[gentoo-user] Re: Any luck with the postfix upgrade?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-02-25, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, apparently it's time for me to upgrade like so:
>
> mail-mta/postfix-2.3.6 [2.2.10]
>
> Has anyone else made this upgrade?

Yup.

> How did it go?

OK, though I somehow forgot to merge my settings into the new
.cf files on one machine.  It ran with the out-of-box config
for a few days (not using a relayhost) -- which worked fine
until I tried to send mail to a destination that didn't accept
mail from dynamic IP addresses.

> Anything to watch out for?

I think the config file syntax for database files has changed a
little bit.  IIRC, in the config file I had to prepend "hash:"
onto a file's path name to make the new postfix happy.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[»Q«]

In ,
Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some
> > branding issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use
> > Debian's Iceweasel name.  
> 
> I agree.  It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
> development name.

I don't seen anything about it at bugs.gentoo.org;  you could file a
bug.  I'm not sure anyone would be motivated to patch it, though.  As
it is now, (well, AIUI) the USE flag just controls the
--enable-official-branding switch for compiling and the "Bon Echo" you
see is just an artifact of the way Mozilla ships its source code.

I think something other than "Iceweasel" would be preferable,
since Debian and GNU both have Iceweasel projects.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any luck with the postfix upgrade?

[Daniel Iliev]

Grant wrote:
> Hello, apparently it's time for me to upgrade like so:
>
> mail-mta/postfix-2.3.6 [2.2.10]
>
> Has anyone else made this upgrade?  How did it go?  Anything to watch
> out for?
>
> - Grant

The upgrade here was OK. I didn't have to change anything - just emerged
and reloaded with "/etc/init.d/postfix restart". No problems, no
complains...just perfect ;-)

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[gentoo-user] Any luck with the postfix upgrade?

[Grant]

Hello, apparently it's time for me to upgrade like so:

mail-mta/postfix-2.3.6 [2.2.10]

Has anyone else made this upgrade?  How did it go?  Anything to watch out for?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources

[Grant]

> > > It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages?
> >
> > Just how would portage know that an old slot is no longer needed? Just
> > because a newer version is installed doesn't mean it's been compiled or
> > that the old is no longer needed (you might need to compile some package
> > against the old that fails to compile against the new)...
> >
> > For the more general case slot deps aren't allowed in the tree yet so
> > it's not all that easy to figure out which slots are in use. You do risk
> > breaking your system by pruning the wrong package..
>
> Ok, yes, slot deps sounds like what I'm after here.  Is there a
> portage command I can run to see which packages are installed in more
> than one slot?  I'm having disk space problems on my laptop.

emerge -Pp

Though you should never run that without --pretend cause that will destroy
your system.


Ok, I guess this is where I either stop or find out if udept works.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Grant]

>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>>
>
> Some licensing BS or other.
>
>
>> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
>>
>
> If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
> USE flags.
>
>
Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some branding
issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use Debian's
Iceweasel name.


I agree.  It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
development name.

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[gentoo-user] how does one temporarily disable a firefox plugin

[Allan Gottlieb]

I have a stable x86 gentoo system with firefox (bon echo) 2.0.0.1) and
totem 2.16.4.  According to about:plugins totem is to handle mp3 files

I am trying to download an MP3 from "The teaching company" (they have
lectures on various subjects).  The actual button pressed invokes some
javascript.

The result is that totem generates an error msg namely
  Totem could not play 'fd://0'.

I would like to temporarily not have totem handle the mp3s, but I was
unable to see how to do it.

I strongly suspect that unmerging totem (and remerging when done)
would work but was looking for a less drastic method.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless PCI Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11 - Driver Problem

[Richard Watson]

Yes it's pointing to the correct kernel source - Thanks


I recompiled my kernel and modprobe rt61 worked. I now have an interface 
that come up called ra0.


The following worked for me:

Added rt61 to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

# ln -s net.lo net.ra0

I edited /etc/conf.d/net
modules= ( "iwconfig" )
config_rao=( "null" )

# rc-update add net.ra0 default

Set ra0 to "null" because ra0 won't come up as dhcpc until configured.

