwd:db files nis
# shadow:db files nis
# group: db files nis

hosts:   files dns
networks:files dns

services:db files
protocols:   db files
rpc: db files
ethers:  db files
netmasks:files
netgroup:files
bootparams:  files

automount:   files
aliases: files

# Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0
domain hsd1.ma.comcast.net.
nameserver 68.87.71.226
nameserver 68.87.73.242

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

Ok I think I got them all :)  Now the questions is why would this do
this AFTER / DURING a update using emerge as stated in other emails in
this thread?

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Dave Jones]

Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 19:39:
> On Wednesday 03 May 2006 17:26, Dave Jones wrote:

>>I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and
>>disabled.  No difference.  The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed
>>in OOo, but work normally in all other applications.

>>I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop
>>Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not
>>change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either.

> The us_intl keyboard layout is shown in [1]. Your problem related to the red 
> (i.e. dead) keys to the left of Enter, right?

That's correct.  Didn't want to say right, too confusing!

> What does this show?

> # grep -vr '^#\|^$' /etc/conf.d/keymaps

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS="backspace keypad euro"
DUMPKEYS_CHARSET=""

> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International

> Since the keys are dead you do have to press them twice in order to just get 
> a 
> single or double quote. If followed by a letter are able to produce accents 
> (ó) or umlauts (ö) instead. And just for the record. I can produce a ç now. I 
> don't seem to have any issues. But still a haven't tested with a broad range 
> of programs. ;)

I can hit the quote keys ten times and still produce no input at all
when running OOo.  With other applications (such as Thunderbird) it
works perfectly well.  That's what is so strange, it's only OOo which
shows the anomalous behaviour, only under KDE, not under IceWM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Martin Richardson]

On 23:14 Tue 02 May , Jim wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a webmail client?  I am looking for something more 
> modern than
> SquuirrelMal.  I have been using SquuirrelMal, however I find it the 
> interface too old
> and outdated.
> 
> I also looking into the code to see if I could freshen it up.  From a quick 
> look, the
> code is based on really outdated procedural-style PHP where the code and HMTL 
> is all
> mushed together resulting in a mess like this in compose.php:
> 
> 
> if ($compose_new_win == '1') {
> echo ' border="0">'."\n" .
> '   '.html_tag( 'td', '', 'right' ).
> ' value="'.
> _("Close").'" />'."\n";
> } else {
> echo '' . "\n";
> }
> if ($location_of_buttons == 'top') {
> showComposeButtonRow();
> 
> Does anyone know of a good *modern* webmail app?
> 
> Jim
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> 
> 

Hi Jim,
I have not actually installed a web mail client, so I can't talk
from experience, but I was considering doing so a while back. Have You 
had a look at horde or more specifically horde-imp? Looked good for me 
at the time.

Good luck.
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[b.n.]

You just discovered, why some people (like me) really love KDE, Konqueror and 
the kioslaves.


Also for the LOL moments it can give us on the gentoo mailing list :D

m.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Any ideas on when net-misc/asterisk-1.2.7 will be unmasked?

[Daevid Vincent]

> On 5/2/06, Daevid Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm a little confused because Asterisk 1.2.7 is the latest 
> according to
> > their website, and 1.2.5 was the previous version. Yet the 
> ebuilds go
> > steadily from 1.0.7 through 1.0.10 and then there's nothing 
> till this hard
> > masked 1.2.7 version... :-\
> >
> > Is this package not being actively maintained anymore?
> 
> Why would you think that?  One of the very links you pointed us to
> show that the the ebuild was last updated on Apr 16th.  That was
> barely two weeks ago, and mentions "work-in-progress wrapper
> initscript".  That sounds like there is still some work to do on
> 'Gentoo-izing' the program.

I thought that because of the gap in versions. I figured there would have at
least been a 1.2.5 ebuild or a 1.2.x one. Gentoo is usually on the cutting
edge for most packages, especially something as "hot" as Asterisk is right
now... I was a little embarrassed recently, when a debian friend was showing
me his Asterisk setup with some custom Ruby code and offered to help set me
up. But we couldn't get it to work and realized this version was so far from
his and we were running into SIP bugs or something...

> Plus, you can click on the developer's link , and see that in fact,
> Stefan is still very active on committing patches for all versions of
> asterisk and related packages.

Over-looked that the cryptic "(stkn)" was a useful link. I didn't realize
those were his initials until just now and I'm not one to go clicking random
links.

> Please bear in mind that all the Gentoo devs are unpaid voluteers with
> real lives and obligations.

Oh. I'm not complaining. I guess I was asking moreso to decide if I should
just grab the source from Asterisks site or if I should wait a bit till the
ebuild is available, at least as ~x86.

Thanks as always for your guidance Richard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:



Signals are the only way (or you have a "parent died" logic inside the
child process). And this will always open a racing condition when

But I won't be able to use svc to interact with the child. That's why I
feel I must reformulate the whole setup.



you *want* then redirected somewhere else, you are free to do so with
standard redirection operations before the ampersand.

I don't want redirection. Multilog will grasp stdout, but only of the
parent process (I think); once the latter exits, I don't think the other
process will be accessible.


It doesn't exit. It's just a shell built-in "wait" (no, in fact, it is
a glibc built-in "wait"). The file handles are kind of dup'ed, so
multilog should work just fine.


