Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota

2006-08-03 Thread Noack, Sebastian
> thats right.. but always been  this way... i can figure out was wrong
>
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> On 8/3/06, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thiago Lüttig wrote:
>
> > /dev/sda4   /home  ext3  defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2 
>
> Should not it be: "defaults,usrquota,grpquota"?
> At least in my fstab it is so, and I'm having no problems...
>
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Argh, it was an HTML-Mail. My doctor forbids me to deal with HTML-Mails. ;)

Btw isn't "defaults" unnecessary if other options are specified?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-03 Thread Meino Christian Cramer

...forgot one...:

http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146468

keep booting!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 20:58 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:20 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> > They're great devices - you can often
> > buy a multimeter (every geek should have one :) with a current clamp (or
> > transducer) thrown in.  That way you have no wiring, no inline plugs,
> > and you won't even have to turn the PC off to install it!
> 
> Dang. I have to kick myself for calling myself a Geek.

yeah, I have sore shins too...

> > Here's one that is just a current clamp [fluke.com.au]:
> > http://www.fluke.com.au/auen/products/Fluke+320.htm?catalog_name=FlukeAustralia
> > but you can buy a normal multimeter with the option too...
> 
> Hmm.. How does it work? Perhaps a google search or go through
> howstuffswork.com would help.

how does it work or how do you use it?  You use it by clipping the
"claws" around one wire that you're interested in...

um, I just came across a problem - it won't work with an AC power cord,
because you have active and neutral both going through the clamp in
opposite directions, hence they'll cancel each other out.  You need only
the active going through the clamp...  oh well, it was a nice idea.

But "how it works" (with AC) is something like this:  AC produces a
field around the wire as it "flows".  This field in turn will induce a
current in a wire placed close to it.  Loop a wire (transducer) around
another wire (AC current flow), and you can inference the change in
current in the original wire by measuring the current flow in the loop.

It doesn't work with DC, as DC doesn't create a field (at least, not
when it's steady.  When switching on and off a DC device, you'll still
get a change in current)

IANAE(lectrician), so this might be complete bunkum, but that's how I
remember it anyway.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-03 Thread Statux
Well, I currently have a system with both a PATA drive as well as a SATA
drive. SATA uses the whole SCSI subsystem which tends to cause things to
not always be in the same place from time to time, devicewise,
especially when you have USB mass storage peripherals elsewhere (like my
memcard reader). I ended up labelling my partitions/filesystems when I
created them so when my system boots, it finds what's where and then
things get mounted that way (much cleaner). The only thing I didn't
conquer was how to get the bootloader (lilo for me) to boot a label
instead of a device so I ended up leaving a boot partition on my PATA
disk to allow everything to start nicely and then go from there.

So, I guess from here, I too will ask my own question stemming from this
one: How do I get a bootloader (lilo preferably for me) to boot a device
which may not always be in the same place like a SCSI-ish disk?

-Statux

On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 06:18 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  I will change my system from ATA to SATA.
>  Is there somethng special to consider for this in beforehand?
>  (...before I will not be able anymore to post to this list a
>  cry of help ... ;) :O) )))
> 
>  Thank you very much in advance for any help!
>  mcc 
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[gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???

2006-08-03 Thread Meino Christian Cramer

Hi,

 I will change my system from ATA to SATA.
 Is there somethng special to consider for this in beforehand?
 (...before I will not be able anymore to post to this list a
 cry of help ... ;) :O) )))

 Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 mcc 
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[gentoo-user] udev.rules: Two "removeable" SATA-hds...how to map to /dev ???

2006-08-03 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 Trying to write some udev rules to map two identical (model wise)
 SATA-harddiscs to different entries in /dev/. got a question mark
 into my head:

 Both harddiscs are removeable and either the first or the second are
 inserted into my system. Both harddiscs are identical models and will
 have the same partitioning and formatting. Only the contents will differ.
 Currently they are "pure metal"... :)

 If inserted a /dev/sda is created

 I did a udevinfo -a -p /dev/sda and got different informations per
 bus type.

 Under BUS="scsi" there is a model name, which normally is used for
 entries of the udev.rules files.

 But: How can I distinguish both harddiscs?

 The entries under BUS="pci" do mention:
  looking at device '/devices/pci:00/:00:0f.0':
ID==":00:0f.0"
BUS=="pci"
DRIVER=="sata_via"
SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v1106d3149sv1043sd80EDbc01sc04i00"
SYSFS{local_cpus}=="3"
SYSFS{irq}=="18"
SYSFS{class}=="0x010400"
SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x80ed"
SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x1043"
SYSFS{device}=="0x3149"
SYSFS{vendor}=="0x1106"

 ...but this is another bus type for the same entry

 How can I identify both harddiscs individually ?

 Thank you very much for any help in advance !
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:20 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:45 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote:
> > > Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:
> 
> > > Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you 
> > > can merely put it around the power cord and make all sorts of power
> > 
> > The item I want to test is back home. I'm in the US for a few months
> > only, so a 240V one is needed.
> 
> so what's wrong with the clamp? 

Nothing. I just didn't know about them.