# /etc/init.d/net.rao start
# iwlist ra0 scanning
gave me channel and essid to use

I created a script /root/scripts/d_link_rt61_up.sh
iwlist ra0 scanning
iwconfig ra0 essid [essid]
iwconfig ra0 channel 11
dhcpcd ra0

Added /root/scripts/d_link_rt61_up.sh to /etc/conf.d/local.start

Everything comes up no on boot.

Thank you everybody 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Gyuszk]

Grant Edwards írta:
> On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Dear gentoo users,
>>
>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>> 
>
> Some licensing BS or other.
>
>   
>> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?
>> 
>
> If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
> USE flags.
>
>   
Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some branding
issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use Debian's
Iceweasel name.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Gyuszk]

Thomas Rösner írta:
> Grant Edwards schrieb:
>> On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>> Dear gentoo users,
>>>
>>> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
>>> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
>>> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
>>> 
>>
>> Some licensing BS or other.
>>   
>
> Trademark Law, to be exact, and Mozilla.com's policy of not allowing
> patched Firefoxes to wear their brand badge. Debian calls it
> Iceweasel. (Ubuntu too?).
>
> Regards,
>T.
>
>
No, Ubuntu has made deal with Mozilla. They can use Firefox and
Thunderbird brands.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Saturday 24 February 2007 20:50:37 Gyuszk wrote:
> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?

http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/faq.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)

[Jakob Buchgraber]

Gyuszk wrote:

Dear gentoo users,

As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?

Thanks a lot
  
Check out the article about Bon Echo on Wikipedia: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox#Trademark_and_logo_issues


Cheers,
Jay

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Thomas Rösner]

Grant Edwards schrieb:

On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Dear gentoo users,

As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?



Some licensing BS or other.
  


Trademark Law, to be exact, and Mozilla.com's policy of not allowing 
patched Firefoxes to wear their brand badge. Debian calls it Iceweasel. 
(Ubuntu too?).


Regards,
   T.


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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Samuel Baldwin]

Maybe, just maybe, if we all stoped posting (mailing) to this thread,
it would go away, and we wouldn't have this problem.

Something to chew on..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Dale]

Willie Wong wrote:
>
> use sed, the syntax is practically the same. 
>
> sed -e "s/\*\*\*//" /var/log/emerge.log > /tmp/sedemerge.log
>
> and then open /tmp/sedemerge.log using Kwrite. 
>
> Best, 
>
> W
>   

Thanks Willie.  That worked great.  I wonder if someone needs to tell
the programmer for portage that kwrite doesn't like those *** in there
at all?  Should I file it as a bug?  I mean, kwrite is all I use unless
the GUI is borked and I have to use CL.  Then I use nano.  Sorry.  :-(

Thanks again.

Dale 

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Dale]

Mantas Povilaitis wrote:
> It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
> about "spam" (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
> OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
> wrote something meaningful while all other of you "Responsible mailing
> list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
> list" just continue writing total nonsenses.

You do know that some people have to pay for how much data they use
right?  They may not in the US or in some countries but I know there
used to be a guy on here that had to pay a monthly fee plus so much
depending on how much data he got.  So if he is still here, he is paying
for spam, including this message I'm sorry to say.

Me, I try not to go to a Windoze list and spam them with Linux
questions.  I don't do that out of respect for the other people on the
list.  They may not want to here about Linux anyway.  Maybe what we need
here is a moderator and a ban list.  Spam the list, get banned.  Do it
enough, you get banned for good.  That may solve the problem.

It would just seem to me that it is easier for us to not let people spam
the list than to have the above happen.  I have once or twice asked a
windoze question on here but I kept it as brief as I could.  I was
trying to get Samba to share with my soon to be ex's laptop.  Some
people unlike me use windoze too.  Some here may even be really good at it.

It's the same with top posting or using HTML.  You may do it, but you
may not get the replies you need either.  I'm not going to mention where
the OP next emails are going to go.  I won't be seeing them though.

My $0.02 worth.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation annoyances

[Walter Dnes]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:06:20PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote

> Walter Dnes wrote:
> >   Guess what happens to the bookmarks next time there's a minor version
> > bump to any of those programs (e.g. when I update world)?  I suppose I
> > should try to slap together a script that's run after emerge.  It would
> > run the "find" command above, process the output, and create a file
> > ~/.docs.html with an unnumbered list of links to the actual
> > documentation.  Sounds like a plan.
> 
> That's the intended purpose of DOC_SYMLINKS_DIR which is documented
> in `man make.conf`  (new in portage-2.1.2).