Thanks again. Writing to this list is never a waste of time!
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[gentoo-user] Sierra Wireless AirCard 850

[Sergio Polini]

I'ld like to know how to get the card working ;-)
That is:
-- minimal kernel version;
-- kernel config options;
-- auxiliary packages (pcmcia-cs, pcpcia-cs-cis, pcmciautils, 
etc.).

Thanks
Sergio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:59:23 -0500
Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know about event-driven programming (I wrote in VB for years before I
> achieved the enlightenment of Linux), but I didn't know that it was
> possible with PHP.  I use event-driven techniques in Gambas and qt.  I
> always thought squirrelmail code was like that for security purposes...

I never heard of it as "event driven programming", but I think what it
should refer to is the MVC pattern. The "events" for web applications
are of such a homogenuous nature that it has no worth to think of it as
"event driven". One needs a good understanding of MVC and the
Doc/Controller model (and serialization of state data) for building
fine complex webapps whose overall logic should keep being
understandable.

On the opposite, if you've just a plain simple page to display, MVC is
definitely way too heavy.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[S. Schwartz]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> Besides:
> ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/
> [...]
Wow! Couldn't have done that myself.

> there is A LOT after .15 - many of them with security fixes.
I'm not gonna repeat myself (again). Thanks for the suggestion, but for
two (already mentioned) reasons I'm not gonna go for that.

Sigi

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Wed, 3 May 2006 20:38:49 +0100 (WEST)
Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> 
> > Putting something in the background doesn't change what it's std(in|out|
> > err) are attached to.  They will still go to the [pt]ty like normal.  If
> Right, my mistake. Still, the parent script will exit sucessfuly, and
> then how can the backgrounded process be controlled, other than by
> killing it with kill -TERM or something like that?

Signals are the only way (or you have a "parent died" logic inside the
child process). And this will always open a racing condition when
relying on shell scripting, like I showed in my earlier answer. But for
multilog this won't matter as stdin/stdout is dup'ed to the child. It
does matter, though, for security holes.

> > you *want* then redirected somewhere else, you are free to do so with
> > standard redirection operations before the ampersand.
> I don't want redirection. Multilog will grasp stdout, but only of the
> parent process (I think); once the latter exits, I don't think the other
> process will be accessible.

It doesn't exit. It's just a shell built-in "wait" (no, in fact, it is
a glibc built-in "wait"). The file handles are kind of dup'ed, so
multilog should work just fine.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:08, S. Schwartz wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > which patches?
> > What would you missing?
>
> I don't really know, not even if those would be important to me. But I
> kind of trust into the work of the Gentoo-guys and believe the
> gentoo-sources are tested more intensive than vanilla sources (that's
> just hearsay).
>
> > And since the problem does not appear with vanilla kernels, it is worth a
> > try.
>
> Not really. Firstly, in portage only vanilla-sources-2.6.15.1 is
> declared as stable (and I won't use an unstable one). Since I never had
> problems with gentoo-sources-2.6.15-rsomething the whole procedure might
> work, but that would be kinda lame news to me.
> Secondly, I don't think avoiding the problem fixes it. I might have
> similar problems in the future if patching isn't done properly with
> certain packages that tend to come with problems (e.g. nvidia stuff).
>

if the problem is in the gentoo-sources itself, you can try as many nvidia 
drivers as you want.

Besides:
ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/
ChangeLog vanilla-sources-2.6.14.4.ebuild
files vanilla-sources-2.6.14.5.ebuild
Manifest  vanilla-sources-2.6.14.6.ebuild
metadata.xml  vanilla-sources-2.6.15.1.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.0.40-r1.ebuild  vanilla-sources-2.6.15.3.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.2.26-r1.ebuild  vanilla-sources-2.6.15.4.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.4.21.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.15.5.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.4.28.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.15.6.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.4.30.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.15.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.4.31.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.16.11.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.4.32.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.16.1.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.10.ebuild vanilla-sources-2.6.16.5.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.11.11.ebuild  vanilla-sources-2.6.16.9.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.11.12.ebuild  vanilla-sources-2.6.16.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.11.8.ebuild   vanilla-sources-2.6.17_rc1.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.12.5.ebuild   vanilla-sources-2.6.17_rc2.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.13.4.ebuild   vanilla-sources-2.6.17_rc3.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.14.2.ebuild   vanilla-sources-2.6.5.ebuild
vanilla-sources-2.6.14.3.ebuild   vanilla-sources-2.6.7.ebuild

there is A LOT after .15 - many of them with security fixes.
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 20:08, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka
>
> moment!':
> > Although
> > personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde.
>
> I have to agree.  In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent
> storage then transcode as needed to fit a bajillion songs on a portable
> device / ogg CD.

you can use audiocd:// for that too. There is a nice FLAC directory. Just copy 
it
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[gentoo-user] Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Mick]

Christopher E wrote:

> Hello there again,
> 
> I have just PING and also LINKS to a couple different sites from the
> vt and it work fine!  What does this mean?  any ideas would be great
> thank you
> 
> Sincerely,
> Christopher

To fix your xterm you may need to run:

# etc-update

It seems that something is amiss with your internet connection as far as the
portage is concerned.  Have you set up a proxy in your environment by any
chance?
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[Anthony E. Caudel]

Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3 2006 17:23, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> 
>>Does is also get the filenames, etc. from CDDB?
>>
>>Tony
> 
> 
> As far as I know, yes it does do a cddb lookup for the cd. Although 
> personally 
> I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde.
> 
I can't get kaudiocreator to compile.  It wants arts and I don't use arts.