> They're great devices - you can often
> buy a multimeter (every geek should have one :) with a current clamp (or
> transducer) thrown in.  That way you have no wiring, no inline plugs,
> and you won't even have to turn the PC off to install it!

Dang. I have to kick myself for calling myself a Geek.

> Here's one that is just a current clamp [fluke.com.au]:
> http://www.fluke.com.au/auen/products/Fluke+320.htm?catalog_name=FlukeAustralia
> but you can buy a normal multimeter with the option too...

Hmm.. How does it work? Perhaps a google search or go through
howstuffswork.com would help.

> This way, it shouldn't matter what the Voltage is (240V, 120V,
> 3.141592653589793V) you just adjust the switch on the meter.
Cool. Wonder how much it is. Fluke stuffs aren't exactly cheap

Thanks for the heads up/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:45 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote:
> > Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:

> > Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you 
> > can merely put it around the power cord and make all sorts of power
> 
> The item I want to test is back home. I'm in the US for a few months
> only, so a 240V one is needed.

so what's wrong with the clamp? They're great devices - you can often
buy a multimeter (every geek should have one :) with a current clamp (or
transducer) thrown in.  That way you have no wiring, no inline plugs,
and you won't even have to turn the PC off to install it!

Here's one that is just a current clamp [fluke.com.au]:
http://www.fluke.com.au/auen/products/Fluke+320.htm?catalog_name=FlukeAustralia
but you can buy a normal multimeter with the option too...

This way, it shouldn't matter what the Voltage is (240V, 120V,
3.141592653589793V) you just adjust the switch on the meter.

Some of the more expensive products have waveform capture and
datalogging features too.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread Randy Barlow

Michael Crute wrote:

Right, this is exactly what I want to do but can I do it without
seriously screwing up the disk? i.e. can I change the partition type
without screwing up the existing partitions?


As long as you only change and format the NTFS partition you should be 
fine (you don't have any data on there that you need that isn't backed 
up, right?)


R

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 2006

2006-08-03 Thread sdoma
Booting the life-CD and starting the Gentoo-installer, there is no
possibility to set the date.

Regards
Frank


On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:01 -0400, Stephen wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:28, frank wrote:
> 
> > Booting from the Gentoo liveCD 2006 puts my clock back for 2 hours. 
> 
> Did you set the date? You need to set that with the date command. 
> 
> As mentioned in the handbook. 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5#doc_chap1
> 
> Stephen

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Re: [gentoo-user] minicom && usb-serrial cable config

2006-08-03 Thread Sarpy Sam

On 8/3/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I recently got an HP 8000 laptop with any 9-pin serial ports.
I got a Entrega USB-to-serail cable.

lsusb sees the device:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1645:8003 Entrega [hex]
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :


When I compile the Entrega usb driver into the kernel is shows
 up in dmesg:
drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for
Xircom / Entrega PGS - (prerenumeration)


and I can go to /dev/bus/usb/002/
and see with ls:
001  003

But when I go to minicom and go to set the serial port config,
I do not know how to designate the port:
With an ordinary (16550) serial port it would be something like:
/dev/ttyS1   or/dev/ttyS0

What would it be with this Entrega device?

I also tried with the driver configured as a loadable
model, but with no success.


Any ideas?

My usb to serial cable gets recognized as /dev/ttyUSB1

Hope that helps.

Kirby
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 20:10 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Well, the USA has the same coming in too.  We have 220v to 240v coming
> >> in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff.
> >
> > No, we don't.  We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and
> > 240V appliances work by using the two hot wires that are 180 degrees
> > out of phase with each other.
> >
> > Other countries actually have 240V between the hot and neutral wires,
> > regardless of how many hot wires actually come in.

> But I can plug their 220v stuff in here too.  I have seen the plugs
> here, Lowes I think.  They are funny looking though. 

That's mainly because thoe 'stuffs' has built in inverters/step up/down
etc.

> 
> That said, having it 220 or 240v is more efficient.  That is why they
> distribute power at higher voltages, sometimes as high as 500Kv.

That is actually just so that it won't lose as much when it gets to it's
destination. That's "distribution" voltage to the substations which then
downsteps it to then be distributed to households etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Dale
Richard Fish wrote:
> On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well, the USA has the same coming in too.  We have 220v to 240v coming
>> in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff.
>
> No, we don't.  We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and
> 240V appliances work by using the two hot wires that are 180 degrees
> out of phase with each other.
>
> Other countries actually have 240V between the hot and neutral wires,
> regardless of how many hot wires actually come in.
>
> -Richard

But I can plug their 220v stuff in here too.  I have seen the plugs
here, Lowes I think.  They are funny looking though. 

That said, having it 220 or 240v is more efficient.  That is why they
distribute power at higher voltages, sometimes as high as 500Kv.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] minicom && usb-serrial cable config

2006-08-03 Thread James
Hello,

I recently got an HP 8000 laptop with any 9-pin serial ports.
I got a Entrega USB-to-serail cable.

lsusb sees the device:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1645:8003 Entrega [hex]
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :


When I compile the Entrega usb driver into the kernel is shows
 up in dmesg: 
drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for
Xircom / Entrega PGS - (prerenumeration)


and I can go to /dev/bus/usb/002/
and see with ls:
001  003

But when I go to minicom and go to set the serial port config,
I do not know how to designate the port:
With an ordinary (16550) serial port it would be something like:
/dev/ttyS1   or/dev/ttyS0

What would it be with this Entrega device?