  Now they tell me... after I went and put together a script to provide
pointers to html documentation.  I intend to get my script doing
multi-column display, so I'm not giving up on it.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-02-24, Gyuszk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear gentoo users,
>
> As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
> emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
> box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?

Some licensing BS or other.

> Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?

If you want it to call itself "Firefox" add mozbranding to your
USE flags.

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[gentoo-user] Bon Echo (why?)

[Gyuszk]

Dear gentoo users,

As you all know, Firefox 2.0.0.2 is stable on x86 in Portage. When one
emerges it, Gnome menu call, and the software calls itself (in about
box) Bon Echo (the codename of Firefox 2 development tree). Why?
Is really development version of Firefox in Portage, or what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] aiglx/beryl: xfce, firefox issues

[b.n.]

b.n. ha scritto:

>> 2)The xfce standard pager doesn't show windows in other beryl desktops,
>> only in the current active desktop.
> 
> This is unsolved instead.
> 
>> Where can I look for hints on what's wrong and how to solve it?
> 

Moreover, it seems that the svn does a complete mess when switching
desktops.

I guess beryl is not stable enough for me. :/

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Neil Walker]

b.n. wrote:

Yes, but we love it. I would continue, but I'm going to the cheese shop
in front of the Ministry of Silly Walks.
  


No, no, no. Go to the pet shop and buy a parrot! ;)


Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] aiglx/beryl: xfce, firefox issues

[b.n.]

> 1)I have a Firefox instance on desktop A. I do switch (by clicking on
> pager, no cube etc.- cube is not working btw) to desktop B, then again
> to desktop A. The firefox window often is no more visible on desktop A,
> nor it appears in the Expose plugin. I can see it on the task bar and
> click it, but it doesn't apper. I do have to close it and restart it. It
> seems other apps do not suffer this problem.

Ok, I mostly solved this (it seems) by using svn beryl in the xeffects
overlay.

> 2)The xfce standard pager doesn't show windows in other beryl desktops,
> only in the current active desktop.

This is unsolved instead.

> Where can I look for hints on what's wrong and how to solve it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Albert Hopkins]

On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 19:51 +0200, Mantas Povilaitis wrote:
> It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
[...precedes to flame and whine]

I just want to say that I agree with you 100%.



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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[b.n.]

Mantas Povilaitis ha scritto:
> It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
> about "spam" (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
> OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
> wrote something meaningful while all other of you "Responsible mailing
> list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
> list" just continue writing total nonsenses.

Yes, but we love it. I would continue, but I'm going to the cheese shop
in front of the Ministry of Silly Walks.

Kidding apart... The aim of it all is that the massive response to the
attempted spamming should in principle avoid recidive behaviour. It's
all about estirpating the bad plants before they invade the field.
Aggelos seems to have left the ml, so it's a good result on our side.

The problem is that if you leave people like Aggelos undisturbed, the ML
will become 90% off topic and 10% on topic posts in less than a month.
This kind of apparently senseless effort actually makes sense, trust me.

And it's fun too. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Mantas Povilaitis]

It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
about "spam" (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
wrote something meaningful while all other of you "Responsible mailing
list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Off Topic] screen configuration...

[Roger Mason]

"Steve [Gentoo]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want to use screen, but my emacs-afflicted fingers automatically type
> "control-a" to go to the beginning of the line in my shell - which is
> somewhat unfortunate for screen.
>

I too am an emacs user.  I have 

escape \

as the first line of my .screenrc.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] VNC problems

[Gyuszk]

Etaoin Shrdlu írta:
> On Saturday 24 February 2007 13:38, Gyuszk wrote:
>
>   
>> All in all: I want to connect (using TightVNC Win32) to the existing
>> DISPLAY:0 (gnome) session. Is it possible?
>> 
>
> I think you need a VNC server that allows connections to display :0 (eg, 
> the "real" display).
> Portage offers x11vnc and xf4vnc to do that. Also, back in the XFree86 
> days, the standard realvnc server used to provide a x0vncserver or a X 
> module to enable viewing the real X display. I never used it and don't 
> know whether it still works that way with xorg. More info here:
>
> http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html
>
> hth
>   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 07:11:46AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
> Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Open a copy of your emerge.log in vim and do:
> >
> >   :%s/\*\*\*// 
> >
> H, I don't have vim installed. 

use sed, the syntax is practically the same. 

sed -e "s/\*\*\*//" /var/log/emerge.log > /tmp/sedemerge.log

and then open /tmp/sedemerge.log using Kwrite. 