Tony
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[gentoo-user] Re: soundcards inconsistent

[Michael Mauch]

wu chuanwen wrote:

> I don't konw why you need two soundcard! I just think that maybe one is
> enough.Once before I had two sound cards too,and at that time my gentoo can
> not have any sound(maybe not because  i had two soundcards but the init
> script).Anyway, I just reset my bios,and mask my first  soundcard which is
> in my board,and then the problem gone!Now everything is good!
> Maybe you can have a try if you don't need two soundcards!

I'm also using two soundcards now (onboard sound on A8V Deluxe and
CMI8738), because the onboard sound has no SPDIF input and the CMI8738
doesn't have internal connectors for headphones/mic for the front
connectors of the case.

  Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:


Putting something in the background doesn't change what it's std(in|out|
err) are attached to.  They will still go to the [pt]ty like normal.  If

Right, my mistake. Still, the parent script will exit sucessfuly, and
then how can the backgrounded process be controlled, other than by
killing it with kill -TERM or something like that?

you *want* then redirected somewhere else, you are free to do so with
standard redirection operations before the ampersand.

I don't want redirection. Multilog will grasp stdout, but only of the
parent process (I think); once the latter exits, I don't think the other
process will be accessible.





Thanks,

Jorge Almeida
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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 15:10 -0400, Christopher E wrote:
> Hello there again,
> 
> I have just PING and also LINKS to a couple different sites from the
> vt and it work fine!  What does this mean?  any ideas would be great
> thank you
> 
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
> 
> On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > i am talking and email right now from wth then gnome :-)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Christopher
> >
> > On 5/3/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Christopher E wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
> > > > see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
> > > > time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:
> > > >
> > > > "emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:
> > > >
> > >  emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
> > >  Downloading
> > >  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > >>>
> > > > --13:51:03--  
> > > > http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > > > Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
> > > > http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > > --13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > > > Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> > > > ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > > --13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > > >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > > > Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> > > > ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> > > > --13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> > > >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > > > Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.
> > > >
> > > > I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
> > > > I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
> > > > "emerge --update --deep --newuse world"
> > > >
> > > > Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing
> > > > so!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
> > > > you very much!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Christopher
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you sure you can access the internet at all?  Try to ping google or
> > > something and see if that works.  Maybe something got updated on the
> > > networking and you need to change a config file or do a etc-update.
> > >
> > > One reason I say this is that the mirror on the top of the list works
> > > fine, at least when I checked it.
> > >
> > > Hope this will help.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > > :-)

I don't understand exactly what the error is.  What happens when you say
"emerge -pv mozilla-firefox"?

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RE: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74]

I would like to see the contents of 

/etc/nsswitch.conf
/etc/resolv.conf

output of:

/sbin/route -n



-Original Message-
From: Teresa and Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/3/2006 2:55 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!
 
Christopher E wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
> see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
> time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:
>
> "emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:
>
 emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
 Downloading
 http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>>>
> --13:51:03--  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
> http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.
>
> I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
> I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
> "emerge --update --deep --newuse world"
>
> Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing
> so!
>
> Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
> you very much!!!
>
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
>
>

Are you sure you can access the internet at all?  Try to ping google or
something and see if that works.  Maybe something got updated on the
networking and you need to change a config file or do a etc-update.

One reason I say this is that the mirror on the top of the list works
fine, at least when I checked it.

Hope this will help.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[S. Schwartz]

Richard Fish wrote:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127618
Thanks for the link, very interesting indeed.

In comment #18 someone says that Nvidia won't release a newer legacy
driver set any time soon, whereas in the nVNews-forum someone from
NVIDIA Corporation announced that an updated legacy graphics driver is
planned for the near future. That one should match 1.0-8756.

Sounds pretty bad and good at the same time. Still: isn't someone of the
Gentoo-guys (experienced in patching) able to patch the old 6629 for the
time being or do I simply underestimate the effort?

Sigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:


* Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03/05/06 19:30]:

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:


You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group.
Something like this:

#!/bin/sh
trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM
echo "before"
( sleep 30; echo inside )
echo "after"


No use. trap will wait till the running child is completed, which is not what
I want (as reply of Hans-Werner).


Well, I just tried it, and it worked.


You mean the parent received the TERM signal while sleep'ing 30 and the
child terminated before the 30 seconds were through?
I intend to use the script with a long rsync, which must terminate when
receiving the signal.
I tested your script with 3000 instead of 30, and the script outputs
"after" and terminates when I send it a TERM; however, a process "sleep
3000" still comes out in the output of ps auxf (as an orphan), I had to
kill it explicitly.

Jorge
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Apache checksum?

[AJ Spagnoletti]

> It was discussed in the GWN recently.  You have a bad pycrypto
> installation.  I think the solution is sync and upgrade portage.
>


I just had this problem last week, a sync followed by a portage
upgrade fixed the problem.


AJ

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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

Hello there,

i am talking and email right now from wth then gnome :-)

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/3/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Christopher E wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
> see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
> time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:
>
> "emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:
>
 emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
 Downloading
 http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>>>
> --13:51:03--  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
> http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.
>
> I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
> I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
> "emerge --update --deep --newuse world"
>
> Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing
> so!
>
> Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
> you very much!!!
>
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
>
>

Are you sure you can access the internet at all?  Try to ping google or
something and see if that works.  Maybe something got updated on the
networking and you need to change a config file or do a etc-update.