I also tried with the driver configured as a loadable
model, but with no success.


Any ideas?


James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/3/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, the USA has the same coming in too.  We have 220v to 240v coming
in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff.


No, we don't.  We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and
240V appliances work by using the two hot wires that are 180 degrees
out of phase with each other.

Other countries actually have 240V between the hot and neutral wires,
regardless of how many hot wires actually come in.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] sqsh - Anyone with experience?

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:09 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> I'm looking for some pointers in using sqsh.
> The website - sqsh.org seems to be down.
> I can't seem to locate a mailing list.
> 
> It works, but I would just like to know if I can get it to execute a
> script from a file.
> 
> I know it has the option "sqsh -i" which is suppsoed to do that, but try
> as I might, itjust doesn't give me any output.
> 

seems like I need to terminate the script with a ";"

eg:
cat /tmp/p.sql
select
* 
from tablename()
;

Sorry for the noise
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[gentoo-user] [OT] sqsh - Anyone with experience?

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm looking for some pointers in using sqsh.
The website - sqsh.org seems to be down.
I can't seem to locate a mailing list.

It works, but I would just like to know if I can get it to execute a
script from a file.

I know it has the option "sqsh -i" which is suppsoed to do that, but try
as I might, itjust doesn't give me any output.

I've tried to use sqsh -C < script.sql and still nothing.

Appreciate any help

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-03 Thread Toby Cubitt
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:43:26AM +0300, Mantas Povilaitis wrote:
> On 8/3/06, Pete Pardoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> ><=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> >
> >I have tried emerge --clean  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9   and emerge --prune
> >x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there.
> 
> it is written <= before package name, so 6.8 counts too (6.8<6.9)

Your problem is that the modular xorg is now in the stable tree, so
portage is trying to upgrade to the modular xorg when you do an emerge
world (if you look further down the list of packages that emerge world
is trying to install, you should see xorg-x11-7.0). The dependencies
pulled in by modular xorg have to be installed before xorg-x11 itself
can be upgraded, but they are blocked by your currently installed,
non-modular xorg-x11-6.8.

There are two solutions: unmerge the non-modular xorg-x11-6.8, and
then merge the modular xorg-x11-7.0 (following the migration guide on
www.gentoo.org). But you seem to have already tried this.

The second solution is mask modular xorg by adding the line

>x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8

to /etc/portage/package.mask (including the ">", obviously). Then
portage won't try to upgrade xorg, it won't pull in all those
dependencies that block on your version of xorg, and portage should
stop complaining.

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Pete Pardoe wrote:
> I tried to move to moidular X but it failed so I roled everything back
> but I
> now have a problem that has me stumped.  

You filed a bug for the failure, right? Monolithic X won't be around
forever ...

> When I do an emerge -puD world
> there are a whole slew of packages that are blocked by a non existant
> package.  I have xorg-x11 6.8.2-r8 installed not 6.9 but get the following
> in front of all the blocked packages.  How do I convince the system that it
> doesn't have this package installed.
> 
> <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> 
> I have tried emerge --clean  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9   and emerge --prune
> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there.
> I have done a revdep-rebuild and an emerge --newuse --update --deep world
> and nothing has fixed it.

You may not realize "<=" means "less than or equal to," so your 6.8
installation would qualify.

If you want Gentoo to stop asking you to upgrade to the current stable
modular X every time you 'emerge world' then you may want to add
'>=x11-base/xorg-x11-7' to /etc/portage/package.mask.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Dale
Mike Williams wrote:
> On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote:
>   
>> The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply
>> into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current
>> (amps) thus by the nature of it being 240 VAC, you already know
>> it is a power hog.
>> 
>
> Now, I'm not electrical engineer, but I know my way around a fuse board and 
> electricity having fitted out both our new offices for power, network, and 
> some walls.
>
> In the UK, and most (if not all) of Europe, Africa, and Asia too, run on 
> about 
> 240 volts, 230 +-10% I think now.
> Pretty much the whole world, except the Americas.
>
>   

Well, the USA has the same coming in too.  We have 220v to 240v coming
in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. 

If you are using transformers to reduce it from 220v to 110v, that will
waste some energy right there.  Transformers are not real efficient.  If
you touch it and it is warm, that is what you are wasting.  That will
also make whatever you are cooling with work harder too.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-03 Thread Mantas Povilaitis

On 8/3/06, Pete Pardoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


<=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking

I have tried emerge --clean  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9   and emerge --prune
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there.


it is written <= before package name, so 6.8 counts too (6.8<6.9)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread Michael Crute

On 8/3/06, dg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thursday 03 August 2006 23:52, Michael Crute wrote:
> I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
> anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
> gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
> would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
> it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
> disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
> right now.
>
> The partition structure looks like this:
> hda1 -> NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
> hda2 -> Swap
> hda3 -> Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)
>
> -Mike
>

In addition to what others already suggested, it also would make sense to
actually change the partition type in the partition table:
fdisk /dev/hda
then press "t" and type partition number (1 in your case), then 83 (Linux
Native) when asked for partition type.