Best, 

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[gentoo-user] aiglx/beryl: xfce, firefox issues

[b.n.]

Hi,
I successfully managed to run AIGLX+Beryl with the following system:

videocard: ati radeon 9200se
xorg: 7.1 (stable, from Portage)
beryl: 0.1.4 (~x86, from Portage)
window decorator: emerald 0.1.4 (~x86, from portage).
xfce: 4.2 (stable, from Portage)

It works mostly OK, but I have two serious issues:

1)I have a Firefox instance on desktop A. I do switch (by clicking on
pager, no cube etc.- cube is not working btw) to desktop B, then again
to desktop A. The firefox window often is no more visible on desktop A,
nor it appears in the Expose plugin. I can see it on the task bar and
click it, but it doesn't apper. I do have to close it and restart it. It
seems other apps do not suffer this problem.

2)The xfce standard pager doesn't show windows in other beryl desktops,
only in the current active desktop.

Where can I look for hints on what's wrong and how to solve it?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] VNC problems

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Saturday 24 February 2007 13:38, Gyuszk wrote:

> All in all: I want to connect (using TightVNC Win32) to the existing
> DISPLAY:0 (gnome) session. Is it possible?

I think you need a VNC server that allows connections to display :0 (eg, 
the "real" display).
Portage offers x11vnc and xf4vnc to do that. Also, back in the XFree86 
days, the standard realvnc server used to provide a x0vncserver or a X 
module to enable viewing the real X display. I never used it and don't 
know whether it still works that way with xorg. More info here:

http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Dale]

Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>   
>> Here is the thing that is so odd, it will open any other
>> large file and work fine but it will mess up on emerge.log.
>> 
>
> Open a copy of your emerge.log in vim and do:
>
>   :%s/\*\*\*// 
>
> After that KWrite will handle the file without a problem.  As to 
> why, I can only guess: when the stars are still there, KWrite shows 
> folding markers, so it sees the file as some kind of code and tries 
> to "format" it, arrange it in paragraphs, and sometime searches the 
> entire file in vain for some matching paragraph-closing element.  
> When the stars are gone, it sees the file as plain text and doesn't 
> do any searching.
>
> Benno
>   

H, I don't have vim installed.  It appears that it will pull in a
good bit of dependancies too.  Is there another way to do this?  I'm on
dial-up and it will take a good while just to download all it needs to
install.

What you are saying makes sense though.  As soon as I try to scroll
down, it locks right up.

Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] VNC problems

[Raymond Lewis Rebbeck]

On Saturday, 24 February 2007 23:08, Gyuszk wrote:
> Dear Gentoo users,
>
> I'm having VNC-related problems.
> I want to make VNC'ing work the following:
>
> I have a Gentoo desktop box with gdm+gnome, only one user. I'm using X
> on DISPLAY:0 0-24/7 all the time. If I'm not sitting in front of the
> box, I lock the session with the corresponding Gnome menu. So, X
> DISPLAY:0 is always active with my Gnome desktop (sometimes locked,
> thats all).
>
> I have another machine with Windows XP. (Just on a little partition, I
> want to install Linux on the remaining 70GB.)
>
> >From this machine I want to connect using VNC to the gentoo desktop.
>
> I've read the corresponding howtos on gentoo-wiki.org, with no success.
> What works: I can connect to the Gentoo box using VNC, but it opens
> DISPLAY:1 and starts an X session with TWM, instead of opening my
> existing X session on DISPLAY:0
>
> All in all: I want to connect (using TightVNC Win32) to the existing
> DISPLAY:0 (gnome) session. Is it possible?
> If isn't, the following will do:
>
> a GDM session opens in my VNC window, and I can login to my account into
> gnome. With existing user, with existing home folder.
>
> I hope I was clear. Sorry for my English, I'm from Hungary.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Gyuszk

You can use x11-misc/x11vnc to view an existing X session over vnc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] VNC problems

[Albert Hopkins]

On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 13:38 +0100, Gyuszk wrote:
> All in all: I want to connect (using TightVNC Win32) to the existing
> DISPLAY:0 (gnome) session. Is it possible?
> If isn't, the following will do: 

VNC server *always*[1] creates a new X server to export.  It doesn't
export the (X) console.