One reason I say this is that the mirror on the top of the list works
fine, at least when I checked it.

Hope this will help.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

Hello there again,

I have just PING and also LINKS to a couple different sites from the
vt and it work fine!  What does this mean?  any ideas would be great
thank you

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello there,

i am talking and email right now from wth then gnome :-)

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/3/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher E wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
> > see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
> > time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:
> >
> > "emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:
> >
>  emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
>  Downloading
>  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> >>>
> > --13:51:03--  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
> > http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > --13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> > ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> > --13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> > ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> > --13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> >   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> > Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.
> >
> > I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
> > I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
> > "emerge --update --deep --newuse world"
> >
> > Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing
> > so!
> >
> > Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
> > you very much!!!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Christopher
> >
> >
>
> Are you sure you can access the internet at all?  Try to ping google or
> something and see if that works.  Maybe something got updated on the
> networking and you need to change a config file or do a etc-update.
>
> One reason I say this is that the mirror on the top of the list works
> fine, at least when I checked it.
>
> Hope this will help.
>
> Dale
> :-)
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie partiton type question

[Mick]

On 03/05/06, Robert Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


have you tried to change "/dev/sda" to "/dev/sda1" in fstab?
best regards. robert


As Robert says, change sda to sda1 and you may also want to add
noatime.  Then you should be able to mount it as a (single) user.  If
you have different users and want to allow any one of them to unmount
it irrespective of who originally mounted it, then replace user with
users.

To unmount it run:

$ sync && umount /mnt/sda1

or just:

$ eject /mnt/sda1

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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Justin Findlay]

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I now have just tryed "emerge mozilla-firefox and get the same errors
as I did in the other mail I sent,  I also tryed mirrorselect and it
said some thing about my internet connects but I am ON the internet
right now under linux (Gentoo-Gnome) so I don't understand that.


Can you paste the error?


Justin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

[Mick]

On 02/05/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mick wrote:

>They're both free and should do the job you want.  Personally,  I use Knoppix
>and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic
>dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition.

Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing.  < sighs >  I wonder if the
newer kernel will write safely yet


Sorry, I didn't explain it appropriately.  Partimage works fine (after
a you thoroughly defragment an NTFS partition) and will create a nice
compressed or uncompressed OS image file which can be saved:
1) on CD's/DVD;
2) on another computer over the network;
3) on another partition on the same machine - the latter cannot be NTFS.

So, you should have no problem trying it out.  After you defragment
your NTFS partition, use gparted (it also comes on LiveCD) to shrink
it and create a new VFAT, ext2, etc. partition on the same disk to
save the image in.  Of course, if the disk decides to pack up . . .
you better have those duplicate CD's handy!  ;-)

Note:  Should you decide to use a VFAT partition beware of its maximum
file size limit.  Use the Partimage slicing feature to save the image
into smaller multiple files.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Teresa and Dale]

Christopher E wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
> see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
> time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:
>
> "emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:
>
 emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
 Downloading
 http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>>>
> --13:51:03--  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
> http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
> ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
> --13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
>   => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
> Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.
>
> I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
> I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
> "emerge --update --deep --newuse world"
>
> Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing
> so!
>
> Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
> you very much!!!
>
> Sincerely,
> Christopher
>
>

Are you sure you can access the internet at all?  Try to ping google or
something and see if that works.  Maybe something got updated on the
networking and you need to change a config file or do a etc-update.

One reason I say this is that the mirror on the top of the list works
fine, at least when I checked it.

Hope this will help.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

Hello All,

I now have just tryed "emerge mozilla-firefox and get the same errors
as I did in the other mail I sent,  I also tryed mirrorselect and it
said some thing about my internet connects but I am ON the internet
right now under linux (Gentoo-Gnome) so I don't understand that.

Any idea what is going on?

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/3/06, Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Why are you limiting the emerge command to newuse only?

When all else fails, emerge -e world


-Original Message-
From: Christopher E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/3/2006 1:30 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

Hello there all,

I am now having a emerge issue, I am trying for the first TIME to
update all of what I have done to the latest and best updates :-)  any
how I did:

First I did the below in a xterm in gnome this when good:
"emerge sync"

Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
selected mirrors, so I rebooted after trying it again with the same
issue but this time I have 10 less to download:
"emerge --update --newuse --deep world

Ok now I am not able to get a xterm up in gnome and when I try the
above to things in a vt the first one works and then I do the next and
get the same issue and I even just tryed to emerge just one thing and
got the same issue what is this and why?  I would send you it but I am
in gnome and can not get xterm open to get the errors right

Please respone ASAP as I would like to try and continul with this
stuff as I am having noting but bad luck with it.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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RE: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74]

Why are you limiting the emerge command to newuse only?

When all else fails, emerge -e world


-Original Message-
From: Christopher E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/3/2006 1:30 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!
 