Right, this is exactly what I want to do but can I do it without
seriously screwing up the disk? i.e. can I change the partition type
without screwing up the existing partitions?

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge packages for two python versions?

2006-08-03 Thread Bryan Ãstergaard
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:16:13PM -0500, Edward Muller wrote:
> Is it possible to emerge python library packages (like egenix-mx-base, 
> psycopg, etc, etc, etc) for multiple versions of python (python2.3 and 
> python2.4 for instance)?
> 
> If so, how?
> 
Not currently possible. We have an experimental version of
distutils.eclass allowing this but we're being very careful about
testing this properly before considering any changes to the portage
tree.

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[gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-03 Thread Pete Pardoe
HiI tried to move to moidular X but it
failed so I roled everything back but I now have a problem that has me
stumped.  When I do an emerge -puD world there are a whole slew of
packages that are blocked by a non existant package.  I have xorg-x11
6.8.2-r8 installed not 6.9 but get the following in front of all the
blocked packages.  How do I convince the system that it doesn't have
this package installed.<=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
I have tried emerge --clean  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9   and emerge
--prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is
not there.  I have done a revdep-rebuild and an emerge --newuse
--update --deep world and nothing has fixed it.
Help!-- Pete Pardoe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread dg
On Thursday 03 August 2006 23:52, Michael Crute wrote:
> I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
> anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
> gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
> would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
> it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
> disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
> right now.
>
> The partition structure looks like this:
> hda1 -> NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
> hda2 -> Swap
> hda3 -> Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)
>
> -Mike
>
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In addition to what others already suggested, it also would make sense to 
actually change the partition type in the partition table:
fdisk /dev/hda
then press "t" and type partition number (1 in your case), then 83 (Linux 
Native) when asked for partition type.

BR,
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[gentoo-user] Emerge packages for two python versions?

2006-08-03 Thread Edward Muller
Is it possible to emerge python library packages (like egenix-mx-base, 
psycopg, etc, etc, etc) for multiple versions of python (python2.3 and 
python2.4 for instance)?

If so, how?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:25:41 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> I've seen the Kill-A-Watt
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US
> Version.
> 
> I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one?

I have a Brennenstuhl PM230, which seems to do the same sort of thing on
240V. I think I got it from Maplins - a UK electronic component/gadget
retailer - http://www.maplin.co.uk. They don't appear to have in on their
site now, but here's something similar

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1&criteria=power%20meter&ModuleNo=38343&doy=3m8

In fact, it looks almost identical to the Kill-A-Watt.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread Joe Peterson
No problem!

Just reformat /dev/hda1.  Doing this will not touch the other
partitions.  Of course, if you are booting off of /dev/hda1 now, this is
problematic...

See the man page for mkfs for more info.  Something like:

mkfs -t ext2 -m1 /dev/hda1

-Joe


Michael Crute wrote:
> I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
> anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
> gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
> would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
> it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
> disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
> right now.
> 
> The partition structure looks like this:
> hda1 -> NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
> hda2 -> Swap
> hda3 -> Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)
> 
> -Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:52 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
> I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
> anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
> gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
> would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
> it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
> disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
> right now.
> 
> The partition structure looks like this:
> hda1 -> NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
> hda2 -> Swap
> hda3 -> Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)
> 
simple.

mkft.etx3 /dev/hda1

done.

it won;t affect anything. 

unless you want to have evrything as 1 big partition.

eg: had1 - linux
hda2 - swap

then u have more work .


> -Mike
> 
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> 
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[gentoo-user] Change Partition Type

2006-08-03 Thread Michael Crute

I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I
anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for
gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and
would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is
it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the
disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine
right now.

The partition structure looks like this:
hda1 -> NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3)
hda2 -> Swap
hda3 -> Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed)

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:04 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm not a US resident and I live in a Country where the
> > power comes in at 240V.
> >
> >
> 
> I live in a cowntry where energy comes at 240V (Brazil), but all
> computers, printers and most eletronic devices are wired to a voltage
> stabilizer that reduces the risk of damage by lightning and other
> voltage peaks. This stabilizers also transform 240 to 120V AC, so, our
> energy is 240V but almost ALL devices run switched to 120V.


I'm sorry but what's the difference between running it at 120V or 240V?
(besides the stabilizer)
BTW, my PC equipment is running off an APS UPS that does power surges
and I presume stabilizer as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Ralph Seichter
billyd wrote:

> His ultimate suggestion, which I followed, was to go out to your
> favorite computer store, purchase a NIC card (about $20 US) off the
> shelf, install it in your computer, and disable the on-board Marvell
> Yukon controller in the BIOS.