If you're using GNOME, why not use GNOME's solution:
System/Preferences/Remote Desktop?

1. Well not always, but that's the default.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to disable an automatic feature in vim? - SOLVED

[John Blinka]

Philip Webb wrote:


Google 'vim automatic comment' finds sect 30.6 of the Vim User Manual,
which covers something similar; also

  http://ianua.initd.org/vimit/vim63/html/change.html#fo-table

which seems to cover what you describe under options 'r' & 'o'.

Perhaps this will get you started, if no-one else has more precise info.
  

Thanks - sometimes the right Google phrase is all it takes.  From your
hint I found http://www.bioinspired.com/users/ajg112/computing/vim.shtml
which explains exactly how to do what I want.

John Blinka

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[gentoo-user] VNC problems

[Gyuszk]

Dear Gentoo users,

I'm having VNC-related problems.
I want to make VNC'ing work the following:

I have a Gentoo desktop box with gdm+gnome, only one user. I'm using X
on DISPLAY:0 0-24/7 all the time. If I'm not sitting in front of the
box, I lock the session with the corresponding Gnome menu. So, X
DISPLAY:0 is always active with my Gnome desktop (sometimes locked,
thats all).

I have another machine with Windows XP. (Just on a little partition, I
want to install Linux on the remaining 70GB.)
>From this machine I want to connect using VNC to the gentoo desktop.
I've read the corresponding howtos on gentoo-wiki.org, with no success.
What works: I can connect to the Gentoo box using VNC, but it opens
DISPLAY:1 and starts an X session with TWM, instead of opening my
existing X session on DISPLAY:0

All in all: I want to connect (using TightVNC Win32) to the existing
DISPLAY:0 (gnome) session. Is it possible?
If isn't, the following will do:

a GDM session opens in my VNC window, and I can login to my account into
gnome. With existing user, with existing home folder.

I hope I was clear. Sorry for my English, I'm from Hungary.

Thanks in advance!

Gyuszk

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Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp error when using elog

[Albert Hopkins]

On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 12:15 +, Paul Stear wrote:
> Sorry for posting this again but can anybody help?
> How do I find out what 451 Temporary Local Problem is?
> Paul
> 
> Hello all,
> Sometime ago I stopped receiving elog mail messages.
> The error in the log is:-
> 
> sendmail: RCPT TO: (451 Temporary local problem - please
>  try later)
> !!! PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND failed with exitcode 1
> 
> This is the make.conf entries
> 
> PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log"
> PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save custom syslog"
> PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND="/usr/local/bin/portage-elog-command.sh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] '\${PACKAGE}' '\${LOGFILE}'"
> 

Paul,

  * We don't know what /usr/local/bin/portage-elog-command.sh does.
  * What is your ssmtp.conf?  Does it work w/o elog?
  * Have you checked your syslog?  ssmtp usually logs to syslog.

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[gentoo-user] ssmtp error when using elog

[Paul Stear]

Sorry for posting this again but can anybody help?
How do I find out what 451 Temporary Local Problem is?
Paul

Hello all,
Sometime ago I stopped receiving elog mail messages.
The error in the log is:-

sendmail: RCPT TO: (451 Temporary local problem - please
 try later)
!!! PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND failed with exitcode 1

This is the make.conf entries

PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log"
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save custom syslog"
PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND="/usr/local/bin/portage-elog-command.sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] '\${PACKAGE}' '\${LOGFILE}'"

Any ideas?

Thanks in anticipation
Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Benno Schulenberg]

Dale wrote:
> Here is the thing that is so odd, it will open any other
> large file and work fine but it will mess up on emerge.log.