Hello there all,

I am now having a emerge issue, I am trying for the first TIME to
update all of what I have done to the latest and best updates :-)  any
how I did:

First I did the below in a xterm in gnome this when good:
"emerge sync"

Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
selected mirrors, so I rebooted after trying it again with the same
issue but this time I have 10 less to download:
"emerge --update --newuse --deep world

Ok now I am not able to get a xterm up in gnome and when I try the
above to things in a vt the first one works and then I do the next and
get the same issue and I even just tryed to emerge just one thing and
got the same issue what is this and why?  I would send you it but I am
in gnome and can not get xterm open to get the errors right

Please respone ASAP as I would like to try and continul with this
stuff as I am having noting but bad luck with it.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

Hello All,

I have tryed it in the vt and have also tryed to emerge other stuff to
see if it would work, I had tryed firefox and this is what I got this
time, this is ALL at the vt as xterm is NOT working:

"emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox" gives me:

emerge (1 of 24) app-shells/bash-3.1_p16 to /
Downloading http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013

--13:51:03--  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
  => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
Resolving www.gtlib.gatech.edu... >>> Downloading
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
--13:51:03--  http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
  => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
--13:51:03--  ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/bash31-013
  => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
Resolving mirror.datapipe.net... >>> Downloading
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
--13:51:03--  ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/bash-3.1-patches/bash31-013
  => `/usr/portage/distfiles/bash31-013'
Resolving ftp.cwru.edu... !!! Couldn't download bash31-013. Aborting.

I am able to do a emerge sync at the vt.  I also don't understand why
I am unable to open a xterm in gnome which worked fine into I did the
"emerge --update --deep --newuse world"

Also some one else did the same line as above and had NO problem doing so!

Thanks for your help as I really need it and well I am very new thank
you very much!!!

Sincerely,
Christopher


On 5/3/06, Justin Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
> stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
> selected mirrors

You can either wait for the gentoo mirrors to pick up your package or
you can look at the SRC_URI in the ebuild file so you can download the
file manually.


Justin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 12:13, Nich Steicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail':
> modern, i would advise RoundCube - though its main draw back is its
> reliance on Java (its written  in AJAX) - i personly

AJAX = Asynchronous Javascript And XML
Javascript != Java

AJAX isn't a language and doesn't have anything to do with Java.

Of course, roundcube might use Java AND AJAX or even use Java to generate 
the Javascript and/or XML parts of AJAX.  But you don't write applications 
in AJAX (as you state), you write them using AJAX and using AJAX doesn't 
automatically add a dependency on Java (as you imply).

-- 
"If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka moment!

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 03:07, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) A eureka 
moment!':
> Although
> personally I've always preferred kaudiocreator for cd ripping in kde.

I have to agree.  In no small part because I rip to FLAC for permanent 
storage then transcode as needed to fit a bajillion songs on a portable 
device / ogg CD.

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:25, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide':
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Christopher Fisk wrote:
> > It's just bash scripting, just tell bash to exec child.sh in the
> > background.
> >
> > /path/to/child.sh &
>
> Nope. I need the child in the foreground, so that its output and stderr
> goes to multilog.

Putting something in the background doesn't change what it's std(in|out|
err) are attached to.  They will still go to the [pt]ty like normal.  If 
you *want* then redirected somewhere else, you are free to do so with 
standard redirection operations before the ampersand.

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Justin Findlay]

On 5/3/06, Christopher E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
selected mirrors


You can either wait for the gentoo mirrors to pick up your package or
you can look at the SRC_URI in the ebuild file so you can download the
file manually.


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Re: [gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Jannis Achstetter]

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Christopher E schrieb:
> Hello there all,
Hello back ^^
>
> I am now having a emerge issue, I am trying for the first TIME to
> update all of what I have done to the latest and best updates :-)  any
> how I did:
>
> First I did the below in a xterm in gnome this when good:
> "emerge sync"
Yes, right command
>
> Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
> stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
> selected mirrors, so I rebooted after trying it again with the same
> issue but this time I have 10 less to download:
> "emerge --update --newuse --deep world
Kinda "wrong". You better add "-a" (or "-p") to see what will happen.
Don't trust portage blindly!
And: what wasn't portage able to resolve? Dependencies or the mirror
to fetch the file from? If it's the latter, don't worry, just use
another mirror.
>
> Ok now I am not able to get a xterm up in gnome and when I try the
> above to things in a vt the first one works and then I do the next and
> get the same issue and I even just tryed to emerge just one thing and
> got the same issue what is this and why?  I would send you it but I am
> in gnome and can not get xterm open to get the errors right
You could check "/var/log/emerge.log" to see what portage has emerged
and what package is causing your problem. As long as emerge works in a
VT this is ok.

Jannis Achstetter
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Bo Andresen]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 17:26, Dave Jones wrote:
> I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and
> disabled.  No difference.  The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed
> in OOo, but work normally in all other applications.
>
> I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop
> Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not
> change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either.
>
> If anything, the Regional Keyboard setting make the problem worse,
> affecting other applications too, so I disabled it again.

The us_intl keyboard layout is shown in [1]. Your problem related to the red 
(i.e. dead) keys to the left of Enter, right? I have changed to that layout 
now (with no KDE override) and it seems to work the way it should here now. 
I'm not sure it did before I changed the contents of /etc/conf.d/keymaps. 
What does this show?

# grep -vr '^#\|^$' /etc/conf.d/keymaps

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International

Since the keys are dead you do have to press them twice in order to just get a 
single or double quote. If followed by a letter are able to produce accents 
(ó) or umlauts (ö) instead. And just for the record. I can produce a ç now. I 
don't seem to have any issues. But still a haven't tested with a broad range 
of programs. ;)

> As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8.