A valid suggestion, of course. I would probably use a different network
controller in a server setup, but as this is a workstation and already
quite crammed with PCI cards, I'd rather not add more hardware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Joseph
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:47 -0500, billyd wrote:
> On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:36, you wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > Bill, just load "forcedeth" and it is going to work just fine.
> > modprobe forcedeth
> >
> > much cheaper than paying extra $20.00 :-)
> 
> Thanks, Joseph, for that info.  When I had my problem, I had not come across 
> that as a possible solution.  I was experimenting with Ubuntu/Kubuntu at the 
> time and couldn't find a solution on their forums.  I also had not started my 
> experimentation with Gentoo at that time.  I have since built another system 
> with a newer ASUS mobo.  It also has a Marvell Yukon controller, although it 
> is a newer version.  I have not had the same problem with it that I had with 
> the A8V-Deluxe.  I would have preferred not to buy  a NIC, but it was a 
> simple solution for me and it worked.

I don't have A8V-Deluxe but just plain A8V with the same controller
Marvell 88E8001 and it worked for me see my posting:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-360921-highlight-forcedeth.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Ralph Seichter
Richard Fish wrote:

> IIRC, eth0 on the live CD can be a IEEE1394 ethernet bridge, if you
> have a firewire port in the PC. The UNSPEC and 'weird' hardware
> address are indicative of this.

Good timing of yours, I just wanted to boast a bit about getting to the
bottom of the problem myself (after I leaving the machine alone for two
hours to get a fresh mental start on things). ;-)

It seems that booting from the "Minimal" CD indeed maps two FireWire
devices first. The mainboard's IEEE 1394 becomes attached to eth0, and
eth1 is the FireWire port of a SB Audigy card. The network controller is
available as eth2 after loading the modules, which I didn't expect. %-P

I have since installed Gentoo 2006.0, compiled my own kernel and ten
minutes ago the machine properly booted for the first time with the
Yukon controller as eth0. Hooray! I've started "emerge --update --deep
world", and when it is finished, I'll try to figure out exactly which
modules can be used to access the network controller (sk98lin, skge or
sky2).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > I know this is VERY OT. I have a Gentoo Server running at Home
> 24/7 and
> > there's a possiblity that it's really eating up my energy bill.
>
> > I've seen the Kill-A-Watt
> > http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US
> > Version.
>
> > I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to
> get one?
>
> > The Server is an old DELL PowerEdge 4300 w/ 2x350Mhz Procs and
> 1GB Mem
>

> If you have an electrician, or are reasonably knowledgable with
> electricity, then you can split off one of the "hot legs" run
> it thru your 120VAC  power meter an see how much juice (energy)
> you are using.

I'm not going that path. Thanks anyway for the Howto.
>
> Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you
> can merely put it around the power cord and make all sorts of power

The item I want to test is back home. I'm in the US for a few months
only, so a 240V one is needed.

> The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply
> into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current

Unfortunately, I'm not a US resident and I live in a Country where the
power comes in at 240V.

> energy savings in a year or so. Big power supplies also throw off
> lots of heat, so if you live somewhere hot, it's a double wammie.

Yeah.. Asian Country. HOT throughout the year.



I live in a cowntry where energy comes at 240V (Brazil), but all
computers, printers and most eletronic devices are wired to a voltage
stabilizer that reduces the risk of damage by lightning and other
voltage peaks. This stabilizers also transform 240 to 120V AC, so, our
energy is 240V but almost ALL devices run switched to 120V.

So, my advice is: get a stabilizer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation

2006-08-03 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 03. Aug 2006, 00:48:25 +0200 schrieb Hemmann, Volker Armin:
> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 23:37, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 02. Aug 2006, 00:04:52 +0200 schrieb Hemmann, Volker Armin:
> > > On Monday 31 July 2006 21:07, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
> > > >   # scantv
> > > >   [...]
> > > >   vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi]
> > > >   open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument
> > > >
> > > >   # dd if=/dev/vbi bs=8 count=1 | od -x
> > > >   1+0 records in
> > >
> > > and what are the rights on /dev/vbi / /dev/vbi0 ?
> > > And where does it point (I bet, it is just a symlink ;) )
> >
> > It definitely is; I created it myself.
> 
> it is a symlink? and does it point to the right device?
> I never created anything - I let udev do it for me... 

Another time to prevent any further link, symlink or access
rights discussion:

  $ su -
  Password:
  # ls -la /dev/v4l/vbi0
  crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224  1. Aug 19:50 /dev/v4l/vbi0
  # mknod /tmp/myvbi c 81 224
  # chmod a+rwx /tmp/myvbi
  # ls -la /tmp/myvbi
  crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 81, 224  3. Aug 20:36 /tmp/myvbi
  # scantv -n PAL -f europe-west -C /tmp/myvbi
  [...]
  vbi: open failed [/tmp/myvbi]
  open /tmp/myvbi: Invalid argument
  # dd if=/tmp/myvbi bs=8 count=1 2>/dev/null | wc -c
  8
  #

AleVT works without complaint.

Bertram


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Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Jarry

Ow Mun Heng wrote:


You're referring to the Energy Check 3000 or the Energy Monitor 3000?


I'm using Energy monitor 3000...