Open a copy of your emerge.log in vim and do:

  :%s/\*\*\*// 

After that KWrite will handle the file without a problem.  As to 
why, I can only guess: when the stars are still there, KWrite shows 
folding markers, so it sees the file as some kind of code and tries 
to "format" it, arrange it in paragraphs, and sometime searches the 
entire file in vain for some matching paragraph-closing element.  
When the stars are gone, it sees the file as plain text and doesn't 
do any searching.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ot - video encoding

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Saturday 24 February 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] ot - video encoding':
> Hi List im looking for a program to encode from avi to divx does anyone
> know of a program to do this?

Short answer: mencoder

Longer answer:
(1) Avi is not a format -- or at least it's not a video format.  It's 
a "wrapper" format that can hold various video formats with various audio 
formats interleaved.  AVI = Audio/Video Interleave

(2) Mplayer and Xine are the big a/v decoders, with ffmpeg being used by 
both projects (IIRC); vlc is a very useful third place, and gstreamer does 
have some "native" codecs although it can (and IIRC, still generally does) 
call out to the xine, mplayer, or ffmpeg libraries for some formats.

(3) Encoders are much more fragmented, although ffmpeg provides many 
encoders, and mplayer can use the ffmpeg encoders as well as any native 
ones it might have, plus it understands the libraries (or interfaces via 
system() calls) with some others.  Xine, vlc, and gstreamer are, AFAIK not 
oriented towards encoding.

(4) Divx is just an video format and if you intend to combine it with 
audio, you'll have to choose a format for that.  I prefer vorbis; with 
speex for those cases where is audio is literally just a voice-over.  
However, vorbis and speex decoders generally aren't shipped with 
proprietary OSes such as OS X or Windows and are playable on relatively 
few portable devices.  MP3 is fine for mono or stereo audio, but AFAIK it 
doesn't support more channels.  AC3 is IME larger for the same quality, 
but does support 5.1 and other formats with more channels.

(5) Again, divx is just a video format, so you'll need a container format 
if you want to combine it with other media, like subtitles or audio.  I 
prefer Matroska or ogg.  Neither is shipped with proprietary OSes and both 
have poor support on portables, although ogg has marginally better support 
than Matroska.  I don't believe divx is can be shipped in the standard mp4 
container, but I could be wrong.  It's normally shipped in, oddly enough 
in your case, AVI format.

So, you have a couple more high-level decisions to make before you 
transcode.  Once you decide on them, you'll still need to determine 
encoder-specific parameters, bitrates, and whotnot, although sane defaults 
are generally provided by most tools when possible.  However, the shear 
number of options may be a little bit overwhelming.  Tip: doesn't change 
any settings you don't have to the first time, you can play with all 
the "knobs" once you get base functionality.

Mencoder is probably is most featureful transcoding tool, but you may be 
able to find a GUI that the features you need and is user-friendly.  I 
don't do enough transcoding to have any recommendations other than 
mencoder, because I got familiar enough with it to do what I needed and 
stopped looking for anything else.

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Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 23 February 2007 22:18, Jürgen Geuter wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 02:39 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > If you need to execute something put it to
> > > /etc/conf.d/local.start or
> > > /etc/conf.d/local.stop
> >
> > Does not fully work, since some services require the coda
> > volumes mounted. So my only idea was to change /etc/init.d/venus

Modify those init scripts, adding or changing a 'depends' line.  By default 
init scripts are config protected so your changes will not be overwritten 
willy-nilly.

> > But: there's another problem. Every user has to log into coda
> > by its own. This is bad if all user's homedirs should sit on coda.
>
> Put the login thingy as first line in a .-File that is executed upon
> login for every user. .bashrc or something.

If it is really something every local user needs to do, throw it 
in /etc/profile.d -- those files are sourced by /etc/profile, which is read 
by sh, bash, and zsh (at least), for all (?) shells.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
>
> Well, I like nano better but not if I can use something GUI.  ;-) 
> That option is not exactly what I am hoping to use. 
>
> I don't understand portage and ebuilds well enough to do that.  How
> about this.  Is there a way to just tell emerge to emerge each
> separate package and get rid of kde-meta?  I don't know, equery list
> kde then poke them in one by one.  Would that let it leave kate and
> kdelibs where it is without masking all of kde?
>
> Thanks for the reply though.  At least I can open the file and read it
> and it is not just me having this problem.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
> -- 
> www.myspace.com/dalek1967
>   

OK.  I upgraded again and this time I was trying a few other files. 
Here is the thing that is so odd, it will open any other large file and
work fine but it will mess up on emerge.log.  My messages file is larger
than my emerge.log file but it even opens fine.  I would assume it is
not the size of the file that is causing the problem.