You are not.

[SNIP]

> Maybe it's not an UTF-8 issue as Jerônimo suggested it might be, but I'm
> baffled by this odd kb behaviour showing only in OOo under KDE.
>
> Could you please show the output of locale and locale -a on your system?

Sure.

# locale
LANG=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.utf8"
LC_TIME="en_US.utf8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.utf8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.utf8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.utf8"
LC_NAME="en_US.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.utf8"
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8

# locale -a
C
da_DK
en_DK
en_DK.iso88591
en_DK.utf8
en_GB
en_GB.ansix341968
en_GB.iso88591
en_US
en_US.utf8
POSIX

But I don't really think this is the problem.

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[gentoo-user] PLEASE HELP!!! Emerge Isssue Now!

[Christopher E]

Hello there all,

I am now having a emerge issue, I am trying for the first TIME to
update all of what I have done to the latest and best updates :-)  any
how I did:

First I did the below in a xterm in gnome this when good:
"emerge sync"

Then I did the following command and it did about 10 emerges then it
stoped and said it could not resovle and it tryed it on all of the
selected mirrors, so I rebooted after trying it again with the same
issue but this time I have 10 less to download:
"emerge --update --newuse --deep world

Ok now I am not able to get a xterm up in gnome and when I try the
above to things in a vt the first one works and then I do the next and
get the same issue and I even just tryed to emerge just one thing and
got the same issue what is this and why?  I would send you it but I am
in gnome and can not get xterm open to get the errors right

Please respone ASAP as I would like to try and continul with this
stuff as I am having noting but bad luck with it.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Nich Steicke]

JimD wrote:



The SquirrelMail source code is trash.


I haven't gone through all of it, or even much of it to really know. 
Though the compose.php page was a real mess.   All I wanted to do was 
line the form buttons up nicely : )


Jim


i personly use both SquirrelMail and roundcube for my webmail here, as i 
prefer the interface for RoundCube, but SquirrelMail has some of the 
features that i need (mainly mail filtering, and it not requiring any 
thing more at the user end than a html browser).


i just took a quick glance at the compose page i have, and it seamed to 
be the the buttions were all nicely aligned


anyway - if your are looking for a web mail interface which looks 
modern, i would advise RoundCube - though its main draw back is its 
reliance on Java (its written  in AJAX) - i personly 
had no problems installing or configuring RoundCube, though i did a 
'manual' install (that is i didn't use a ebuild)


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[gentoo-user] Re: xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 not compiling?

[Sven Köhler]

> Sorry for the big post. I solved by emerging the 1.1.0 version, which is
> hard masked at the moment.

Hmm, that 1.1.x versions are part of xorg-x11 7.1 i guess - i wouldn't
use 7.1 material with xorg 7.0 - well, perhaps it works without
problems, so you might prove me wrong.



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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Moshe Kaminsky]

* Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03/05/06 19:30]:
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
> 
> >You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group.
> >Something like this:
> >
> >#!/bin/sh
> >trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM
> >echo "before"
> >( sleep 30; echo inside )
> >echo "after"
> >
> No use. trap will wait till the running child is completed, which is not what
> I want (as reply of Hans-Werner).

Well, I just tried it, and it worked.

Moshe


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Bo Andresen]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 18:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote:
> I mean issues with some keyboard layouts. Try to type some cedillas with
> a US-keyboard (combining ' and c ) in KDE with UTF-8 to see what you'll
> get.

Do you mean like this: ç? I use a danish keyboard layout and have no idea how  
to produce that character. This one was created in OOo by Insert Special 
Character (and copy'n'paste). I did try naming a file with that character and 
putting it in its contents and found no issues. But I don't know if that was 
what you meant. Anyway I'm not saying that there are no issues. I just 
haven't experienced any.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 not compiling?

[Stephen Cantini]

Stephen Cantini ha scritto:


Hello,

I'm trying to compile xorg 7.0 on my 2006.0 installed on a intel 
macmini. I had success compiling 6.8.2, but I really need the latest X 
server and latest i810 driver to get it to work properly. So I tried 
emerging modular x, but the process gets stuck on the last package 
before xorg-x11 itself: the mouse driver (xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4).


Can anybody help me with this issue? I really need to get it 
working... Any hint on where to look in the sources/ebuild?


Sorry for the big post. I solved by emerging the 1.1.0 version, which is 
hard masked at the moment.


Thanks
Stephen Cantini


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[gentoo-user] xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 not compiling?

[Stephen Cantini]

Hello,

I'm trying to compile xorg 7.0 on my 2006.0 installed on a intel 
macmini. I had success compiling 6.8.2, but I really need the latest X 
server and latest i810 driver to get it to work properly. So I tried 
emerging modular x, but the process gets stuck on the last package 
before xorg-x11 itself: the mouse driver (xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4).


Can anybody help me with this issue? I really need to get it working... 
Any hint on where to look in the sources/ebuild?


make.conf:

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium-m -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
USE="-cups -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa unicode cjk sqlite"
VIDEO_CARDS="i810"
INPUT_DEVICES="mouse keyboard"

emerge output:

>>> Compiling source in 
/var/tmp/portage/xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4/work/xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4 ...
* econf: updating xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4/config.sub with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
* econf: updating xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4/config.guess with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu 
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share 
--sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --prefix=/usr 
--datadir=/usr/share --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Christopher Fisk wrote:

It's just bash scripting, just tell bash to exec child.sh in the background.