(What's the difference? I'm printing the manual to do a comparison
study)


I don't know, there was only EnergyMonitor3000 on stock, when
I went shopping so I bought it. But it has larger display! :-)
I'm very satisfied with it. I was really surprised,
how much juice are some of my devices eating...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread billyd
On Thursday 03 August 2006 07:51, Ralph Seichter wrote:
> I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal
> installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe
> mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network
> controller as "Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet",
> and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card
> up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10).
>
> Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use "modprobe sk98lin",
> "modprobe skge" and "modprobe sky2" after booting. I tried all three
> variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using "net-setup
> et0", ifconfig shows "Link encap:UNSPEC" and a weird hardware address.
> Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and "RX bytes"
> for eht0 always remains zero.
>
> Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help.
>
> --
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> Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter
I too have an A8V-Deluxe and have had problems with various distros (Ubuntu, 
Kubuntu, and others) trying to get the Marvell Yukon controller working.

About a year ago while doing some google searches trying to resolve this same 
problem, I found an article some guy wrote about the problem.  I'm sorry but 
I don't have that info or the web site anymore.  He said  the problem was 
that ASUS had done something to the chip that caused many linux distros to be 
unable to probe what he called its PID.  His description was too technical 
for me.  His ultimate suggestion, which I followed, was to go out to your 
favorite computer store, purchase a NIC card (about $20 US) off the shelf, 
install it in your computer, and disable the on-board Marvell Yukon 
controller in the BIOS.

This may not be the solution you want.  I did it and have never had another 
problem installing any distro, including Gentoo, and getting my network up 
and running.

Good luck!

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[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Authentication Issues

2006-08-03 Thread Kris Kerwin
Problem fixed.

/etc/fstab had the root file system mounted with the users option, which 
disabled the requisite setuid bit on the /bin/su executable, thereby 
preventing me from su'ing to root from a non-root user. This was despite the 
fact that the non-root user was in the wheel group.

Thanks again for your help.

Kris Kerwin

On Wednesday 02 August 2006 01:10, Kris Kerwin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just performed a new Gentoo install, and am having a couple of issues
> regarding authentication. I think that the problem is something to do with
> PAM/Shadow. (No ... it's not the blocking issue between pam-login and
> shadow).
>
> I run a single user system with just users for myself (username: kris) and
> root. I cannot su into the root account from my personal account. I have
> added kris to the group wheel using the `gpasswd -a kris wheel', but still
> cannot su. I verified that kris is in the wheel group by logging in and
> trying the `groups' command.
>
> Then, I tried editing `/etc/pam.d/su' and commenting out the line `auth
> required pam_wheel.so use_uid', as the comment above it states that doing
> so will allow users who are not in the wheel group to su. Still, no joy.
> Other comments in that file state that you may give explicit rights to
> specific users by creating the file `/etc/security/suauth.allow' with each
> allowed user on their own line. Still, no joy.
>
> On a (possibly) related note: while trying to switch from a graphical login
> to a virtual console to work on some of these problems, I found that the
> usual Ctrl-Alt-F* incantation did not work. The only way to switch to a
> virtual console was to right click on the desktop and go through the
> `Switch User' menu function on KDE. Further, when switching back to the
> graphical login from the console, I found that the screensaver had come on
> and had locked the desktop (though this was disabled within KDE's
> configuration). The big problem, however, came when I could not unlock the
> screensaver with my password.
>
> Also, kris' attempts to change his passwd are met with the error:
> `Authentication token manipulation error'.
>
> Thanks in advance for all of your help. System information is appended
> below.
>
> Kris Kerwin
>
>
>
> == System Info ==
>
> I run `pam-0.78-r3 USE=berkdb' and `shadow-4.0.15-r2 USE=nls pam' on the
> following system:
>
> Portage 2.1-r1 (!/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6,
> glibc-2.3.6-r4, 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 i686)
> =
> System uname: 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
> Gentoo Base System version 1.6.15
> app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present]
> dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r1
> dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
> dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]
> dev-util/confcache:  [Not Present]
> sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
> sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
> sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
> sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
> sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3
> sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
> virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> AUTOCLEAN="yes"
> CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
> /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
> /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/
> /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/
> /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/gconf
> /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe"
> DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> FEATURES="autoconfig ccache cvs distlocks fixpackages metadata-transfer
> notitles sandbox sfperms strict userpriv"
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org
> http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo";
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
> PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
> --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
> --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local'
> --exclude='/packages'" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/tmp/build"
> PORTDIR="/usr/target/ports"
> SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> USE="x86 X acpi adns aim alsa apache2 apm arts artswrappersuid asm
> audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cddb cdparanoia cli crypt cups dga
> divx4linux dlloader doc dri dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd
> ethereal f77 font-server foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer
> gtk gtk2 heimdal icq imlib ipv6 isdnlog jabber java javascript jikes
> joystick jpeg kde kerberos koffice-plugin libg++ libwww mad mikmod mime
> motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn ncurses nls nocd nptl offensive ogg opengl oscar
> oss pam pcre pda pdflib perl png posix pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime
> readline real reflection sdl session smime spell spl sse ssl svg tcpd
> truetype truetype-fonts ty

Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 19:41 +0200, Jarry wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one?
> 
> I'm using this one (all in one line without spaces):
> 
> http://www1.uk.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/?~template=pcat_product_details_document&object_guid=0A2FC03E2FBEFDFFE1000A01022B&master_guid=&master_typ=&no_brotkrumennavi=&p_load_area=1114014&p_artikelbilder_mode=Ein&p_sortopt=object_description&page=1&p_catalog_max_results=10&cachedetail=

Doesn't work :-(

> If the link does not work, go to conrad.com and search
> for "energy monitor".