Why is it that it will work on everything else I have tried but not my
emerge.log file??

Just curious. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Off Topic] screen configuration...

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 23 February 2007 17:40, Steve [Gentoo] wrote:
> I want to use screen, but my emacs-afflicted fingers automatically type
> "control-a" to go to the beginning of the line in my shell - which is
> somewhat unfortunate for screen.

Amen.  Luckily I'm not an emacs user, so I quickly broke myself of that 
bash 
habit.  (I happily hit home or esc,^ now.)

> I assume from the manual that I can re-bind keys to avoid this
> problem... my first guess was to bung "bind '^a'" into my .screenrc -
> but that doesn't do the trick.  Does anyone here have the correct
> incantation?

Pull up the screen.info file, and goto the 'Command Character' node.

I'm thinking you probably want to mess with the escape or defescape 
commands, 
probably throwing them into your screenrc or somesuch.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Off Topic] screen configuration...

[Frank Gruellich]

* Steve [Gentoo] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23. Feb 07:
> I want to use screen, but my emacs-afflicted fingers automatically type
> "control-a" to go to the beginning of the line in my shell - which is
> somewhat unfortunate for screen.

With default settings you can send the escape key to an application
(like a shell) by pressing "C-a a".

> I assume from the manual that I can re-bind keys to avoid this
> problem... my first guess was to bung "bind '^a'" into my .screenrc -
> but that doesn't do the trick.  Does anyone here have the correct
> incantation?

escape ^Uu

in your .screenrc should bind "C-u" to as escape key and "C-u u" to send
escape key to shell (deleting line in this case).  You can change this
after startup by pressing "C-a :".  I documented my own .screenrc here:
http://www.der-frank.org/dotfiles/_screen/_screenrc
 
HTH,
 kind regards, Frank.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding

[paulie.x]

Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a):

Hi,

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
unicode-aware terminal program.

It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal.
Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local
man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can
see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences).


Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with
double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use "nroff -mandoc"
without -T option for utf-8 output.

Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left...

-hwh


OK. This is in /etc/man.conf:

--
...

# Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when
# NROFF is defined as "groff -Tascii" or "groff -Tlatin1";
# not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output.
# For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T option.
# (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.)
#
# If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output
# causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF.
#
TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
JNROFF  /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj
EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps
NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1
JNEQN   /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon
TBL /usr/bin/gtbl
# COL   /usr/bin/col
REFER   /usr/bin/refer
PIC /usr/bin/pic
VGRIND
GRAP
PAGER   /usr/bin/less -is
BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is
HTMLPAGER   /bin/cat
CAT /bin/cat

...
--

Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word "zformátuje":

with origianl settings: "zformAituje"

I tried this changes:

NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc

TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc

NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc

TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc

but all gives "zformátuje".

Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that
good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops
( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good
programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause).





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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding

[jcd]

Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a):

Hi,

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
unicode-aware terminal program.

It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal.
Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local
man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can
see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences).


Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with
double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use "nroff -mandoc"
without -T option for utf-8 output.

Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left...

-hwh


OK. This is in /etc/man.conf:

--
...

# Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when
# NROFF is defined as "groff -Tascii" or "groff -Tlatin1";
# not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output.
# For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T option.
# (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.)
#
# If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output
# causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF.
#
TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
JNROFF  /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj
EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps
NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1
JNEQN   /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon
TBL /usr/bin/gtbl
# COL   /usr/bin/col
REFER   /usr/bin/refer
PIC /usr/bin/pic
VGRIND
GRAP
PAGER   /usr/bin/less -is
BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is
HTMLPAGER   /bin/cat
CAT /bin/cat

...
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Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word "zformátuje":

with origianl settings: "zformAituje"

I tried this changes:

NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc

TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc

NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc

TROFF   /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc
NROFF   /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc

but all gives "zformátuje".

Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that
good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops
( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good
programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause).



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