/path/to/child.sh &



Nope. I need the child in the foreground, so that its output and stderr
goes to multilog.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Jorge Almeida]

On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:


You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group.
Something like this:

#!/bin/sh
trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM
echo "before"
( sleep 30; echo inside )
echo "after"


No use. trap will wait till the running child is completed, which is not what
I want (as reply of Hans-Werner).

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Jerônimo Backes]

Bo Andresen wrote:

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote:
  

Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.



What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have 
been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no 
issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. 
kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. 
kontact, konquerer, konsole..).


  
I mean issues with some keyboard layouts. Try to type some cedillas with 
a US-keyboard (combining ' and c ) in KDE with UTF-8 to see what you'll get.



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (Linux) surveillance system?

[Preston Hagar]

We use zoneminder (http://www.zoneminder.com/) with the non -G version of these cards:  http://www.icpamerica.com/products/accessories/IVC/IVC_200G.html
hooked up to fairly basic cameras through coax cable.  We currently have 9 cameras on a dual core Athlon 64 with about 1 TB SATA storage.  This may be a little more than you need, but if you only need one camera, you could probably go with the 100 series card and a less powerful server.  Zoneminder has a nice web interface that you can use to monitor your camera(s) and change settings/recording options.  You can put the cameras in motion detection mode, record all the time, monitor all the time, etc.  You can also define zones for each camera where you either specifically watch for motion or ignore motion.  For instance, one of our cameras has a flickering monitor that is usually on in its view.  We just set zoneminder to ignore the motion on the monitor.
Both the 200 and 100 series of the card we use can handle 4 cameras, the difference is that the 200 series has 4 processor chips (one for each camera), while the 100 series only has 1 processor that is shared for all the cameras.  We ordered our 200 series cards from ICP America directly and I seem to remember that they were about $150 - $175 each.
Hope this helps.PrestonOn 5/2/06, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello all.In the pursuit of a light physical security solution, I was wondering -
does anyone recommend a small-time nanny-cam or web cam monitoringsystem that can run atop Linux and accessed using a web browser? We'relooking to beef up physical security to our server room, but we don'thave tons to spend. We'd like the design discreet and simple for the
time being, until we can afford something huge.Just wondering.:-)-Jeff--Emperor Palpatine:Everything that has transpired has done so accordingto my design.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Dave Jones]

Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 16:06:
  KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.

>>>What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I
>>>have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have
>>>experienced no issues.

>>This came out of my original question about having problems with typing
>>accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3.

>>The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to
>>obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters
>>into an OOo document.

>>Section "InputDevice"
>>Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>>Driver  "kbd"
>>Option  "AutoRepeat""500 30"
>>Option  "CoreKeyboard"
>>Option  "XkbModel"  "logicdp"
>>Option  "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
>>EndSection

>>Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into
>>all other applications apart from OOo under KDE.

>>OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue.

> I still don't see that it has got anything to do with UFT-8. My X 
> configuration looks like this:

> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard1"
>   Driver  "kbd"
>   Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
>   Option "CoreKeyboard"
>   Option "XkbModel"   "pc105"
>   Option "XkbLayout"  "dk"
> EndSection

> In kcontrol - Regional & Accessibility - Keyboard Layout there is a box 
> called 
> "Enable keyboards layouts". This overrides the X settings. So if it works in 
> IceWM just disable it. That's what I did. And I have no problems with any of 
> those characters (áàéèíìóòöuúù€'") in Openoffice either.

I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and
disabled.  No difference.  The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed
in OOo, but work normally in all other applications.

I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop
Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not
change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either.

If anything, the Regional Keyboard setting make the problem worse,
affecting other applications too, so I disabled it again.

As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8.

Here's the output of  locale

LANG=
LC_CTYPE="POSIX"
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIME="POSIX"
LC_COLLATE="POSIX"
LC_MONETARY="POSIX"
LC_MESSAGES="POSIX"
LC_PAPER="POSIX"
LC_NAME="POSIX"
LC_ADDRESS="POSIX"
LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX"
LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX"
LC_ALL=

and locale -a

C
POSIX
en_GB
en_GB.iso885915
en_GB.utf8
en_US
en_US.iso885915
en_US.utf8

Maybe it's not an UTF-8 issue as Jerônimo suggested it might be, but I'm
baffled by this odd kb behaviour showing only in OOo under KDE.

Could you please show the output of locale and locale -a on your system?

Cheers, Dave.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources

[Richard Fish]

On 5/3/06, S. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So, I would have to go back to 6629. This one just needs a bit of
patching. I was looking for some help in that direction.


You may want to track this bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127618

This is probably why none of the 7xxx drivers are in stable yet.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Bo Andresen]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:13, Dave Jones wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 14:31:
> > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote:
> >>Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
> >>some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
> >>encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.
> >
> > What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I
> > have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have
> > experienced no issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on
> > my system (e.g. kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do
> > understand UTF-8 (e.g. kontact, konquerer, konsole..).
>
> This came out of my original question about having problems with typing
> accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3.
>
> The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to
> obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters
> into an OOo document.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> Driver  "kbd"
> Option  "AutoRepeat""500 30"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "logicdp"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
> EndSection
>
> Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into
> all other applications apart from OOo under KDE.
>
> OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue.