Many thanks for the link.
You're referring to the Energy Check 3000 or the Energy Monitor 3000?
(What's the difference? I'm printing the manual to do a comparison
study)

The Check is 19.95 EUR wherelse the monitor is 30.99 EUR (and 39.99 EUR
when I go to the  international page, for some reason)

Which one do you have and it works well I suppose.

Thanks again.
(I've scoured the Net for a few days looking for this one with a
combination of Kill-a-watt + europe and Kill-a-watt + 240V and a variety
of others w/o luck)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota

2006-08-03 Thread Thiago Lüttig
I think thats right.. but always been  this way... i can figure out was wrongOn 8/3/06, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thiago Lüttig wrote:> /dev/sda4   /home  ext3  defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota

2006-08-03 Thread Jarry

Thiago Lüttig wrote:


/dev/sda4   /home  ext3  defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2


Should not it be: "defaults,usrquota,grpquota"?
At least in my fstab it is so, and I'm having no problems...

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Jarry

Ow Mun Heng wrote:


I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one?


I'm using this one (all in one line without spaces):

http://www1.uk.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/?~template=pcat_product_details_document&object_guid=0A2FC03E2FBEFDFFE1000A01022B&master_guid=&master_typ=&no_brotkrumennavi=&p_load_area=1114014&p_artikelbilder_mode=Ein&p_sortopt=object_description&page=1&p_catalog_max_results=10&cachedetail=

If the link does not work, go to conrad.com and search
for "energy monitor".

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[gentoo-user] Problem with quota

2006-08-03 Thread Thiago Lüttig
Hi folks, i have an gentoo server on my network, I export the /home and its have quota enabled. But since yesterday, when the quota service are enabled, none user can anter any file on the remote filesystem, the message  get is "disk quota exceeded"
I cant find any message on logs and when i start the quota service, it take a while scanning the quotas on the disk containing the /homewhat could be happening ??here is a copy of my fstab.
/dev/sda4   /home   ext3    defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago LüttigMSN: 
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[gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage

2006-08-03 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Hi Guys,

I know this is VERY OT. I have a Gentoo Server running at Home 24/7 and
there's a possiblity that it's really eating up my energy bill.

I've seen the Kill-A-Watt
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US
Version.

I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one?

The Server is an old DELL PowerEdge 4300 w/ 2x350Mhz Procs and 1GB Mem


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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Joseph
modprobe forcedeth

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#Joseph

On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 14:51 +0200, Ralph Seichter wrote:
> I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal
> installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe
> mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network
> controller as "Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet",
> and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card
> up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10).
> 
> Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use "modprobe sk98lin",
> "modprobe skge" and "modprobe sky2" after booting. I tried all three
> variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using "net-setup
> et0", ifconfig shows "Link encap:UNSPEC" and a weird hardware address.
> Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and "RX bytes"
> for eht0 always remains zero.
> 
> Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help.
> 
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely
> Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/3/06, Ralph Seichter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using "net-setup
et0", ifconfig shows "Link encap:UNSPEC" and a weird hardware address.


IIRC, eth0 on the live CD can be a IEEE1394 ethernet bridge, if you
have a firewire port in the PC.  The UNSPEC and 'weird' hardware
address are indicative of this.

Do you get an eth1 after loading those 3 modules?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?

2006-08-03 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Jueves, 3 de Agosto de 2006 08:30, Justin R Findlay escribió:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:05:52AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer?
>
> Yes.  Otherwise I'd think you were discriminataing against me and I'd
> have to leave gentoo for another distro with loud exclamations of
> disgust.
>
> > I don't think that this is the right way to go.
>
> Sometimes you have to go left for variety and adventure. (:
>
>
> Justin

Gentoo is about knowing what is going underneath a silly desktop interface, 
and this is -as I already stated- a VERY IMPORTANT issue related to the 
system core. Gentoo is built around a compiler and all the things that are 
tied to the profile. You can even raise your version of debian or mandrake 
that easy, and they are binary distros.

You obviously, dont have any will to find a solution, but just create 
controversy. And, I did not want to say it this way, but, you really that 
someone cares about you having 

> to leave gentoo for another distro with loud exclamations of
> disgust.
?

Scream is what children do when they are not gifted with an automatic solution 
to their problems. Men and women, better try to learn something and find a 
way in all areas of life, it is not that hard to look when a profile is 
updated and make a symlink. Plus portage, as some people already told you, 
will tell you when you really need to update that profile.

We could tell the reverse story about you discriminating all of us and gifting 
the lazy ones with priviledges, but I will not do it, cause it is a childish 
arguement that I will not go into.

Happy screaming.

Jesús.