I still don't see that it has got anything to do with UFT-8. My X 
configuration looks like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard1"
Driver  "kbd"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbModel"   "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout"  "dk"
EndSection

In kcontrol - Regional & Accessibility - Keyboard Layout there is a box called 
"Enable keyboards layouts". This overrides the X settings. So if it works in 
IceWM just disable it. That's what I did. And I have no problems with any of 
those characters (áàéèíìóòöuúù€'") in Openoffice either.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 00:37 -0400, JimD wrote:
> Michael Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > What other style is there besides procedural?  
> 
> A much better way IMO is to separate the presentation from the code like 
> you can do with ASP.Net with Mono/MS.  ASP.Net makes web app development 
> *event* oriented.  You write event handlers to handle certain events 
> like a page loading or a button being clicked, just as you would do with 
> a GUI app, and you don't have to have all the markup spewed about in the 
> code.
> 
> I will never go back to that old style of coding again.  When I looked 
> at the SquirrelMail php I got the willies from how ugly it looked.  All 
> I wanted to do was fix up the the ugly compose form.  With an 
> event-driven web app, the code would have been separated and it would 
> have been real easy to make changes to.
> 
> Jim
> -- 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> JimD
> Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol

I know about event-driven programming (I wrote in VB for years before I
achieved the enlightenment of Linux), but I didn't know that it was
possible with PHP.  I use event-driven techniques in Gambas and qt.  I
always thought squirrelmail code was like that for security purposes...

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Dave Jones]

Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 14:31:

> On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote:

>>Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
>>some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
>>encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.

> What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have 
> been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no 
> issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. 
> kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. 
> kontact, konquerer, konsole..).

This came out of my original question about having problems with typing
accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3.

The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to
obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters
into an OOo document.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "AutoRepeat""500 30"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbModel"  "logicdp"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
EndSection

Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into
all other applications apart from OOo under KDE.

OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Christopher Fisk]

On Tue, 2 May 2006, Jorge Almeida wrote:


parent.sh
 #!/bin/bash
 
 /path/to/child.sh
 


It's just bash scripting, just tell bash to exec child.sh in the 
background.



/path/to/child.sh &


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Dave Jones]

Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 14:21:

 What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected,
 while all other applications work correctly under KDE.

>>> Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
>>> some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
>>> encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.

>> As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE.

>> Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I
>> can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1?

> Here goes the documentation about UTF-8 with Gentoo:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml

> Replace anything related to UTF-8 with ISO-8859-1 on your system.

Uh oh, looks like a major rework. Should keep me out of mischief!

>> Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5?

> I'm with KDE 3.5.2 and everything is working okay.

It's probably time I moved on to KDE 3.5.2 anyway. Thank you very much
for all your help, much appreciated!

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box

[Ronald V. Vazquez]

Hello list:

Thank you all very much for all your suggestions.

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Hello all:

I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box.
Perhaps others on the list are interested as well.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide

[Moshe Kaminsky]

* Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02/05/06 16:00]:
> parent.sh
>   #!/bin/bash
>   
>   /path/to/child.sh
>   
> 
> When parent.sh receives a TERM signal, I would like child.sh to receive
> TERM also, and then parent.sh receive TERM.
> The  part is why I can't use "exec /path/to/child.sh". Is 
> there some way to achieve this?

You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group. 
Something like this:

#!/bin/sh
trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM
echo "before"
( sleep 30; echo inside )
echo "after"

Note that you can also send the signal with the negative of the pid, and 
then it goes to the whole process group.

Moshe

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Bo Andresen]

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote:
> Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
> some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
> encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.

What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have 
been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no 
issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. 
kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. 
kontact, konquerer, konsole..).

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Jerônimo Backes]

Dave Jones wrote:

Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 00:04:

  

What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected,
while all other applications work correctly under KDE.
  


  

Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.



As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE.

Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I
can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1?

  


Here goes the documentation about UTF-8 with Gentoo:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml

Replace anything related to UTF-8 with ISO-8859-1 on your system.



Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5?

Cheers, Dave


I'm with KDE 3.5.2 and everything is working okay.

Cheers, Jerônimo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources

[Leopold Gouverneur]

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:09:49AM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Leopold Gouverneur wrote:
> > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:41:01PM -0700, Sean O'Rourke wrote:
> > > You need to put it in /etc/portage/package.provided.
> >
> > Puting it in /etc/portage does not work for me.
> 
> It needs to go in /etc/portage/profile/; see 'man portage':
> 
> /etc/portage/profile/
>   site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/
> 
> /etc/make.profile/
>   ...
>   package.provided
>   ...
> 
yes that works! thankx

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

[Dave Jones]

Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 00:04:

>> What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected,
>> while all other applications work correctly under KDE.

> Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use
> some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default
> encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts.

As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE.

Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I
can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1?

Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5?

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources

[Benno Schulenberg]

Leopold Gouverneur wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:41:01PM -0700, Sean O'Rourke wrote:
> > You need to put it in /etc/portage/package.provided.
>
> Puting it in /etc/portage does not work for me.

It needs to go in /etc/portage/profile/; see 'man portage':

/etc/portage/profile/
  site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/

/etc/make.profile/
  ...
  package.provided
  ...

Benno
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