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AW: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Noack, Sebastian
> I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal
> installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe
> mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network
> controller as "Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet",
> and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card
> up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10).
> 
> Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use "modprobe sk98lin",
> "modprobe skge" and "modprobe sky2" after booting. I tried all three
> variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using "net-setup
> et0", ifconfig shows "Link encap:UNSPEC" and a weird hardware address.
> Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and "RX bytes"
> for eht0 always remains zero.
> 
> Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help.
> 
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely
> Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter

Hi,

it seems to be a problem with the driver on the Gentoo LiveCD. I would propose 
to try an other LiveCD for example Knoppix or if you still have any other Linux 
distribution (you mentioned OpenSUSE) on this machine, where the network 
interface works boot it and use it to install Gentoo.

And don't forget to file a bug in the Gentoo bugzilla if it points out that it 
is indeed a problem with the driver on the Gentoo LiveCD. :)

Best Regards
Sebastian Noack

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[gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried "modprobe sk98lin" et al

2006-08-03 Thread Ralph Seichter
I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal
installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe
mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network
controller as "Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet",
and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card
up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10).

Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use "modprobe sk98lin",
"modprobe skge" and "modprobe sky2" after booting. I tried all three
variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using "net-setup
et0", ifconfig shows "Link encap:UNSPEC" and a weird hardware address.
Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and "RX bytes"
for eht0 always remains zero.

Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey

2006-08-03 Thread Jules Colding
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 09:44 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:48:48 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
> 
> > Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge
> > offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first
> > emerge run??
> 
> It could be that neither seamonkey nor a dependent package is in your
> world file. Does "emerge --depclean -p" offer to remove it? 

Yes, it does.

> If so, you
> need to add it to world with "emerge -n seamonkey", which will also
> update it for you.

OK, thanks.
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey

2006-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:48:48 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:

> Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge
> offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first
> emerge run??

It could be that neither seamonkey nor a dependent package is in your
world file. Does "emerge --depclean -p" offer to remove it? If so, you
need to add it to world with "emerge -n seamonkey", which will also
update it for you.


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AW: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde

2006-08-03 Thread Noack, Sebastian
> You shouldn't need to, OOo detects which desktop it is running on and
> uses the appropriate icon set. There is an environment variable you
can
> use to force the choice, but you only need that if running an
unsupported
> desktop.
> 
> 
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That sounds good. Thanks.

Regards
Sebastian

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[gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey

2006-08-03 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

Today I executed my daily 'eix-sync -v'. At the end I got this:

# eix-sync output start 
.

.
 * Running update-eix
Reading Portage settings ..
Building database (/var/cache/eix) from scratch ..
[0] /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata)
 Reading 100%
Applying masks ..
Database contains 11248 packages in 148 categories.
Diffing databases (11247 - 11248 packages)
[N] == app-arch/p7zip (4.42): Port of 7-Zip archiver for Unix
[N] == games-mud/tintin (1.96.1): (T)he k(I)cki(N) (T)ickin d(I)kumud clie(N)t
[N] == sys-block/di (4.5): Disk Information Utility
[U] == www-client/seamonkey (1.0.3): Mozilla Application Suite - web browser, 
email, HTML editor, IRC
[N] == x11-apps/xprop (1.0.1): X.Org xprop application
[N] >> app-emulation/libvirt (none): C toolkit to manipulate virtual machines
# eix-sync output end 

Seamonkey is set to be updated as you can see. So I started emerge:

# emerge output start 
omc-2 ~ # emerge -vauDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /
!!! Packages for the following atoms are either all
!!! masked or don't exist:
dev-util/valgrind

... done!

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Nothing to merge; would you like to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] No
# emerge output end 

No offer to update seamonkey? Then I tried:

# emerge output start 
omc-2 ~ # emerge -va seamonkey

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] www-client/seamonkey-1.0.3 [1.0.2] USE="crypt gnome ipv6 -debug 
-java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail 
-moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,022 kB

Total size of downloads: 35,022 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
# emerge output end 

Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge
offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first
emerge run??

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde

2006-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:24:25 +0200, Noack, Sebastian wrote:

> ut even if office/openoffice-bin have kde-support, how would I tell it
> to use kdelibs instead of gtk+? Because of both libraries are present on
> my system.

You shouldn't need to, OOo detects which desktop it is running on and
uses the appropriate icon set. There is an environment variable you can
use to force the choice, but you only need that if running an unsupported
desktop.


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AW: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde

2006-08-03 Thread Noack, Sebastian
> > Hi,
> >
> > does somebody know if app-office/openoffice-bin supports native look
> > and feel for kde? Or would I have to emerge app-office/openoffice
> > with KDE-useflag?
> 
> The icons, to me, look KDE-ish.

Yeah, that is what I probably mean. I have seen OpenOffice on my mum's
notebook on which runs kubunto and the look of OpenOffice was really
close to the look of each other kde-app. But I wasn't sure if
app-office/openoffice-bin on Gentoo supports that also or if I would
have to compile app-office/openoffice with the kde-useflag, therefore.

But even if office/openoffice-bin have kde-support, how would I tell it
to use kdelibs instead of gtk+? Because of both libraries are present on
my system.

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde

2006-08-03 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:14, Noack, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does somebody know if app-office/openoffice-bin supports native look
> and feel for kde? Or would I have to emerge app-office/openoffice
> with KDE-useflag?

The icons, to me, look KDE-ish.

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